Pick Your Candidate

[Lemur]

Finally, I don't have to put all of that exhausting thought and consideration into picking a candidate for President. Thanks to this handy online quiz (http://www3.wqad.com/av2008/selectacandidate/quiz.php), which asks you about nothing but wedge issues, your candidate will be picked for you. Salvation!

Apparently I can choose from Bill Richardson, Ron Paul or Barack Obama. Now I know.

[econ21]

Dennis Kucinich - whoever he is.

I only disagree with him on immigration, apparently, and the options on that topic all seemed too anti-immigration for my tastes, so I am not sure that counts as I did not want to pick any.

Wierdly Obama and Hilary only disagreed with me on Iraq and the death penalty, which seems to imply a greater degree of agreement between them than I supposed.

What happened to Fred Thompson? He was not on the list.

[The Wizard]

Well, I'm not a Yank, but I did the test anyway. Fred Thompson's my pick, but according to this I should be gunning for Mitt Romney (followed by Jim Gilmore -- who? -- and -- ugh -- Giuliani). Thompson's all the way down, ranked seventh! Maybe I'm really mistaken here...

By the way, I didn't quite get the question about marriage. The amendment they talked about -- would it benefit or repress homosexuals? Repress, right?

[drone]

I knew I had the right man from the start: Ron Paul (followed by Giuliani and McCain).

[The Wizard]

I like the Libertarian Party, but Paul's an isolationist nutcase, not to mention a tired old man who should call it quits already. Just my two cents here, not trying to start fights (may be the wrong forum for that, yeah) ~;)

[InsaneApache]

Dennis Kucinich - whoever he is.

ditto, now that's worrying. :laugh4:

and some other non entities...

Chris Dodd.

Who are these people?

I got Rodham next. :juggle2:

Blinking 'eck you guys really 'do' extreams. :book:

[Husar]

Apparently it's Ron Paul with a score of 33.:inquisitive:

If that's 33 of 100 I guess it's good I'm not a US citizen(yet). :laugh4:

[Kagemusha]

I got Hillary,Obama and Kucinich with same amount of points as my top three,with 27 points..:dizzy2:

[Lemur]

Note that the quiz uses nothing but wedge issues (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge_issue). So you're not exactly getting a detailed or nuanced idea of the candidates. Still, it's amusing.

[Husar]

Note that the quiz uses nothing but wedge issues (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge_issue). So you're not exactly getting a detailed or nuanced idea of the candidates. Still, it's amusing.
Well, it's not like I have a set or educated opinion on every matter anyway. :laugh4:

[Xiahou]

Fred Thompson- weird, huh?

[drone]

For all you Euros getting Kucinich, I ask one question: do you really want an Essex girl as the First Lady? :laugh4:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Finally, I don't have to put all of that exhausting thought and consideration into picking a candidate for President. Thanks to this handy online quiz (http://www3.wqad.com/av2008/selectacandidate/quiz.php), which asks you about nothing but wedge issues, your candidate will be picked for you. Salvation!

Apparently I can choose from Bill Richardson, Ron Paul or Barack Obama. Now I know.


Obama and Clition are the first two on my list... Joys.... Third is Tom Tancredo,never heard of him.

[woad&fangs]

Interesting, Joe Biden got 50 points while Clinton and Obama tied at 40. Of course Hillary is manipulative, and power hungry, so regardless of what I agree with her on I would never support her. Giuliani was right behind with 39 points. Surprisingly, while I usually identify myself as a moderate libertarian, Ron Paul only got 7 points.

[AntiochusIII]

By the way, I didn't quite get the question about marriage. The amendment they talked about -- would it benefit or repress homosexuals? Repress, right?Repress. It translates into "gays can't marry."

and the options on that topic all seemed too anti-immigration for my tastes, so I am not sure that counts as I did not want to pick any.The quiz-makers seem to be fascinated with that border fence thing. Pathetic really, since of all the anti-immigration measures this is probably the most useless.

