Log in

View Full Version : Zain's Custom Avatar Poll



Zain
09-30-2007, 01:54
I was told to make a Poll to see if you guys would allow me to use the picture below as a custom avatar. Right now mine is the Barbarian General... number 33 or something. But, the picture below is Zain as I have always imagined him (He's a character, my name isn't Zain) So, will you allow me to make a custom avatar out of this picture?

I'll use a previous avatar to add in the border and everything. Only difference will be the picture (probably half of the face)

https://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/ZainDustin/Squall8.jpg


Thanks for the input!

CountArach
09-30-2007, 02:46
I would hate to say no, but I will on the grounds that no one else has custom avatars except for Mods and Admins.

Zain
09-30-2007, 03:27
I'm thinking that's because they don't know how to make them.

Come on guys, it shows some unique qualities the Org needs. At least, in my opinion it needs.

Uesugi Kenshin
09-30-2007, 03:51
I would hate to say no, but I will on the grounds that no one else has custom avatars except for Mods and Admins.

I have a custom avatar...

I'd love to say no based on the fact that my brother was obsessed with that game, and idolized that character for ages, but instead I'll abstain until I've put a little bit more thought into it.

Zain
09-30-2007, 03:58
I have a custom avatar...

I'd love to say no based on the fact that my brother was obsessed with that game, and idolized that character for ages, but instead I'll abstain until I've put a little bit more thought into it.

Yes, his name is Squall Leonhart from Final Fantasy VIII.

But I played the game once, it was a good game, but nothing to obsess about.

But, when I imagine Zain, I imagine him. If this could be my avatar that would be perfect. Apotheosis.

pevergreen
09-30-2007, 04:27
As was stated in the other thread, I believe that is what a URL avatar is for. A secondry one to show more. :no:

FactionHeir
09-30-2007, 09:02
I would have to say no based on the vastly different setting and time period of the custom avatar. Of course, when Fantasy: Total War is released, I may be inclined to change my vote :yes:

UltraWar
09-30-2007, 10:33
Where is the history of this character other than being from a game not affiliated with real history.

Vote:No

TosaInu
09-30-2007, 12:06
I would hate to say no, but I will on the grounds that no one else has custom avatars except for Mods and Admins.

It's about the other URLavatar CountArach. Many have something custom there, either from the public pool or more personal. Before this was set up (for the 2nd time, the 1st was on Ikonboard) there was a public discussion with the members how to do it. Members wanted to have some sort of theme back then, but it didn't became clear what it should be exactly. I have some idea what can be in, but not what can not be in.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pics/avatars/

So, the question is not whether we can have URLavatars, because we do have that, the question is not whether people can add avatars, because they do, the question is not whether people can have a personal URLavatar, because several do, but whether the member decided theme has to be expanded to avatars like this.

Uesugi Kenshin
09-30-2007, 15:53
I don't think the picture fits particularly well with the theme, though it isn't the worst thing you could have come up with, like a race car or something, so I'm not violently opposed to it. I think it'd be better if we stuck a bit closer to the theme. Sorry...

caravel
09-30-2007, 21:47
I had to vote yes. I just don't see this as a major issue, worth any kind of poll - or a major debate. IMHO it should be added to the URL avatars and Zain allowed to use it. The majority of orgahs, and those that are not logged in, won't see it anyway as they won't have the URL avatars enabled.
:2cents:


:bow:

Stig
10-01-2007, 10:31
People like Sigurd and Jag have custom avatars
linkywinky (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/misc.php?do=showavatars&avacatselect=38&submit=Go)

They are however only a little bit customised ... and I think these kind of custom avatars should be possible to have.

pevergreen
10-01-2007, 11:28
Sigurd's is Norse themed (Viking Invasion) therefore in theme. Unsure of Jag's, possibly Shogun?

Omanes Alexandrapolites
10-01-2007, 11:57
Sigurd's is Norse themed (Viking Invasion) therefore in theme. Unsure of Jag's, possibly Shogun?JAG's is a Kensai, a kind of unit, from Shogun: Total War Mongol Invasion. An unedited form of his avatar can be located here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/images/avatars/stw/m/STW005.gif). Basically, all he's done is written the word "spammer" across the top of the image. As Stig has stated, this is only a minor adaptation.

Noir
10-01-2007, 12:35
No - i like the fact that there is a single motiff in avatars that prevents them from sidetracking in various directions, aesthetically and otherwise.

