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SwordsMaster
11-01-2007, 13:44
Anyone knows when it'll be out? I know it is out on consoles in November, but all i can get for PC is "early 2008". Hardly a deadline...
This is one game i've been looking forward to for a while.
I don't think its been confirmed, just 08. Anyways I have it on preorder for 360, cant wait for next week :2thumbsup:
Craterus
11-10-2007, 22:51
Is there a thread about this coming out on PS3, or all consoles.
I need to know everything there is about the game 'cos I've yet to decide if it's worth £50. Thankyou.
EDIT: If there isn't a thread, could someone just summarise the most important/interesting points about the game in this thread.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-10-2007, 23:14
I'm buying it. This is in my top three games list to buy (FSX and WiC are the others, they're both coming for Christmas). ~:)
Im posting mainly to obtain a subscription to the thread. Its pending on consoles which I havent gotten the next generations of yet (still use a PS2 from time to time). I am absolutely considering this game for the PC, and wholeheartly appreciate anyone with info on it.
Color me interested.
Significant questions pending:
1. What DRM does it ship with?
2. Is it going to be Vista only?
3. Does it handle and feel like a halfarsed console port?
edyzmedieval
11-11-2007, 17:28
I just hope it won't be a stupid console port to the PC, but a really good game.
Well if your using that deeply flawed logic, that's all it can be. :no: Mean while I'll be playing this on the 360 come X-mas.
Looks intriguing but I'm steering clear until it's been thoroughly reviewed and patched. If it's yet another one of those full price action titles that sports less than 7 hours of gameplay I'll wait a year or so for the price to reach 'sales special' or bargain bin prices.
On the other hand I believe COD4's ~5 hours of SP gameplay is perfectly justified since they put a great deal of time and effort into creating an excellent and unique MP experience. 16 MP maps is a ton of value for the dollar.
RoadKill
11-12-2007, 22:17
I am so pumped up for this game. I already pre-ordered it for the PS3. Looks so awsome.
Dutch_guy
11-12-2007, 22:34
Perhaps it's just me, but in what way is this game anything more than a Hitman: Blood Money set in the Middle-Ages ?
:balloon2:
SwordsMaster
11-12-2007, 22:48
Perhaps it's just me, but in what way is this game anything more than a Hitman: Blood Money set in the Middle-Ages ?
:balloon2:
And what would be wrong with that? I like Hitman, and I like the middle ages!
Craterus
11-12-2007, 22:50
And what would be wrong with that? I like Hitman, and I like the middle ages!
I concur, but still wanting to know more.
:help:
RoadKill
11-12-2007, 23:18
Craterus find all the info about it on this site.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/assassinscreed/index.html?tag=topten;all;img;0
(After you go into the site, click news & preveiws)
Veho Nex
11-13-2007, 04:06
its also on the Nintendo DS dont ask me why
doc_bean
11-13-2007, 18:18
its also on the Nintendo DS dont ask me why
UBI always ports anything to everything, even if the ports have nothing to do with the original game.
They also have a great price drop policy :2thumbsup:
Mailman653
11-13-2007, 19:06
GS review
http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/assassins-creed/834669p1.html
GS review
http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/assassins-creed/834669p1.html
Well that wasnt a very flattering review as far as game content.
"each element of the game sacrifices too much in order to squeeze other major elements in."
I'd reccommend everyone read this review, sure its only 1 review but if and when it comes out on PC, it looks like a bargain bin purchase at best...
I've also heard from friends in the industry that there was a moratorium on sub 9/10 reviews for 12-24 hours after the game's release. Sounded fishy to me but it made sense seeing how quite a few reviews didn't show up until later on, and more than just a few of them are less than stellar.
Until I heard from a few friends who intend on buying, it would seem Odin's assessment is a spot on, if even bargain bin. If it's got the same horrible console-type interface on the PC like Bioshock, then it's doubtful I'll trouble with it.
Edit - Here's another thought. Keep track of the review scores on the sites, and see if any are later pulled, retracted, or revised later.
Craterus
11-13-2007, 21:39
Craterus find all the info about it on this site.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/assassinscreed/index.html?tag=topten;all;img;0
(After you go into the site, click news & preveiws)
Yeah, I've been there. Thanks, I just wondered if there was any more info cos that just didn't seem enough. Heh, guess that's all there is.
Bob the Insane
11-13-2007, 22:15
GS review
http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/assassins-creed/834669p1.html
ergh... And I have the 360 version on reserve too... :sweatdrop:
RoadKill
11-14-2007, 01:09
I would like to tell everyone to not trust the IGN review. IGNorant's review is complete !@$#!@. They complain how the PS3 version has terrible frame-rate when almost every other site said it ran as smooth as possible. They also complained about things that almost every single game review boards cheered for. Trust me Assassin's Creed is a must get. It will amaze you so much, its a pure success.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-14-2007, 01:39
Even at a "good" rating, I'd still buy it.
I would like to tell everyone to not trust the IGN review. IGNorant's review is complete !@$#!@. They complain how the PS3 version has terrible frame-rate when almost every other site said it ran as smooth as possible. They also complained about things that almost every single game review boards cheered for. Trust me Assassin's Creed is a must get. It will amaze you so much, its a pure success.
That review had a fair amount more to say then just frame rates, but it is only 1 review.
