Azmogeddon
09-07-2002, 19:39
Actually first question is exactly what the specifics are for getting excommunicated. Two scenarios:
One, I attack a catholic province and begin a siege, the Pope gives the usual 2-year warning. Can I now wait out a 4-year siege without getting excommunicated?
Second, I attack a catholic province and destroy the enemy army, no siege necessary, it's now mine. In the same turn, they attack me elsewhere and I retreat to my castle, which can hold out for 6 years. I get the Pope's warning. What happens if I wait 4 years then attack to relieve the siege on my castle?
Onto the main problem, after being excommunicated basically every Catholic faction declared war on me, and naturally 50 years later I hold all of Spain and France, most of Germany and part of Italy - Germany, Italy and Sicily are reduced to 2-3 provinces each. Now once I was happy with my new holdings the Pope, ahem, met his death, and my excommunication was over.
I'm now solidly the main power of Europe, the Byzantines hold a decent amount but have lost Constantinople and everything south of it to the Egyptians. But despite massing huge armies on the borders of Italy and Germany, destroying their fleets, and several times launching assaults to kill their kings, they refuse to sign a cease-fire. I've tried moving my armies away from their borders, sending princesses, wiping out all their armies but leaving their castles, everything I can think of, but they still won't sign a cease-fire.
Not being able to easily launch crusades to the holy land because of the continuous stream of boats they build to block the mediteranian is getting annoying, and my profits are down from 10k a year to 2k because of losing trade, and I'd really like to make peace with them. If they don't make peace soon I'm just going to have to destroy them, which would be such a pity.
It's obviously in their interests to make peace, so why won't they?
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Azmo
[long-time lurker]
One, I attack a catholic province and begin a siege, the Pope gives the usual 2-year warning. Can I now wait out a 4-year siege without getting excommunicated?
Second, I attack a catholic province and destroy the enemy army, no siege necessary, it's now mine. In the same turn, they attack me elsewhere and I retreat to my castle, which can hold out for 6 years. I get the Pope's warning. What happens if I wait 4 years then attack to relieve the siege on my castle?
Onto the main problem, after being excommunicated basically every Catholic faction declared war on me, and naturally 50 years later I hold all of Spain and France, most of Germany and part of Italy - Germany, Italy and Sicily are reduced to 2-3 provinces each. Now once I was happy with my new holdings the Pope, ahem, met his death, and my excommunication was over.
I'm now solidly the main power of Europe, the Byzantines hold a decent amount but have lost Constantinople and everything south of it to the Egyptians. But despite massing huge armies on the borders of Italy and Germany, destroying their fleets, and several times launching assaults to kill their kings, they refuse to sign a cease-fire. I've tried moving my armies away from their borders, sending princesses, wiping out all their armies but leaving their castles, everything I can think of, but they still won't sign a cease-fire.
Not being able to easily launch crusades to the holy land because of the continuous stream of boats they build to block the mediteranian is getting annoying, and my profits are down from 10k a year to 2k because of losing trade, and I'd really like to make peace with them. If they don't make peace soon I'm just going to have to destroy them, which would be such a pity.
It's obviously in their interests to make peace, so why won't they?
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Azmo
[long-time lurker]