There's no "who ******* cares about the wall? But punish employers of illegal immigrants, yes" or "make the wall a monument to the Arts with mosaics and marble carvings and stuff and we can talk" so I don't think I can really answer this quiz question.

[econ21]

ditto, now that's worrying. :laugh4:

A sorry indictment of the New Labour and "New" Conservative Parties. ~:grouphug:

They should just put "ditto" on the ballot box and forget about having a British general election. :laugh4:

I mean, we did manufacture your leader and you did just write our budget. :shrug:

[The Wizard]

Repress. It translates into "gays can't marry."Good, good. I chose correctly then.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I got obama and clinton (Apparently they hold all the same positions).

[InsaneApache]

For all you Euros getting Kucinich, I ask one question: do you really want an Essex girl as the First Lady? :laugh4:

That's it. Perfect. Jade Goody gets the keys to the 'slighty chared' building on Pennsylvania Avenue. :laugh4:

[Louis VI the Fat]

Tied at 48 points for these four : Edwards, Obama, Clinton, Richardson. I knew I prefered Clinton or Obama, in that order. Never heard of Richardson.


Highest Republicans were Romney and Giuliani. I don't know Romney, but before the quiz Giuliani was my favourite Republican. Good quiz then, apparently.

[CountArach]

I don't know if you guys have seen this before, but there is a similar thing here:

http://www.vajoe.com/candidate_calculator.html

Not as well set out and done quite differently to this one, but the idea is still there. I got Kuchinich in that one.

In the one you posted I got 66 for Dodd, only disagreeing on Immigration and I got 64 with Kucinich, only disagreeing (And then slightly) on Iraq. I had Hillary, Obama and Edwards (Who I prefer out of the three top runners) tied next on 59 - all of whom I disagree with on the Death Penalty. Hunter was last on 7 - only agreed with him on Energy.

I only disagree with him on immigration, apparently, and the options on that topic all seemed too anti-immigration for my tastes, so I am not sure that counts as I did not want to pick any.
I was in the same conundrum.

[naut]

Dennis Kucinich - 56
Chris Dodd - 51
John Edwards - 46
Barack Obama - 46
Hillary Clinton - 46

Disagreed with all of them on Iraq; Obama and Clinton on Immigration and the Death Penalty.

[econ21]

The immigration question was so hostile to immigrants, it was funny. Why did they not just ask you to choose:


Option 1: Crush illegal immigrates and have them flee before you.
Option 2: Seize the possessions of illegal immigrants, crush them and have them flee before you.
Option 3: Hear the wailing of women illegal immigrants, crush them and have them flee before you.
Option 4: Embrace the wives and daughters of illegal immigrants, hear their women wail, crush them and have them flee before you.

Seriously, what was wrong with:


"Give me your tired your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

That was beautiful and also, I think, one reason why America became the greatest nation on earth. :shame:

[Crazed Rabbit]

Oh please, Econ. We had much stricter immigration laws back when that was put up. And immigration should not be a general opening of our doors to a bunch of people fleeing a crappy country to our south and costing us billions of dollars (illegals cost LA county about $1billion a year. That's one county).

Anyways, I got:
John McCain
Score: 51

Tom Tancredo
Score: 50


Duncan Hunter
Score: 43

Fred Thompson
Score: 43

Which is odd, since I would much, much rather have Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson over Tancredo or McCain. Thompson is my choice right now, edging Duncan mainly because of name recognition.

FYI, I got 8's for Edwards, Obama, and Clinton, and 3's for Dodd, Kucinich, and Gravel.