Mind taking a moment or two and posting a link to a more favorable review? In the end I will wait until the official boards/mods etc but console ports have always made me yancy.
But I am more then willing to read other reviews, if you have them.
I like the Gametrailers review (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27616.html) (contains violence of course).
The score seems a bit high but the explanation of the guy and the footage to underline it is quite interesting IMO.
This definitely looks like it's designed for the console, and the PC controls are NOT going to be good.
Geoffrey S
11-14-2007, 11:32
Haven't read it yet, but a 9.0 (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/review.html?sid=6182793&om_act=convert&om_clk=multimodule&tag=multimodule;picks;story;4) from gamespot. Not that I'm ever particularly bothered about reviews (let alone theirs), but still...
This definitely looks like it's designed for the console, and the PC controls are NOT going to be good.
I can't believe your the least bit surprised by that. Look at any video where it was demoed and the guy playing the demo was using a 360 controller.
I can't believe your the least bit surprised by that. Look at any video where it was demoed and the guy playing the demo was using a 360 controller.
I don't want to play with a joypad, I like my keyboard and mouse. If I wanted to do that, I'd go buy a @#%#@ console. You are right however, it would seem these days that it's just wishful thinking, but one would hope that a port would make an honest attempt to modify the game so that would work on (platform) well. Guess history is against me here...
Deus Ex: IW and Thief 3 both used that horrible Unreal engine offshoot that was never meant to be on PC.
Halo on the PC was miserable, clearly another direct port, it was meant to be played with a joypad, the WASD/mouse was miserable.
Same with Splinter Cell 1, I don't care what anyone says, the controls on PC were garbage.
Prince of Persia was a disappointment on PC for same reason.
Looks like this is no different, it would appear they designed the game to be played with a joypad, with no thought given to other methods (like keyboard/mouse).
Bob the Insane
11-15-2007, 15:38
I have it now on the 360... Been trhough the tutorial and the first assassination...
While I understand some of the negative comments in the reviews, I feel they have been overstated.
Firstly the game does look fantastic and the story so far works fine even (if you bother to listen) why peoples voices sound odd sometimes and all the weird interferance you see on screen (avoiding spoilers).
The control style is a bit different but does work well, though I have not really gotten the timing perfected yet for the fighting. However for the point of this thread, i have no idea how they will map to the PC, you will be using like 8 keys (or buttons) at once plus the mouse!?!?!
The gameplay is really fun, moving through the city doing your assassin thing...
It is correct that you do not need to complete all of the investigation sub missions before an assassination, but they do help, with real world information. Things like the easiest direction to get into the targets area, suggestions for escapes and ways to move around. It could have been better but is not bad.
The scores in the reviews are appropriate I think, and I feel the main cause of the apparantly heavy critisim is disappointment that this is not the "best game ever!". It is not, but is is very good and does attempt to break new ground. A combination of Hitman and GTA. And it does look stunning (for the 360). If the AI is as bad as reported then I am a terrible player, so far it seems pretty easy to get discovered by the guard and chased around the place. The game makes you feel like you are a very capable individual, but you still need to be careful of mistakes or taking on too many guards.
Plus the guards/soldiers outside of the cities are considerably more difficiult to fight. After owning the city guards I was surprized to have one soldier kick the whatsits out of me!
All in all, lots of fun and interesting story so far...
alman7272
11-15-2007, 17:04
I got a 360 specifically for AC and Mass Effect. :)
I don't want to play with a joypad, I like my keyboard and mouse. If I wanted to do that, I'd go buy a @#%#@ console. You are right however, it would seem these days that it's just wishful thinking, but one would hope that a port would make an honest attempt to modify the game so that would work on (platform) well. Guess history is against me here...
Deus Ex: IW and Thief 3 both used that horrible Unreal engine offshoot that was never meant to be on PC.
Halo on the PC was miserable, clearly another direct port, it was meant to be played with a joypad, the WASD/mouse was miserable.
Same with Splinter Cell 1, I don't care what anyone says, the controls on PC were garbage.
Prince of Persia was a disappointment on PC for same reason.
Looks like this is no different, it would appear they designed the game to be played with a joypad, with no thought given to other methods (like keyboard/mouse).
Well games like Splinter Cell, Assassins Creed, and PoP just plain aren't going to be designed to work with a equally well with a keyboard. The PC platform just isn't going to account for enough of the player base for it to matter to Ubisoft at all. And Ubisoft (who incedentally is behind all those games) is famous for quickie ports. I'm sure who ever M$ drafted to do the port tried to make Halo work on PC. But they didn't suceed. Yours is not the first Halo PC=teh suck accessment I've heard.
edyzmedieval
11-16-2007, 13:08
Well if your using that deeply flawed logic, that's all it can be. :no: Mean while I'll be playing this on the 360 come X-mas.
What's this comment supposed to mean? :inquisitive:
This,
I just hope it won't be a stupid console port to the PC, but a really good game.
is such flawed logic it's not funny. The ONLY games designed with the PC in mind these days are RTS games, and some FPS's and RPG's. Everything else is designed for a console and it's controller. Games like Splinter Cell and Assassin's Creed are only ever going to be console ports to the PC. Consoles are king in the gamming market, just the way it is.
frogbeastegg
11-17-2007, 22:38
After spending half of this evening playing the 360 version I'm in agreement with Bob the Insane. Me likes. To me it plays like Prince of Persia with a dash of Metal Gear Solid and a pinch of Thief, as I've not played Hitman or GTA. You can tell that the same team behind Prince of Persia made this game.
