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CountArach
10-31-2007, 21:25
I just noticed that the type of member that someone is has been slightly changed and put below the avatar. Congrats Tosa, this looks much better. More pleasing to the eye... :2thumbsup:

UltraWar
10-31-2007, 21:38
I just noticed that the type of member that someone is has been slightly changed and put below the avatar. Congrats Tosa, this looks much better. More pleasing to the eye... :2thumbsup:
This will be very useful indeed.:whip:

GeneralHankerchief
10-31-2007, 21:38
I dunno, I kind of liked the old way better.

Is there any way we could get rid of that line break between the custom user title and the avatar?

TosaInu
10-31-2007, 22:52
I just noticed that the type of member that someone is has been slightly changed and put below the avatar. Congrats Tosa, this looks much better. More pleasing to the eye... :2thumbsup:

I was playing with the settings a bit and it stuck me it was put in one block of text. That's not how I recalled it was. It depends which settings were used and some code moved up somewhere/time?

Ran into another glitch that's here for months too. :embarassed:


I guess the linebreak can be removed, will check.


Users who have broadband enabled, it's tied with that atm, can see a mirror effect below the avatar. I thought this to be some sort of glossy thing to 'enhance' images. Not sure this effect is worth to be kept.

Mouzafphaerre
11-01-2007, 01:54
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It looks cool. ~:) Keep it, if I have a I say.
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Omanes Alexandrapolites
11-01-2007, 09:15
I'm sorry to disagree, yet I find the new view rather cramped and disorganised compared to the older version. If its possible, I would much prefer its restoration or to have the choice of which view I would want to see.

pevergreen
11-01-2007, 10:30
Agree with Omanes.

I like to make sure what type of member people are sometimes :tongue:

Charge
11-01-2007, 16:40
Agree with Omanes.

I like to make sure what type of member people are sometimes :tongue:


the type of member that someone is has been slightly changed and put below the avatar. ...

Mouzafphaerre
11-01-2007, 16:56
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It looks cool. ~:) Keep it, if I have a I say.
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I mean the reflection. The other thing, I'm indifferent towards. :shrug:
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Omanes Alexandrapolites
11-01-2007, 17:34
I dislike the existing space even more. May I request its the restoration to former beauty - I felt more relaxed and comfortable with the classical layout.

If we have to keep it though, could we place a space between the custom user title and the avatar. In addition, could we also have a space between the avatar and the user group name. This would remove my primary issue with the new looks existence. As I have said, restoration of the old layout would be preferable, but I'm willing to settle for a compromise for now.

I've kept quiet about this for while now, but I do feel that I ought to mention a few issues I have with the .Org layout in general.

My primary problem is with the location of the "favourites" function (whose image I am using AdBlock+ to hide). It adds bulk to the bar which is something I find rather unattractive.

In my opinion, a more ideal solution would be to have the favourites icon next to the "Report Post" button. To ensure continuity, it would be better if it were the same size as the buttons on that row (21px by 17px). A star, comparable to the IE 5, 6 and 7 icon, probably would be the best option for this.

Another thing I want to bring to your notice is the lack of a user group being shown for those who are clan managers (for example InsaneApache or Puzz3D). May I suggest that this works like those who have extra PM space - they retain a normal title and remain part of the Junior Member/Member/Senior Member system. An italic title could also apply to those who are banned so they are more easily distinguishable.

Another item I wish to bring to your notice, is that selecting "No Icon" when posting actually provides an icon anyhow. On the R:TW skin, this is a fairly generic post icon. On other skins, its a smiley face. For tidiness, and continuity, may I suggest that the "no icon" is replaced by either no icon, or by the "post" icon.

In addition, may I request more detailed descriptions for the Frontroom and Backroom, hopefully to enable easier differentiation between the two.

Also forum wise, it possibly would be a good idea to move the E:TW announcement threads in the EH into the E:TW forum itself - it seems more logical to place all E:TW threads in their relevant forum for the purpose of forum searching.

May I also suggest the merging of the M:TW mod guides forum (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=238) into either The Engineer's Guild (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=40) or the Guides Section (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=47). It seems a little more logical to place them in a relevant sub category rather than have them lengthening the front page.

Might I also suggest that the mod recruitment forums and moved into their respective game's modification area (Mod Downloads, Forge, Mods in Development etc.). Since they are not hosted mods, the suggested area may be more relevant to their purpose.

I'm sorry to be critical of your writing Tosa, but there are some minor grammatical mistakes in the Signature FAQ (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item#faq_faq_sigpic). This just includes spaces in wrong places and links overrunning the words which they are supposed to do so.

