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matko
10-27-2007, 18:15
I'M PROUD TO PRESENT YOU:
TSARDOMS: TOTAL WAR - FIRST PREVIEW

https://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3357/finalwebdi8.png

Factions in v1.00

Roman Catholic Christians
Kingdom of Hungary
Kingdom of Naples
Republic of Venice

Orthodox Christians
Tsardom of Serbia
Tsardom of Bulgaria
Byzantine Empire
Principality of Wallachia

Muslims
Ottoman Empire

Krstjani
Banate of Bosnia

The following factions will be added in later mod versions: Duchy of Athens, Knights of Rhodes (Knights of St.John), Archduchy of Austria (the House of Hapsburg), Karamanid Emirate


Map

The map includes part of Italy, Balkans and Asia Minor and it will contain about hundred regions which will allow us to represent the area in a realistic fashion.
https://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1887/mapa1pe3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Flags and faction symbols

Tsardoms: Total War, in its final version, will include over 100 totally new flags and coats of arms.
We take heraldry very seriously, so we decided to make a reconstruction of all primary sources made known to us. Here you can see results in some examples (made by matko and phoenix):
https://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9017/copyofgrbovirekonstrukcgf6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6669/medieval220071020172810cu1.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
The King of Hungary, The Ban of Bosnia, The Roman Emperor

Here you can see 4 randomly selected faction symbols [I](by Ave_Serbia):
https://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7633/coatsofarmsvi6.png (https://imageshack.us)
Principality of Wallachia, The Empire of Romans, Knights of Rhodes, The Republic of Venice



Tsardom of Serbia: Units Part I
( all models and skins by phoenix[illusion] - except for the skins on horses )

"At first we were confused. The East thought that we were West, while the West considered us to be East. Some of us misunderstood our place in the clash of currents, so they cried that we belong to neither side- and others that we belong exclusively to one side or the other. But I tell you, Irenaeus, we are doomed by fate to be the East in the West and the West in the East, to acknowledge only heavenly Jerusalem beyond us, and here on earth--no one." - St. Sava (of Serbia) to Irenaeus, 13th century

Although Serbia has long been in the shadow of more powerful rivals in the Balkans like Byzantium, Hungary and Bulgaria, under the Nemanjic dynasty its influence and power grew significantly. In 1345, Serbia is a dominant power in the peninsula and one of the most serious contentenders, along with Ottomans, Hungarians and Venetians, for the legacy of Byzantium. The player who controls Serbia will have these units (among others) at his disposal...

Shielded Bowmen

Shielded Bowmen are the evolution of early Serbian archers. They are primarily archers, but unlike their predecessors they are armed with swords, carry shields for protection, and wear light armour. In battles they act as archers and they can fight melee but are not effective as standard infantry. They are best for weakening the enemy with a rain of arrows and for defending settlements. Historically-speaking, in feudal Serbia there was a class of people called vlasi (vlachs) who were cattle breeders. They had an obligation to provide certain number of soldiers and were archers in Serbian armies. In the famous Battle of Velbužd (1330) they inflicted great losses on Bulgarian army.

https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5696/strelciug01qs9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

https://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1859/strelciug02ea7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1859/strelciug02ea7.279bd1d16a.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=504&i=strelciug02ea7.jpg)

Upgraded Shielded Bowmen

https://img103.imageshack.us/img103/7833/strelciug11yo5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9082/strelciug17jz9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9082/strelciug17jz9.2b5e449b6d.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=518&i=strelciug17jz9.jpg)

Heavy Infantry

Historically, there were free people in high feudalism in Serbia who weren’t meropsi (peasants), but neither had they income enough to buy horses and expensive cavalry equipment (like vlastela). Because of that they became infantry (ordinary called vojnici) and formed a class called vlastelcici, the lowest ranked nobility. These soldiers are covered with mail, have a round shield and are armed with a sword. The unit can be upgraded with better armour and then the soldiers will wear scale and lamellar armour (like on these pictures).

https://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7458/teskapjesadijaug11qa4.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1734/teskapjesadijaug12ce9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Serbian Speramen