The animation in particular is stunning. It gives me the same feeling as Sands of Time did in 2003 in that it's ahead of anything I've seen before and so natural it immediately makes other games look clumsy. Not seen any trace of the tearing some reviews have been complaining about; I’m using 720p and it looks fabulous.
I notice quite a few reviews complain about the guards standing around to take it in turns to attack you. Wish I could say that - I keep getting stabbed in the back by one guard while another attacks me from the front. Block will only stop attacks coming from head on and its hard to evade when surrounded, so this is a very effective combo.
It's a joy to run around and explore. Picking up the optional missions, hunting for flags, and tagging viewpoints. The areas you are given to play around in are massive! Thief III should have handled its city overworld this way.
If someone could explain to me why the guards in the Kingdom area are permanently hostile and will attack me on sight unless I use blend mode I'd be grateful. It's infuriating to have to shuffle along so slowly each time I reach one of the numerous outposts when there's literally miles to cross. I don't have any problems in the cities.
I could have done without the scifi angle on the story. When I first heard about the game it was being reported as a straight up historical setting with Altair trying to keep peace in the Holy Land by judiciously assassinating people on both sides. The scifi tale may yet win me over; it's by no means bad so far.
I have done the first assassination. Quite a ... lively affair.
The guy drew his sword and started attacking me even though I was in blend mode in a crowd. The city guards joined in. I died. Checkpoint loaded, and the guy does it again, killing me before I had chance to draw my sword. He then went psycho on the city guards. Third time I killed him and ran off across the rooftops, chased by the guards.
I was trying to use my hidden blade for a stealth assassination, yet for some reason I couldn't get it to work. The target kept going psycho on me before I could get close.
No, so far I wouldn't call it game of the year. That doesn't prevent it from being a polished, enjoyable production.
Bob the Insane
11-18-2007, 00:00
I just did that one from the demo movies... The French dude in the castle...
That whole leap on someone and stab them thing is not as easy as they made it look...
I died once and then on the second go got into this rediculously huge battle in the middle of which I managed to kill the guy, it is funny having the cut scene, once it ends you realise you are still surrounded by the dead guy's mates and they don;t look happy... Run!!!
Oh, Froggy look out for Templars in the city... They never show up on the maps but you see them occasionally in the city (chap in heavy armour, white shirt and big red cross). There are points for assassinating them but be warned they are hard as nails... I was stunned the first time. I had been kicking the city guard's around and then this one guy did the same to me!!
frogbeastegg
11-18-2007, 19:09
Oh, Froggy look out for Templars
I found one in the Kingdom area near one of the viewing points. It was quite the shock. I was sneaking around a soldier's camp in blend mode, worried by the large number of angry soldiers standing around the viewing spot I wanted to climb. So I edged my way around one wall, around a bit more, a bit more, surely the line of sight will break soon, a bit more, then suddenly Altair is crumpling to the ground in a gout of blood. There was a Templar standing watch at the back of the tower and he killed me before I'd finished swinging the camera around so I could see around the corner.
I'm intending to spend some more time sight seeing tonight. Exploring these environments hunting for flags, mini missions and neat little secrets is so relaxing.
Craterus
11-18-2007, 19:35
Ah, dilemma! I'm sold on this but do I get it now, or wait for Christmas?
The Stranger
11-18-2007, 19:48
bought it today... it rocks
frogbeastegg
11-19-2007, 20:17
Ah, dilemma! I'm sold on this but do I get it now, or wait for Christmas?
I'd say that depends on the kind of player you are. If you are content to play a game simply to fool around, experiment and explore then there's a lot to like and a lot to do. Last night I got the 'killed 100 enemies without dying' achievement, played tag with some guards in the middle of a village with curious locals looking on in order to get a second achievement, scaled all 12 viewpoints in the Kingdom area, entered Acre and saved a monk from some thugs, found some hidden flags, got killed by Templars, and did a lot of horse riding. I didn't advance the plot one bit.
Conversely, if you intend to follow the essential path through the game you'd better wait for the price drop. People who play this way complain the game is repetitive, short and limited.
NB: Don't get the impression that combat is easy because of my killing 100 enemies without dying. I was very careful about fighting small parties, assassinating where possible, and picking on the weakest guard type in the Kingdom area. The other types kill me more often than I'd like if I meet them in numbers. I don't know why some reviews have complained about block making you completely invulnerable - when facing any but the most basic enemies I get stabbed in the back by multiple attackers, thrown, or my guard beaten aside. Some of the more advanced types, like Templars, have parried my supposedly unbeatable counterattacks and smacked me for a whole lot of damage.
Craterus
11-19-2007, 23:16
Hmm, thanks. Sounds like it would be a good idea to buy it now then.
Thank you.
Papewaio
11-20-2007, 00:03
How can a mere assassin stand up against a Geisha. :bow:
tibilicus
11-20-2007, 01:18
The sooner its out on pc, the sooner we can sleep happy.
On a more serious note seeming it's a first of a trilogy and a friend of mine has completed it on 360 any one for spoiler discusion?