CR

[Spino]

Rudy Giuliani - 53
Mitt Romney - 43
John McCain - 42

[Xiahou]

I don't know if you guys have seen this before, but there is a similar thing here:

http://www.vajoe.com/candidate_calculator.html

Not as well set out and done quite differently to this one, but the idea is still there. I got Kuchinich in that one.
Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson (R)
90.82% match :beam:


Your Other Top Matches
Kansas Senator Sam Brownback (R) - 85.71%
Texas Representative Ron Paul (R) - 84.69%
Colorado Representative Tom Tancredo (R) - 84.69%

Middle of the Pack
Businessman John Cox (R) - 78.57%
California Representative Duncan Hunter (R) - 77.55%
Arizona Senator John McCain (R) - 75.51%
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee (R) - 72.45%
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) - 69.39%
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R) - 69.39%
Former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel (D) - 30.61%
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson (D) - 30.61%
Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D) - 24.49%
Delaware Senator Joseph Biden (D) - 23.47%

Bottom of the Barrel
Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards (D) - 18.37%
New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) - 14.29%
Connecticut Senator Christopher Dodd (D) - 13.27%
Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich (D) - 10.20%

[Louis VI the Fat]

I'm a sucker for political quizzes. The CountArach one:


:balloon2: New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) 72.31% match :balloon2:

Obama seems a bit low, coming in only as fourth Dem. Giuliani comes in as second placed Rep.
There are lots of unfamiliar presidential hopefuls in these quizzes that I don't know anything about. But the ones I've been rooting for keep coming out on top. So, if one thing, these quizzes have convinced me that I was right in my pick of candidates.
(And that I have some basic grasp of what the major candidates stand for. :jumping: )


Your Other Top Matches
Connecticut Senator Christopher Dodd (D) - 66.15%
Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards (D) - 66.15%
Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich (D) - 64.62%

Middle of the Pack
Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D) - 64.62%
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson (D) - 64.62%
Delaware Senator Joseph Biden (D) - 63.08%
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee (R) - 54.62%
Former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel (D) - 48.46%
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) - 42.31%
Texas Representative Ron Paul (R) - 39.23%
Arizona Senator John McCain (R) - 38.46%
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R) - 38.46%
Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson (R) - 33.08%

Bottom of the Barrel
Colorado Representative Tom Tancredo (R) - 28.46%
Businessman John Cox (R) - 21.54%
California Representative Duncan Hunter (R) - 20.00%
Kansas Senator Sam Brownback (R) - 18.46%

[Crazed Rabbit]

From CA's:

Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson (R)
96.03% match

You are number 1,043,181 to use the Candidate Calculator.



Your Other Top Matches
Kansas Senator Sam Brownback (R) - 87.30%
Colorado Representative Tom Tancredo (R) - 87.30%
Arizona Senator John McCain (R) - 82.54%

Middle of the Pack
Texas Representative Ron Paul (R) - 79.37%
California Representative Duncan Hunter (R) - 77.78%
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R) - 71.43%
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee (R) - 65.08%
Businessman John Cox (R) - 64.29%
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) - 52.38%
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson (D) - 31.75%
Delaware Senator Joseph Biden (D) - 19.05%
New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) - 15.87%
Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D) - 15.87%

Bottom of the Barrel
Former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel (D) - 12.70%
Connecticut Senator Christopher Dodd (D) - 9.52%
Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards (D) - 9.52%
Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich (D) - 6.35%

CR

[JAG]

Apparently me and Dennis Kucinich agree on all the points in that original test thing - he has no chance then ;)

Dennis Kucinich
Score: 61
Agree
Iraq
Immigration
Taxes
Stem-Cell Research
Health Care
Abortion
Social Security
Line-Item Veto
Energy
Marriage
Death Penalty
Disagree

:O

Using the other one I had...

Your Top Match
Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich (D)
95.00% match


I guess he likes agreeing with me!

[ICantSpellDawg]

my number 1 was somone i'm not too fond of, followed by McCain followed by Romney.

I'll vote Romney in this election, if he is in the runnings.

[Don Corleone]

Romney, Giuliani, Thompson

I'd switch the order of #2 & #3, but that's about right.

[English assassin]

I got Chris Dodd, whoever he may be. I had to skip a few questions I had no idea over, although come to think of it, with the US budget deficit I should have had a go at the tax one.