As before, I'm sorry to be so critical, although I do, at the moment, feel that these ideas may be more useful out in the open rather than locked away in my mind.

Thanks!

Mouzafphaerre
11-01-2007, 20:14
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May I also suggest the merging of the M:TW mod guides forum into either The Engineer's Guild or the Guides Section.
Guides section please, under the proper MTW Guides sub-section. Titles would receive an (XL) prefix, for instance, to be distinguished.
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Husar
11-01-2007, 21:30
I have a weird problem since these changes happened.

I'm using Opera and some threads have a seemingly completely inactive reply button now, that means I can click it and nothing happens, it doesn't even attempt to load or contact the server. It works fin in most threads(like this one), but in those affected even reloading doesn't seem to help. I tried it in Internet Explorer and it worked there, guess it has to do with the new stuff since I never had this problem before. :shrug:

Charge
11-01-2007, 21:45
@Husar, what thread exactly? I haven't encounter any problems yet...

EDIT: checked, it works for me :dizzy:...

Husar
11-01-2007, 21:52
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1734513#post1734513

That one for example, I can't click any link in it I noticed now. Whatever I click in the thread window, nothing happens, though I know I watched at the poll statistics before, so it worked before. :dizzy2:

Something that happens in every thread is that when I click "jump to new post", I always end up a few posts above the actual new post, not even at a distinct post, can be in the middle of some older post. :dizzy2:

edit: seems like the things I clicked load once I close the tab with the affected thread. It seems that in all affected thread a certain member with a signature that looks a bit weird here has posted. Also the misplacement when going to new posts seems to be bigger with more posts, I might try disabling the broadband option, it seems like many errors can be linked to that.

edit2: disabling the broadband option fixed both problems, it jumps to the correct position and I can click all links where I couldn't do it before.

TosaInu
11-02-2007, 00:01
Husar, can you enable broadband and try again please?

Husar
11-02-2007, 00:33
Husar, can you enable broadband and try again please?
Done, seems to work fine now, thanks Tosa. :bow:

pevergreen
11-02-2007, 00:43
my point was that i prefer the member category to be above the avatar.

TosaInu
11-02-2007, 01:05
Hello Omanes Alexandrapolites,


I dislike the existing space even more. May I request its the restoration to former beauty - I felt more relaxed and comfortable with the classical layout.

This is the classical layout in that it was setup that way years ago, I thought it still was like that. Something went wrong and I didn't notice as I usually have URLavatars enabled.



If we have to keep it though, could we place a space between the custom user title and the avatar. In addition, could we also have a space between the avatar and the user group name. This would remove my primary issue with the new looks existence. As I have said, restoration of the old layout would be preferable, but I'm willing to settle for a compromise for now.

A normal space feels too big.

It's unfortunately not possible to leave this choice to each user individually (even the two main forumviews can't be selected by the user). It would be nice if the user could modify every part of the forum: the database serves, the user decides how he sees it.



I've kept quiet about this for while now, but I do feel that I ought to mention a few issues I have with the .Org layout in general.

Don't bite your tongue please.



My primary problem is with the location of the "favourites" function (whose image I am using AdBlock+ to hide). It adds bulk to the bar which is something I find rather unattractive.

In my opinion, a more ideal solution would be to have the favourites icon next to the "Report Post" button. To ensure continuity, it would be better if it were the same size as the buttons on that row (21px by 17px). A star, comparable to the IE 5, 6 and 7 icon, probably would be the best option for this.

That's a nice suggestion for the position.



Another thing I want to bring to your notice is the lack of a user group being shown for those who are clan managers (for example InsaneApache or Puzz3D). May I suggest that this works like those who have extra PM space - they retain a normal title and remain part of the Junior Member/Member/Senior Member system.

That's a weird thing indeed. .. I may see what I overlooked when trying to fix this months ago when it popped up.. A Clan account may have to post to enforce an update on his account. It may be fixed it may not.

No, it's a 'rank' and should be visible as such.



An italic title could also apply to those who are banned so they are more easily distinguishable.

It's empty now.



Another item I wish to bring to your notice, is that selecting "No Icon" when posting actually provides an icon anyhow.

Yes, a default icon, otherwise you'll get an unconvenient topiclisting.


On the R:TW skin, this is a fairly generic post icon. On other skins, its a smiley face. For tidiness, and continuity, may I suggest that the "no icon" is replaced by either no icon, or by the "post" icon.

Yes, old default since 2000. It can be changed to another default, but?


In addition, may I request more detailed descriptions for the Frontroom and Backroom, hopefully to enable easier differentiation between the two.

Will think about that.