Ayachuco
11-20-2007, 16:15
:furious3: Due to the conversations of froggie and Bob, I will have to get this game today instead of closer to christmas when my bonus gets in.
:shame: Oh, who am I kidding? I was going to get the game pretty soon anyway.:sweatdrop:
:soapbox: I should instead be protesting my employers for not giving our bonus last week and instead delayed it until the 13th of December. :soapbox:
The sooner its out on pc, the sooner we can sleep happy.
Yes. While I am encouraged by the console reviews here so far, I wonder if there will be a demo on this game when they port it. I havent been able to find the time to do much backround work on the title myself.
Craterus
11-20-2007, 21:15
No spoilers please!
tibilicus
11-21-2007, 01:28
Reveiws are a bit mixed so far.
Some gave it fairly medicor others gave it a very good score. For those who have played it did you feel some thigns were sacraficed in the atempt to link and lead it further into a series of sequal games after?
frogbeastegg
11-21-2007, 13:54
For those who have played it did you feel some thigns were sacraficed in the atempt to link and lead it further into a series of sequal games after?
My feeling is that a lot of a mixed reviews are down to the way reviewers played.
Spoiler discussion is fine as long as spoiler tags are used.
I did my second assassination stylishly.
I climbed up onto the rooftop and did a quick circuit stealth assassinating all the archers. Once the coast was clear I climbed down into the courtyard and blended with a passing group of scholars. I let them lead me around the hospital until I spotted my target. Quickly tagging him with eagle vision I exited the group and climbed up into the rafters. A little bit of stealthy working my way along and I ended up on a candelabra right above him. He didn't know what hit him; I did one of those flashy jump+stab kills the preview movies kept showing.
Now I have throwing knives. :hairpin2:
Bob the Insane
11-21-2007, 14:28
Froggy that was cool, but I just noticed there is an achievement for doing the stealth kill (x in low profile mode) on a main target...
Anyone worked out how to do the jumping kill (x in high profile mode) from above the target? Is it just a case of getting close enough?
To be honest most of my assassinations have devolved into a chase and/or big sword fight with numerous guards during which I kill the target and then make off... Much like my first run though of Hitman, only with more swords...
Hint rather than spoiler...
You can really make you life easier after an assassination by quietly taking out the archers on the rooftops around the target area.
Don't bother with this in before the actually assassination event is unlocked because the guards all respawn...
doc_bean
11-21-2007, 17:32
Yes. While I am encouraged by the console reviews here so far, I wonder if there will be a demo on this game when they port it. I havent been able to find the time to do much backround work on the title myself.
Most likely not, most games on the 360 have a demo, this one doesn't.
Most likely not, most games on the 360 have a demo, this one doesn't.
Hey Doc hows things?
I should clarify, I meant a Demo for the PC when its ported (maybe you understood what I meant)
frogbeastegg
11-21-2007, 21:04
Froggy that was cool, but I just noticed there is an achievement for doing the stealth kill (x in low profile mode) on a main target...
Yes, I thought I might have scraped that one by doing the drop-and-kill thing, as no one knew I was there until the body hit the ground. Sadly not.
Anyone worked out how to do the jumping kill (x in high profile mode) from above the target? Is it just a case of getting close enough?
Stand above an unsuspecting target, within say five feet of him, select your hidden knife, lock on with L1, and hit and hold a+x at the same time to jump down at the target with your hidden knife drawn. Works nearly every time.
I did assassination number 3 today and it made me Not Happy. Very minor spoilers
I hated the way there no no hope of doing it stealthily! There was no alternate way into the building, and once there you were locked into the cutscene-fight-chase-cutscene cycle until you managed to catch up with the guy and hack him into bloody pieces in the middle of the street! Gah! I had carefully cleared the rooftops without alerting anyone, and expected to be able to enter via the rooftop windows and throwing knife the target.
Very disappointing after my sneaky stealthiness on number 2.
Now I'm better equipped I've begun Templar hunting. 3 down, lots to go. Throwing knives are very useful for this, as it tends to be difficult to get near Templars without them spotting you and sticking their sword through Altair's intestines.
Got all of the flags in the assassin village now, and some more achievements. The one for 25 guards in a single fight was the most challenging to arrange, and to be honest I'm glad that is over and done.
Today's antics have cemented my hatred for combo kills. The only thing they kill is me. Seems every time I try it one or two of my target's friends hack me in the back, stopping my attack and lopping off a quarter of my health bar. I wonder if you can get the 50 combo kill achievement by fighting the instructor in the training ring? He's the only enemy I can get them to work reliably on.
Craterus
11-21-2007, 22:29
I ordered it, so soon I can join in with all this technical discussion! :grin:
Ayachuco
11-23-2007, 05:15
I've been playing it all day on Thanksgiving and just finished up to the 1st half of Memory Block 3 in Acre. I haven't really been stealthily killing my targets so far although I was close in my second attempt. Accursed troublemaker pushing me into a guard right next to him.:furious3:
The block/deflect move is only invulnerable in Damascus, it seems or perhaps its b/c the quality of the guards there are really low. I don't really like doing combo kill moves b/c a) I haven't gotten the timing down pat yet and b) the counter attack move or the grab and throw, then hidden dagger suits me much better.
