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Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-05-2007, 05:28
I finally got an account on multiplayer. I've been playing for two days, and I have the following badges (all in lowest grade) and ribbons:
Airborne Ribbon
Anti-Tank Badge
Support Badge
Sniper Badge (first one I got, but I had to re-earn it and the spec ops badge for some reason, it didn't record)
Special Operations Badge
Assault Badge
Medic Badge
I'm working on the last kit badge, Engineer.
Who else plays, and what're your accounts like? It's a couple of years old, but I know Warman and some others still play. ~:)
pevergreen
11-05-2007, 07:03
I recommend, if you are looking for a fun group to play in, take a look at a MyIS tournament for it. The australian 2142 version i play in is great fun :yes:
As for BF2, i havent played in years...
Mikeus Caesar
11-05-2007, 11:53
Maybe one day if i can be bothered going through the horrific patching process i'll reinstall it.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-05-2007, 14:01
I just got the Basic Pistol Combat Badge and the Engineer Badge, using a pistol for 80% of my kills in the round. I'll have the Veteran Pistol Badge as soon as I get 50 global kills. I'm only at about 14 now. My rank is 20 points away from being a Lance Corporal.
Ramses II CP
11-05-2007, 15:18
It's a fun game, but I pretty much quit playing after I got MTWII. All the guys I played with moved to 2142 and I have no interest in paying for an expansion pack that's more limited than the original.
Forget that infantry stuff, learn to fly a plane or gun a helicopter. You'll bounce up ranks in a hurry. Personally I always had the most fun being commander of a responsive team, which was pretty rare but excellent when it came around.
:egypt:
Bob the Insane
11-05-2007, 22:10
Loved my time in the game... Played mostly medic, but tried a bit of everything... Was really getting into the Zen of Sniper before moving on...
I would play now but there is no widescreen support and as with Ramses II CP above couldn't really get into 2142...
If they wanted to do a future one, why not go the whole hog with space ships, lasers and so on... Show Battlefront how it should be done...
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
11-05-2007, 22:24
I finally got an account on multiplayer. I've been playing for two days, and I have the following badges (all in lowest grade) and ribbons:
Airborne Ribbon
Anti-Tank Badge
Support Badge
Sniper Badge (first one I got, but I had to re-earn it and the spec ops badge for some reason, it didn't record)
Special Operations Badge
Assault Badge
Medic Badge
I'm working on the last kit badge, Engineer.
Who else plays, and what're your accounts like? It's a couple of years old, but I know Warman and some others still play. ~:)
We can Play Anytime You Want :beam:
TevashSzat
11-06-2007, 00:54
I used to play some, but then got bored of BF2 and moved on.
Really loved playing an Engineer and then just sit in a tank the whole game long; you get can get crazy amount of kills if they aren't too smart
Kekvit Irae
11-06-2007, 03:37
Considering that I have absolutely no skill in flying jets, and I have no joystick, and that single-player maps are too small for actual flying, the most I do in jets is to get from point A to point B before I parachute out.
Helicopters, on the other hand, I can easily fly. It's hovering with a mouse that tends to be a pain.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-06-2007, 04:19
Personally I always had the most fun being commander of a responsive team, which was pretty rare but excellent when it came around.
:egypt:
The Battlefield Gotland servers are great for that. Everyone works together and plays as a team on most of their servers, right down to the squad level.
EDIT: I got my Lance Corporal rank, and I'm about halfway to Corporal. I have the Engineer Badge and unlocked the G36 and M95. Enemies don't know what hit them when you pull the M95 out at long range. Also, what servers do you play on, Warman?
pevergreen
11-06-2007, 10:03
When picking unlocks in BF2 pick carefully.
The second upgrade is much better for special forces, as it is for assault.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-10-2007, 03:06
It wouldn't give me my Air Defence Badge in Bronze, even though I spent (and counted) the required five minutes. Any ideas why? I'm sure the server was ranked.
