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You all support global terrorism.
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You all support global terrorism.
...........:gah2:
You are all funny. I might have to change sides now...
This game is insanity. I mean the Swiss? Declaring war? Don't make me laugh.
When do we need to send turns?
I am appalled by the recent declarations of war against my ally. They seem to have no reason at all. Is this how you all shall act? Protecting terrorists from a man who deserves justice for the death of his nephew at the hands of them?
You all should be ashamed and repent for your sins.
OOC: by joining the Central Powers ~;)
CountArach
10-13-2007, 05:29
Norway looks down on Switzerland and no longer acknowledges its Neutrality in future wars.
My reason is for all of thsi meaningless death. Austria severely over-reacted, and make Serbia pay. I say, It's time Austria got its fill of strife.
As for you, germany. Austria is not after one man. They alone have already killed hundreds of thousands. If we do not stop them, it will become millions. I will not see the death toll rise that high.
OOC: Which is why I respond with more violence...I am a hipocrite! :laugh4:
Surely you realize your contradictory statements?
Surely you realize your contradictory statements?
OOC:...:laugh4: ...I just said that.
If we bring war to Austria, may they see sense and stop this bloodshed. If they continue their campaign against Serbia, millions of civillians will die! Let us sacrifice the few for the many.
Seign Thelas
10-13-2007, 06:19
We have released all of the Serbian prisoners...Into Switzerland.
**** the Swiss. Traitors.
A side-note: We have killed hundreds of thousands of armed criminals. They were not innocents. They are protecting a murderer and his co-conspirators.
We have released all of the Serbian prisoners...Into Switzerland.
**** the Swiss. Traitors.
A side-note: We have killed hundreds of thousands of armed criminals. They were not innocents. They are protecting a murderer and his co-conspirators.
You see, the soldiers are no criminals. They rallied together to stop you from desroying their homeland. The system may be evil, But We will not see you abuse the average soldier. Though you have released the prisoners, We will still press the fight.
-The Senate of Portugal
Seign Thelas
10-13-2007, 06:43
OOC: This game just got...unfun.
Seriously, does everyone in the world really have to declare war on me?
Really it makes no sense.
Really it makes no sense.
And...Thats the fun in it.
WAY OOC: Make the best of a bad situation. Lure the US into war. Back to the Medieval Days of Conquest and glory. We all fight, we all die, we all leave slightly confused, but still happy! Its a game, have fun. Dont let my political ramblings confuse you. I am in the war, because it is more fun, and makes things interesting. Make lots of attacks, so that I have stuff to write about.
I'm at war with the guy who's hosting the game. Makes my head hurt. :dizzy2:
Some stuff I forgot to post:
Losing cities: If you lose a city, you lose a fraction of your total population and un-deployed troops. Say, You have 4 cities, and you have a population of 4 million. You have 100,000 undeployed men. One city is taken, along with 1 million people, and your use of 25,000 of those men. (You lose a fraction of your people dependent on your number of cities. 4 cities, 1/4th per city. 24 cities, 1/24th per city.)
I will not take any unfair advantage over anybody. As I have said before, I plan all of my actions out in advance. So, I attack, lets say Paris. Paris gets an extra 400,000 troops this turn. still attack, and likely lose.
Seign Thelas
10-13-2007, 07:13
To the United States:
My nephew was murdered in cold blood by a subordinate of the Serbian government. I declared war and invaded Serbia. The numerous crybaby governments of Europe have risen up and seek to destroy me for defending my family and security. Please help
-Franz Joseph
Ruler of the Austro-Hungarian Empire
OOC: Okay, let me look at this situation:
Me + Germany vs. Britain, Russia, Greece, Serbia, Italy, and ****in' Switzerland, Portugal, and whoever else is joining the gangrape of my country.
Really it makes no sense.
I quite agree.
In real it more or less went like this:
Austria declares war on Serbia
Russia does not like this and declares war on Austria
Germany does not like that and declares war on Russia
France joins its ally and declares war on Germany and Austria
End of story
Portugal, wtf, they don't even know where Serbia is. Greece, they would want to get out as soon as possible.
Switzerland, they don't even know what war is.
Warmaster Horus
10-13-2007, 09:13
The United States is considering the problem Austria faces.
We see it this way: your family has been attacked, and you attack thousand more? Is that not exagerated?
While the United States will not declare on Austria, we will not declare war on the rest of the world. We wish for hostilities to cease immediately.
If Austria withdraws its troops from Serbia, and moves towards peace talks with its foes, and its foes refuse to acknowledge that, then the United States of America will be forced to take action.
The United States of America
OOC: in other words, austria withdraw, and the others keep attacking him. Then, austria will have a new ally, and the others will have their doomsday clock ticking.
Edit: stig's right. Perhaps Portugal should have a ceasefire with austria, at least.
wtf does America have to do with it? They came in the war after a civilian ship was sunk, they want nothing to do with Europe
Let yourself be drawn into war, don't join in:
That goes for all countries except Serbia, Russia, Austria, Germany and France.
So... Many... Historical... Mistakes...
On another note, will it be possible to use a time machine to refight the battle of Belgrade (It is spelled like this! Not Beograd! :laugh4:) We may have only half the Austrian army's men, but I got large fort, trenches, and the entire city on my side! How did we lose???:wall:
woad&fangs
10-13-2007, 12:33
After recieving a certain secret message from the Portugese we have determined them and the French to be even more of an imperialist bully than Austria. We recommend that Spain reinforces its borders with France and Portugal. Italy will declare war on Portugal and France. We are willing to cease hostilities against the Austrians. In exchange, they must let us keep the land we have already conquered and immediatly withdraw all forces from Serbia.
The Dutch are willing to act as negotiators in any peacetalks.
Furthermore we wish to state that the entire world is overreacting. Let Austria and Serbia fight it out gentlemen. What does Portugal have to do with it? They cannot even attack both countries.
We Dutch don't see what we have to do with it. We're happy sitting here, on our nice and sunny beaches.
Also we want to take our money from our Swiss bankaccounts, can't have money in a country at war, can we?
woad&fangs
10-13-2007, 13:03
Portugal and France are conspiring to attack the (as far as I know) neutral country of Spain. They also tried to lure me into this conspiracy. We Italians will honor the neutrality of Holland.
RoadKill
10-13-2007, 13:09
Switzerland, I respect your decision, but I think you should pull out, you are in a very dangerous spot between many violent countries. If they attack you will be crushed, it is better just to cease fire.
-King George V
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-13-2007, 14:42
Switzerland, I respect your decision, but I think you should pull out, you are in a very dangerous spot between many violent countries. If they attack you will be crushed, it is better just to cease fire.
-King George V
On Second thought, I just better foritied my country more :yes: . I will also change my mind and go back to being netrual. If anyone attacks me, they would proably lost a hell alot of soliders (I am heavily foritited you know)
So did I, and guess what happened to my capital... :furious3:
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-13-2007, 17:00
So did I, and guess what happened to my capital... :furious3:
Well, I will prove them wrong if they invade Swissland
Adolf Hernmann
RoadKill
10-13-2007, 17:19
Just to remind you we have a NAP with Switzerland so if you attack them, I'll be kicking your butt.
Portugal and France are conspiring to attack the (as far as I know) neutral country of Spain. They also tried to lure me into this conspiracy. We Italians will honor the neutrality of Holland.
Spain is part of the Central Powers.
woad&fangs
10-13-2007, 17:52
Spain is part of the Central Powers.
:shame: I guess I messed up the sneak attack.
:shame: I guess I messed up the sneak attack.
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Seign Thelas
10-13-2007, 19:57
Well, Italy, you see, we don't trust you, anyway. We weren't going to take your word for anything. You're a traitor, and you always will be.
woad&fangs
10-13-2007, 20:16
Well, Italy, you see, we don't trust you, anyway. We weren't going to take your word for anything. You're a traitor, and you always will be.
I may be, but I'll be a traitor who owns half of your empire.
Seign Thelas
10-13-2007, 20:24
Why not the whole thing?
woad&fangs
10-13-2007, 20:33
Because I'm fighting for the rights of the Serbs and not to be an imperialist~:flirt:
Seign Thelas
10-13-2007, 20:48
How about I assassinate your heir? Would you like that? How would you react?
Thank you, Italy. Once again...you screw it up...
EDIT:
On second thought, I will stay in this war untill Spain withdraws.
woad&fangs
10-13-2007, 21:38
How about I assassinate your heir? Would you like that? How would you react?
Unlike your backwards monarchy, we have prime ministers so you would have a hard time finding an heir to assasinate. On second thought I will declare war on Portugal. OOC: Just to knock the host out of the game.
Go back to neutrality and we will spare you and your pidley peasants.
CountArach
10-14-2007, 01:26
I am so damn confused. Can we have a list of who is in which alliance at this point?
Entente:Britain, France, Portugal, Greece, Serbia, Italy, and Russia I believe.
Central Powers:Germany, Austria-Hungary, Spain.
CountArach
10-14-2007, 01:35
Thanks Ichigo - Central Powers look to be screwed...
RoadKill
10-14-2007, 02:44
Germany, if France and I attack together, you can kiss your land goodbye. Don't forget Russia. We can hit you in three diffrent sides, crushing you.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-14-2007, 04:32
Just to remind you we have a NAP with Switzerland so if you attack them, I'll be kicking your butt.