Other than that, I've been riding around on my horsie and bullrushing the guards. Man, that brought me back my memories of driving around in my Cheetah and running over people on GTA. Another good memory from GTA that still pisses me off, is Altair's inability to swim just like Tommy Vercetti in GTA:Vice City. I also have been killing guards indiscriminatly, I usually attack them when I see them on the street. There was one corner of Acre well suited to the task. I just killed the guards and hid in my haystack and jumped out and killed a curious guard before he was on alert. I think there was like 30 bodies along that street. It was funny. My only disappointment is the lack of random stuff you could do. I mean capturing flags is good and all but the only ones I like are the viewpoints/save citizens. I wish we could also kill innocent people and stuff like that, but oh, well. I'll just suffice by going to Jerusalum.
the low profile assassination move from behind works really good, I just blend and circle behind the guard and move in close enough and deftly stab him in his back and watch him slowly fall down. I also encountered my first Templar in the game. I was walking from the section of the wall where I killed all those guards and a Templar was hiding in a building and saw me. He DOMINATED me, my counter attacks and grab/throw movers were countered by a counter throw, he could hit aside my deflect move, my combo attacks only pissed him off since he had to waste his time blocking. I was fortunate that there were some vigilantes around to hold him while I got in some cheap shots. My second Templar encounter was a little better since I was able to lure him up a roof and was able to grab him and throw him off the roof after three failed attempts.
Can anyone tell me what the STEP move (A button during high profile on the 360) does during combat? Is it a way to move closer to the person like when you attack one guard and switch to another guard and vice versa? Remember, I just got my throwing knives and am going to Jerusalum, thats how much I progressed as getting upgrades/old equipment back.
doc_bean
11-23-2007, 18:10
Hey Doc hows things?
Hey Odin, I've been keeping pretty busy. Real life stuff :laugh4:
I should clarify, I meant a Demo for the PC when its ported (maybe you understood what I meant)
I did. I can't see them releasing a PC demo when they won't release one for the 360.
Perhaps they'll go the way of a late demo though, in that case the PC might get one too. But I wouldn't bet on it.
Warmaster Horus
11-23-2007, 18:43
I don't see them releasing a demo when a major part of the game is freedom of action. Maybe if they limited the area, but even then, it wouldn't be a good representative, in my opinion. It's like GTA games. No demos for those.
And, anyway, if they did make a demo, it would take them time. And I'd prefer to have the game itself ASAP.
Well no Demo for the PC pretty much eliminates me then, I might pick up a PS3 sometime in 08, until then if it dosent come with a demo I dont bother (particularly a port)
frogbeastegg
11-24-2007, 19:27
I wish we could also kill innocent people and stuff like that
You can kill anyone you see. I found this out by accident when I tried to stealth assassinate a guard and a random civilian walked by. I wasn't using the lock on and the stab decided to target her instead of the guard. Another time a fleeing woman stepped right into the middle of a swordfight and died.
Can anyone tell me what the STEP move (A button during high profile on the 360) does during combat?
I think it ties together with some of the more advanced combat moves so you can do that quickstep->guard break->kill the more advanced soldiers will use on you. Now I'm further along in the game the loading screen voice over occasionally mentions something about this, usually right when it is a short load so the speech gets cut off.
Am I alone in killing the mentally ill people? :shame: The pushing and shoving has broken my cover too many times. Once one pushed me into a guard when I was trying to eavesdrop, and it took me forever to get back to being anonymous. I ended up having to kill most of the district's guards because I couldn't get sufficient distance to break the line of sight. Guards on the rooftops, guards around every corner, guards following me, patrols, more madmen tripping me up ... Nightmare.
The big assassinations are irking me. Spoilers up to the end of memory block 4
There have been two now where I've been forced by cutscenes and game design to chase fleeing targets through the streets and hack them to bits in front of a screaming crowd while half the city guard busy themselves with stabbing me in the back.
The most recent one I did was the one with the execution fetish. I worked my way through the crowd to the front, locked on and hit him with a throwing knife as the information I'd gathered suggested to do. The knife either missed or didn't kill him, and, fed up with yet another "hack the target to pieces like a common street thug" scenario I let myself die so I could try again. This time I carefully sneaked my way onto the rooftops, took down the guards patrolling there, and worked into position so I could lock on to the target as he waltzed up and down doing his speech. I threw every knife I had at him - 5 - and they all hit. Did he die? Did he heck. Had to repeat the rubbish brawl and run method yet again.
The hospital doctor, has been the only enjoyable one thus far.
NB: Not done the Acre mission in block 4 yet.
Craterus
11-24-2007, 22:12
You can kill anyone you see. I found this out by accident when I tried to stealth assassinate a guard and a random civilian walked by. I wasn't using the lock on and the stab decided to target her instead of the guard. Another time a fleeing woman stepped right into the middle of a swordfight and died.
Yeah, I killed a fat bloke who was listening to a preacher in the poor district of Damascus. That was deliberate though.
:idea: Oh, and I was just trying it out, nothing against fat people!
Bob the Insane
11-24-2007, 23:04
Just finished it...
Some of the later missions can get pretty intense...
The story gets really interesting but the very end is the worst kind of "to be continued"... Can't wait for the next one...
