Nobody Asked Me But...

[dancho]

I want to mention a few things that could be improved in the second edition.

Now-- don't freak out! I'm not complaining! This is not a list of complaints! Do not flame! I am not a heretic! (Famous Last Words).

1. They don't drink alcohol in Moslem countries (supposedly). So the tavern should be a coffee house.

2. The Arab generals were notoriously disloyal and contantly plotting revolt and rebellion. The ones in the game are too loyal.

3. Tournaments. Jousts. They should be in the game (for Christian Knights anyway). A high ranking general would participate in a tournament now and then and get hurt or killed (or suffer the consequences of looking like a coward). Duels were not unheard of... One side could challenge the other to personal combat.

4. Hashishim (or however it's spelled) are like those damned battlefield ninja. Ish. They should be super assassins-- not troops in battle.

5. I'm not sure why making a general Chief Eunuch (as the Turks) increases his loyalty. I would think that *threatening* to make him Chief Eunuch would do the trick.

6. While I'm on the topic-- why are the Turks called "the Turkish?" Wassup with that?

7. Joan of Arc should be a higher ranking general. An eleven.

8. Being excommunicated should be a bigger deal. Henry the Eighth was excommunicated and things went all strange after that. It shouldn't be something that is shrugged off.

9. Remove the Sicilians and Italians and Holy Roman Empire as playable factions. Instead have Mongols, Hungarians and Arabs (a forth Moslem faction).

That's all!

[Kalt]

Quote Originally posted by dancho:

1. They don't drink alcohol in Moslem countries (supposedly). So the tavern should be a coffee house.
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Jalalabucks http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

[shingen]

they don't drink, do you?


before this kind of changes (that are contestable and, also if they would want to do that, thingh that i doubt, should be discussed) maybe would be better they fix bugs, graphics problems, balance problems etc. maybe?

shingen

[ThorfinnSkullsplitter]

9. "Remove the Sicilians and Italians and Holy Roman Empire as playable factions. Instead have Mongols, Hungarians and Arabs (a forth Moslem faction)".

You can play as Hungarians in all eras and the Mongols in the High era.Just go into file campmap; then startpos;then Early; then about halfway down page "active faction" set Hungary as FT_MAJOR.You can do this with any of the FT_MINOR if they are colored in on the start campaign map in late & high eras you have to switch a FT_MAJOR out.

[This message has been edited by ThorfinnSkullsplitter (edited 08-29-2002).]

[mizuYari]

Turks are not calling themselves Turks at that time, I believe.

MizuYari

[Prodigy]

And name "Russians" didnt exist at that time either.

Personally, I think CA wil not make listed changes when gameplay is at stake.

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Originally posted by dancho:

9. Remove the Sicilians and Italians and Holy Roman Empire as playable factions. Instead have Mongols, Hungarians and Arabs (a forth Moslem faction).


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No way, HRE stays.

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I am the law and you can't beat the law.

[This message has been edited by Prodigy (edited 08-29-2002).]

[Grifman]

Remove the Holy Roman Empire - that's plain silly. They were far more important to European history than Hungary. And, FYI, the two non-Turkish Muslim factions in Egypt and Spain ARE Arabs for crying out loud. So you don't need an Arab faction.

Grifman

[Major Robert Dump]

They didnt drink? Ha!

No, see, the general populace didnt drink. The people in charge could do anything they wanted as long as the general populace and certain unaprroving peers never found out.

Of Course, I have no concrete evidence of this...but to say the muslim generals and royalty were always sober is like saying presidents dont cheat on their wives even though they make appearances at church with bible in hand http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

[Purple Fencer]

I'll think you'll find that a lot of muslims drank a great deal at this time (whether they were supposed to or not). The leader of the first muslim counter to the Crusades, Imad ed-Din Zengi, was renowned for his heavy drinking. In fact he was stabbed to death by a traitorous eunuch whilst passed out on booze.

[Ckrisz]

The Arab generals were no more or less loyal than, say, the Brits, the French, or especially the Holy Roman Empire. The HRE in real life was hardly a "faction" after the 13th century at all, but rather a collection of princes more interested in aggrandizing their own holdings rather than uniting to dominate Europe.

Not sure why the Sicilians are there rather than the Mongols, though. Batu Khan and the Golden Horde should definitely be a major faction WITHOUT modifications being necessary.

[Vanya]

ROFLMAO

GAH!

A secret drunk vice. I bet there are plenty of 'pious' arab leaders NOW that share that vice... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/eek.gif !

GAH!

[Ii Naomasa]

One thing I'd like to see in an add-on/future expansion is a family tree for your royal line....even if it's just shown at the end of a game.

I don't know why I want this...I just thought it would be cool to see the lineage; where the branches die, who was your longest lived monarch and who died in two years, etc. It's the amateur historian in me that's just intrigued with your mythical genealogy. It would also be funny to see what vices and virtues they had.