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CaPeFeAr
08-25-2002, 00:02
Well... ive helped as many new players i could... broke up a few fights... smacked a few who wouldnt stop flaming... but im afraid they are still arriving in waves... currently there is one kid who is hosting a game called "playerx is gay" .... most of the time i can get these guys to act right but it seems im loosing ground.. i came in this afternoon to a nightmare.... ill kick you ass...#$@$ you ... your mother blah blah blah... point being....

We need a boot feature... or some other means of chatroom control... filters dont work they just make players be more creative. personly.. i would like a feature of booting a cd key for say 1 hour... if x amount or % of current players click a button to boot an indivdual player. but im sure there are other ways as well.

PLZ HELP!!

CaPeFeAr
08-25-2002, 00:31
UPDATE: THE IGNORE FEATURE DOES NOT WORK

this is crazy.... spammers and we cant even block them .. plz help..

08-25-2002, 01:06
Well, it's to be expected...20 people on MI and rude words / bad behaviour is there anyway. Imagine MTW, the great king of strategy games.

Gil has gone on holiday, but the ignore feature is of course a feature that must be included.

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MagyarKhans Cham
08-25-2002, 02:03
besides the ignore button, we could have a "old shog members private room" with a daily changing password. we invite new players in and leave the buggers out

Stuie
08-25-2002, 02:08
And people wonder why I don't play online. Crap like this really ruins the whole online community. Well, that and the fact that I suck playing against real people.... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif

RageMonsta
08-25-2002, 03:36
Seems Rages little 'sinners' forum will stay open for a while...seems even more reason to have another web page at the Rage Orders home warning those who wis to 'play' about those who are too stupid to.

Keep trying Cape...wont be long and we will come and give ya hand...

Message to Magyar...'come back horseman'..damn does he ever stay still...Magyar Khan....Monsta agrees....those worthy shall be able to enter the 'players lounge'...easy done..pass worded forum with a post about changing room pass...also easy to exclude anybody who falls from grace...ban them from the forum.

[This message has been edited by RageMonsta (edited 08-24-2002).]

MaJeStIcKoKeNo
08-25-2002, 04:44
I don't know about you guys, but I can't stand these know-it-all MTW newbs...I tried to make a simple point, that most people in shogun play 6-10k...but someone who does not even play shogun disagrees with me...wtf?

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NagaoKagetora
08-25-2002, 05:49
Well I guess we can rest safe in the knowledge that, they are in for a shock when the likes of Mag and Koc get on the scene and proceed to "Knock em about a little" http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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Kagetora
Kenchikuka + Kampfgruppe Wiking

NagatsukaShumi
08-25-2002, 07:31
lol I think they'll be even more scared when the ignore or boot featue is introduced http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

But I agree, the sight of Mag and Co is enough to scare anybody http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

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MagyarKhans Cham
08-25-2002, 07:44
it would suprise me that getting beaten will make them shut up.... better send them to the next meeting.

NagatsukaShumi
08-25-2002, 07:48
Maybe they should be forced to see Tera naked, that WILL shut them up.

LittleGrizzly
08-25-2002, 07:55
surely that is too inhumane even for those annoying basts!

NagatsukaShumi
08-25-2002, 08:01
Maybe your right, even they don't deserve to be subjected to the maggot sized creatures underneath the clothes of Tera.

barocca
08-25-2002, 09:31
(*sigh*)
CaPeFeAr, we know you are doing your level best, but without #ignore there is only so much that can be done...


and to all those who keep telling me to be patient and wait, cap in hand, while my copy of the game takes forever to get here

:-> SEE!!!
SEE!!!
we told you this would happen!!!
the uncouth and uncultured youth are getting OUT OF CONTROL!!!
again!!!

by the time europe and asia get to the foyer they'll be set in their ways,

AND untold thousand's of newbies will have been turned away by the vulgarity of it all -
never to set foot in the foyer again!

The Foyer needs a team of Mods with Kick/Ban powers,
secret agents who NEVER let on that they are mods, so you'll never know if the player you are about to insult is one, or not.
Maybe they'll think before they abuse, cause if you kick/ban a CD-Key...
http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by barocca (edited 08-25-2002).]

mizuYari
08-25-2002, 10:31
Sigh...

Chivalry...

MizuYari

Yager
08-25-2002, 11:38
Greeaat. So we are going to trade all the young whiny and uppity Americans for... what?

As soon is this game hits Australia and England the chat rooms are going to be invaded by cane swinging fogies who constantly complain that the youths are ruining everything. White haired and balding brits standing on a soap box and crying out for the Yankee barbarians to shut their mouths and start playing like adults.... Then of course we've got the caste who will just sit there in the chat room, smoking a pipe on the other side of the internet, and between puffs, typing in "Yeeepp... back in the ole' days we never had to deal with any of these rowdy individuals. Ahhh.. to be...."