Thank you for your Protecting KingGeorge. Plus if they do attack and if they try to overrun us, they will lose heavy losses before they do!
Adolf Hernmann
RoadKill
10-14-2007, 04:35
I'm shaking in my boots.
Germans don't wear boots.
Germans don't wear boots.
Then what do we wear?
Julian the apostate
10-14-2007, 08:41
My dear friends in GErmany, I would like to propose peace and a nonagression treaty for now. Our intrests are more southerly.
CountArach
10-14-2007, 09:13
Norway is interested in asking Russia for a non-Agression pact. We hope that your agreement will foster a nerw era of peace and prosperity for both our peoples.
In addition, Norway wishes to know how many nations are willing to respect their neutrality in the coming war and are willing to guarantee our nations independence.
The mighty kingdom of Serbia respects the neutrality of Norway!
My dear friends in GErmany, I would like to propose peace and a nonagression treaty for now. Our intrests are more southerly.
Send us a private envoy to discuss this.
Pm deadline....now. I will have the next turn up shortly.
I.C. Well, considering the "friendliness" of the Entete, We are pulling out of The War.
CountArach
10-14-2007, 22:28
What? You join the war, then you pull out? This is getting too strange for me.
woad&fangs
10-14-2007, 22:29
I hope I got my turn in on time:sweatdrop:
Edit: Operation: Last Second Orders is a success
Ill have the turns finished later today, or tomorrow.
Julian the apostate
10-15-2007, 00:43
I gladly say that Russia is unwilling to Invade our fellow northerners in Norway and hold to their neutrality
King Jan III Sobieski
10-15-2007, 01:58
The mighty kingdom of Serbia respects the neutrality of Norway!
I, Constantine I., King of the Hellenes, vow to respect the neutrality of the great Norse Kingdom.
CountArach
10-15-2007, 02:02
Norway is pleased by all this respect for their Neutrality. We are also heartened by the Russians guarantee to not attack our lands.
We recommend that Spain reinforces its borders with France and Portugal. Italy will declare war on Portugal and France. We are willing to cease hostilities against the Austrians. In exchange, they must let us keep the land we have already conquered and immediatly withdraw all forces from Serbia.
Go away! Bah! Unbeliable! BS!.
Who are you? Who do you think I am? Now, I proceed to declare war on Portugal, shameless spying of his leader, and Italy, as publicy declaring an attack at our faction. WE WONT RETREAT, Senate of Portugal! Now, face the consecuences of shameless public actions.
Now, Spain closes all fronteers with those nations. Portugal will face the consecuences! Now, its time to WAR! A la CARGA!
King Jan III Sobieski
10-15-2007, 02:17
Go away! Bah! Unbeliable! BS!.
Who are you? Who do you think I am? Now, I proceed to declare war on Portugal, shameless spying of his leader, and Italy, as publicy declaring an attack at our faction. WE WONT RETREAT, Senate of Portugal! Now, face the consecuences of shameless public actions.
Now, Spain closes all fronteers with those nations. Portugal will face the consecuences! Now, its time to WAR! A la CARGA!
Vhat???:inquisitive:
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Go away! Bah! Unbeliable! BS!.
Who are you? Who do you think I am? Now, I proceed to declare war on Portugal, shameless spying of his leader, and Italy, as publicy declaring an attack at our faction. WE WONT RETREAT, Senate of Portugal! Now, face the consecuences of shameless public actions.
Now, Spain closes all fronteers with those nations. Portugal will face the consecuences! Now, its time to WAR! A la CARGA!
Shameless spying? Need I remind you that I run the game. I am technically spying on everybody. (:cheesy: ). I do not use this info to any advantage, however, I make my plans before I submit the turn to the public. Short of Italy damn near declaring war on me, I do not change them.
Serbia now declares war upon Spain, in solidarity with our brave allies.
The Map:
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October, 1914
Turn 4: Paris Attacked!
A massive force of 1,100,000 Germans attacked the completely undefended French capital of Paris. hearing news that the enemy was marching on their fair city, 400,000 undeployed soldiers in Paris rally together to defend their city. The battle quickliy went door to door, civillian casualties are high. (for specifics, look at the battle info below). However, despite their difficulties, the french have managed to hold onto much of the city. Spain however, has been much more successful. The attack on Bayonne was a hard fight, But Spain was victorious, and managed to take the city just yesterday. Toulouse, however, was not so lucky. Spainish soldiers launched a surprise attack on the city of Toulouse, which immediately resulted in Spainish victory. there were thousands of french captured, and Spanish forces recieved only slight losses. The civillians took the worst blow. Italy takes much of southern austria, once again, they were unmolested in their assault. This is a sad day for Europe...
Let turn 5 begin, November, 1914.
If you want a report on your nation, pm me.
The battles:
the battle of paris
the battle of bayonne
the battle of toulouse
Battle of praris
Round 1:
Germany vs. France
1,100,000 vs. 400,000
Germany rolls 80. France rolls 50. 88,000 French casualties. 110,000 civillian casualties
Round 2:
France on Germany
312,000 on 1,100,000
France rolls 48. Germany rolls 84. 4,792 German casualties. 2,396 civillian casualties
Round 3:
Germany on France
1,095,208 on 312,000
Germany rolls 26. France rolls 24. 43,283 French Casualties. 10,536 civillian casualties
Round 4:
France on Germany
268,717 on 1,095,208
France rolls 95. Germany Rolls 71. 14,806 German casualties. 3,702 civillian casualties
Round 5:
germany on France
1,080,402 on 268,717
Germany rolls 46. France rolls 94. 5,964 French casualties. 994 civillian casualties
Round 6:
France on Germany
262,753 on 1,080,402
France rolls 91. germany rolls 99. 478 German casualties. 119 civillian casualties
Round 7:
Germany on france
1,079,924 on 262,753
Germany rolls 76. france rolls 82. 29,547 French casualties. 7,387 civillian casualties
Round 8:
France on germany
233,206 on 1,079,924
france rolls 73. germany rolls 91. 3,064 german casualties. 766 civillian casualties
Round 9:
germany on France
1,076,860 on 233,206
germany rolls 29. france rols 70. 18,737 french Casualties. 4,684 civillian casualties.
Round 10:
france on germany
214,269 on 1,076,860
france rolls 67. germany rolls 88. 3,449 german casualties. 862 civillian casualties
Round 11:
germany on france
1,073,441 on 214,269
germany rolls 39. France rolls 34. 55,259 French casualties. 13,815 Civillian casualties
Round 12:
France on germany
159,010 on 1,073,441
France rolls 84. germany rolls 69. 8,281 german casualties. 2,070 civillian casualties.
So far:
remaining:
Germany:
1,065,160 + 11,613 = 1,076,773 german troops
France:
159,010 + 80,330 = 239,340 French troops
Civillian deaths:
157,331 - 52,444 = 104,887 Civillian deaths
Battle of Bayonne
Round 1:
Spain vs. France
1,500,000 on 200,000
Spain rolls 45. France rolls 82. 24,300 French casualties. 30,375 Civillian Casualties.
Round 2:
France on Spain
175,700 on 1,500,000
France rolls 44. Spain rolls 75. 3,865 Spanish Casualties. 1,933 Civillian Casualties.
Round 3:
Spain on France
1,496,135 on 175,700
Spain rolls 25. France rolls 94. 4,488 French casualties. 1,122 Civillian casualties.
Round 4:
France on Spain
171,212 on 1,496,135
France rolls 37. Spain rolls 50. 6,335 Spainish Casualties. 1,584 Civillian Casualties.
Round 5:
Spain on France
1,489,800 on 171,212
Spain rolls 98. france rolls 73. 78,840 French casualties. 19,911 Civillian casualties
Round 6:
92,372 on 1,489,800
France rolls 74. Spain rolls 20. 6,946 Spainish Casualties. 1,737 civillian casualties.
round 7:
Spain on France:
1,482,854 on 92,372
Spain rolls 77. France rolls 99. 2,284 French casualties. 571 civillian casualties.
Round 8:
France on Spain
90,088 on 1,482,854
France rolls 37. spain rolls 29. 4,733 Spainish casualties. 1,183 Civillian casualties
Round 9:
Spain on France
1,478,121 on 90,088
Spain rolls 35. france rolls 75. 25,867 french casualties. 6,467 Cicillian casualties.
Round 10:
france on Spain
64,221 on 1,478,121
france rolls 50. Spain rolls 10. 5,780 Spainish casualties. 1,445 Civillian casualties
Round 11:
Spain on France
1,472,341 on 64,221
spain rolls 42. France rolls 57. 53,181 French casualties. 13,295 civillian casualties.
Round 12:
france on spain
11,040 on 1,472,341
France rolls 72. Spain rolls 16. 1,335 Spainish casualties. 334 civillian casualties.
France retreats. Captured by Spainish Forces.
Spain wins.
Remaining:
Spain:
1,471,006 + 9,664 = 1,480,670 troops
France:
11,040 + 62,987 = 74,027 prisoners
Civillian Deaths:
79,956 - 26,652 = 53,304 Deaths
battle of Toulouse
Round 1:
Spain vs. france
1,500,000 vs. 200,000
Spain rolls 92. france rolls 50. 138,000 french casualties. 172,500 civillian casualties
Round 2:
France on Spain
62,000 on 1,500,000
france rolls 76. Spain rolls 95. 471 spainish casualties. 235 civillian casualties.