Also forum wise, it possibly would be a good idea to move the E:TW announcement threads in the EH into the E:TW forum itself - it seems more logical to place all E:TW threads in their relevant forum for the purpose of forum searching.

The EH also contains several STW, MTW, RTW and possibly also M2TW topics. You want to have them all moved?



May I also suggest the merging of the M:TW mod guides forum (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=238) into either The Engineer's Guild (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=40) or the Guides Section (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=47). It seems a little more logical to place them in a relevant sub category rather than have them lengthening the front page.

They are Guides for mods. Not sure about moving them to the MTW guides forum (those forums are for new members and should not become complex). Moving them to the modding forums hides them: people picked up a mod and play. I don't think a casual player would search the technical modforums for a guide. Moving them to a hosted mod forum, was the first thought, but there are mods that do not have a hosted forum, so creating a new category seemed best.



Might I also suggest that the mod recruitment forums and moved into their respective game's modification area (Mod Downloads, Forge, Mods in Development etc.). Since they are not hosted mods, the suggested area may be more relevant to their purpose.

That's true, but it's usually larger teams that have a hosted modforum and are looking for recruits. But what do the modders think about this?


I'm sorry to be critical of your writing Tosa, but there are some minor grammatical mistakes in the Signature FAQ (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item#faq_faq_sigpic). This just includes spaces in wrong places and links overrunning the words which they are supposed to do so.

Don't worry. I saw three wrong spaces, you see other errors?



Feel that these ideas may be more useful out in the open rather than locked away in my mind.

Thanks!

Yes, often I'm not aware at all of something. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

TosaInu
11-02-2007, 01:08
Done, seems to work fine now, thanks Tosa. :bow:

It was the reflection feature causing trouble then.

TosaInu
11-02-2007, 01:24
Clan title shows.

Husar
11-02-2007, 01:39
It was the reflection feature causing trouble then.
Thought so, noticed it's gone.
As you know, I didn't like it anyway. ~;)

Mouzafphaerre
11-02-2007, 03:48
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They are Guides for mods. Not sure about moving them to the MTW guides forum (those forums are for new members and should not become complex). Moving them to the modding forums hides them: people picked up a mod and play. I don't think a casual player would search the technical modforums for a guide. Moving them to a hosted mod forum, was the first thought, but there are mods that do not have a hosted forum, so creating a new category seemed best.
How about creating sub-sections under the Guides section? So that all guides could be found in one place conveniently.
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Omanes Alexandrapolites
11-02-2007, 09:39
A normal space feels too big.

It's unfortunately not possible to leave this choice to each user individually (even the two main forumviews can't be selected by the user). It would be nice if the user could modify every part of the forum: the database serves, the user decides how he sees it.I was thinking of it a little more like this:
https://s211.photobucket.com/albums/bb89/Omanes/Screenshots/MemberType.jpg


This doesn't, in my opinion, make the usergroup too detached from the rest of the text.

Unfortunately, in the case of those which have that field blank, the gap probably will look too large. If this system was to be used, then they may have to have a title assigned to them to prevent this.
That's a nice suggestion for the position.:bow:
That's a weird thing indeed. .. I may see what I overlooked when trying to fix this months ago when it popped up.. A Clan account may have to post to enforce an update on his account. It may be fixed it may not.

Yes, old default since 2000. It can be changed to another default, but?I was just thinking that a smiley face could be a little misleading. If somebody is going on an angry rant, and they fail to select an icon, the default one doesn't seem to fit.
Will think about that.:bow:
The EH also contains several STW, MTW, RTW and possibly also M2TW topics. You want to have them all moved?No, it was just the E:TW announcements I was thinking of - members may want to search for them in the futre, and probably will turn to the E:TW forums to do this.
They are Guides for mods. Not sure about moving them to the MTW guides forum (those forums are for new members and should not become complex). Moving them to the modding forums hides them: people picked up a mod and play. I don't think a casual player would search the technical modforums for a guide. Moving them to a hosted mod forum, was the first thought, but there are mods that do not have a hosted forum, so creating a new category seemed best. I was thinking more of the forum being moved rather than the guides themselves. Sorry for any confutation caused by my lack of clarity.
Don't worry. I saw three wrong spaces, you see other errors?That seems to have fixed it. Thanks!

TosaInu
11-02-2007, 10:58
Hello Omanes Alexandrapolites,


I was thinking of it a little more like this:
https://s211.photobucket.com/albums/bb89/Omanes/Screenshots/MemberType.jpg


This doesn't, in my opinion, make the usergroup too detached from the rest of the text.