Historically, there were free people in high feudalism in Serbia who weren’t meropsi (peasants), but neither had they enough incomes to buy horses and expensive cavalry equipment (like vlastela). Because of that they became infantry (ordinary called vojnici) and formed a class which was called vlastelcici, the lowest ranked nobility. These soldiers are covered with mail, have a large round shield and are armed with a spear.

https://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6757/spearmen1sg6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

https://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8712/spearmen3xw4.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Horsearchers

Serbian Horsearchers are light missile cavalrymen drawn from various nations popular known as Turcopoles. These cavalrymen are armed with bows and arrows and in close combat they use swords and sabres. For protection they use smaller shields and light armour which allow them higher maneuverability. Historically, they were mercenaries hired from Cumans, Turks, Alans and Tatars and were heavily hired in time of King Milutin (1282-1321). He used them mostly in several civil wars with his brother Dragutin and for special tasks when he couldn’t rely on the Serbian nobility. In 1321 he sent a unit of 2000 Cuman Turcopoles to help Andronicus II to hold his rule in Roman Empire


https://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5575/horsearchersug02ew5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5575/horsearchersug02ew5.67c1a11c1d.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=521&i=horsearchersug02ew5.jpg)

Upgraded Horsearchers

https://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6754/horsearchersug11za8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

https://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8182/horsearchersug14rr3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Auxilia Cavalry

These horseman, recruited from among the lower nobility, are armed in Byzantine fashion. Their equipment consists from a scale/lemellar loricon,
mail protection for arms and legs and an open helmet. They use spears and swords in combat.
In a beginning of the 14th century they were seen as heavy calvary but now (in the year 1345), with the development of the plate armour, they should be considered as medium cavalry. Auxilia are a support cavalry for heavier troops like Vlastela; they cannot defeat western style knights in a direct battle but their speed and manoeuverability makes them useful on the battlefield.


https://img70.imageshack.us/img70/857/auxiliaug14xf7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

https://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4493/auxiliaug15lx3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)



And it is important to mention that we have got permission from DisgruntledGoat to use his beautiful skins for Byzantine Empire.
Skins on horses that you see in pictures above are his.


Gameplay

Tsardoms will bring many changes to gameplay to reflect our aim of striking a perfect balance between gameplay and historical plausability. More realistic economy, harder and longer sieges, improved recruting system, realistic population growth, more buildings etc.


Ok, ideje/ideas, misljenja/opinions i/and kritike/criticism su/are dobrodosli/welcome...



In the next preview you can expect: more information about gameplay and the map (and some in-game screenshots), the rest of the Serbian units (the mighty Vlastela heavy cavalry, Gusars light cavalry...), and maybe even some units from the Banate of Bosnia.
Stay tuned for more information:laugh4:

PS
I want to use this opportunity to congratulate the whole team. We worked hard and now tw are proud to show the result !

Gazi Husrev-Beg
10-27-2007, 19:51
It looks very good phoenix, congratz to your team. Textures look very cool, keep it up. For now they look awsome, as mod progresses you can add more difference to individual soldiers in units. Its just eye candy, but makes huge difference...anyway, awsome work.


"At first we were confused. The East thought that we were West, while the West considered us to be East. Some of us misunderstood our place in the clash of currents, so they cried that we belong to neither side- and others that we belong exclusively to one side or the other. But I tell you, Irenaeus, we are doomed by fate to be the East in the West and the West in the East, to acknowledge only heavenly Jerusalem beyond us, and here on earth--no one." - St. Sava (of Serbia) to Irenaeus, 13th century

I enjoyed this...how true, how true indeed.

I liked that you will have a lot of heraldry. I wondered have you thought of implementing something like mod Blood, Broads, & Bastards? I think something like that would be kickass.

PS! Ovo je isti comment ko sa twcenter.net, samo sam paste and copy :)

Vla_86
10-27-2007, 21:28
This is really great guys..You did a fine job.I would just like to say,you should consider adding crossbows into Serbian army..Keep on with the good work:smash: This is gonna be the best mod :yes:

IrishArmenian
10-28-2007, 05:46
What does Krstjani mean?
I love these new units! Especially the Horse Archers and the Auxilia Cavalrymen.