France retreats. Captured by Spainish forces
Spain wins
remaining:
Spain:
1,499,529 + 157 = 1,499,686 troops
france:
62,000 + 46,000 = 108,000 prisoners
Civillian deaths:
172,735 - 57,578 = 115,156 Civillian deaths
new tactics employed:
City defense: + 10
national city (in possesion before 1914): +10
Hostile city defense (belonged to enemy in last two turns): -10
civillian casualties taken in city battles (prevented by forts) (times .25 for round 1, times .1 for round 2, times .5 for consecutive rounds)
1/3 of casualties recover from wounds
No 100, only 99
If an army is captured, they get one round of fight first.
~:thumb: Went far better then I ever would have expected.
Seign Thelas
10-16-2007, 02:28
**** this game. I had troops deployed on the Italian border.
RoadKill
10-16-2007, 03:50
Okay, France I'm coming to your aid, with all of my 8 million troops. :beam:
seireikhaan
10-16-2007, 03:58
Umm, yeah... kinda forgot about this game for a while.:sweatdrop: Oops.
The mighty Serbians will also send our brave allies aid... once we have destroyed the Austrian menace!!!
Julian the apostate
10-16-2007, 17:36
Ottomans, I have no yet heard yet whether or not my men will be given passage through your land. I also demand any remants of Armenia that you still hold. May God Bless you if you agree and Save you if you deny
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-16-2007, 20:44
I hope the nations in this senseless war respect the Swiss Borders.
Adolf Hernmann
Okay, France I'm coming to your aid, with all of my 8 million troops. :beam:
I suggest to retreat right now. This is not your matter. This is Spain vs. France, no one else is involved in this matter. Run away.
I dont have a PM from Motep.
**** this game. I had troops deployed on the Italian border.
they had invaded south of the border...across the sea...had you told me to stick troops down there, I would have made them fight for it.
Also, turns are due on saturday...so Ill get the new turn in sunday.
RoadKill
10-17-2007, 00:09
I suggest to retreat right now. This is not your matter. This is Spain vs. France, no one else is involved in this matter. Run away.
I dont have a PM from Motep.
Retreat? THIIISS.. ISSS.. BRIITAAIIIINNN!!!!!
I'll give you one month to pull your troops out of France before we take this seriously
Retreat? THIIISS.. ISSS.. BRIITAAIIIINNN.
I'll give you one month to pull your troops out of France before we take this seriously
My Diplomats are laughing right now!
Seriously, if you disembark in France, all the captive soldiers will die. Unless you don't do it...
seireikhaan
10-17-2007, 01:48
I suggest to retreat right now. This is not your matter. This is Spain vs. France, no one else is involved in this matter.
Really? And what mayhaps might I ask I did? And if this is between you and me, then why is Germany also invading?:inquisitive:
Retreat? THIIISS.. ISSS.. BRIITAAIIIINNN.
I'll give you one month to pull your troops out of France before we take this seriously
With Germany and Spain in France don't plan on staying too long ~;)
seireikhaan
10-17-2007, 02:02
The French government hereby anounces that it has adopted a policy of complete pacifism, and will not fight back against any opponent confrontationally. We urge our citizens to not fight back directly, and use only peaceful methods should they decide to attempt to slow enemy advance. We urge all our bretheren in Europe to join us in our pacifistic ideals. We wish all everybody a good day. Au revoir.
Seign Thelas
10-17-2007, 02:02
Really? And what mayhaps might I ask I did? And if this is between you and me, then why is Germany also invading?:inquisitive:
I agree. I'm allied with them, but I agree with you. I call for one-on-one country fighting.
woad&fangs
10-17-2007, 02:11
The country of Italy is sickened by the cowardly ruler of France. We ask that all Frenchmen who wish to see a free and independent France join the Italian army and assemble at Monaco.
OOC: If France isn't going to fight then I want at least some of their soldiers.
Seign Thelas
10-17-2007, 02:19
We, of Austria, see that the Italian ruler's only interest is to expand. If the French people flee to the side of Italy, the Italians will simply attempt in vain to conquer the occupied French land for themselves. We encourage the French to stay at home and fight for their own country.
The Emperor of Austria-Hungary hereby realizes that Serbia deserves independence, and the entire country and its citizens can not be held at fault for the actions of a few wayward souls. We would enter into negotiations with the Serbian government, if he would allow for it.
woad&fangs
10-17-2007, 02:32
We provide to the leaders of the central powers a list of demands.
1. Serbia is returned all of its land and hostilities against Serbia Cease.
2. All French land is returned to the French in addition to the territory of Alsace-Lorraine and hostilities are immediatly ceased.
3. Deutchland, Espana and Osterreich pay reparations for all lives and property that has been lost by the French and Serbians. The amount will be decided on by the neutral countries of Switzerland and Holland.
4. We are allowed to maintain control of the city of Trieste.
RoadKill
10-17-2007, 03:05
Is that a challenge Spain and Germany? I'll show you what we are capable of.
Any attempt to land on French soil will be met with fierce resistance from Germany.
Seign Thelas
10-17-2007, 03:10
1. Serbia is returned all of its land and hostilities against Serbia Cease.
Serbia will decide its own terms. And if the Italians continually make demands such as these, they will not live to regret it.
2. All French land is returned to the French in addition to the territory of Alsace-Lorraine and hostilities are immediatly ceased.
You can deal with that yourself. But know that I will support my allies if needs be.
3. Deutchland, Espana and Osterreich pay reparations for all lives and property that has been lost by the French and Serbians. The amount will be decided on by the neutral countries of Switzerland and Holland.
No.
4. We are allowed to maintain control of the city of Trieste.
No.
Italy looks to be a warmongering state, eh?
We provide to the leaders of the central powers a list of demands.
You are not in conditions of demanding us. España won't negotiate with Italy at the moment.
We provide to the leaders of the central powers a list of demands.
1. Serbia is returned all of its land and hostilities against Serbia Cease.
2. All French land is returned to the French in addition to the territory of Alsace-Lorraine and hostilities are immediatly ceased.
3. Deutchland, Espana and Osterreich pay reparations for all lives and property that has been lost by the French and Serbians. The amount will be decided on by the neutral countries of Switzerland and Holland.
4. We are allowed to maintain control of the city of Trieste.
These are impossible demands for you to make. Germany will not accept such one-sided demands especially from the losing side.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-17-2007, 13:42
We have no ploblems figuring out what Austria-Hungargy and the rest of them should pay in reparations. You cause a War, you pay up.
Adolf Hernmann Of The Swiss
You speak of peace Austria???
Will you repay the death 420,000 of our brave soldiers? Will you repay the damage you caused to our glorious capital???
THIIIISS...IIISSSS....SEEEERRRBBBIIIIAAAAAA!!!!!
We will not have peace, until you return our captured men, pay reparations, and apologise for starting the war. In return we will turn the criminals who killed your heir to an international court.
On the other hand, Serbia is outraged at the behaviour of the French, and will fully support Italy and Britain in their endeavours.
Seign Thelas
10-17-2007, 18:23
You speak of peace Austria???
Will you repay the death 420,000 of our brave soldiers? Will you repay the damage you caused to our glorious capital???
Sure. I'll even throw in the offer of an alliance for no extra charge. You can have your prisoners back, and name your price for reparations.
Note: This isn't ending the war. I still hate you, Italy. :laugh4:
We provide to the leaders of the central powers a list of demands.
1. Serbia is returned all of its land and hostilities against Serbia Cease.
2. All French land is returned to the French in addition to the territory of Alsace-Lorraine and hostilities are immediatly ceased.
3. Deutchland, Espana and Osterreich pay reparations for all lives and property that has been lost by the French and Serbians. The amount will be decided on by the neutral countries of Switzerland and Holland.
4. We are allowed to maintain control of the city of Trieste.
Last thing I heard Switzerland was not neutral.
Furthermore:
1. Austria and Germany are winning as it seems
2. They did not cause this global conflict
Seign Thelas
10-17-2007, 19:10
By the way, I'm not giving your capital back. It's mine. That's the only reason I'll rebuild it.
If countries want peace however Holland is willing to lead negotiations:
Since Spain and Germany are winning in France:
1. Germany shall retreat out of France.
2. For every died German soldier France shall pay the amount of 100 Reichsmark.
3. Spain shall retreat out of France but keep France Basque-country and Bayonne.
4. For every died Spanish soldier France shall pay the amount equivalent to 100 Reichsmark.
Since Austria is winning against Serbia:
1. Serbia shall pay the equivalent of 100 Reichsmark for every died Austrian soldier.
2. Austria will keep all land.
Since Italy and Austria are stalemated:
1. Both countries sign a cease-fire immediatly.
Additional payments can be negotiated
If countries want peace however Holland is willing to lead negotiations:
Since Spain and Germany are winning in France:
1. Germany shall retreat out of France.
2. For every died German soldier France shall pay the amount of 100 Reichsmark.
3. Spain shall retreat out of France but keep France Basque-country and Bayonne.
4. For every died Spanish soldier France shall pay the amount equivalent to 100 Reichsmark.
Since Austria is winning against Serbia:
1. Serbia shall pay the equivalent of 100 Reichsmark for every died Austrian soldier.
2. Austria will keep all land.
Since Italy and Austria are stalemated:
1. Both countries sign a cease-fire immediatly.
Hm... why should we pay for the Austrian soldiers? A loss of 200,000 for Austria is nothing... but the death of 420,000 of our brave men are 10% of our population!!!