I just always feel a bit put down when my generation and age group gets insulted. Yes, for the most part the group is immature... but that is the point of the age. Hopefully we'll get that precious ignore button soon. So I can join the mass body of American youths who are ignored by the old style army(.org) and who in turn ignore each other because we can hardly stand our mirror images.

Just jokin of course but I felt like shouting about something since I'm at a home with the net for a couple days.

barocca
08-25-2002, 13:03
I think the point is we need some form of control in the foyer(chatroom)

People with the authority to kick/ban,
NOT a permanent ban, for that we would need the developers or gamespy to step in,
just a temporary ban, say 1 hour.

Such people do not need to be identified, simply because no-one can guarantee when they can be online.
(otherwise some will maintain a list of the moderators, and when they realise none are around may go overboard)

If any of the 'moderators' were to announce themselves as such they should be stripped of status.

If you don't know who is a moderator and who is not you are less likely to tempt fate.

the Count of Flanders
08-25-2002, 14:42
I agree with Barocca and I think things will improve once the rest of the world gets their hands on it and the hype in America blows over.

LordTed
08-25-2002, 15:10
Quote Originally posted by MagyarKhans Cham:
besides the ignore button, we could have a "old shog members private room" with a daily changing password. we invite new players in and leave the buggers out[/QUOTE]

Agreed

youssof_Toda
08-25-2002, 15:19
Quote Originally posted by Yager:
Greeaat. So we are going to trade all the young whiny and uppity Americans for... what?

As soon is this game hits Australia and England the chat rooms are going to be invaded by cane swinging fogies who constantly complain that the youths are ruining everything. White haired and balding brits standing on a soap box and crying out for the Yankee barbarians to shut their mouths and start playing like adults.... Then of course we've got the caste who will just sit there in the chat room, smoking a pipe on the other side of the internet, and between puffs, typing in "Yeeepp... back in the ole' days we never had to deal with any of these rowdy individuals. Ahhh.. to be...."

I just always feel a bit put down when my generation and age group gets insulted. Yes, for the most part the group is immature... but that is the point of the age. Hopefully we'll get that precious ignore button soon. So I can join the mass body of American youths who are ignored by the old style army(.org) and who in turn ignore each other because we can hardly stand our mirror images.

Just jokin of course but I felt like shouting about something since I'm at a home with the net for a couple days.[/QUOTE]

So you think that gives them the right to annoy other ppl? I'm not one of the regular complainers here (I'm a bit rude myself) but if I don't want to hear that annoying moaning I should at least have the option to put the little twat on ignore. Basically they're jst little keyboard heroes but if they would put up that attitude in real life (if they ever get out of the door) they'll be sure to get their asses kicked literally.

UglyJun
08-25-2002, 15:22
i like maghy's idea we can just make our own chat room, i hate censorship of any form http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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DrNo
08-25-2002, 16:23
I'm all for having a private chat room if it helps you avoid the spammers but you have to mix with newbies for obvious reasons.
How will newbies get accepted and allowed into the circle of power?

Give it a couple of weeks and see if it dies down a bit, summer holidays are over soon!

Ignore button and temporary kicking for complete spammers should be available though.

BarryNoDachi
08-25-2002, 16:42
i think it will probably be hell for a couople a months but i think it'll settle down in time hopefully anyway http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
i think there should be a moderator of some sort im sure that there is some sort of control that CA can put in to improve things. can you?

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BomilkarDate
08-25-2002, 19:37
As soon as ELITE is back to its old power. We will crush these spammers. Always two or three at once. And we grant no mercy.

NagatsukaShumi
08-25-2002, 19:53
Hey, ym first official duty as Sultan of Clan Seljuk could be to kick about some of these people, excellent.

ElmarkOFear
08-25-2002, 20:56
I hate to tell you this guys, but the chatroom the way it currently stands does not allow other chatrooms like we could do in STW and MI. There is only one lobby and one lobby only. So currently the only way to deal with these few rowdies is by ignoring them. That worked in the past and will work once again, I just hope that we don't lose too many new people do to the nonsense of a few. For the most part though I have not seen many of these people yet like we did when MI first came out.

youssof_Toda
08-25-2002, 21:53
Quote Originally posted by DrNo:
I'm all for having a private chat room if it helps you avoid the spammers but you have to mix with newbies for obvious reasons.
How will newbies get accepted and allowed into the circle of power?

Give it a couple of weeks and see if it dies down a bit, summer holidays are over soon!

Ignore button and temporary kicking for complete spammers should be available though.[/QUOTE]

ssssssssssssssttttttt DO NOT speak about the circle, walls have ears in here...

1dread1lahll
08-25-2002, 22:05
Elmo is right... server room is bare bones...Cant ignore, cant boot out people,games in progress are shown (blocking view of games open) numbers of people in room not shown, no play search, no big honor name to impress yourself with..and its a bit buggy... people are there but you cant see them. and private chat a pain(must click the name each time u send a message, and sometimes you have to exit to be able to connect to a game..... On the bright side, in game.. you now see when someone escapes, or gets disconnected...