Dreadking
10-28-2007, 05:50
This is awesome! Can't wait to see more work on this mod. Keep it up guys :yes:

Tsar
10-28-2007, 06:11
What does Krstjani mean?
I love these new units! Especially the Horse Archers and the Auxilia Cavalrymen.
The Bosnian Church (crkva bosanska, ecclesia bosniensis) is historically thought to be an indigenous branch of the Bogomils that existed in Bosnia during the Middle Ages. Adherents of the church called themselves simply Krstjani ("Christians"). The church no longer exists,

matko
10-28-2007, 10:24
What does Krstjani mean?
I love these new units! Especially the Horse Archers and the Auxilia Cavalrymen.

and Krstjeni were considered to be heretics from booth Catholic and Orthodox church. Hungary called several small crusades to drive them out of Bosnia. Actually is not entirely clear were they heretic in dogmatic way. But it seems that they had connections with Catharism and Patarinism from northern Italy. That implies some dualistic teachings in Bosnian church.

The_Baron
10-28-2007, 13:00
Wow, this looks like it's really coming together, which is good to see. Keep us posted, and keep up the great work! :2thumbsup:


-Max

Vazul's Ghost
11-02-2007, 16:54
KWOH!!! That preview made me moist... IN MY EYES!!!!:clown:

This mod really looks great, what a wonderful treat of previews for my first mod progress checkup since returning from three weeks in Japan!!! I was worried i would come back to another dead mod but this seems more alive then ever... WONDERFUL!:beam:

A couple of questions concerning heraldry... I noticed you chose the Angevin Hungarian heraldry as a faction symbol and as the banner of the king of Hungary. Although I apprrove of your choice as a banner of Hungary, I believe it would be more appropriate to use the tradional Arpad stripes on left, cross on hills on right system as a faction symbol, as the Angevin mixture was only used in the early reign of the Angevin kings in an attempt to assert their authority. During the reign of Lajos the Great (Louis the First) (1342 - 1382) the crest with stripes and cross appeared frequently in wood cuts and tapestries, and continues to appear through to the reign of Ulazslo the first (1440 -1444). During the reign of Mathias Corvinus the coat of arms depicting the Arpad crown as a crest with the corss and stripes on the shield was officially used, with a combination of his own family crest: a crow, and the hungarian and bohemian crests being employed as a royal seal and banner. So, The Angevin crest would be appropriate for a King's banner, while the (due to the more frewuent occurence of the hungarian as a opposed to the sporatic appearance of the angevin coat of arms) Stripes & Cross should be used as the faction's symbol.

Speaking of Mathias Corvinus (sorry if this is off topic for this thread), are you going to factor in the emergence of the hunyadi family against the turks in the mod, and if you do will you give them to the Wallachian faction or the Hungarian faction?

Milos98
11-02-2007, 17:40
KWOH!!! That preview made me moist... IN MY EYES!!!!

This mod really looks great, what a wonderful treat of previews for my first mod progress checkup since returning from three weeks in Japan!!! I was worried i would come back to another dead mod but this seems more alive then ever... WONDERFUL!

This mod cant die, its dev team is immortal :)
HOWGH!

Sarmatian
11-02-2007, 19:56
A couple of questions concerning heraldry... I noticed you chose the Angevin Hungarian heraldry as a faction symbol and as the banner of the king of Hungary. Although I apprrove of your choice as a banner of Hungary, I believe it would be more appropriate to use the tradional Arpad stripes on left, cross on hills on right system as a faction symbol, as the Angevin mixture was only used in the early reign of the Angevin kings in an attempt to assert their authority. During the reign of Lajos the Great (Louis the First) (1342 - 1382) the crest with stripes and cross appeared frequently in wood cuts and tapestries, and continues to appear through to the reign of Ulazslo the first (1440 -1444). During the reign of Mathias Corvinus the coat of arms depicting the Arpad crown as a crest with the corss and stripes on the shield was officially used, with a combination of his own family crest: a crow, and the hungarian and bohemian crests being employed as a royal seal and banner. So, The Angevin crest would be appropriate for a King's banner, while the (due to the more frewuent occurence of the hungarian as a opposed to the sporatic appearance of the angevin coat of arms) Stripes & Cross should be used as the faction's symbol.