And if we agree to Austria's offer of peace, will we keep Sarajevo? Afterall, Sarajevo are fellow Slavs, and if they join us, perhaps they will not rebel again... And we ask for the return of our glorious capital! Surely you must know that the Slavs will rebel again and again... In return, we will pay 1000 for every dead Austrian soldier, sound fair enough?
We have no ploblems figuring out what Austria-Hungargy and the rest of them should pay in reparations. You cause a War, you pay up.
Adolf Hernmann Of The Swiss
I suggest keep out of this matter.
Hm... why should we pay for the Austrian soldiers? A loss of 200,000 for Austria is nothing... but the death of 420,000 of our brave men are 10% of our population!!!
He who loses pays, the enemies of Austria and Germany seem to want peace, well that means they are losing.
We are not interested in peace at the moment unless we are given conditions that are favorable to us.
CountArach
10-17-2007, 23:55
The French government hereby anounces that it has adopted a policy of complete pacifism, and will not fight back against any opponent confrontationally. We urge our citizens to not fight back directly, and use only peaceful methods should they decide to attempt to slow enemy advance. We urge all our bretheren in Europe to join us in our pacifistic ideals. We wish all everybody a good day. Au revoir.
Ahhh, the Ghandi move, and intriguing prospect.
The French government hereby anounces that it has adopted a policy of complete pacifism, and will not fight back against any opponent confrontationally. We urge our citizens to not fight back directly, and use only peaceful methods should they decide to attempt to slow enemy advance. We urge all our bretheren in Europe to join us in our pacifistic ideals. We wish all everybody a good day. Au revoir.
We do not believe in such words. How can I know you are creating the knife that will be used to kill us?
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-18-2007, 00:56
I suggest keep out of this matter.
Hard to when every major country around us is at War.
Adolf Hernmann
Seign Thelas
10-18-2007, 02:39
Hm... why should we pay for the Austrian soldiers? A loss of 200,000 for Austria is nothing... but the death of 420,000 of our brave men are 10% of our population!!!
And if we agree to Austria's offer of peace, will we keep Sarajevo? Afterall, Sarajevo are fellow Slavs, and if they join us, perhaps they will not rebel again... And we ask for the return of our glorious capital! Surely you must know that the Slavs will rebel again and again... In return, we will pay 1000 for every dead Austrian soldier, sound fair enough?
If your capital is returned, then we expect the return of Sarajevo. All land shall stay with its current owners, otherwise.
Perhaps we will return Sarajevo, but we must have your promise that Slavs all across the empire be treated fairly.
And why is Serbia considered the loser? We may have lost our capital, but we have made gains in Sarajevo!
Belgrade is Vienna, Sarajevo is a little provincial town.
Till now the losers are:
France and Serbia
And the winners are:
all others
King Jan III Sobieski
10-18-2007, 17:32
Perhaps we will return Sarajevo, but we must have your promise that Slavs all across the empire be treated fairly.
And why is Serbia considered the loser? We may have lost our capital, but we have made gains in Sarajevo!
Exactly!!!!
Seign Thelas
10-18-2007, 21:01
Perhaps we will return Sarajevo, but we must have your promise that Slavs all across the empire be treated fairly.
And why is Serbia considered the loser? We may have lost our capital, but we have made gains in Sarajevo!
OOC: I think he means loss-wise.
IC: We shall treat all Slavs and Serbs fairly in our borders, we may be vengeful, but we are not racist. In addition: Open acts of aggression against people because of their nationality will not be tolerated. If you wish it, we will allow all Serbs to migrate to Serbia, as well
woad&fangs
10-19-2007, 02:39
We fail to see how we are losing. We control large chunks of the Austrian empire and have yet to lose a single soldier.
Seign Thelas
10-19-2007, 04:43
You've yet to kill a single soldier.
CountArach
10-19-2007, 08:40
You've yet to kill a single soldier.
That does complicate the whole winning the war thing.
So does Austria agree with da terms???
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-19-2007, 18:15
Techanlly, if you guys go for peace now,would the game end then :laugh4: :inquisitive: ?
Nah, Serbia was forced into this war. Other countries werent :yes:
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-19-2007, 18:25
Nah, Serbia was forced into this war. Other countries werent :yes:
Ah Ok :beam:
Seign Thelas
10-19-2007, 19:20
Keep Sarejevo. I'm keeping your capital. Otherwise, I accept.
So its just a city-exchanging thing + my captured soldiers? No money involved?
woad&fangs
10-19-2007, 20:26
Okay we admit that we are a bunch of impirialist bastards. We declare War on France.
Hehe... the Entente is falling apart, thankfully I'm making peace:beam:
woad&fangs
10-19-2007, 20:31
And if we haven't already, we Declare war on Deutchland.
Look how the Entente is falling apart.
Should I laugh? Anywya, seeing the posistion of France, they have placed in the slot of 'pro-entete", while russia has been moved to "entete"
full list of alliances is in first post.
Seign Thelas
10-20-2007, 01:11
To Serbia:
All current land shall stay in its owner's hands. No money involved, take your prisoners, and we'll declare the war over.
To Serbia:
All current land shall stay in its owner's hands. No money involved, take your prisoners, and we'll declare the war over.
If you two are calling peace, Ill have to rename alliances...and find just who is what alliance. Pm to me who you are personally allied with, and ill get right on it.
Serbia makes peace with Austria :beam:
woad&fangs
10-20-2007, 16:18
Who needs Serbia in the Entente. My terms still stand. Meet them or perish. We will still win.
PS: No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition.
PPS: Keep a look out for awkward turtles.
PPPS: To Austria, We will both definately lose some soldiers this time.
Seign Thelas
10-20-2007, 18:18
Okay. Hey Serbia, you wanna ally with me, eh? Eh?
Nah, too much blood has been spilt, but Serbia will keep the peace:beam:
RoadKill
10-20-2007, 23:45
We shall announce to the public (including kal' motep) that Britain will give control of 150 000 to Switzerland for their protection, if you assault the swiss then you will be attacking the British as well.
-King George V
I can't believe it. I'm ashamed of Great Britain. You are manipulating the Swiss people, people who dont want to be in this conflict. What a bad move.
I suggest the Swiss people should be declared enemies, as they are allies of the British people.
Now, what do you, Swiss people, want to do? Great Britain is using your people to force your peacefull nation into war!
Alfonso XIII
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-21-2007, 01:36
We Gladly Take the 150,000 Man force of England! It will only Increase our Army Size from 605,000 Troops (after the 1/10 in turn 4,this upcomnig one) to 755,000, yes, but it will reduce the pressure on our army a bit.
If we are Declared Enemies, So Be it! We do not wish to sneak War! But If a Country wants to go to War qwith us, We will defend Our Country to the fullest!
To Italy:
Have our Dipomet reach your captital yet with our Message? (respond in PM Wal)
King Jan III Sobieski
10-21-2007, 03:28
Can't we all just get along??? People making peace; other peoples making war! :dizzy2: :dizzy2: :dizzy2:
RoadKill
10-21-2007, 03:47
I can't believe it. I'm ashamed of Great Britain. You are manipulating the Swiss people, people who dont want to be in this conflict. What a bad move.
I suggest the Swiss people should be declared enemies, as they are allies of the British people.
Now, what do you, Swiss people, want to do? Great Britain is using your people to force your peacefull nation into war!
Alfonso XIII
Is there something wrong with providing my ally with support. I have over 8 million troops, while Switzerland has little. They are sorrunded by dangerous countries, who are foolish enough to assault the Swiss just for power. Yes, I'm referring to you Spain, why did you drag France into the war? Have they done anything t oyour lands? And how am I dragging the Swiss into war, when I just want to protect my allies borders.
We Gladly Take the 150,000 Man force of England! It will only Increase our Army Size from 605,000 Troops (after the 1/10 in turn 4,this upcomnig one) to 755,000, yes, but it will reduce the pressure on our army a bit.
Which pressure are you talking about, you are supposed to be neutral? Well, it seems this man is a liar.
Yes, I'm referring to you Spain, why did you drag France into the war? Have they done anything t oyour lands? And how am I dragging the Swiss into war, when I just want to protect my allies borders.
It was simple enough. France could attack us. They were prepared in one of the two cities. Those troops could attacked Spain. That was a threat to our nation.
RoadKill
10-21-2007, 04:40
I have troops prepared at my souther borders, am I a threat to you as well? Becuase if I am I would gladly detroy you.
-King George V
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-21-2007, 04:43
Which pressure are you talking about, you are supposed to be neutral? Well, it seems this man is a liar.
It was simple enough. France could attack us. They were prepared in one of the two cities. Those troops could attacked Spain. That was a threat to our nation.
Simple Enough it is, then any of the 4 major countries by my border could attack me even though I am netrual.
I have troops prepared at my souther borders, am I a threat to you as well? Becuase if I am I would gladly detroy you.
-King George V
The difference between you and France is that France is near.
No more pms. i have a report i have to finish tomorrow, so I might not be able to get a turn up.
