Roman Provincial Gov

[kemozz]

so what are the provinces that allow your governer to recieve the Provincial Governor trait. the readme mentions sicily are there any others?

[johnhughthom]

I believe one of the team members said there would be governors available for the empire as it was in Caesar's time, excluding Italy.

[Zaknafien]

Hm, off the top of my head theres:

Corsica et Sardinia
Sicilia
Africa Vetus
Africa Nova
Cyrenacia
Hispania Ulterior
Hispania Interior
Gallia Comata
Gaul this side of the Alps
Gaul further side of the Alps
Illyricum
Macedonia
Achaea
Asia
Cicilia
Judea
Aegyptus

might be a couple others too, I cant remember which all made it in.

In the future there will be others like Noricum, Cappadocia, etc.

[kemozz]

wow thats amazing. but could you be a bit specific. for example if u want to be governer of sicily then u'll have to send your propraetor, proconsular, rector to syracuse. sardina et corsica i think he has to go to karali? what about the other provinces? i think this should be included in the faq otherwise the player won't know where to go.

[Ice]

wow thats amazing. but could you be a bit specific. for example if u want to be governer of sicily then u'll have to send your propraetor, proconsular, rector to syracuse. sardina et corsica i think he has to go to karali? what about the other provinces? i think this should be included in the faq otherwise the player won't know where to go.

Off the topic of my head, I remember you need the 3 cities in Sicily for governor of Sicily.

You need Corsica and Sardinia for another one. That's about all I remember.

[kemozz]

thanks for the reply ice. i loved playing the romans before and now i am just crazy about them. but figuring out what provinces give what traits is going to be a prob. i've also noticed that you get an axcillary for the province that you govern but sometimes the character has 8 axcillaries stacked so u'll probably have to give away some of those axc to other characters. would it be a big problem to limit the number of axc a character could get to maybe lets say 6. that way u'll have two spare axc to use for the provinces. its just a suggestion i know its not very practical specially that the other factions don't get province specifec axc, but its just a suggestion.

well if anyone has any info about what other provinces give the provincial governer traits please post here. so far i've figured out syracuse (sicily), karali (corsica and sardina), carthage (old africa) and am still looking for the others :)

cheers

[Zaknafien]

I cant rememeber the names of all the provinces but if you look at a map of the roman republic its pretty easy to tell what territories you need to constitute a provincia.

[kemozz]

O'right, so far i've figured out the following provinces:

Corsica et Sardinia - karali
Sicilia - syracuse
Africa Vetus - carthage
Africa Nova - ?
Cyrenacia - ?
Hispania Ulterior- ?
Hispania Interior-?
Gallia Comata -?
Gaul this side of the Alps - ?
Gaul further side of the Alps - tolosa
Illyricum - ?
Macedonia - ?
Achaea- ?
Asia - ?
Cicilia - ?
Judea - ?
Aegyptus- ?

[kemozz]

An update to those of you that are interested in this:

Corsica et Sardinia - karali
Sicilia - syracuse
Africa Vetus - carthage
Africa Nova - ?
Cyrenacia - ?
Hispania Ulterior- Scum(something) its in spain to the top right corner of gades
Hispania Interior-?
Gallia Comata -?
Gaul this side of the Alps - ?
Gaul further side of the Alps - tolosa
Illyricum - ?
Macedonia - Pella
Achaea- ?
Asia - ?
Cicilia - ?
Judea - ?
Aegyptus- ?

[Treverer]

Hello there,

I noted that one has to have at least level 3 gov in the respective provinces. In my game, Syrakuse had a gov4, the other ones gov2 and gov3, nothing happened ... I waited. As I waited further, 'Corsica et Sardinia' happened (gov2 & gov3). Now I changed Syrakuse to gov2, et voilà: 'Sicilia' happened to me.

Yours,
Treverer

[Zaknafien]

well yeah, obviously. You cant have a province without a province, you know.

[kemozz]

O'right i just got this off wikipedia, for those of you playing the romans and are into role playing this might be of some use :D

List of Republican provinces:
241 BC Sicilia, propraetorial province (EB Capital Syracuse)
231 BC Corsica et Sardinia, propraetorial province (EB Capital Karali)
197 BC Hispania Citerior, propraetorial provinces
197 BC Hispania Ulterior, propraetorial provinces (EB Capital Scum....)
167 BC Illyricum, propraetorial province
146 BC Macedonia-Achaea, propraetorial province (EB Capital Pella)
146 BC Africa proconsularis, proconsular province (EB Capital Carthage)
129 BC Asia, proconsular province
120 BC Gallia Transalpina, propraetorial province (EB Capital Tolosa)
81 BC Gallia Cisalpina, propraetorial province
74 BC Bithynia, propraetorial province
74 BC Cyrenaica et Creta, propraetorial province
64 BC Cilicia et Cyprus, propraetorial province
64 BC Syria, propraetorial province
30 BC Aegyptus, propraetorial province, special governor Praefectus Aegypti
29 BC Moesia, propraetorial province

anybody else please try to fill in the blanks those are the ones i've been able to confirm. All settlements had type II govermnet. would anybody from the EB team confirm if the governor of egypt gets this special title?