1dread1lahll
08-25-2002, 22:18
Oh yes forgot... tons of newbies that dont even know how to move! A pain if their your ally, but good for working out in game stuff, Last night I did a 2v2 with elmo Vs 2 newbies......they camped on a hill, and we lined up in a classic L shape and attacked.....you'de think Elmo with his nikes would have caught more of the enemy.....he got about 110 kills, i got only 38... (this was a win for us)(the newbies are now lined up with Elmos nike contract)
And could only scream WTF?? as their troops bolted in mass (the point of this is that now flanked armies now take a big morale hit) Plus ive seen loads of other changes....

mizuYari
08-25-2002, 23:38
I think this could be an improvement:
1. Allow creation of chat rooms (with password, of course);
2. Allow the ability to join multiple chat rooms;
3. Open games are not part of any chat room, all rooms are permitted to see open games;
4. Number of games in progress is displayed, but the name should be taken out of the game list (or move down the list so only open games are displayed on top);
5. In foyer, you are able to see who are logged in, so the foyer is used to scan for people you know.

The reason why in STW, people abandon the chatrooms in favor of the foyer is because only the foyer has games. Once you are in a chat room, you don't see games anymore.

MizuYari

ElmarkOFear
08-26-2002, 22:02
Yeah Lahll but they were a good 110 and 38 kills I must say!! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif hehe Someone needs to start a newbie info forum to explain the game and how flanking works and in most cases WHAT a flank is! HEHE

DragonCat
08-27-2002, 00:42
We also need to teach them that strategy does NOT consist of using enough florins so that all 16 of their troops are the most expensive and topped out with valor, weapons and armor.



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Vanya
08-27-2002, 01:50
GAH!

This whole thread brings back a sense of nostalgia... Or is it deja vu?

GAH!

Major Robert Dump
08-27-2002, 05:34
Well, for what its worth I have a younger friend from my hometown who bought the game and the first time he spewed vulgarity I set him in line. Hopefully, he doesnt act up anymore. The funny part is, he meant to priv message me but that since that feature is half-fried it went out to the general public. The comment would have been fine had I been the only on to hear it http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Dionysus9
08-27-2002, 06:14
Isn't a flank that tough part of horse-meat above the leg?

Flanking someone means killing their cav, right?

Doh!

Anyway, yes, its started. I've found that addressing them as children works well. Say,

"Now, now, children..."

a few times and they (sometimes) back off w/ the vulgarity.

"Settle down, now, kids, its just a game" doesnt seem to work as well...

TenkiSoratoti
08-27-2002, 06:46
just a game this a logic builders game

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macajor
08-27-2002, 19:45
a friendly word to the arrogant vulgar newbies that rule mtw at the moment, set ur watches. 3 days until the the 'master of arrogant people' arrives and members of his clan

the pack is assembling, some have not been fed in 2 weeks, expect a few hoooooowwwwwwwwlllllllsssss here and there:P

MagyarKhans Cham
08-27-2002, 19:57
there is a thin line between arrogant and being rude....

Vanya
08-27-2002, 20:00
Who let the dogs out?

Azmogeddon
08-27-2002, 20:40
Woof... woof.


Erm, ahem. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/confused.gif

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Erado San
08-27-2002, 21:24
I have no idea whether they will allow for foyer moderators, and I don't know what the options are for the online foyer, but what if it would be possible to have a Community chat room for ourselves, passworded or not, moderated and with a boot feature that can be given to a number of trusted members of our community?

I'll mail straight away to ask if this could be an option.

MagyarKhans Cham
08-27-2002, 21:34
yeah like in msn chat or whatever, he who creates the room gets the hammer to kick others if needed.

macajor
08-27-2002, 22:42
wolves not rude, only when needed http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

do i ever swear??????(on sundays)


hhhoooooowwwllllllllllllllllllll

Toda Nebuchadnezzar
08-27-2002, 23:15
Toda feels that Ed is right. The option of a private chat room for perhaps vets who "know" how the community works can play in. Although I always do like to kick some newbie ass, I prefer to play against those who I know and like.

Even just an ORG private room.

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Jaguara-Spoken like a TRUE SPAMMER Toda!

No Fear Legend.

NinjaKilla
08-28-2002, 04:02
Well for what its worth, I couldnt give a damn what people say in the foyer (yes even mum runs http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif). Come on now we should be old enough and thick skinned enough to be able to ignore the garbage.

What I dont like is scrolling/ spamming - this can't be ignored and does impact on my playing time. Is it possible for their to be some kind of restriction on this and the frequency that messages are sent .

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UglyJun
08-28-2002, 13:39
hehehe MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
watch out for flying Cows Too http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gifthe wolfs might nip u in the butt but when a flying cow lands on you there is nothing left http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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