Speaking of Mathias Corvinus (sorry if this is off topic for this thread), are you going to factor in the emergence of the hunyadi family against the turks in the mod, and if you do will you give them to the Wallachian faction or the Hungarian faction?

Considering the first part, you will have to wait for Matko, our expert for Hungary and heraldry.

Considering Hunyadi, we don't plan that much ahead. First we want to finish units and map, then we will do buildings, recruitment and economy. After that we need to test everything, balance it, and we will se how much scripting we're gonna use.

Personaly, I'm against heavy scripting. For example, we could see Byzantium absorbed by Bulgaria which continued to fight the ottomans and in that case Hunyadi appearance would be totaly needless.

matko
11-04-2007, 13:05
thanks for the kind words.



A couple of questions concerning heraldry... I noticed you chose the Angevin Hungarian heraldry as a faction symbol and as the banner of the king of Hungary. Although I apprrove of your choice as a banner of Hungary, I believe it would be more appropriate to use the tradional Arpad stripes on left, cross on hills on right system as a faction symbol, as the Angevin mixture was only used in the early reign of the Angevin kings in an attempt to assert their authority. During the reign of Lajos the Great (Louis the First) (1342 - 1382) the crest with stripes and cross appeared frequently in wood cuts and tapestries, and continues to appear through to the reign of Ulazslo the first (1440 -1444). During the reign of Mathias Corvinus the coat of arms depicting the Arpad crown as a crest with the corss and stripes on the shield was officially used, with a combination of his own family crest: a crow, and the hungarian and bohemian crests being employed as a royal seal and banner. So, The Angevin crest would be appropriate for a King's banner, while the (due to the more frewuent occurence of the hungarian as a opposed to the sporatic appearance of the angevin coat of arms) Stripes & Cross should be used as the faction's symbol.


as you already know only one flag can be used for general and it cant be changed during the game (unless you do it manually).
but "small" xp flags are not the same all the time. later when units get upgrades additional flags appear - ant then an Hunyadi banners will appear.

politics about heraldry - we go to the reconstruction of events in exact year and thats 1345. so all "big" flags in game will have Anjou symbols on them.
we had similar problem in with Serbia since Tzar Dušan was the only one who used red eagle on gold background. And don't forget that in mtw2 you are tied to a certain dynasty. If they die out completely you lose the game. So you will simple have to lead Anjou family in their brave attempt to rule the Balkans.



Speaking of Mathias Corvinus (sorry if this is off topic for this thread), are you going to factor in the emergence of the hunyadi family against the turks in the mod, and if you do will you give them to the Wallachian faction or the Hungarian faction?

unfortunately I think that this is impossible to make because of mtw2 limitations.

Vazul's Ghost
11-04-2007, 13:44
thanks for the kind words.

Youre Welcome, well deserved!:2thumbsup:


as you already know only one flag can be used for general and it cant be changed during the game (unless you do it manually).
but "small" xp flags are not the same all the time. later when units get upgrades additional flags appear - ant then an Hunyadi banners will appear.

Cool, it will be interesting to see the occasional flag there... its good to know that you are going into that much detail.


politics about heraldry - we go to the reconstruction of events in exact year and thats 1345. so all "big" flags in game will have Anjou symbols on them.
we had similar problem in with Serbia since Tzar Dušan was the only one who used red eagle on gold background. And don't forget that in mtw2 you are tied to a certain dynasty. If they die out completely you lose the game. So you will simple have to lead Anjou family in their brave attempt to rule the Balkans.

Ok in that case I have no objection, although many Angevin kings used the Cross/Arpad hills crest as a royal signet it is still pretty accurate to have it as a faction symbol if youre going to use a dynastic factions system. in my opinion the cross & hills should still appear on banners though...


unfortunately I think that this is impossible to make because of mtw2 limitations.