This is a TW related site - and the way it has handle the "to avatar or not to avatar" problem is very good IMO. As far as i am concerned it should remain so.

caravel
10-01-2007, 12:40
Some of you still appear to be confused over the type of avatar in question here. The URL avatars and not the gallery avatars. URL avatars are not visible to guests anyway, only to logged in users, and then only to users that select the view URL avatars option in their usercp.

Noir
10-01-2007, 12:42
I realised its the URL avatar and yet there is still a theme on those too no?

caravel
10-01-2007, 12:47
There is, but it's not restricted to only TW portraits from TW games, is it does seem to be slightly more open.

Anyway my URL avatar is easily the best and it's not even a custom one. :beam:

Noir
10-01-2007, 12:50
That's worse than i thought then - they should all be restricted back to TW themes only available from a public pool and the ones deviating taken away including yours.

Zain
10-01-2007, 13:01
The URL avatars are to show individuality. You can't take that away or you become communists or dictators.

The custom avatar idea is severely bashed currently, so no need to vote anymore. Thanks for all of your inputs!

:bow:

Noir
10-01-2007, 13:06
Sorry Zain,
i was just teasing Cambyses - not expressing strictness in post #19
I did not mean to be disrespectful with your preference or like of that particular character/avatar.

Zain
10-01-2007, 13:08
Thanks for your caution and kindness, but 18 votes out of 22 says no.

Thanks for everyone's input once again.

pevergreen
10-01-2007, 13:10
Subtle mods to avatars, such as JAG's or Andres' are fine. But for bigger changes - URL avatars are the way to go :yes:

TosaInu
10-01-2007, 14:01
The custom avatar idea is severely bashed currently, so no need to vote anymore. Thanks for all of your inputs!
:bow:

It's decided for now then?

What is it that makes this URLavatar unsuited? Is it the anime style, the lack of a weapon (would it be ok if it had say a sword)? Getting some insight here could speed up expanding the pool (and customs) quicker.

pevergreen
10-01-2007, 14:45
I am getting confused now.

Normal avatar: example: me with Hastati.
URL avatar: chosen by player, linked etc.

I was under the impression we were voting for Zain to have the suggested picture in place of his normal avatar (the gaul). I was also under the impression URL avatars are allowed to be chosen at will, with no restrictions, as they are defaulted to off in the User CP. I have them off, as most are big and clunky, but if the vote was for that to be in his URL avatar, I would have voted yes.

caravel
10-01-2007, 15:15
That's worse than i thought then - they should all be restricted back to TW themes only available from a public pool and the ones deviating taken away including yours.
And pray do tell, how is my avatar deviant... :inquisitive: :book2:

My work network has blocked the URL avatars. :furious3:

It's decided for now then?

What is it that makes this URLavatar unsuited? Is it the anime style, the lack of a weapon (would it be ok if it had say a sword)? Getting some insight here could speed up expanding the pool (and customs) quicker.
Does anime style make an avatar unsuited? That's a good question. If some good anime style STW or feudal Japan avatars were available I'd say they'd be acceptable, though I wouldn't use them myself. Lack of a weapon no, as 99% of the portrait avatars lack weapons and also most of the URL ones.


I am getting confused now.

Normal avatar: example: me with Hastati.
URL avatar: chosen by player, linked etc.

I was under the impression we were voting for Zain to have the suggested picture in place of his normal avatar (the gaul). I was also under the impression URL avatars are allowed to be chosen at will, with no restrictions, as they are defaulted to off in the User CP. I have them off, as most are big and clunky, but if the vote was for that to be in his URL avatar, I would have voted yes.
Post #9 of this thread already explains this clearly.

:bow:

TosaInu
10-01-2007, 15:19
Hello pevergreen,

It's about the URL avatars indeed, the big ones you have to enable in the UserCP.

There were several public discussions about how that should be done (topics are still in this forum).

One of the calls was that it should not be totally unrestricted, though that option was offered. Entering any URL does not work.

Then the question was about the file-size and dimensions.

Then there was a call to restrict it to a theme. I recall there was a no for Bart Simpson and that it should be about TW/history or so, but it was never concluded what exactly.

The whole discussion took several months, iirc a year even. So we decided to move ahead whith what we had and just refine while moving.

I know what can be in and when such avatars are uploaded (and that's open for any member), I add them to the pool or if the author wants so, set it so it's for personal use only (better notify me to avoid me to miss it). I have to move them first in both cases.

TosaInu
10-01-2007, 16:09
My work network has blocked the URL avatars. :furious3:


They did? But they are just graphics from this domain. Are they considered too large?

caravel
10-01-2007, 16:51
Just tested in internet exploiter, same problem. I'm not sure if they're considered too large. I doubt it. I'll go to the avatars page and see if that's blocked.