For the accidentally killing people, I often get that when fighting with the short blade, because once slected at range you throw knives and upclose you use your short blade. After killing the last guard I would hit X one to many times and would throw off a knife in a random direction ending in the occasional scream... oops... :laugh4:
I found a useful skill for dealing with some of the thougher enemies if you end up in a fight is to grab a throw them down in front then quickly hit the up onm the DPad to switch to punch dagger and then right trigger and x to jump kill...
Ayachuco
11-25-2007, 05:33
I wish we could kill innocent people and stuff like that You can kill anyone you see. I found this out by accident when I tried to stealth assassinate a guard and a random civilian walked by. I wasn't using the lock on and the stab decided to target her instead of the guard. Another time a fleeing woman stepped right into the middle of a swordfight and died.
Am I alone in killing the mentally ill people? :shame: The pushing and shoving has broken my cover too many times. Once one pushed me into a guard when I was trying to eavesdrop, and it took me forever to get back to being anonymous. I ended up having to kill most of the district's guards because I couldn't get sufficient distance to break the line of sight. Guards on the rooftops, guards around every corner, guards following me, patrols, more madmen tripping me up ... Nightmare.
What I meant to type is that I wish I could kill innocent people and stuff like that without having to worry about the repurcussions of being dyschronized.
I been killing innocent people esp. those blasphemous preachers who spread those lies about Saladin and the Crusades. Once I kill them, the crowd dispurses and go on about their regular lives. I do hate those mentally ill people, but I don't kill them I just tackle them or push 'em around.
I don't think those throwing knives work on your target, I believe the main assassination targets can only be killed with the hidden blade. Otherwise, it wouldn't cut to the memory scene where you put the feather in their blood.
Bob the Insane, that's my main tactic whenever I fight but it doesn't work if the person does a counter throw grab on you esp. the Templars.
P.S.
I killed two more Templars today, makes 7 total for me.
Craterus
11-25-2007, 14:54
I've killed 4 templars so far and haven't even got any extra equipment. Haven't even killed the first target yet heh. I love this game though. :grin:
frogbeastegg
11-28-2007, 18:23
Got the 'Blade in the Crowd' achievement today, woohoo! Finally another kill which let me act like a professional. It was the book man. Very stylish; I only wish it were possible to do the same on every target.
Has anyone else spotted a killer version of the madman? I was wandering the rooftops of Damascus earlier today and I heard a guard scream. I turned the camera around and saw one of the mentally ill guys sprint away from a guard's corpse and jump off the side of the building. A bit later I heard a big crash followed by more screaming; a merchant stand had collapsed and crushed those nearby. Again I saw the madman running away. The guards went up to investigate, he punched one twice and ran off across the rooftops laughing. Lost track of him after that.
frogbeastegg
12-02-2007, 19:59
Finished it. That last section, starting from the beginning of the last assassination, was pretty dire.
Fighting. Endless forced fighting. With half your combat abilities disabled or nerfed into uselessness. Against opponents with 4 or 5 times the standard amount of health and who do 3 times the amount of damage. Fight at the funeral, fight on the road, fight before king Richard, fight Raynaud, fight your ex-allies, fight the assassination targets again, fight the old man and his 9 clones, fight the old man alone - argh!
Whoever decided to make the last part of the game so combat heavy needs a stern talking to, as does the one who decided to make those 'fun' changes to the combat system. Gah! They spent the entire game teaching you to do counter kills, guard breaks, acrobatic maneuvers, and then go and take it all away. Counter kills knocked the enemies down instead of killing them, guard breaks caused Altair to get hit midway through the animation, trying to finish downed guards cost half the health bar as nearby enemies hacked you in the back repeatedly, and to top it all off Altair was locked into a tiny little space by barriers so there was no space to work with. GAH!
The only good thing I have to say is that the checkpointing was very good. If you died not much was lost - mostly. :grinds teeth as she recalls the fight with Raynaud, the only part in the whole fiasco where she died, meaning she had to fight the very tough and dangerous group of goons over and over until Raynaud finally dropped dead on the 4th attempt:
Other than that I enjoyed the game.
Kekvit Irae
12-02-2007, 20:59
I'm currently on Memory Block 4, just finished off the fat merchant in Damascus. I can't decide whether Assassin's Creed or Mass Effect is the best game I've played this year.
Kekvit Irae
12-02-2007, 21:01
I've killed 4 templars so far and haven't even got any extra equipment. Haven't even killed the first target yet heh. I love this game though. :grin:
You regain equipment and abilities by completing the storyline missions. I do NOT suggest you tackle Templars until you get the Counter Attack move, as they will wipe the floor with you in combat if they spot you.
Craterus
12-02-2007, 21:35
Heh yeah. 33/60 of them now. But I am on the final target.
And I agree 100% with frogbeastegg. One of my investigations (a stealth-orientated one from an informer) degenerated into mindless fighting and running every single time. I got it eventually though.
My enthusiasm for this game has gone down a bit now though. Maybe I played too much in too short a time but it seems to have gotten a bit repetitive. Also, how do I check what awards I've got. I'm sure I've killed at least one target "properly", but I can't remember anything flashing up.
EDIT:
Am I alone in killing the mentally ill people?
No. Not exactly. I punch them in the face and they run away looking quite upset. But they are a huge annoyance.
Bob the Insane
12-02-2007, 22:24
Counter kills knocked the enemies down instead of killing them
I find with the more advanced enemies it is like that have multiple HP (like the Spartans in RTW)...