Ramses II CP
11-10-2007, 04:12
The awards can be a little wonky, and sometimes I think they have a server side filter that tosses them out if you're just whoring to get them. I got the knife badge no less than three times, but it's still not awarded in my stats. Don't worry about it.
:egypt:
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-10-2007, 05:47
I finally got my first medal!
https://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4955/firsttopthreelg8.png
A Bronze Star in my first time as commander! That's what I like about this server - they're all very good to people, and they'll let a complete newbie try his hand at command. Apparently I didn't do so badly. :2thumbsup:
Ramses, the reason you did not recieve the badge can boil down to two things:
A) You won the badge on an SF Map - AFAIK, they don't carry over.
B) You quit before the round was over. AFAIK (again), that eliminates the medal win from your stats.
Dutch_guy
11-10-2007, 10:41
I've recently started playing again. Don't know the English equivalent of the Dutch rank name, but I have a little more than 9000 points. Anyway, I'm currently only playing inf. only maps, I was getting rather tired of those über-pilots and tank whores, and I've always liked close combat better.
:balloon2:
Abokasee
11-10-2007, 15:33
Shame I can't play BF 2 anymore (probally the 16th time i've moaned about this) heat sync panal (or something along those lines) died, anyway I can get a new one, or revive it?
Ramses II CP
11-10-2007, 15:38
Heh, there are other reasons. Two of those times with the knife badge I was playing on pistol/knife only servers, which are illegitimate. ::shrug::
FYI on playing commander, one of the best things you can do as commander is constantly spot the enemy on the overhead map. If you run a scan (The side sweeping rather than the circling drone) only you get that data, but if you then right click and 'spot' the red dots they'll show up for the whole team. Also you can zoom in the commander map to spot those fiddly snipers in odd, heli-dropped or etc. spots. Good players can take immediate advantage of that info.
Hmm, you probably know this, but you can drop a supply crate on a destroyed commander resource to heal it.
Personally I also try to respond to any and all requests from the team, even if they don't seem to make sense (Unless they come from an idiot TK'er).
:egypt:
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-10-2007, 18:47
Heh, there are other reasons. Two of those times with the knife badge I was playing on pistol/knife only servers, which are illegitimate. ::shrug::
Oh, I just presumed you were playing on a ranked server. My bad.
By the way, Strike at Karkand is a good place to get pistol and knife, especially in close quarters near the Hotel, and in the Factory District on 64 player maps.
FYI on playing commander, one of the best things you can do as commander is constantly spot the enemy on the overhead map. If you run a scan (The side sweeping rather than the circling drone) only you get that data, but if you then right click and 'spot' the red dots they'll show up for the whole team. Also you can zoom in the commander map to spot those fiddly snipers in odd, heli-dropped or etc. spots. Good players can take immediate advantage of that info.
I was running constant UAVs and Scans, and all their troops of note were concentrated at the UAV. Thanks for the reference though, I'll need that in the future.
EDIT: Silver Star and Basic Explosive Ordinance in back-to-back rounds.
woad&fangs
11-10-2007, 23:58
I play it on the PS2 which I know doesn't even compare to the PC version but still... I am godlike on it. I play as rooster1 if anyone else plays the PS2 version. I stopped playing a few months ago when I got sick of all the wall hacks. My PPH is somewhere around 140 or 150. I play mostly medic and occasionly assault.
Just started playing BF2 again after a loooong hiatus (1.5+ years). In fact it's been a long time since I played any online shooters, period. It feels great to be playing BF2 again but boy, am I rusty! Oddly enough I had an easier time picking up the hyper-kinetic TF2 and pwning other people than I did suiting up as my beloved Spec Ops class and doing the same. It's not that my basic strats are bad but my crouching/going prone in a flash skills are definitely rusty. Not to mention I need a remedial course in nade tossing... :rolleyes:
One thing I noticed is that all-infantry map servers seem pretty prevalent nowadays. They're ok for those claustrophobic city maps but I'm definitely not a fan of those for the really big maps. I don't see why so many people despise vehicles in this game. One of the reasons why I love the BF series is because of the integration of vehicles and their contribution to the 'chaos factor' that makes online shooters so much fun. There's nothing more irritating than spending a long time humping it on foot to a far flung objective only to get whacked once you arrive. Also nothing gets the juices flowing faster than seeing an armored beast bearing down on your position when all you're armed with is a pea shooter and some nades.