Btw, I am now neutral, Okay?
Who wants to guarantee by independece? :clown:
I am almost done, just need to do a few battles, and Ill have everything ready for you. be patient, I am going slow thsi turn, I am sorry.
King Jan III Sobieski
10-23-2007, 04:05
I am almost done, just need to do a few battles, and Ill have everything ready for you. be patient, I am going slow thsi turn, I am sorry.
'tis OK, Kal, 'tis OK!!! :yes:
Greece shall await further word of news from the rest of the European world.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-23-2007, 14:25
I am almost done, just need to do a few battles, and Ill have everything ready for you. be patient, I am going slow thsi turn, I am sorry.
No Worries Kal!! The Swiss will Send Soliders to help you fight this ploblem called Real Life! :beam:
Adolf Hernmann
Now, I'm really dissapointed about this game. I want to destroy them!
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-23-2007, 19:09
Now, I'm really dissapointed about this game. I want to destroy them!
Destroy Who :beam: ?
woad&fangs
10-23-2007, 23:39
Destroy Who :beam: ?
I think he means portugal.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-23-2007, 23:52
I think he means portugal.
Ah ok :yes:
I think he means portugal.
I don't want to.
Ill have to update tomorrow...I got kicked off, i dont have the time right now to go on my side to get my map. Sorry, please bear with me.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-24-2007, 13:18
Ill have to update tomorrow...I got kicked off, i dont have the time right now to go on my side to get my map. Sorry, please bear with me.
Take your Time Kal!! This is so exciting! :yes: :wall:
Oh goody, so much anticiapation.
The map:
https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/Motep_the_Great/europe_map_1900_4.jpg
Turn 5
November, 1914 The Akward Turtle
Germany, Spain, and Italy took vast amounts of territory from the Nation of France, and there is expected to be a heavy resisitance movement. There are even rumors floating around about an assasination attempt on the French leader. We have gotten no official word about this, though we have seen the would be executioner's corpse. Itlay began operation: Spainish inquisition against the spainish, and have taken the city of barcelona without a fight. Operation: Freedom Fry is calling all French soldiers to the Italian side, to fight against foriegn invaders. Operation Bonaparte took the island of Cosica. The inhabiatants are said to be even better off than before the Itlaians came, and there is almost no french opposition to Italian control. Operation: Big battle brought 1,000,000 Italians to surge against the fortress city of Laibach in Austria. The Austrians have held out against superior numbers, and have caused heavy casualties for the Italians. In Operation: Awkward turtle, we had almost three million soldiers fighting each other. TheAustrians were much better commandewd and trained, as they dealt over half a million casualties to the italians, who fell into trap after trap. More details on the battles below. As said, it has been a bloodbathed month for Europe, and with even more nations mobilizing for war, who can tell what will happen next. Untill Next Time, this Is Kal 'Motep, for GSRN News. (please, sombody! Get my reference to _________!!!)
EDIT::::Britain invades Northern Germany, aqnd catches the folks up there largely off guard: there was no resistance, and Britain has gained a powerful foothold on german lands. Germany has indeed taken paris.
the battles:
Operation: Awkward turtle
Round 1:
part one
Italy vs. Austria
1,500,000 vs. 1,429,539
Italy rolls 34. Austria rolls 54. 48,960 Austrian casualties.
part two
Austria vs. italy
1,429,539 vs. 1,500,000
Aust rolls 60. Italy rolls 78. 37,740 Italian casualties.
Round two:
part one
Italy vs. Austria
1,462,260 vs. 1,380,579
Italy rolls 28. Austria rolls 53. 38,487 Austrian casualties
round two
Austria vs. italy
1,380,579 vs. 1,462,260
aust rolls 31. italy rolls 62. 32,526 italian casualties
rounf three:
part one
italy vs. austria
1,429,734 vs. 1,342,092
italy rolls 37. Austria rolls 20. 86,640 austrian casualties
part two:
aust vs. italy
1,342,092 vs. 1,429,734
aust rols 93. italy rolls 28. 179,733 italian casualties
Round four:
part one:
italy vs. auast
1,250,001 vs. 1,255,542
italy rolls 20. Aust rolls 57. 21,500 aust casualties
part two:
aust vs. italy
1,255,542 vs. 1,250,001
aust rolls 39. italy rolls 20. 78,340 italian casualties
Round 5
part one:
1,171,661 vs. 1,234,042
Italy vs. aust
italy rolls 24. aust rolls 72. 15,747 aust casualties
part two
1,234,042 vs. 1,171,661
aust vs. Italy
aust rolls 96. italy rolls 99. 2,369 italian casualties
round 6:
part one:
1,169,292 vs. 1,218,295
italy vs. aust
italy rolls 47. aust rolls 66. 37,370 aust casualties
part two:
aust vs italy
1,218,295 vs. 1,169,292
aust rol,s 97. italy rolls 24. 179,625 italian casualties
remaining:
italy:989,667 + 170,111 = 1,159,778 italians
austria: 1,180,925 + 82,871 = 1,263,796 austrians
Operation: Big battle
eound 1
part one:
italy vs. auastria
1,000,000 vs. 300,000
italy rolls 27. aust rolls 99. 540 austrain casualties
part two:
aust vs. Italy
aust rolls 71. italy rolls 45. 23,430 italian casualties
round 2:
italy vs. austria
976,570 vs. 299,460
italy rollls 21. austria rolls 44. 27,071 aust casuialties
part two:
aust vs. italy
aust rolls 72. italy rolls 89. 4,743 italian casualties
round 3:
italy vs. aust
971,827 vs. 272,389
italy rolls 30. aust rolls 91. 5,248 aust casualties
part two:
aust vs. italy
aust rolls 74. italy rolls 11. 35,879 italian casualties
round 4:
italy vs. aust
935,948 vs. 267,141
italy rolls 91. aust rolls 91. 15,331 aust casualties
part two:
aust vs. italy
aust rolls 71. italy rolls 59. 15,553 italian casualties
round 5:
italy vs. aust
920,395 vs. 251,810
italy rolls 28. aust rolls 97. 1,546 aust casualties
part two:
aust vs. italy
aust rolls 99. italy rolls 37. 31,411 italian casualties
round 6:
italy vs. aust
888,984 vs. 250,264
italy rolls 55. aust rolls 96. 3,912 aust casualties
part two:
aust vs. italy
aust rolls 87. italy rolls 89. 4,790 italian casualties
remaining:
italy: 884,198 + 38,602 = 922,800 troops
Austria: 246,352 + 17,883 = 264,235 troops
woad&fangs
10-25-2007, 01:47
To Spain: Give all French territory to me and I will return Barcelona and the surrounding countryside to you.
Thanks Motep for including the names of my operations.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-25-2007, 01:55
OCC: Can you send me a Report about my Country Kal?
seireikhaan
10-25-2007, 02:00
Untill Next Time, this Is Kal 'Motep, for GSRN News. (please, sombody! Get my reference to _________!!!)
:laugh4: Mercenaries? :gah:
RoadKill
10-25-2007, 02:57
Kal' Motep I think you forgot to mention my assault on Germany....
Nobody willing to protect poor little Serbia? :embarassed:
Looks like we have to protect ourselves then... the country of Serbia proudly proclaims the founding of the League for the Protection of Balkan States! (League of PBS for short...) All Balkan countries and Slavic countries welcome to join :2thumbsup:
King Jan III Sobieski
10-25-2007, 12:58
Nobody willing to protect poor little Serbia? :embarassed:
Looks like we have to protect ourselves then... the country of Serbia proudly proclaims the founding of the League for the Protection of Balkan States! (League of PBS for short...) All Balkan countries and Slavic countries welcome to join :2thumbsup:
I'll help you, Peter! I'll join your League for the Protection of Balkan States! :yes: :smash: :yes: :smash: :yes:
:egypt:
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-25-2007, 15:59
Would Serbia like to have some Fincial Support? :yes:
14 points of the League of PBS Charter:
If any country invades one of the League countries, they will have to face all of the League’s military might.
Economic aids from other countries are ALWAYS accepted.
The League would welcome the following countries into the League: Albania, Montenegro, Bulgaria and Romania.
The League will act in its self interest, and should it feel its positions are threatened, we may or may not resort to war.
Any territories conquered by the League, at the end of the war, that does not contain any Slavic populations will be given back to its country of origin, unless it wants to be independent.
We also promote the freedom of all Slavs in all other countries should they wish to be independent.
The League will foster trade; all trades between member nations will have reduced taxes.
The League will not join any other alliances unless that alliance is the enemy of my enemy.
Neutrality of neutral countries will be respected.
The League will also promote Self-Determination for all races, not just Slavs.
Terrorist actions will be condemned.
Should any threats of warfare disappear, the League will promote disarmament.
All League members will enjoy freedom of navigation in all League seas.
Should the peace return, we will promote an even bigger League encompassing all of the countries of the World!
The League always needs money :yes:
woad&fangs
10-25-2007, 17:41
To the PBS: We are currently in control of slavic lands in the southern Adriatic. We wish to make this land an independent slavic state(to be called Dalmatia). We ask that you assist your slavic bretheren and let them enter the PBS. Because of the current war among European Powers we will station soldiers in Dalmatia until they are able to raise an army of their own.
It is agreed.