The first counter knocks them down and the second kills. Where as will the normal guards the first one did it...
As for the old man and his clones, I found normal attacking completely ineffective, by that point it was counter moves or nothing as he would counter any normal attack
frogbeastegg
12-03-2007, 20:04
Also, how do I check what awards I've got. I'm sure I've killed at least one target "properly", but I can't remember anything flashing up.
Not having had my 360 very long I'm hazy on the precise scren names/details. Press the big silver and green button with the xbox 'X' logo on it to bring up the dashboard, press A to select the option it defaults to. That should give a list of the games you've played. Select Assassin's Creed from the list; in my experience it was always at the top. That should give a list of all the game's achievements. The ones you have will have a little icon and score, and you can see further details of any barring the secret ones by highlighting it and pressing A.
No. Not exactly. I punch them in the face and they run away looking quite upset. But they are a huge annoyance.
The guards came and attacked me whenever I tried that. They did the same when I got into fist fights with those thugs you can steal knives from. The loading screen voice lied to me when it said guards wouldn't care about fist fights. Stealth killings were easier to get away from.
I find with the more advanced enemies it is like that have multiple HP (like the Spartans in RTW)...
The first counter knocks them down and the second kills. Where as will the normal guards the first one did it...
Obviously I didn't discover that. Not the smartest of decisions on the developer's part, IMO.
As for the old man and his clones, I found normal attacking completely ineffective, by that point it was counter moves or nothing as he would counter any normal attack
I had no trouble with the old man. I found both step ->guard break -> hit, or counter->hit worked on the first go. He and the 8 targets were so easy I could not believe it was not a trick of some sort. "You thought it was easy. That was the warm up. Now here's 60 uber tough templars to kill. And a dragon." :gring:
Kekvit Irae
12-03-2007, 20:27
You can punch or grab/throw anyone EXCEPT guards without the law going apecrap on you. Perhaps you are bumping into onlooking guards during the fistfight, or are accidentally switching to a weapon? I've only had one fistfight interrupted because I switched from fists to my hidden blade.
Bob the Insane
12-03-2007, 20:30
The only problem with fist fights is that the tough guys that you can pickpocket knives from will join in... I was always getting that in the interrogate missions...
Hey, did anyone get the "enemy of the poor" achievement from throwing beggers out of the way?
frogbeastegg
12-03-2007, 21:09
You can punch or grab/throw anyone EXCEPT guards without the law going apecrap on you. Perhaps you are bumping into onlooking guards during the fistfight, or are accidentally switching to a weapon? I've only had one fistfight interrupted because I switched from fists to my hidden blade.
Definitely not. ~:( It happened more in the later missions, so my guess is that the guards' tolerance levels to fist fights were cut to near nothing.
Hey, did anyone get the "enemy of the poor" achievement from throwing beggers out of the way?
Yes. I had to go far out of my way to get it, since I normally just jog past until they leave me alone.
Kekvit Irae
12-03-2007, 21:09
I've got Enemy of the Poor. It's an amusing achievement, since I HATE those women who get in the way of your assassinations.
Craterus
12-03-2007, 21:19
I've found that I can't get away with punching beggar women in the face, but it's totally ok for getting rid of the mentally ill guys.
Kekvit Irae
12-03-2007, 21:21
Apparently the game does not advocate violence toward women. You lose a bar of health by chucking around beggars, but it's perfectly alright to get into a brawl with retards, thugs, and drunkards.
Kekvit Irae
12-04-2007, 04:32
I managed to get Defender Of The People: Jerusalem by saving citizens of the city. The weird thing is that it's supposed to be given when you save EVERY citizen in the city. I still have one citizen left to save, and yet I managed to snag the achievement. Not complaining, but it's still weird. :tongueg:
Kekvit Irae
12-04-2007, 18:52
I managed to finish Assassin's Creed. Good game, but a rental at best. There's almost no replay value, except to collect all the missing flags. While ramming my hidden blade into the gut of beggar wenches never gets old, the objectives do. Now, if they offered more than just not losing life when attacking civilians when you win the game, I might be more interested.
Back to Bioshock for me. A new 100p achievement and new Downloadable Content (new plasmids and tonics!) is worth a free download.
Craterus
12-04-2007, 23:08
Credits are rolling right now. Hmmm, it tailed off really. Not really sure I like the ending. And these credits are way too long and I can barely read them.
Papewaio
12-05-2007, 06:02
Back to Bioshock for me. A new 100p achievement and new Downloadable Content (new plasmids and tonics!) is worth a free download.
Your Bioshock is ranking 11 of 387726!!!
Craterus
12-05-2007, 21:01
Assassin's Creed - Zero Punctuation (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2694-Zero-Punctuation-Assassin-s-Creed)
Enjoy.
Craterus
12-06-2007, 20:52
Also, do I have to sit through that final cutscene + credits every time I load up the game now? Cos I want to get a few more flags, kill a few more templars etc.
EDIT: Ok, so the final cutscene +credits are gone but I just want to free roam now. Do I really have to sit through the intro to an assassination every time?
RoadKill
12-06-2007, 22:39
I finally beat it man was it fun. And I have one thing to say.
EXPECT ASSASSIN'S CREED 2
Craterus
12-06-2007, 22:47
I heard it was going to be a trilogy.