Unfortunately, in the case of those which have that field blank, the gap probably will look too large. If this system was to be used, then they may have to have a title assigned to them to prevent this.:bow:

There are default membertitles: Junior Member, Member, Senior Member..
We can see how it looks.



I was just thinking that a smiley face could be a little misleading. If somebody is going on an angry rant, and they fail to select an icon, the default one doesn't seem to fit.:bow:

Yes, I see that. But the idea others have by say, the posticon, is that the thread contains some essay/guide. When the default icon is removed completely and when a user is forced to make a selection before posting, nothing stops the poster to just select something. Leaving it blank also makes fusy topics. There's always the risk of posticons not covering the content.



I was thinking more of the forum being moved rather than the guides themselves.

I understood it that way.



How about creating sub-sections under the Guides section? So that all guides could be found in one place conveniently.

At the moment there are only guides for the XL mod, but there are more popular mods. When there are guides for those as well, I hope so, then the Guides forum will be clutered by subforums. The idea is to keep the Guides forum quick and clear.

Mouzafphaerre
11-02-2007, 14:05
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At the moment there are only guides for the XL mod, but there are more popular mods. When there are guides for those as well, I hope so, then the Guides forum will be clutered by subforums. The idea is to keep the Guides forum quick and clear.
Fair. :bow: Actually I'm warmer to my previous idea: Grouping the guides by games only and tagging the threads (similar to the way in the M2 boards maybe) according to mods, as already done for expansions. Eg: XL: Serbia (Early) or Serbia (Early - XL Mod Faction); EB: Lusotana or Lusotana (EB Faction) when that one is written ~D etc.
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TosaInu
11-02-2007, 16:19
Green start to add favourites, red star to remove it again.

Andres
11-02-2007, 18:23
It seems like the Org is slower since these changes occured.

I'm I the only one experiencing this? I have broadband.

Husar
11-02-2007, 18:25
I also noticed that, seems to be a bit better without the reflections, but then it has almost always been somewhat slow. :shrug:

TosaInu
11-02-2007, 18:29
Hello Andres,

The changes are like AB -> BA, no additions are made.

The reflection, remove now, did add an extra loading. But that was loaded while you could already start reading and scrolling.

Mouzafphaerre
11-03-2007, 00:38
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No speed change over here. :trytofly:
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The Wizard
11-03-2007, 00:49
For a moment there I thought I'd been kicked out of the Senior Members. You scared me there, Tosa :laugh4:

CountArach
11-03-2007, 02:53
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No speed change over here. :trytofly:
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Ditto

edyzmedieval
11-03-2007, 08:56
That is kind of weird. I never actually experienced any problems with the new style, and I could load it as easily as the old thing. :inqusitive:

Omanes Alexandrapolites
11-03-2007, 15:50
Just something I forgot to mention in my second post.

Its just that the title used for the "Clan" rank could be a little misleading - possibly suggesting that the user account is used by an entire clan rather than just by the clan's Orghly representative.

To remedy this, might I suggest that the title is changed to "Clan Representative" or "Clan Leader", or words to that effect.

Might I also suggest the addition few more categories in the LDM (Links and Downloads Manager) - primarily in the M2:TW modding tutorial category. In addition, extra categories could be used to provide links to non-modding tools such as the capital locator, or to locate useful research topics and information posted by CA developers.

TosaInu
11-03-2007, 16:53
Might I also suggest the addition few more categories in the LDM (Links and Downloads Manager) - primarily in the M2:TW modding tutorial category. In addition, extra categories could be used to provide links to non-modding tools such as the capital locator, or to locate useful research topics and information posted by CA developers.

Which categories do you suggest to add?

Omanes Alexandrapolites
11-03-2007, 18:56
Which categories do you suggest to add?I was thinking of an "Information Posted by the CA" section, in addition to an area which can be used to store tools such as RomeSage which aren't useful for modding purposes.

Perhaps also the FAQs and Guides areas could be split into a "Generic Guides" section, and "Specific Guides" area, to enable users to find what they are looking for more efficiently.

I was also thinking of the M2:TW tutorials section (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?catid=136) being expanded using the same categories as that of the R:TW tutorials section (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?catid=70).

Just a final idea, I was thinking that perhaps this forum (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=36) could be replaced by a multitude of LDM technical support sub-categories and categories in their relevant game's section. To me, it seems sensible to use the LDM to store links to useful technical support questions and answers.

edyzmedieval
11-03-2007, 19:00
I agree with what Omanes has just stated above. It would give the Org an extra touch. Tosa, please make sure that it does not slow the forum down, or causes some clogging and unavailability for the forum.

Thank you.

Caius
11-04-2007, 00:22
Its laggy the .Org.

Or my computer is laggy.