Hmm. Well according to what I read on his Wiki entry, Chris Dodd is pretty much A OK (other than for what seems to be an interest in accountants, or possibly more accurately their money). So, yeah, go Chris.

[Cowhead418]

I got Hunter, Thompson, and Romney as my top three. Right now my candidate is Thompson, so the results match my voting interests.

EDIT: I took the other quiz, and got Mike Huckabee as the top one, followed by John Cox and a tie between Paul, Thompson, and Tancredo.

[naut]

Isn't Thompson that conservative nutcase? Or is that Romney?

[Kralizec]

I got Guiliani on top with 45.
Then Clinton, Obama, Edwards and Kucinich, all with 34

Entirely below where Thomspon, Tancredo, one Sam Brownback with 11 points each.

Except the fact that Giuliani's on top (with only 45, though) my list seems a little odd. I suppose it's because I'm right leaning, but not socially conservative.

[Boyar Son]

john edwards

followed by

hillary clinton

[woad&fangs]

john edwards

followed by

hillary clinton
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: I did not see that one coming:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

[CountArach]

john edwards

followed by

hillary clinton
Wow, the complete opposite side of politics I thought you followed.

[naut]

K COSSACK I now pronounce you a honorary euroweenie.

[Strike For The South]

ugh if Ron Pual doesnt win Im moving to France

[Lemur]

Aparently he just won the Nevada straw poll (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/10/14/410525.aspx). This is a good thing.

[Strike For The South]

I dont much care for Neveda

[Lemur]

What, now you despise Nevada and Ohio?

[Strike For The South]

its really the entire midwest, I would like to strangle the accent out of those people

"Im from minnneeeeesssssottttttttttttaaaaaaaa"

"Im abouttoputabulletinyourhead":wall:

[Xiahou]

Aparently he just won the Nevada straw poll (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/10/14/410525.aspx). This is a good thing.
It's an irrelevant thing. No one should doubt that Ron Paul has a small core of deeply devoted followers- enough to win many unknown straw polls like this. However, in scientific polling, Paul rarely gets more than a blip.

Paul has some good ideas (as well as some really terrible ideas), but I have no doubt that Paul would be an ineffectual disaster as president.

[Lemur]

I'm still freaking out from the news that Nevada is now part of the Midwest. When did that happen? Why didn't Wisconsin get the memo?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Lemur, you've never seen a proper map of Texas is all. In their efforts to put in enough detail about the center of the meaningful universe (Texas) some other bits were a little distorted -- similar to the thing with Greenland covering half the map in the old flat projections. So, you see, Strike's labeling is good enough from a Texan perspective. :cheesy:

BTW

3-way for Hunter, Tancredo and Thompson for me at 42 each. McCain a 40. None of them agree with me on energy policy, apparently.

[ICantSpellDawg]

I've heard Paul speak. He's a freakin' lunatic. I do like that he's from Texas, though.

ROMNEY IS A WINNER

[Louis VI the Fat]

ugh if Ron Pual doesnt win Im moving to FranceAbout time you did and left these geography fascists behind you. Did you notice how only the preppy North Easterners criticised you? From their perspective, Nevada isn't in the Midwest and thus they felt fit to reprimand you for it.

Whereas, of course, from a Texan point of view Nevada is close to the centre of America - Texas - but slightly to the west of it. Hence Mid-west. :yes:

[Lemur]

Far be it from me to correct a Texan. If a member of the lone star state declares, say, California to be in the Deep South, who am I to contradict? I'm just a cheese-eating snow-state northerner, after all.

Good news, Strike. Your man Paul is actually being shown on some of the polls now. I've no idea what his candidacy will amount to, but it should be interesting to see.


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[woad&fangs]

What does everyone see in Romney?

[drone]

Paul pulled in $5 million in 3rd quarter contributions, almost as much as McCain. Other candidates are starting to get worried, he may pull support away from them in crucial states. He is rising, but unlikely to challenge Hizzoner or Romney unless something really weird happens.