List of Members of the League now:
Serbia
Greece (Not sure)
Italian Puppet State of Dalmatia
However, should your troops violate the charter of the League, you shall have the full might of the League to content with!!! :clown:
Julian the apostate
10-25-2007, 19:51
I'm in the league of defense. I can aid by donating money or troops but I am not willing to invade another country
I suppose Russia is a Slavic country...
List of Members of the League now:
Serbia
Greece (Not sure)
Italian Puppet State of Dalmatia
and Russia, Protector of the Slavs :beam:
woad&fangs
10-25-2007, 23:00
A Message from the Dalmatians: Will Austria honor our independence? Also, we resent the title of Puppet state or Puppet Nation. We are a free and independent country that has kindly asked the Italians to protect us from the agressive, ugly and smelly Austrians. We will hold our first elections in February. Until then all business can be handled through the wise and honorable Nation of Italian.
:laugh4: Mercenaries? :gah:
YES! YES IT IS! YOU HAVE WON ... nothing!!!
yaaaay!!!!
Okay, news report has been editorized, and the world is functioning properly. Please note, however, that Libya is Italian country, and will be edited in as such unless I find out otherwise.
Seign Thelas
10-26-2007, 01:09
Well, we weren't going to invade Dalmatia, which, by the way, has the faint scent of roses throughout its territories. And we stand by not invading. I hope you like living under Italian rule.
Italians are not good. Retreat now, and you wont suffer.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-26-2007, 01:14
Italians are not good. Retreat now, and you wont suffer.
You Stil lconsder the Swiss Enemies?
Adolf Hernmann of the Swiss
woad&fangs
10-26-2007, 01:18
Well, we weren't going to invade Dalmatia, which, by the way, has the faint scent of roses throughout its territories. And we stand by not invading. I hope you like living under Italian rule.
Those roses were planted by Italian peacekeepers.
You Stil lconsder the Swiss Enemies?
Adolf Hernmann of the Swiss
I don't. I just was doing something which went wrong. We could agree for a NAP between our countries if you want. If you dont want, I will tolerate your country.
Seign Thelas
10-26-2007, 01:34
Those roses were planted by Italian peacekeepers.
Claiming to keep peace when YOU declared war on my country? Funny.
Please remember that Dalmatia is pseudo-member of the League of PBS, any hostile actions against it will be against us! :yes:
woad&fangs
10-27-2007, 00:11
So Kal, when are the orders for the next turn due?
...tomorrow? Yeah, thats allfine and dandy with me.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-27-2007, 01:12
...tomorrow? Yeah, thats allfine and dandy with me.
Get my Stuff Motep? :beam:
Get my Stuff Motep? :beam:
*sigh*...yes, I did...
Did my order count? It's not much... I'm just waiting for someone to violate the League Charter so we can crush them into nothingness :beam:
woad&fangs
10-27-2007, 17:40
Wow, after doing a bit of reading I realized that the half million Italians that died in Operation Awkward Turtle is about the same number of total Italians that died in the entirety of the real WWI.
Wow, after doing a bit of reading I realized that the half million Italians that died in Operation Awkward Turtle is about the same number of total Italians that died in the entirety of the real WWI.
Well, blame the machine gun, and bad tacticians. (I should probably tweak the battle thing again...)
Seign Thelas
10-27-2007, 18:08
I'm sure the real Italians didn't stupidly throw a million men at a heavily fortified Austrian border all at once.
woad&fangs
10-27-2007, 18:17
I'm sure the real Italians didn't stupidly throw a million men at a heavily fortified Austrian border all at once.
The problem was obviously that I didn't send enough men. # of soldiers shouldn't be a problem this turn.
I have a question. If Italy can only mobilize 850000, how can they attack with 1.5 mil?? How many soldiers have invaded northern Germany?
woad&fangs
10-27-2007, 18:49
Italy has 5.5 million soldiers to start with.
Italy has 5.5 million soldiers to start with.
Mobilizations for attack will cost you $400 per soldier. (germany makes $650,000,000. This can mobilize 1,625,000 troops.)
I have yet to attack with more than that. If I could France would have already have been conquered. I think I've tried.
Just let the game continue.
woad&fangs
10-27-2007, 18:55
Then I have know clue. If what you said is indeed the case then their is no chance in Hell that I have enough cash for all my orders this turn.
Edit: Ichi, please prepare the PWN Cat, dvd rewinder, or the tank. Operation Spaghetti Tree is only going to have maybe a third of the troops I had originally planned so I'm probably going to be destroyed this turn.
What money you dont use is carries over.
PM DEADLINE....Wait for it...come one...just a few more seconds...................NOW!!!!!
Okay, Ill likely have the turn up in the next few days.
My spies have information about Italy. That nation is going to sink Russians and US navies. I suggest to contact me for more information.
woad&fangs
10-29-2007, 01:13
Spain is Full of LIessssssssssssss!!!!!!!!
We were only planning on Sinking US ships. We still love the Ruskies, They are our fellow mafia loving, alcohol loving allies.
We were only planning on Sinking US ships
QFT
Such action will be unstoppable for the US, unless that nation took inmediatly actions against Italy.
woad&fangs
10-29-2007, 01:17
We were only going to sink US ships to make it look like the Spaniards were responsible. We no longer have any dastardly intentions of Sinking US ships.
We dont want war with the US. Italy yes.
woad&fangs
10-29-2007, 01:23
Why would we want War with the US? They also have a prominent mafia and a love of Alcohol. Support Freedom!!! Support The Entente!!! Support Italy!!!
Cash is very much appreciated.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-29-2007, 01:37
Why would we want War with the US? They also have a prominent mafia and a love of Alcohol. Support Freedom!!! Support The Entente!!! Support Italy!!!
Cash is very much appreciated.
Could Be Arrgained :2thumbsup:
woad&fangs
10-29-2007, 01:39
OOC: I'm in the chat right now.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-29-2007, 02:09
OOC: I'm in the chat right now.
talk to you in chat later :beam:
talk to you in chat later :beam:
Come in the chat
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-29-2007, 03:34
Nice Convo :D
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-29-2007, 15:01
We Will Join Italy in Declaring War on the Central Powers :beam:
Er... does historical accuracy has no meaning in this game???
Anyhoo, due to the recent escalations in warfare, the League of PBS will upgrade from DEFCON 5 to 4, all troops will be stationed in border cities, fear the League!
woad&fangs
10-30-2007, 01:17
Er... does historical accuracy has no meaning in this game???
Anyhoo, due to the recent escalations in warfare, the League of PBS will upgrade from DEFCON 5 to 4, all troops will be stationed in border cities, fear the League!
We've been having diplomatic negotiations for a while now. So, GvI, do you like your Barcelonians well done, or rare?
We Will Join Italy in Declaring War on the Central Powers :beam:
So:
Declaration of Spain, El Pais newspaper
Our leader, Alfonso XIII, told to El Pais newspaper about the following war coming.
"He knew they told lies. Their words are one, but their actions are others. Its unbeliable that the Swiss leader, have declared war when they claimed to be neutral. Such traition will lead to war.
"We, the Spanish people, believe that Swissland should fall. We cannot stand at such people"
We asked about the war with Italy. He told in few lines that Italy will be attacked, no matter how much time is need, the leader of the Italian nation, who told lies about doing peace, but the recently attack of Barcelona is telling that Italy is showing signs of war, and we will reply about the situation. If things go ok, we will free Italy from that leader.
woad&fangs
10-30-2007, 01:41
OOC: if you think that I'm bad now just wait until the next Italian election in this game. I'll give you a hint. Mussolini will win due to *cough*legitimate votes*cough*definately not rigged by the mafia at all*cough*
KOombayah My Lord, Koombayah!!!! I'll bring the gram crackers, the Brits can bring the marshmallows, and the Swiss can provide the chocolate and the Entente can have a little Bonfire party in Barcelona. Do ya want s'more!!!!! We'lll give ya S'MORE!!!!!
The declaration by the Swiss comes with little surprise to the Kaiser. We will bring this war to a swift end.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-30-2007, 02:51
OOC: if you think that I'm bad now just wait until the next Italian election in this game. I'll give you a hint. Mussolini will win due to *cough*legitimate votes*cough*definately not rigged by the mafia at all*cough*
KOombayah My Lord, Koombayah!!!! I'll bring the gram crackers, the Brits can bring the marshmallows, and the Swiss can provide the chocolate and the Entente can have a little Bonfire party in Barcelona. Do ya want s'more!!!!! We'lll give ya S'MORE!!!!!
Cashews and Milk we will bring also:beam:
Try to Invade Swissland. See how many troops you will lose if you can take us!
Why when I can just sit around? You can't hurt me.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-30-2007, 03:24
Why when I can just sit around? You can't hurt me.
What to bet?
RoadKill
10-30-2007, 03:33
Germany have you forgot the troops that I have provided the Swiss with, and if they want more, I'll give them more.
Germany have you forgot the troops that I have provided the Swiss with, and if they want more, I'll give them more.
Such thing will lead to war also.
Julian the apostate
10-30-2007, 03:52
Russia would like to remind all that as Christians there is no reason to fight
RoadKill
10-30-2007, 03:53
Taking over half of France will also lead to War, Spain.
Russia, we are fighting for a good cause. These people have stripped France of their own rights and property. I ask you to assist me on aiding France and let them recover their lands again.