Kekvit Irae
12-07-2007, 02:40
I heard Deus Ex: Invisible War was going to rock, too, but we all know how that went. Don't trust anything until you see it with your own eyes :tongueg:
Hooahguy
07-05-2011, 22:55
Im thinking about getting AC1, but will it work with Windows 7?
I keep hearing conflicting reports.
CountArach
07-07-2011, 16:55
Im thinking about getting AC1, but will it work with Windows 7?
I keep hearing conflicting reports.
I can confirm that it does. It is a terrible port onto PC though (AC2 is even worse, I swear). If you have a console get it on that.
Hooahguy
07-10-2011, 07:05
Ok so I got AC2, yet I have no idea how to run or jump. Or do anything really. Though fighting is smooth.
There is no tutorial, and Ive looked up how to jump but its no help. Im pressing high profile, yet I still cant jump or run, even when I press the button for legs.
Argh.
Ok so I got AC2, yet I have no idea how to run or jump. Or do anything really. Though fighting is smooth.
There is no tutorial, and Ive looked up how to jump but its no help. Im pressing high profile, yet I still cant jump or run, even when I press the button for legs.
Argh.
You are playing it on the PC right? I can't understand why you're having trouble....you need to keep the buttons pressed for parkour, and press and release 'the legs' button (instead of keeping it pressed) to jump. However Ezio jumps and climbs quite fine when free running.
And you can see if mapping the controls to arrow keys and num ,1,2 helps (1 for head, 2 for hands, 0 for legs)...I wasn't used to WASD, so changing it helped a lot.
Hooahguy
07-10-2011, 14:24
Thats the thing. The directions it gives to free run doesnt work. As a result, I cant do parkour either.
This is getting frustrating.
Then that means you can't even run. And the tutorials are in the first mission in the first memory block. Just find Ezio's older brother and that'll start it.
Hooahguy
07-10-2011, 17:12
Then that means you can't even run. And the tutorials are in the first mission in the first memory block. Just find Ezio's older brother and that'll start it.
Im at the part where you need to climb to the roof of the church. Whats frustrating is that I cant even go back to where I had to run to the brother so I can learn how to run.
You might be able to find a log of what was said. Anyway 2.5 nanoseconds on google found a listing of the basic controls. If you set the default controls, hold the space bar (legs/feet) and that will allow you to climb.
Hooahguy
07-10-2011, 18:54
Ive been doing that. Ive been trying all the different set ups for movement, nothing seems to work. Ive searched google for at least a half hour on how to do basic movements in AC2, but nothing useful has come up.
Right I just remembered something. You've got to hold down 2 buttons to climb/jump. And the tutorials don't tell you this. Hold down space bar AND either the right mouse button or F. Try both, but I'm reasonably sure it's F+Space bar. Which on the Xbox controller would be left trigger and A. Which is what I had to do to climb the whole game. And before you start flipping over tables in rage, it was designed to be played with a controller. And an Xbox controller can be used for the PC.
I'm quite stumped as to why isn't it working for you with a keyboard. (Directional key + high profile) pressed together gives running. Press a third key with these two, the legs key (all three pressed together) and you get free running.
Edit:
You might want to try and map the 'legs' to something other than the space key. Just a suggestion, since space-bar sometimes does not work properly for me in games.
Also Assassins Creed games take a heavy toll on your RMB, due to the constant need for high profile mode...mine is pretty unresponsive now-a-days.
Hooahguy
07-10-2011, 21:40
Thanks for the help. The problem was I wasnt holding down the right mouse button. Now Im bounding across rooftops like the rest of them.
I couldn't find another Assassin's Creed thread, so posting this here. Freaky stuff I found in a blog over at the AC wikia.
A post (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&f=5251069024&m=8931070439) on Ubisoft forums.
A credible source (http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/07/01/long-lost-leonardo-da-vinci-painting-to-be-unveiled/).
And a third painting (http://www.lairweb.org.nz/leonardo/salvator-small.jpg).
Hooahguy
07-31-2011, 20:06
Wow thats pretty freaky, but heres the color version:
http://www.lairweb.org.nz/leonardo/salvator-small.jpg
Not as freaky.
On the other hand I believe COD4's ~5 hours of SP gameplay is perfectly justified since they put a great deal of time and effort into creating an excellent and unique MP experience. 16 MP maps is a ton of value for the dollar.
There is nothing unique about it.
Drunk Clown
08-02-2011, 00:15
Why is that painting freaky?
Hooahguy
08-02-2011, 00:22
Why is that painting freaky?
Alright, lemme tell you, in spoilers in case people dont want to know...
So a big part of the AC series is the "piece of Eden" which was in the shape of the sphere that is in the painting. Also Da Vinci is in the second two games, so fans of the AC series claim that the picture in black and white shows the piece of Eden, bringing forth the possibility that the whole Templar/Assassins story isnt just made up.
Hope that made sense.
edyzmedieval
08-02-2011, 10:40
Alright, lemme tell you, in spoilers in case people dont want to know...
So a big part of the AC series is the "piece of Eden" which was in the shape of the sphere that is in the painting. Also Da Vinci is in the second two games, so fans of the AC series claim that the picture in black and white shows the piece of Eden, bringing forth the possibility that the whole Templar/Assassins story isnt just made up.
Hope that made sense.
I thought everything was fictional...
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