[kemozz]

I had to do some digging but i finally figured it out. In order to acquire the provincial governer ancillary here are the provinces that you need to conquer:

Governor of Sicily
Provinces: Syrakousai*, Messana*, Lilibeo
Governor of Corsica and Sardinia
Provinces: Alalia*, Karali*
Governor of Africa Vetus
Provinces: Kart-Hadast*, Adrumeto*, Atiqa
Governor of Gallia Cisalpina
Provinces: Patavium*, Bononia*, Segesta*
Governor of Hispania Citerior
Provinces: Emporion*, Mastia*, Arse*
Governor of Hispania Ulterior
Provinces: Baikor*, Sucum-Murgi*, Gader*
Governor of Gallia Narbonensis
Province: Massalia*, Tolosa*
Governor of Macedonia
Provinces: Pella*, Demetrias*, Thermon*, Ambrakia*
Governor of Asia
Provinces: Pergamon*, Sardis*, Halikarnassos*
Governor of Achaea
Provinces: Athenai*, Korinthos*, Sparte*
Governor of Bithynia
Provines: Nikaia*, Amaseia*, Sinope*
Governor of Africa Nova
Provinces: Lepki*, Kirtan*, Ippone
Governor of Syria
Provinces: Antiocheia*, Sidon*, Damaskos*
Governor of Judaea
Provinces: Hierosolyma*
Governor of Gallia Comata
Provinces: Viennos*, Burdigala, Gergovia
Governor of Cyrenacia
Provinces: Kyrene*, Augila*, Ammonion, Paraitonion*

*A character ending a turn in these settlements should acquire the governer ancillary

[kemozz]

These are working fine:
Governor of Sicily
Governor of Corsica and Sardinia
Governor of Africa Vetus
Governor of Hispania Citerior
Governor of Hispania Ulterior
Governor of Gallia Narbonensis
Governor of Macedonia
Governor of Achaea
Governor of Asia

This isn't working:
Governor of Gallia Cisalpina

Those i haven't had the chance to acquire:
Governor of Bithynia
Governor of Africa Nova
Governor of Syria
Governor of Judaea
Governor of Gallia Comata
Governor of Cyrenacia

[kemozz]

hi guys sorry to keep bring this up again but i just love the prov gov additon in this edition of EB but was any one able to get the ancillary for:

1. Governor of Achaea
2. Governor of Gallia Cisalpina

in your romani campaign?

thanks

[Barrabas]

Gallia Cisaplina is working. You receive the title in Bononia, I believe.

[Lucasiewicz]

How sure are that that list is complete? Have you looked trough some files that EB has changed?

[Zaknafien]

looks complete to me. others may be added in 1.1 or may just wait for EBII.

[Lucasiewicz]

What do these ancillaries actually do? Do they enlarge the chance of getting certain traits?

[Zaknafien]

the ancilliary is the trigger which grants your character the 'prconsul' 'propraetor' or 'rector' trait, depending on his rank. These traits grant benefits to governing the province while the governor remains within his province.

[kemozz]

i got the information from the export_descr_ancillaries text file located in the EB folder. it should be complete.

thanks for the insight Barrabas, technically you should be able to recieve the governor of Gallia Cisalpina in either Patavium, Bononia or Segesta i was unsuccessful in acquiring the trait in my current campaign. i'll try to give it another shot today. i'am also having the same problem with the governor of Achaea. anyways, the provincial governor is a great addition something that i used to roleplay on my own and i am extremly delighted that the EB team included this feature. it makes the experience 100% genuine

cheers

[kemozz]

for some reason some of these ancillaries are easier to get than others, i think it should be straight forward so here is my question. to acquire the prov governor trait these are the conditions:

Trigger acquire_Governor_of_Sicily_Syrakousai
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition FactionType seleucid
and EndedInSettlement
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and IsGeneral
and SettlementName Syrakousai
and I_SettlementOwner Messana = seleucid
and I_SettlementOwner Lilibeo = seleucid
and SettlementBuildingExists > gov4
and SettlementBuildingExists < govparthian
and Attribute Electability < 11
and not FactionwideAncillaryExists Governor_of_Sicily

AcquireAncillary Governor_of_Sicily Chance 100
Affects NumAncillariesAcquired 1 Chance 100

what are:
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100 and
and Attribute Electability < 11

cuz it sure does take a lot of time to get the Governor of Asia and Governor of Achaea. it took only a few turns to get the Governor of Sicily.

[Lucasiewicz]

what are:
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100 and
and Attribute Electability < 11
RemainingMPPercentage = remaining Movement Points Percentage. This is 100% if the character has not moved at all during the last turn.

[beatoangelico]

Yesterday I gained my first Provincia ancillary in a quite odd way: after conquering Lilibeo I installed the usual regional pacification thingy so in Sicily I had a type 5 gov in Lilibeo, a type 4 in Syracuse and a type 3 in Messana. I thought that for gaining the ancillary at least a type 3 in evey city of the province was needed, but the next turn the governor in Messana got the ancillary and then the train. This is working as intended or a bug?

[Pharnakes]

Type 5 gov?

Whats that?:inquisitive:

[beatoangelico]

Type 5 gov?

Whats that?:inquisitive:

Regional Pacification aka Provisional Military Government :candle:

[blacksnail]

Just to clarify here, the EB team does not call the Regional Pacification a "type 5 government." It has come into use in the forums but not in any official sense. IIRC it was distinguished this way on the EB building map as shorthand to refer to that, but it's not supposed to represent a legitimate form of government beyond a temporary military crackdown and imposition of order after conquest.