Russia would like to remind all that as Christians there is no reason to fight
Russia, please stay away from this war.
seireikhaan
10-30-2007, 04:06
Russia would like to remind all that as Christians there is no reason to fight
Ah, finally, another ruler who agrees with me. Violence in any form is a dirty and shameful act, and the French government once again urges all citizens to never take violent action against any other people. However, we also urge the citizenry to stand down from any government attempting to conscript them into the army. We also would like to tell the French citizenry that they are, under no uncertain terms, to work with any foreign agressors, be it as a soldier or at a factory under their control. By peaceful resistance, we can repel any invasion!
Taking over half of France will also lead to War, Spain.
Russia, we are fighting for a good cause. These people have stripped France of their own rights and property. I ask you to assist me on aiding France and let them recover their lands again.
You must remember that the French were the aggressors.
seireikhaan
10-30-2007, 12:50
You must remember that the French were the aggressors.
:no: Never did we invade anyone, Kaiser. I am not quite sure what you have been smoking, but whatever it was, it must have been some powerful stuff indeed.:yes:
Seign Thelas
10-30-2007, 16:10
:no: Never did we invade anyone, Kaiser. I am not quite sure what you have been smoking, but whatever it was, it must have been some powerful stuff indeed.:yes:
I don't think the Germans are the ones smoking anything, you pacifist hippy.
And I mean that in the best possible way. I like the hippies. Never have I met a hippy I haven't liked.
:no: Never did we invade anyone, Kaiser. I am not quite sure what you have been smoking, but whatever it was, it must have been some powerful stuff indeed.:yes:
You declared war on Germany and the Central Powers. That makes you the aggressor. ~;)
woad&fangs
10-30-2007, 17:49
Who cares, the winner gets to write the history books and the Entente will win. Therefore you are the agressor.
Who cares, the winner gets to write the history books and the Entente will win. Therefore you are the agressor.
History hasn't been written yet... btw, my ambassador to Dalmatia tells me that they wish to be ruled by a free government with their own army... will you give it to them? :inquisitive:
Julian the apostate
10-30-2007, 18:50
yay hippies also are we waiting for another turn to come out?
Forgot about you Bulgaria... wanna join the completely neutral League of PBS?
We can let the Bulgarians go whereever they want... :laugh4:
And yes to your question
woad&fangs
10-30-2007, 22:38
OOC: Stephen Asen has Bulgaria and he has said he won't join the PBS.
IC: Dalmatia will have its first election in February.
King Jan III Sobieski
10-31-2007, 12:55
OOC: Stephen Asen has Bulgaria and he has said he won't join the PBS.
IC: Dalmatia will have its first election in February.
Long live the Dalmatians!!! :pirate2: :tnt: :duel:
OOC: Stephen Asen has Bulgaria and he has said he won't join the PBS.
:shame: I thought the Julian the Apostate was Bulgaria... people should state which country they were representing first! :furious3:
And long live the Dalmatians too!
woad&fangs
11-03-2007, 01:44
The Dalmatians have begun to make progress in their quest to become a fully functioning nation. They have in their wisdom chosen the Jolly Roger as their national flag.
In other news, We Italians wish to see a peacefull end to this conflict and inquire as to the terms the Central Powers wish to have fufilled in order to end the war.
Sorry for the delay of turn, It will be up in two days at the most
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
11-04-2007, 01:00
Take you time Motep :-)!
3 days has passed...:whip:
:clown:
Well, it's not my fault they increased my homework on me. Not to mention that I couldnt go n yesterday, adn i have less than an hour for today, so please be patient. RL is killing my game....I might have to postpone it for a while...:sweatdrop:
No problem Motep, I just want to makes sure that Serbia will remain strong :clown:
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
11-09-2007, 23:45
Swiss Must Remain Strong to!! :clown:
RoadKill
11-12-2007, 00:10
So... whats going on.
woad&fangs
11-12-2007, 01:18
We are waiting for Motep to post the results of the last turn. Apparently real life and his mafia game are interferring with this.
King Jan III Sobieski
11-12-2007, 21:53
Greek Kingdom rocks! :yes: :beam: :yes:
We are waiting for Motep to post the results of the last turn. Apparently real life and his mafia game are interferring with this.
Ya think?! Ive had to read two books for english, Weve been running through the history book like its going out of style, and I still dont know why the hell we need to have a biology test twice a week (and a good report turned in with it) WHY DID ALL MY CLASSSES HAVE TO BE HONORS!!! Anyways, Ive been really busy the past week, but I will work on this tomorrrow. You have my word. :bow:
(ps, sorry it is sooo late :cry: )
I am ridiculously short on time here. Put the game on hold. Sorry.
No problem.
Soon the world will be under the domination of mighty SERBIA!!! (and the rest of the PBS...)
Er...I meant "soon the world will be under the peaceful leadership of Serbia and her loyal allies"
With break and all, I might have time to work on this thing tomorrow. (right now, Im making a lasagna, so I cant really get too involved with the computer....)
YAAAAY!!!
Sorry for the triple post here, but the turn is finally finished!! (once you see all the battles, youll see why it took a while...)
Turn 6: December, 1914
Map
:https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/Motep_the_Great/europe_map_1900_5.jpg
November was truly a month to remember. Hundreds of thousands have been killed for a pointless war, one in which we see no end in sight. However a new slavic league, the League for the Protection of Baltic States (PBS for short) is doing its best to promote peace in Europe.
Italy is truly going downhill this year, their operations have been stagnated or destroyed alltogether. Their french holdings have been taken by germany, and over 250,000 Italian soldiers lie in German hands, signaling the failure of Operation: Freedom Fry. Barcelona was retaken by a million spainsh tropps, which completely overran and captured their city. Over 100,000 Italians taken prisoner of the Spainish. In The newly created Slavic state of Dalmatia, orders for the removal of over a million troops failed to reach Italian generals. The Austrians invaded the puppet state, but were repulsed once again. If the withdrawals would have taken place, Dalmatia would once more lie in Austrian Hands. Elections for the leader of Dalmatia will commence in February. . Assaults on the Austrian cities of Trient and Laibach met with failure. Attacking Trient, over 70,000 Swiss met theiir end. However, the Italians have had some success securing the state of Libya.
5 more plots against the French leader were detected this month. A bomb placed in the Parliamentary building eventually killed the French leader, along with 23 members of Parliament and 12 bystanders. The man responsible is yet to be caught. Germany Invaded once more, and has succeded in taking the rest of France, with no opposition. With invaders from all sides, the leaderless French people are glad to have someone to protect them. The States of Morocco and Algeria have formed their own nations, and rulers there are yet to be revealed.
OOC NEWS: Dalmatia will become a cpu state in February, as have become of Morocco and Algeria. France has been extinguished. A rebellion will not occur, due to recent hatred for their leader, and France is content to be in German hands.
The Battles:
Operation: Awkward turtle
Round 1:
part one
Italy vs. Austria
1,159,778 vs. 1,263,796
Italy roll 75. Aust rolls 29. 92,637 Aust casualties
part two
1,263,796 vs. 1,159,778
Aust rolls 27. Italy rolls 56. 22,521 Italy casualties
Round 2:
part one
Italy vs. Austria
1,137,257 vs. 1,171,159
Italy rolls 28. Aust roll 42. 27,704 aust casualties
part two
1,171,159 vs. 1,137,257
aust rolls 14. Italy rolls 89. 2,705 italian casualties
Round 3:
part one
Italy vs. Austria
1,134,552 vs. 1,143,445
Italy rolls 21. Aust rolls 60. 14,295 aust casualties
part two
1,143,445 vs. 1,134,552
aust rolls 92. italy rolls 27. 115,191 Italian casualties
Round 4:
part one
Italy vs. Austria
1,019,361 vs 1,129,150
Italy rolls 24. Aust rolls 73. 9,908 aust casualties
part two
1,129,150 vs. 1,019,361
aust rolls 65. italy rolls 87. 14,312 italian casualties
Round 5:
Italy vs. Aust
1,005,049 vs. 1,119,242
italy rolls 30. aust rolls 74. 11,759 aust casualties
part two
1,119,242 vs. 1,005,049
aust rolls 16. Italy rolls 84. 4,298 italy casualties
Round 6:
Italy vs. Aust
1,000,751 vs. 1,107,483
italy rolls 97. aust rolls 25. 109,207 auts casualties
part two
1,107,483 vs. 1,000,751
aust rolls 99. Italy rolls 12. 144,726 italy casualties
remaining: 856,025 + 101,251 = 957,276 Italians
998,276 + 88,507 = 1,086,783 Austrians
Operation: Big battle/ *wallbang* (due to the bonuses of the large fort and city defense, asut is determined from 55-100)
round 1
part one:
Italy vs. auastria
1,722,800 vs. 1,367,038
italy rolls 75, aust rolls 99. 1,938 aust casualties
part two:
1,367,038 vs. 1,722,800
aust rolls 71, italy rollls 21. 115,016 italian casualties.