[seireikhaan]

I actually think Paul has a shot at winning the Republican ticket, though he's not the favorite right now. Evidently, he's the only candidate in the field that pulled in more donations in the 3rd quarter than the 2nd quarter, indicating pretty strong growth there. Furthermore, none of the republican candidates besides him are exactly stellar runaways.

As for the surveys:

1st survey: top candidate is Dennis Kusinich with 43. Lowest was a tie between Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson, both of whom I got a score of 1 with.

2nd survey: a tie between Kusinich and Mike Gravel at 66.13%. Lowest was John McCain at .35%.

Now I know for sure why I get along with CR so well.~;p

[Strike For The South]

Its times like these I turn to Samuel 18-25

[Boyar Son]

"john edwards

followed by

hillary clinton"

what could go wrong?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Now I know for sure why I get along with CR so well.~;p

Gah?! Kucinich?! You couldn't even have picked one of the less inane democrats. ~;p

And yes, I do have a bit of a personal grudge against Kucinich since he did his socialist best to screw up Cleveland when he was mayor (gee, seeing as he's incompetent as a mayor, and has survived in politics only by being a legislator, how could he not be an abysmal president?)

I'd be all for Paul if he tempered a few of his wackier ideas (return to the gold standard! :dizzy2: ) and wasn't so darn isolationist. Apparently he recently attended a gun rights conference where he was surrounded by private citizens openly carrying firearms and acted like it was any other speech location. Can you see any other candidate doing that?

CR

[naut]

What does everyone see in Romney?
I know, from what I've read/seen, he's a complete scumbag.

[woad&fangs]

I know, from what I've read/seen, he's a complete scumbag.
To me he seems like the Republican version of Hillary. It disgusts me that those two are leading in the poles. The worst part is that I'm 3 months too young to vote in the next election. I'm thinking of applying to at least one foreign college because I can't stand the thought of living in a country run by either of those two. *peeks at Lemur's most recent thread* New Zealand is looking like a pretty nice alternative to the US.~:flirt:

[seireikhaan]

Gah?! Kucinich?! You couldn't even have picked one of the less inane democrats. ~;p

And yes, I do have a bit of a personal grudge against Kucinich since he did his socialist best to screw up Cleveland when he was mayor (gee, seeing as he's incompetent as a mayor, and has survived in politics only by being a legislator, how could he not be an abysmal president?)

I'd be all for Paul if he tempered a few of his wackier ideas (return to the gold standard! :dizzy2: ) and wasn't so darn isolationist. Apparently he recently attended a gun rights conference where he was surrounded by private citizens openly carrying firearms and acted like it was any other speech location. Can you see any other candidate doing that?

CR
Heh, I still won't be voting for him just because some online survey with rather limited question options says I should. Personally, I think Paul is the best of the Republicans, just as long as the rest of the white house keeps a bit of a limit on some of his more eccentric ideas, as you stated earlier. Similarly, I won't vote for Gravel, although the guy can be a riot at times during his speeches. If I had to vote for someone right now, I'd probably pick...meh, I can't decide yet, I still don't particularly like any of the candidates, even the dems. Obama's foreign policy is subpar at best, Hilary's too closely tied to Bill for my tastes, Edwards is, well, just a no. And quite frankly, to be realistic, none of the other candidates even have a chance. Similarly, I have issues with the Republicans as well, especially Romney and Thompson, mostly due to idealogical conflictions, and Romney's dispicable "Republicans should act like Republicans" ad. Paul's about the only republican I would support.

[Devastatin Dave]

Duncan Hunter is my guy appearantly.... But I'm still voting for either Fred or Romney even if he thinks he's going to repopulate alien worlds with a bunch of hot space chicks one day.:laugh4:

[Husar]

For those who don't check The Onion regularly. (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/poll_bullshit_is_most_important) :2thumbsup:

Contains un-orgish language. ~;)