The gallery for the url avatars is blocked, not by domain but based on some overzealous content control software that runs on the server here.

TosaInu
10-01-2007, 17:07
The gallery for the url avatars is blocked, not by domain but based on some overzealous content control software that runs on the server here.

The files are too large perhaps? Can you see this (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/misc.php?do=showavatars)?

caravel
10-01-2007, 17:19
Yes I can see those it's the others that I can't. My organisation has some irritating filtering software set up, so when I try to access the url avatars gallery a message appears telling me that they're blocked by the local server here. Nothing can really be done about it.

While we're on the subject of URL avatars though, it is currently set up in such a way that all members that haven't selected an URL avatar get the default one, this makes it annoying scanning through threads full of members with exactly the same avatar. Can the default for a member that has not selected an URL avatar be simply a blank space instead?

:bow:

sapi
10-02-2007, 09:14
I support that - if that was the case I'd be browsing with them on ~;)

Mouzafphaerre
10-03-2007, 22:26
.
I support Zain's case. URL avatars aren't mandatory. They can tolerate relatively liberal style and content.

:rtwyes:
.

macsen rufus
10-16-2007, 15:51
Well, a big thanks to Zain for raising the question :2thumbsup: I had wondered why so many folks were going invisible, as I had never noticed the URL avatar option before. I will have to get creative now, this Nordic skin is getting a bit tight around the edges :yes:

To the original question, I don't object to it Zain, but I think the general consensus is that it's a bit "out of genre". 'Course, you also have a sig ... though I really like your current one :2thumbsup:

Charge
10-16-2007, 16:13
You can always use profile picture if you want something different.

TosaInu
10-16-2007, 17:13
Well, a big thanks to Zain for raising the question :2thumbsup: I had wondered why so many folks were going invisible, as I had never noticed the URL avatar option before.

Hello macsen rufus,

Do you mean that people stop displaying a small avatar because they want an URL avatar? That isn't necessary at all. Each user can store both in his/her profile. Then it's up to other individual user what to see: one, the other or both.

macsen rufus
10-16-2007, 17:40
Hi Tosa - no, I just didn't realise I had "show URL avatar" turned off, so I saw loads of users with no avatars as a result. Now it's turned on and the likes of Noir and Cambyses now "have a face" for me. They weren't really invisible, I just wasn't looking :beam:

Mouzafphaerre
10-17-2007, 14:41
.
URL avatars are cool but... It's somewhat disturbing to see the same default one when a particular user hasn't actually activated his. Could it be that if a member hasn't chosen to have a URL avatar, nothing is displayed in that area, as is the case with the forum avatars; or a blank (1 x 1 maybe) image used as the default?

I turned off their view just for that nuisance, FWIW...
.

caravel
10-17-2007, 14:57
.
URL avatars are cool but... It's somewhat disturbing to see the same default one when a particular user hasn't actually activated his. Could it be that if a member hasn't chosen to have a URL avatar, nothing is displayed in that area, as is the case with the forum avatars; or a blank (1 x 1 maybe) image used as the default?

I turned off their view just for that nuisance, FWIW...
.
I did mention this earlier in the thread, it can only be a good thing and I only hope that it does get implemented.

I'm not sure how the URL avatars work, but it seems to me that when they're turned on that unless an avatar is specified the user gets that default one. If leaving this blank doesn't help then surely the default avatar could be an image 1x1 pixels in size or something more inventive. As far as I can see the URL avatars are placed between the Username and custom titles in the post row. I would not be difficult to move them down to sit below the gallery avatar and set the default image as something very small and unintrusive (logo etc).

:bow:

TosaInu
10-17-2007, 21:27
Hello,

Several different things have been tried when a user didn't select an URLavatar. Right now there a couple default ones. It's still too repetitive, just leaving it blank isn't really encouraging either.

It should be possible to do something.

pevergreen
10-18-2007, 09:16
.
URL avatars are cool but... It's somewhat disturbing to see the same default one when a particular user hasn't actually activated his. Could it be that if a member hasn't chosen to have a URL avatar, nothing is displayed in that area, as is the case with the forum avatars; or a blank (1 x 1 maybe) image used as the default?

I turned off their view just for that nuisance, FWIW...
.
Massive QFT

This is why i turned it off as well.

sapi
10-18-2007, 10:23
Hello,

Several different things have been tried when a user didn't select an URLavatar. Right now there a couple default ones. It's still too repetitive, just leaving it blank isn't really encouraging either.