Thats a shame, but if your going to use a dynastic factions system then having a Corvinian king would be technicall losing anyway... Keep up the good work! :beam:

Anarzius
11-06-2007, 17:07
...

matko
11-06-2007, 18:33
Vazul's Ghost:

on xp flags of Hungary you can find:

Angevin - fleur de lis
red-white stripes
double crosses (5x - I think thats enough)
coat of arms of noble families:
Garai
Banffy
Hunyadi
Cilli
Lackfi
Frankapan

so you will be satisfied

for pictures you will have to wait for our next preview

Digenis
11-09-2007, 16:50
Byzantine heraldry info:

http://www.heraldica.org/topics/national/byzantin.htm

Mithradates VI
11-16-2007, 06:19
I can't wait for this. Finally, a decent mod with a really interesting situation. I can't wait to take on the Venetians and the Ottomans and restore the Byzantine Empire :-D

Ronaldinho10
11-17-2007, 20:48
Hey Medieval 2 Total war is great strategy game, maybe one of the best strategy game ever include games like Stronghold and Age of empiers ,but i am very disappointed because Serbia is not on the game, and than i see that you make that patch and that patch is GREAT but can i download it and if i can where?

Nevada
11-17-2007, 20:52
keep it up!
i really missed serbia (and the others, too) in the maingame, when i play, hungary rules everything there at round 20....
that's so boring.....

I look forward to this, good work untill now

Tsar
11-17-2007, 21:24
Hey Medieval 2 Total war is great strategy game, maybe one of the best strategy game ever include games like Stronghold and Age of empiers ,but i am very disappointed because Serbia is not on the game, and than i see that you make that patch and that patch is GREAT but can i download it and if i can where?
We are working on it :smash: and when is done there will be link on this pod-forum for download

Sarmatian
11-20-2007, 12:47
Ok, boys and girls, this is just something to wet your apetite while you are waiting for the second preview. As you have seen from the first preview, we take pride in our heraldry. These flags are done, again, by Matko.

https://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3572/medieval220071108124124cy1.jpg
(Mrnjavcevic, Vojinovic, Kobilic)

https://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3197/medieval220071028220250ud6.jpg
(infantry and archers banners)

And now something totaly new! Just a hint of new structures that will be present in Tsardoms when it's finished. By names of the buildings you can conclude that economy is gonna get a huge overhaul and will be an important part of the overall strategy for domination. These buildings are work of Il_Duce and Milos98... Expect more info on the buildings in the near future...

https://img68.imageshack.us/img68/8568/previewfv2ri2.jpg

And, as always, stay tuned for more information :thumbsup2

Tsardoms: Total War team

matko
11-20-2007, 18:47
Something for our Bulgarian friends: a Bulgarian infantry banner with Sv. Ivan Rilsky and cavalry banner with St. George. Hope you like them.

https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/924/factionbannerbulgariacoop4.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

https://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7717/spearbannerbulgariacopykb8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

AND IN GAME IT LOOKS LIKE THIS:
https://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4830/medieval220071027115018vk0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
mm

jimmy spong
12-09-2007, 19:22
i like all this stuff as i can see by screenshots you got really far with this mod , good work .

like the banners too .

all in all cool

jimmy spong
12-09-2007, 19:47
when can we expect first release

Tsar
12-10-2007, 01:23
when can we expect first release

We working hard on it:book: :smash:

alien_t
12-10-2007, 12:37
Something for our Bulgarian friends: a Bulgarian infantry banner with Sv. Ivan Rilsky and cavalry banner with St. George. Hope you like them.

https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/924/factionbannerbulgariacoop4.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

https://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7717/spearbannerbulgariacopykb8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

AND IN GAME IT LOOKS LIKE THIS:
https://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4830/medieval220071027115018vk0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
mm

Very nice banners :) In our mod bulgarian banners are almost same ;)

https://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p262/alien_t/Gerbove/?action=view&current=faction_banner_BG_NEW.jpg

If you want some help write here... :shakehands:
http://www.takeforum.com/btw/viewforum.php?f=19&mforum=btw