As others have mentioned, the biggest problem I have with planes & helos in BF2 is the markedly smaller airspace one has to deal with. It really takes the fun out of flying when you constantly have be mindful of these no-fly zones while trying not to get shot down. In contrast flying was an absolute joy in BF1942 and its Desert Combat mod... not to mention there was a much better balance between ground & air assets in that game.
In reference to the discussion regarding team sizes I must chime in as an avid supporter of the 64 player map experience... I never join a server with less than 50 people. 32 vs. 32 feels much more realistic and visceral and simply 'feels right', especially when vehicles come into play. I can see the wisdom of smaller teams for smaller maps but a true 'squad vs squad' experience is more prevalent on servers with more players.
One thing I have noticed is that the skill, cooperation and overall friendliness of your average teammates is markedly higher than when I stopped playing a year and a half ago. I assume the immature, twitch kiddie crowd has moved onto other games like BF2142 and TF2.
I picked up the Euro Force/Armored Assault booster pack for $10 but noticed the alarming lack of servers running those maps. Is it the same story with the Special Forces expansion pack?
Can anyone recommend some good mods for BF2?
Ramses II CP
11-12-2007, 21:21
Yeah, the Euro and AA packs were pretty much complete failures. I know there are some very good mods out there, but you have to get hooked up to their respective communities to have any chance of finding a good MP mod game. I don't have the time for that myself.
It's too bad about the packs. People complained about the Euro maps, but I really liked two of them and having all out tank wars could be a blast.
Spec Ops is a little different as, from what I understand, all the Spec Ops maps are infantry specific. That's exactly why I never bought SO, so I don't know what the server situation is for it.
:egypt:
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-12-2007, 22:56
Special Operations maps can include helicopters, boats, APCs, IFVs, and more. ~:)
A Quick BF2 Video I Made To Test Fraps. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aywB7gNCjs)
I wish there was another Fraps-style recorder that allows infinite time and is free. This is the 30-second limit Fraps pieced together, which is partially why I'm playing so poorly. I always had to have a finger on F9 so it kept recording.
EDIT: Made a better version using remixer.
Maybe one day if i can be bothered going through the horrific patching process i'll reinstall it.
Yup, I agree. I use to play the game back in high school. I haven't played in a few years.
I was an ace with the helicopter, could pretty evade any SAM and kill anything with the wire guided when I wasn't flying.
I was decent at jets.
I think I enjoyed playing the SF model the best. I didn't like the expansions. I only bought the first one.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-14-2007, 03:05
Sergeant rank today, unlocked the next medic and sniper upgrades.
Adrian II
11-18-2007, 21:24
One thing I have noticed is that the skill, cooperation and overall friendliness of your average teammates is markedly higher than when I stopped playing a year and a half ago. I assume the immature, twitch kiddie crowd has moved onto other games like BF2142 and TF2.That is good news. One of the best features of this game is the team system, even though it used to be sadly ignored or abused by many players when the game had just come out. Nothing beats a few rounds of BF2 with an alert squad, a good squad leader and and a good mix of skills.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-19-2007, 02:10
That is good news. One of the best features of this game is the team system, even though it used to be sadly ignored or abused by many players when the game had just come out. Nothing beats a few rounds of BF2 with an alert squad, a good squad leader and and a good mix of skills.
The two servers I play on mostly (they're Karkand only, but still lots of fun) are [ISI] Christian and THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE (Run by =HOG= Clan). The people there tend to be older, use VoIP (I wish my microphone worked), and join squads. Very fun games in all. ~:)
Sergeant rank today, unlocked the next medic and sniper upgrades.
