Kingdoms - Norway (Britainia)

[IvarrWolfsong]

Has anyone had any luck with Norway? I have tried a few times and always end up with around -10k by turn 20. I am hemmoraging cash like a dot com ceo.

I have tried scuttling my navy, disbanding many of my useless units, turtling up, trying to blitz northern Scotland, converting castles to towns, etc... no luck. The Scots send stack after stack, I win HV after HV but I can't repair or retrain so I end up getting trounced :furious3:

I think I will give it another go and perhaps try relocating to ireland.

[joe4iz]

Go to Ireland Young Man. MOve the capitol to Castle Town. Convert a couple of the other castles to towns. That should help in the long run. Assume you will always be broke.

I hated playing as Norway just because you always ARE broke.

[Swifty]

talking about norway, my king haakon seem to only last few turns. right now im on turn 24 and on turn 23 he had a battle, but survived, BUT he died (so not in battle). is he suppose to die that fast?

[Xehh II]

Why is norway in the Britainia campaign?

[Per Ole]

Becouse in real life, at this time, Norway held alot of land. Much of this land was the isles around britannia (north of scotland, the isle of man and between) and Norway was very involved in the british isles.

I've had very much luck playing as the Norwegians (Norwegian myself ^^). I agree it's very hard with the little cash, but a tip is: When you start, you start with the kings son (Prince Magnus) in Castle town (your capital). Move him and ALL his troops to Glasgow, a scottish city east of castle town. Capture it and "loot" it. You get a decent amount of cash. '

A few turns in you get some reinforcements (not the king), Use them to defend your northernmost castle on the scottish mainland. Also, if you're able, take the scottish castle that is close.

Once king Haakonsen himself arrives, merge his fleets and send them straight for Perth (scottish capital). This city will give you over 16k florins as loot, and after that it's just a piece of cake to own scotland.

If you do all the above, and at the same time capture some small isles, build economical buildings and disband unnecesseary fleets and units you'll end up in a very favorable postition to take on England and the rest.

Kos deg, og lykke til! (Have fun, and good luck!)

[Heinrich VI]

norway was the first kingdoms campaign i have played. and after a few turns i faced the same problem. war with scotland, england and the irish and the king showing up helped not too much despite the increased kings purse.

what helped me was raiding english coastal cities for cash true viking style. ;)
the AI as always defends its coast poorly.

[IvarrWolfsong]

Thanks for all the advice :2thumbsup:

here is what I did...

I left 1 low quality unit in Wick and all the islands except the town north of Wick (and of course Castle Town).

I moved the viking raiders from the islands and the garrison of Wick to Ireland and captured a northern city (Dunpatrick or something like that). I moved the Castle Town garrison over to Dublin and sacked it. I now had 2 cities with good income and population.

Then King Hakon the Geriatric arrived with his stack of troops. I disbanded all the longboats and kept the dragonboats. And then I began what has become know throughout fiction Scotland as "The Rape of The East."

I basically sacked and destroyed every Scottish settlement on the east coast, sold off all its buildings, put the tax on VH, and then sailed to the next town and did it all over again:smash: .

After pillaging the east coast back to the bonze age, I started heading to Ireland by the northern route.

This not only filled my coffers but has made the game a lot more enjoyable for two reasons... I got to go a-viking :beam: and it crippled AI Scotland juggernaught, which for once, has allowed England to become the dominate power in Britain.

As I sailed to the Emerald Isle, I picked up all my merchants along the way. These were dropped off in N. Ireland and headed south to Munster's silver mines (+400 florins each:laugh4: )and some textiles in English held lands.

Speaking of Munster, the Old Wick Garrison was sent down there on boats to capture Cork. Those mines were rightfully mine anyway:smash: . The irish attempted to block me at the river ford after I landed, but being the medieval equivalent of marines paid off.. I walked to the coast, got on my ships, sailed to the other side of the river, disembarked and my spy popped the gates:laugh4: .

Right now my alliance with the Brits just collapsed so I think I may try to live up to my name "Ivar" and become the Viking king of Ireland.