Keep up the good work! ~:thumb:

jimmy spong
12-10-2007, 13:01
well if it is near finished , release beta i think we are all curious to know what it is gonna look like

Tsar
12-11-2007, 01:37
Very nice banners :) In our mod bulgarian banners are almost same ;)

https://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p262/alien_t/Gerbove/?action=view&current=faction_banner_BG_NEW.jpg

If you want some help write here... :shakehands:
http://www.takeforum.com/btw/viewforum.php?f=19&mforum=btw

Keep up the good work! ~:thumb:
You have some great stuff over there, I'll PM leaders of the team .:thumbsup: :thumbsup:


jimmy spong
well if it is near finished , release beta i think we are all curious to know what it is gonna look like

It's not near finished, it's big job, total coversion of game!

Sarmatian
12-11-2007, 04:54
well if it is near finished , release beta i think we are all curious to know what it is gonna look like

It's not near finished. it's still far from being finished. Serbia is almost done, but we are still doing other factions...

jimmy spong
12-11-2007, 13:45
full conversion ? whoa i thought it is gonna be you now , change script map and facts but okay then , keep the

Tiberius of the Drake
12-26-2007, 20:34
This looks amazing, keep up the good work

Tsar
12-26-2007, 23:03
We will:laugh4:

dumuzi
01-18-2008, 17:18
Your textures look very good, and you've chosen an interesting, unusual area to focus on. I look forward to seeing how this mod progresses.

Sarmatian
01-19-2008, 14:25
Thanks. It only gets better with time :)

rrandynovotny
03-15-2008, 22:44
This mod looks great! is there any more work being done on it. Most of the posts are from 2007.

Tsar
03-16-2008, 00:25
This mod looks great! is there any more work being done on it. Most of the posts are from 2007.
There are 2 new PREVIEWS

MENU PREVIEW: CoA (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=99893)

Scripting Preview - Resources and Merchants (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=99892)

and there are lots of new stuff here
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=539

Thufir64
03-28-2008, 20:42
What does Krstjani mean?
I love these new units! Especially the Horse Archers and the Auxilia Cavalrymen.

From my understanding (I might be totally wrong) the Church of Bosnia was actually a form of monasticism practiced only by the elite who ruled Bosnia, they had no parish churches, only monasteries, they did not celebrate the liturgy and held public prayer only at funerals. The great majority of Bosnian commoners were Eastern Orthodox. The Church of Bosnia was only associated with Bogomilsim after the Bogomils were driven out of Serbia, most went back to Bulgaria where they came from, though some went to Bosnia where the Bosnian rulers granted them protection.

………………………………

Just wanted to say I am very excited about this mod, excellent work so far. A mod covering the Balkans is long over due

pike master
04-02-2008, 23:36
How about the Transylvania faction? What kind of units for them?

Tsar
04-05-2008, 01:03
How about the Transylvania faction? What kind of units for them?
We don't have Transylvania faction but we will have Principality of Moldova - Teara Moldovei and Principality of Wallachia - Teara Rumaneasca:crown: . Units are still WIP:book:
:thumbsup:

The historian
04-06-2008, 14:35
Sounds very interesting if i may correct you it's Tara not Teara:2thumbsup:

Sarmatian
04-07-2008, 11:24
As far as I know both are good. Check out our other forum, the link is in one of the posts on this page. You'll find much more goodies there...

tooz
05-07-2008, 02:01
Looks real good--great theme and artwork. Any updates?:yes:

Tsar
05-08-2008, 23:21
Looks real good--great theme and artwork. Any updates?:yes:
more info here
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=539

Mesina2
11-28-2009, 21:50
Why is there no Croatia and Bosnia?!
If there is no Croatia and Bosnia then this mod is pile of :furious3:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ceda012
07-14-2010, 06:04
Keep up the good work, I hope you make this MOD soon. Kant wait to play with Stefan Dusan ...ooooo mama, I am waithing this for a long time...Please DO NOT GIVE UP!

Salute, pozdrav i srećno

CarDusan1
07-12-2013, 14:15
When will you relese this mod?
(cant wait this mod is great)