It should be possible to do something.
Would it be possible to display a transparant, 1x1px avatar?

macsen rufus
10-18-2007, 18:01
As far as I can see the URL avatars are placed between the Username and custom titles in the post row. I would not be difficult to move them down to sit below the gallery avatar and set the default image as something very small and unintrusive (logo etc).

:2thumbsup: Sounds like a good suggestion. I'm still playing with my "options", so this may be a daft question: the way URL avatars are set up now, is there any real reason to keep two classes of avatar?

I must say the forum has become a lot more colourful since I enabled the option to see URL avatars :2thumbsup: but I've now turned off the standard "show avatar" option, and see little difference except the lack of duplicates....

TosaInu
10-18-2007, 19:13
Would it be possible to display a transparant, 1x1px avatar?

Hello sapi,

That would not promote using them.

sapi
10-19-2007, 14:12
In my case, and in mouzafphaerre's, and in pever's, the URL-avatar option is not enabled simply because the default avatars take up too much space, and look repetitive.

Changing the default to an invisible, tiny one, and then allowing members to choose their own as they currently can, would be the best of both worlds.

Mouzafphaerre
10-20-2007, 13:48
.
I'd rather the URL avatars were shrunk into the forum ones' size. :laugh4: Gotta get too much used to mine I guess. ~:pat:
.

FactionHeir
10-20-2007, 16:22
Umm, so why do I suddenly have an URL avatar? I didn't have one yesterday but today there is one displaying on my profile page.

:gah:

Admintestc3
10-20-2007, 17:57
tst

TosaInu
10-20-2007, 18:52
Hello FactionHeir,

I changed the code a bit. Members were always displaying an URLavatar in the topics. Some tried to use a direct URL, that doesn't work, so that's fixed. I also changed some default ones into something else. I thought this one to be more fitting for you (a Bughunter) than the mounted Japanese samurai. You want something else?

More avatars have been added to the pool, the latest are NTW ones (made by The Lordz (http://lordz.thelordz.co.uk/)): http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pics/avatars/index.php?st=foto&foto_dir=avatar/NTW

FactionHeir
10-20-2007, 19:05
Ah I see. I thought something in the code went wrong causing a random avatar to be generated to my profile.

Normally, I wouldn't want any, but I guess I'll just have one. I changed the mtw6 that you gave me to mtw8, but now nothing displays.

TosaInu
10-20-2007, 19:11
Hello FactionHeir,

Users have the option to display URLavatars or not, I just realised that I should perhaps also do this for the profile viewing. So, the toggle works there too. You do have the URLavatar, but when you also want to see it, you have to toggle it. Should that option be removed again? Always display it in the profile?

FactionHeir
10-20-2007, 19:26
Optional sounds good actually. Lets users with slower connections or byte limited ones choose rather than being forced to load them.

Not an issue for me of course, but an option is better than no option I think.

[edit]
Just tried the checkbox which was unchecked earlier. I think having the option is quite good as it clutters the forum view IMO. For now, I have it turned off.
What my original question was actually asking, was why the URL avatar that I changed to (from the one you gave me) does not display when I view my own profile. It displayed just fine with your old one (and no boxes were checked differently). Do I have to enable URL avatars now to view them in the profile?

TosaInu
10-20-2007, 19:38
What my original question was actually asking, was why the URL avatar that I changed to (from the one you gave me) does not display when I view my own profile. It displayed just fine with your old one (and no boxes were checked differently). Do I have to enable URL avatars now to view them in the profile?

Yes, when you posted asking why you saw it, I realised that the option didn't work in the profileviewing. So I just copied that line half (?) an hour ago. When a user decides not to display URL avatars, he won't see him in the profile either.

It's indeed a good thing to have it optional in the topicviewing, my question was whether it should also be optional in profileview?

FactionHeir
10-20-2007, 19:41
Ahhhh!

I would say make it an additional option for profile as well, so you can choose to have a combination of the two:

a. Not in topic and not in profile
b. In topic but not in profile
c. Not in topic but in profile
d. In topic and profile

That would only need 2 checkboxes rather than 4. It just leads to 4 possible combinations.

Charge
10-20-2007, 19:49
Hello Tosa , FactionHeir,

I think they should always displays in profileview, as we don't view them so much. I won't turn them on in forum, as they take many space, but would like to see them in profile.
Slower connections, hm, I have 64kbps, but it doesn't offends me ...

Yeah, FactionHeir's offer is very reasonable, I think.