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Pannonian
10-02-2007, 06:05
Is this a true statement? Or are they no worse than Wallabies and Springboks?
seireikhaan
10-02-2007, 06:39
:inquisitive: Of course its not true. All of the black people I know are relatively normal people, and are not any more violent than any of the white people I know.
Samurai Waki
10-02-2007, 06:42
Many exude a tough imagine, but I think its from generations of being kicked down and put out, and this is a front saying "not anymore." No, what a nonsensical question, blacks are just as human as you, I, or anyone else in this world.
EDIT: Yes, Yes they are. Destroy them. ;)
Duke of Gloucester
10-02-2007, 06:48
Perhaps this will help:
The All Blacks (capital letters important) (http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/teams/team=37/index.html)
It's a violent game and New Zealand tend to play within the laws.
Ironside
10-02-2007, 06:50
Is this a true statement? Or are they no worse than Wallabies and Springboks?
:inquisitive:
False.
Even the claim that all humans can be violent or even the claim that all blacks can be violent are false.
Edit: Hm I knew that I should've done a search on Wallabies and Springboks
Ser Clegane
10-02-2007, 07:56
Just to make it clear for anybody who is drawn to this thread by the somewhat ambivalent (but not inaccurate with regard to the actual topic) thread title.
This is not about racial issues - so pleaase do not use this thread to discuss racial issues (such posts will be removed at the moderators' discretion).
Thanks
Ser Clegane
:bow:
InsaneApache
10-02-2007, 08:51
I haka say that this thread needs a pun. :sweatdrop:
Geoffrey S
10-02-2007, 08:54
Interesting. People assumed it was a racial issue, despite the clues...
Mikeus Caesar
10-02-2007, 08:58
I see what you did there...
Louis VI the Fat
10-02-2007, 14:29
Springboks and wallabies - you know what they're famous for? For jumping up as high as they can in the face of danger.
Unlike the blues. If the all blacks, those embracers of thug culture, think they can use their dirty tricks on the blues they're wrong. All the French rugby players are drawn from just ten départements, in the South and South-west. Not the civilised, refined France. But from the rough country. Basques and Catalans too – tough mountain dwellers.
These guys fight for family and village. The proud descendants of the Lascaux cave people.
https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4232/chabal1vsitaliemaxpppni6.jpg
https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9482/articlesgegqh9030070717wc0.jpg
https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9044/c00058992331932aj3.jpg
:knight:
KukriKhan
10-02-2007, 15:53
The haka (<--vid link) (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V8DX_8-uXUk) they perform, pre-game, suggests violence, but it doesn't look any worse than other team-rousers used by many professional sports.
American football teams often do a chant-thing just before kick-off, though rarely as a display aimed at the other team (more aimed at the TV camera, I think).
InsaneApache
10-02-2007, 15:57
LMFAO that Aussie wasn't bothered one little bit. Did you see his face? :laugh4:
scotchedpommes
10-02-2007, 16:28
https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9044/c00058992331932aj3.jpg
:uhoh:
I am more concerned that the poor soul on the right is kissing the
bearded one's knee, as it were.
DemonArchangel
10-02-2007, 16:55
Wow... those French Rugby players really look like....Neanderthals. You should shave them to throw the opposing team off.
Pannonian
10-02-2007, 22:41
The early haul was promising, but then the Duke of Gloucester had to spoil the fun.
All of the black people I know are relatively normal people
.......
The haka (<--vid link) (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V8DX_8-uXUk) they perform, pre-game, suggests violence, but it doesn't look any worse than other team-rousers used by many professional sports.
Am I the only one who thinks the captain in that video (can't remember his name) looks like this guy?
Warning - some adult language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VclHtnoTqRA
Start at about 1:23
Papewaio
10-02-2007, 23:36
The haka has become part of the All Blacks pre match spectacle:Haka Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haka_of_the_All_Blacks)
The All Blacks themselves:All Blacks Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Blacks)
Haka is something that is part of NZ culture and heritage. The haka the All Blacks used to perform dates back to 1810. The new one however was composed just a few years ago specifically for the team. I guess it is kind of hard for people to understand when they don't really know anything about Maori culture.
There was one Newspaper article I remember from quite a few years back where the British were complaining about the haka being performed and so the article suggested the British maybe adopt something from their past, like morris dancing. :laugh4:
But seriously, there is no reason to think that they are more violent or that they are thugs, where is proof of this? Unless you want to link to that bloody stupid article about one of them hitting the other with some lady's hand bag and telling him to watch his behavior. Hardly assault or brutish behavior but the media tried to make it out like a scandal.
Just because we're from a "rugged" country doesn't mean we're apes.
:bow:
EDIT: Ah, Papewaio just beat me to it
Louis VI the Fat
10-02-2007, 23:51
I think it is all a joke, Hepcat. ~;)
Everybody loves the haka, it is one of world sports great traditions.
See you on Saturday! (Early Sunday for you?) Hope it'll be a great game. :2thumbsup:
...and please try to be gentle on us...
Crazed Rabbit
10-03-2007, 00:14
:inquisitive:
Good grief! Those rugby players are scary. More so than american football players, because you can't run away like you could a 350 lb linebacker.
CR
:laugh4:
Yeah Louis, I know you're all mostly joking but I just felt obliged to explain it. I also felt the need to point out that we weren't apes because of one English girl at my school who said living here is like living on planet of the apes and all she ever does is rant about how much better England is than NZ and I'd never realised people perceive us that way until then.
So it's not a lecture directed at anyone here.
