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ZinedineZidane
10-17-2007, 03:07
is it possible for the romans to destroy their mic thingy and put an allied state and get the samnite cavalry and samnite heavy infantry? i remember u couldnt in 0.81 but can someone explain why the romans dont getta use the samnites if they dont?=(
Parkev
10-17-2007, 06:28
Maybe it represents the supression of Samite national pride or something, trying to keep them in line. I'm sure someone who know will shed some light.
MarcusAureliusAntoninus
10-17-2007, 07:25
Samnites are in the Factional MIC not the Regional MIC for the Romans. The reason being that if the region is producing Legionaries (in the Marian Era) the Samnite must have switched fighting styles.
konny
10-17-2007, 11:41
You can have from your factional MICs

Only Camillan Time:

Milites Samnitici (attack 10 / defense 21)

Camillan and Polybian Periode:

Pedites Extraordinarii (attack 10 / defense 24!)
Hastati Samnitici (attack 14 / defense 20)
and the Equites Campanici (attack 8 /defense 23)

plus of course the prohibitive expensive Equites Extraordinarii.

But you have a gab, because Rome is one of the few factions that cannot raise Leuce Epos, Germanic Ridnaz and Thrakian Hippeis from regional MICs. That is because you get similar units from factional MICs, but only after Marius. So if you conquer those lands in Polybian times you are missing something.
ZinedineZidane
10-17-2007, 20:39
so basically, that means in the camillian and polybian reforms, if i want more then just the samnite hastatis[spearmen] i gotta build an allied state to get their cavalry?
Sdragon
10-18-2007, 06:23
From what I'm aware, there is no samnite cavalry in EB.
konny
10-18-2007, 10:46
so basically, that means in the camillian and polybian reforms, if i want more then just the samnite hastatis[spearmen] i gotta build an allied state to get their cavalry?

No, you don't get factional units out of regional MICs. If you build a Gov. IV in Capua you'll end up with Akontistai and Toxotai.
Helgi
10-18-2007, 14:28
No, you don't get factional units out of regional MICs. If you build a Gov. IV in Capua you'll end up with Akontistai and Toxotai.

What happens if you build Gov. III, II or I in Capua? I don't mind the Toxotai but don't care to much for the Akontistai.
konny
10-18-2007, 14:47
What happens if you build Gov. III, II or I in Capua? I don't mind the Toxotai but don't care to much for the Akontistai.


I must apologize: without Gov I you can't raise anything in Capua, save for the merc. generals.