Round 2
part one:
Italy vs. Austria
1,607,784 vs. 1,365,100
italy rolls 27. aust rolls 69. 20,186 aust casualties
part two:
1,365,100 vs. 1,607,784
aust rolls 76. italy rolls 73. 42,018 italian casualties
Round 3:
part one:
Italy vs. Austria
1,565,766 vs. 1,344,914
italy rolls 94. Aust rolls 56. 97,140 aust casualties
part two:
1,344,914 vs. 1,565,766
aust rolls 72. italy rolls 59. 59,553 italian casualties
Round 4:
part one:
Italy vs. Austria
1,506,213 vs. 1,247,774
italy rolls 99. aust rolls 63. 82,759 aust casualties
part two:
1,247,774 vs. 1.506.213
aust rolls 58. italy rolls 90. 10,855 italian casualties
Round 5:
part one:
Italy vs. Austria
1,495,358 vs. 1,165,015
italy rolls 57. aust rolls 68. 40.913 aust casualties
part two:
1.165.015 vs. 1.495.358
aust rolls 94. italy rolls 96. 6,571 italian casualties
Round 6
part one
italy vs. austria
1,488,787 vs. 1,124,102
italy rolls 31. aust rolls 84. 11,077 aust casualties
part two
1,124,102 vs. 1,488,787
aust rolls 97. italy rolls 17. 135,752 italian casualties
Remaining: 1,353,035 + 123,255 = 1,476,290 Italians
1,113,025 + 84,671 = 1,197,696 austrians
Operation: Spaghetti Tree
round 1
part one
Italy + Swissland vs. Austria
268,750 + 145,000 vs. 300,000
Italy rolls 32. Swiss rolls 92. Aust rolls 99, 98. 529 aust casualties.
part two:
300,000 vs. 268,750 + 145,000
aust rolls 94, 58. Italy rolls 89. swiss rolls 17. 4,653 Italian, 21,663 swiis casualties
Round 2
part one
Italy + Swissland vs. Austria
264,097 + 123,337 vs. 299,471
italy rolls 71. swiss rolls 21. asut rolls 60,81. 12,032 aust casualties.
part two:
299,471 vs. 264,097 + 123,337
aus rolls 82, 69. Italy rolls 14. Swiis rolls 82. 31,678 italian, 5,579 swiss casualies.
Round 3:
part one
Italy + Swissland vs. Austria
232,419 + 117,758 vs. 287,439
italy rolls 98. swiss rolls 89. aus rolls 55, 68. 20,972 aus casualties
part two
287,439 vs. 232,419 + 117,758
aus rolls 64, 76. italy rolls 78. Swiss rolls 57. 6,071 italian, 14,068 swiss.
Round 4:
part one
Italy + Swissland vs. Austria
226,348 + 103,690 vs. 266,467
italy rolls 45. swiss rolls 21. aust rolls 67, 80. 5,695 aust casualties.
part two:
266,467 vs. 226,348 + 103,690
aust rolls 77,65. italy rolls 25. swiss rolls 58. 23,081 italian, 10,912 swiss casualties.
Round 5:
part one
Italy + Swissland vs. Austria
203,267 + 92,778 vs. 260,722
italy rolls 51. swiss rolls 92. aus rolls 84, 69. 6,457 aus casualties.
part two
260,722 vs. 203,267 + 92,778
aus rolls 83,95. italy rolls 87. swiss rolls 19. 4,220 italian, 30,094 swiss casualties.
Round 6:
199,047 + 62,684 vs. 254,265
italy rolls 99. swiss rolls 36. aus trolls 64, 78. 11,387 aus casualties.
part two"
254,265 vs. 199,047 + 62,684
aus rolls 66,96. italy rolls 57. swiss rolls 31. 10,824 italian, 25,264 swiss casualties.
remaining: 188,223 + 26,842 = 215,075 Italians.
37,420 + 35,860 = 73,280 Swiss.
254,265 + 15,245 = 269,510 Austrians.
Battle of Barcelona
round 1
part one
Spain vs. Italy
1,000,000 vs. 300,000
spain rolls 34. italy rolls 62. 19,380 italian casualties
part two
300,000 vs. 1,000,000
italy rolls 75. spain rolls 87. 4,388 spainish casualties
Round 2
part one
Spain vs. Italy
995,612 vs. 280,620
spain rolls 99. italy rolls 28. 106,451 italian casualties
part two
280,620 vs. 995,612
italy rolls 67. spain rolls 48. 14,665 spainish casualties.
Round 3
part one
Spain vs. Italy
980,947 vs. 173,869
spain rolls 70. italy rolls 58. 43,260 italian casualties.
part two:
173,869 vs. 980,947
italy rolls 42. spain rolls 64. 3,943 spainish casualties.
Round 4
part one
Spain vs. Italy
977,004 vs. 130,609
spain rolls 79. italy rolls 39. 70,623 italian casualties.
part two:
130,609 vs. 977,004
italy rolls 75. spain rolls 96. 588 spainish casualties.
Round 5
part one
Spain vs. Italy
976,416 vs. 59,986
Italy surrenders
remaining: 976,416 + 7,861 = 984,277 Spainish
59,986 + 80005 = 139,991 Italian prisoners
Battle of Nice
Round 1:
part one
Germany vs. Italy
200,000 vs. 50,000
germany rolls 52. Italy rolls 24. 11,856 Italian Casualties. 19,760 civillian casualties.
part two
50,000 vs. 200,000
italy rolls 19. germany rolls 61. 698 german casualties. 926 civillian casualties.
Round 2
part one
Germany vs Italy
199,302 vs. 38,144
germany rolls 99. Italy rolls 48. 15,390 Italian casualties. 10,260 civillian casulaties.
part two
38,144 vs. 199,302
Italy rolls 37. germany rolls 40. 1,270 german casualties. 847 civillian casualties.
Round 3
part one
198,032 vs. 22,754
germany rolls 40. Italy rolls 64. 4,277 italian casualties. 1,426 civillian casualties.
part two
22,754 vs. 198,032
italy rolls 48. Germnay rolls 51. 803 german casualties. 267 civillian casualties.
Round 4
part one
197,229 vs. 18,477
germ roles 71. Italy rolls 20. 16,804 italian casualties. 5601 civ casualties.
part two
18,477 vs. 197,229
italy rolls 46. Germany rolls 51. 623 german casualties. 208 civ casualties.
Round 5
part one
196,606 vs. 1,673
Italy surrenders
remianing: 196,606 + 1,131 = 197,737 Germans
1,673 + 16,109 = 17,782 Italian prisoners
26,197 civillian deaths
Operation: Cobra
Round 1
Germany vs. Italy
600,000 vs. 268,750
part one
germany rolls 85. italy rolls 60. 30,600 Italian casualties
part two
Italy rolls 58. Germany rolls 77. 5,378 german casualties
Round 2
Germany vs. Italy
594,622 vs. 238,150
part one
germany rolls 95. Italy rolls 51. 41,519 Italian casualties
part two
italy rolls 94. germany rolls 46. 18,133 german casualties
Round 3
Germany vs. Italy
553,103 vs. 196,631
part one
germany rolls 99. Italy rolls 34. 54,010 Italian casualties
part two
italy rolls 29. germany rolls 31. 8,211 german casualties
Round 4
Germany vs. Italy
544,892 vs. 142,621
part one
germany rolls 77. Italy rolls 52. 30,209 Italian casualties.
part two
italy rolls 68. Germany rolls 63. 5,383 german casualties.
Round 5
Germany vs. Italy
539,509 vs. 112,412
part one
Germany rolls 86. Italy rolls 45. 38,278 Italian casualties.
part two
italy rolls 72. germany rolls 41. 7,163 german casualties.
Round 6
Germany vs. Italy
532,346 vs. 74,134
part one
germany rolls 54. Italy rolls 70. 12,936 Italian casualties.
part two
italy rolls 59. germany rolls 62. 2,493 German casualties.
Italy surrenders
Remaining: 529,853 + 23,382 = 553,235 Germans
61,198 + 51,888 = 113,086 Italian prisoners
Long live the League of PBS!!!
I am getting tired of this little war, can we have a peace conference where everyone can present their views formally? Say... in the palace of Versailles?
The German juggernaut rolls on.
woad&fangs
12-27-2007, 23:52
Italian terms for ending the war are:
*All troops are withdrawn from France
*I keep Corsica and Trieste
*I return the Balearic Islands to Espana
*All Italian Troops are returned
*All attacks on Dalmatia cease
*I will demilitarize my border
These terms are negotiable. Let us meet someplace to discuss an end to this awful war. Besides, General Winter controls the battle field for the next few months and it would be unwise to pick a fight with him.
deadline for this game is...tuesday! Get those turns in!
seireikhaan
12-28-2007, 08:49
:cry:
I was a good leader, why kill me?
:laugh4:
France is no longer an state, just dust of the past. You can't claim the withdraw of France, as it is no longer a country.
I suggest my terms of this end of war:
*Cease of Fire between Italy and Spain
*Retreat of all Italian Troops of the new frontier between Italy and Spanish France.
*Return of the Balcan Islands to Spain.
Deal?
woad&fangs
12-28-2007, 22:35
I expect that my soldiers you have captured will be returned unharmed.
I will only return the Balearic Islands if you withdraw your claim on French lands.
If these terms are met then I agree.
Lets do this deal. My same conditions as above, but I return your soldiers unharmed.
woad&fangs
12-28-2007, 22:43
My terms remain.
I will return the islands but in return you must abandon your claims on French land.
Austria has already agreed to a peace treaty. Their mongrel dog would be well advised to do the same before it was put down.
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