:2thumbsup:
seireikhaan
10-03-2007, 02:52
:inquisitive:
Good grief! Those rugby players are scary. More so than american football players, because you can't run away like you could a 350 lb linebacker.
CR
:inquisitive: Since when did linebackers weigh 350 lbs? Heck, most of them don't even hit 260 lbs. And if you watch football, a lot of them are actually quite athletic. Certainly more so than your average Joe Schmoe, anyways.
Crazed Rabbit
10-03-2007, 03:38
Hyperbole=exaggeration for comic effect.
My point is that they don't run around all the time; they get loads of breaks between short bursts of speed. Yes, they are very good at what they do, but they aren't distance or endurance runners, and I do run.
CR
Wow... those French Rugby players really look like....Neanderthals.
I dunno, I think they look more the way you would expect your Total War elite units to look if you ever ran into them at a Starbucks.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/chabalmartinbureauafpgetty_2.jpg
Vangrian Guard? Or Norse Cleric?
IrishArmenian
10-03-2007, 03:50
They're pretty :daisy: violent. Amazing, but violent. Great players, all of them.
Thanks Banquo! I do not actually recall what I said, so this daisy is quite the pleasant surprise!
Haka is something that is part of NZ culture and heritage. The haka the All Blacks used to perform dates back to 1810. The new one however was composed just a few years ago specifically for the team. I guess it is kind of hard for people to understand when they don't really know anything about Maori culture.
There was one Newspaper article I remember from quite a few years back where the British were complaining about the haka being performed and so the article suggested the British maybe adopt something from their past, like morris dancing. :laugh4:
But seriously, there is no reason to think that they are more violent or that they are thugs, where is proof of this? Unless you want to link to that bloody stupid article about one of them hitting the other with some lady's hand bag and telling him to watch his behavior. Hardly assault or brutish behavior but the media tried to make it out like a scandal.
Just because we're from a "rugged" country doesn't mean we're apes.
:bow:
EDIT: Ah, Papewaio just beat me to it
And to think that what appears in Lord of the Rings must also be a kind of Haka then. The Uruk-Hai war chant before the battle of Helms Deep starts is a Maori war chant.
Strike For The South
10-03-2007, 04:11
Hyperbole=exaggeration for comic effect.
My point is that they don't run around all the time; they get loads of breaks between short bursts of speed. Yes, they are very good at what they do, but they aren't distance or endurance runners, and I do run.
CR
well that just makes you a pansy. Besides even the 350 OL guys could run you down in the fiirst 40 yards. Yea if yall were racing two miles youd win but if he just wants to catch you than youll be cuaght,
Incongruous
10-03-2007, 11:59
Pfft, the All Blacks violent?
Ok Collins is a nutter and we all know that, but I have to say that England usually puts out the biggest group of thuggish brutes in the sport.
Something I'm rather proud of. Though apparently Sheridan is a really nice guy, I mean really.
Banquo's Ghost
10-03-2007, 13:49
Ok Collins is a nutter and we all know that, but I have to say that England usually puts out the biggest group of thuggish brutes in the sport.
Yeah? Say that to a Samoan's face. ~;p
IrishArmenian
10-03-2007, 15:06
The proud descendants of the Lascaux cave people.
From the looks of it, they are the Lascaux cave people.
England's players look scary, but the All Blacks play with a visible ferocity that the English cannot match!
They play within the rules, so it's not that bad really.
ShadesPanther
10-04-2007, 01:06
Something I'm rather proud of. Though apparently Sheridan is a really nice guy, I mean really.
So he'd still be considered violent compared to the rest of the Home Nations?
They play within the rules, so it's not that bad really.
That's the thing with the Southern Hemisphere teams. They know where the "line" is and manage to stay directly ontop of it.
Incongruous
10-04-2007, 08:58
Yeah? Say that to a Samoan's face. ~;p
Oh don't worry I have. They agree and then laugh when we talk about the Lions tour:shame:
The All Blacks do not play with more ferocity, I mean most teams impress kiwis with their tenacity and most of my mates here say that the Irish and the Pumas are the hardest fighters. It's simply that they, like other s-hem teams use a more modern approach to rugby. One of skill and speed. It's not about how heavy the foreward's are or how big the tight's are. It's about how well they can make space for the back line. Something which the English forewards and coaches seem to forget.
Papewaio
10-05-2007, 07:18
Which is strange since that has been the way of the All Blacks since almost dot... one of the myths is that they are called the All Blacks because the poster that was supposed to say they play like they are All Backs was miss-spelled Blacks... a myth about the name origin not the style of play.
Incongruous
10-05-2007, 08:26
Which is strange since that has been the way of the All Blacks since almost dot... one of the myths is that they are called the All Blacks because the poster that was supposed to say they play like they are All Backs was miss-spelled Blacks... a myth about the name origin not the style of play.
Really I thought a lot of their play style, like the wandering wingers was a new form of play.
Papewaio
10-05-2007, 09:47
By wandering what do you mean?
When I played at high school wings had several roles. Sometimes you just played on your wing (left/right) or you played on the wing closest to the pack and the flankers/wings interchanged on the run or you played deep and were a secondary wing... sometimes for an entire game or on the fly as required.
rotorgun
10-05-2007, 20:46
Hmmm......no, only all the violent blacks are violent. Really!
Louis VI the Fat
10-06-2007, 04:48
nm
edit: this is why you should limit your drunken posts to the drunkards thread, kids.
Pannonian
10-07-2007, 14:33
:2thumbsup:
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