So long story short, move to Ireland, raid the coasts of Scotland and keep those Huscarls in the field fighting.

[IvarrWolfsong]

Also, the spirit of freedom beats strong in the Scottish heart and soul of William Wallace!

Yet something stronger beats in his kilt... he just betrayed Scotland to marry my 5 heart princess :clown:

[Xehh II]

So norway really had land in britain during William Wallaces time?

[Per Ole]

yes we did. We even fought battles with scotland at the time. Look up Norwegian history at Wikipedia

[IvarrWolfsong]

William Wallace is now King William of Norway :laugh4:

Unfortunately, he has no skin so he looks like the liquid terminator :wall:

[antisocialmunky]

William Wallace is now King William of Norway :laugh4:

Unfortunately, he has no skin so he looks like the liquid terminator :wall:

Screens or it didn't happen!

[IvarrWolfsong]

I have a screenie but I can't remember any of the host sites I use, my user name, my password, etc =P

I will get it up after I redo all that mumbo jumbo.

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[Akbar]

I just started raiding scottish settlements, using the Faction Heir and his starting army from Castle Town to sack Glasgow. More or less simultaneously I took Inverness, and that kind of set me on my way. What helped a lot was the Capture Rebel settlement missions I kept getting, luckily the rewards for them was 2500 florins or so, instead of units. When King Haakon arrived, i used his army to sweep along the east coast. Although the useless old fool died about 3 turns after arriving, the troops that arrived with him are quite strong. So now, the scots are history, my allies the Welsh have formed a buffer between me and England, so I'm free to raid the Irish. Fun campaign.

Important thing to remember with Norway is that your basic troops outclass the Highlander and militia units the scots are likely to send against you earlier on. So even if you have no cash, your starting armies should get you far.

[IvarrWolfsong]

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[placebokid]

Nice :)
I had a lot of trouble with Norway to begin with, until I adopted an approach that got me as far out of Scotland as possible - basically, I held onto the islands (though it's went to great pains to kick me out of orkney, and will succeed next turn) but didn't spend any time reinforcing Wick, so I ended up losing that after a moderate resistance. Instead, I took my armies, including some largely militia constructs out of orkney, and raided the east coast of england, down to Norwich, which I actually settled in - the first free raiding armies went down to the east cost of Ireland, and sacked Downpatrick, as my heir in castle town relieved the rebels of Ireland - This is when the game hits its darkest point for me. As King Haaken arrives, I use him to take York, and enjoy, along with his increased kings purse, some financial success. Once it hits the low point though, I was just managing to raid myself out of minus several thousand profit a turn. Things took a turn for the positive once the barons rebellion occured, and it was easy to lift the majority of north england (everything in the north bar carlisle) from the English. The remnants of Haakens force sacked Edinburgh, and were pushed out by William Wallace. Despite the defeat though, the drop in upkeep for the stack pushed me into just enough profit to begin work on infrastructure as well as some forces, with which I pummelled the rest of ireland into submission. From there I'm making a nice 6-10k a turn, and look set, with the addition of the south of Scotland, to be able to make a nice over-run of the rest of the British isles. It's been a VERY enjoyable challenge, despite some frustrated woe. Even though I'm a native Scot, the Norwegians seemed by far the most interesting scenario. I'm glad it's turned out well. :)

[hoom]

I think I took the hard route, just went island taking, converted all but Castletown into towns & then have been slowly working south.

There's a fair bit of Merchant trade to be had.
Both King Haarkon & Barons Alliance seem to significantly improve the coffers, allowing you to run in what should be huge negatives but end up in the positives for a while.

When working my way south I was a bit wierded out by the Scottish obsession with the fort between Inverness & Inverlochly.
I'd take a town & fight off an assault on/have to recapture that fort, then take another town & have to fight off another assault on the same fort.

Happened right up to their last town, with armies from Edinburgh passing relatively lightly garrisoned Glasgow, Stirling, Perth & Inverlochly to try attacking that damned fort some more :juggle2:

After fighting off attack after attack on Islay by the Irish & with the English foe leaving me alone for the time being, I'm now in full invasion of Ireland with significant positive effect on my treasury.