Hey Maniac...
Just link the fellars to your online stats: http://www.bf2stats.nl/player/115135805/
I too was 1a regular player (if an hour every other day can be regarded as regular).
Adrian II
11-23-2007, 12:30
The two servers I play on mostly (they're Karkand only, but still lots of fun) are [ISI] Christian and THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE (Run by =HOG= Clan). The people there tend to be older, use VoIP (I wish my microphone worked), and join squads. Very fun games in all. ~:)Karkand is great fun, but only for individual kills, not for squad action. Most American squads on Karkand maps blindly charge into town while Arab squads blindly charge out of it, and both usually get stuck in the nade wars at the town's narrow entrance. Arab squads have more room for maneuver as long as the American side has the initiative and reaches into town to, say, the market place. Anyway I prefer to snipe and tank-kill on Karkand servers. My ideal squad map is Dragon Valley, where you can use choppers, the frontline is constantly shifting so you can recap flags and raise your score all the time, and where including hardware like tanks and apc's in your squad really pays off. Happy boombooms, Maniac.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-24-2007, 03:09
Karkand is great fun, but only for individual kills, not for squad action. Most American squads on Karkand maps blindly charge into town while Arab squads blindly charge out of it, and both usually get stuck in the nade wars at the town's narrow entrance. Arab squads have more room for maneuver as long as the American side has the initiative and reaches into town to, say, the market place. Anyway I prefer to snipe and tank-kill on Karkand servers. My ideal squad map is Dragon Valley, where you can use choppers, the frontline is constantly shifting so you can recap flags and raise your score all the time, and where including hardware like tanks and apc's in your squad really pays off. Happy boombooms, Maniac.
Not with =HOG=. Their server has a lot of squads from various clans, and it's really great to work together, especially in the factory area of town, and in the suburbs. The [ISI] server is very individual, but =HOG= is not.
EDIT: It's Infantry-Only Karkand, so that helps.
Hey Maniac...
Just link the fellars to your online stats: http://www.bf2stats.nl/player/115135805/
Yep, I know, I just like posting achievements here. My stats are on BF2tracker.com.
Gulf of Oman and Operation Clean Sweep are two my favorite maps, lots of actions on ground and air. I usually play at single player (with or without 64 SP mod) before I finally got a decent internet connection.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-24-2007, 04:10
Yes, Gulf of Oman is a lot of fun.
Marshal Murat
11-26-2007, 04:37
Karkand is insane with the grenade spam at the hotel area.
I like Gulf of Oman and Songhua Stalemate. Makes me feel like I'm in 'Nam.
Kekvit Irae
11-26-2007, 04:59
I lost my imaginary friend in 'Nam. He was charging up Hill 152 with Sgt Fluffykins and Cpl Wuzzlenuzzle when they were cut down by machine gun fire. :(
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-26-2007, 05:01
Karkand is insane with the grenade spam at the hotel area.
It usually cools down after the first few minutes, when the street fighting starts.
Kekvit Irae
11-26-2007, 05:04
It usually cools down after the first few minutes, when the street fighting starts.
Grenade spam almost never calms down at the hotel, especially when someone is defending the flag. The only time it really calms down is when the flag is captured, or attention is diverted to another flag when someone snuck in behind.
Adrian II
11-26-2007, 09:10
The [ISI] server is very individual, but =HOG= is not.
EDIT: It's Infantry-Only Karkand, so that helps.I saw that when I checked it out. It's a pity since Adrian II loves the sound of tearing armour. To each his own (death).
I hope they will one day improve on the squad system by awarding extra points for squad action, thus forcing people to work together. One huge improvement would be if all squad members were given full flag capping points. You could leave one squaddie next to the flag and the others could take up positions around the village to recon, provide cover and pick off enemy stragglers.
I mean, BF2 is a tactical game, and it defies the most basic principle of tactics that all members of a squad now have to clutter around the flag and just 'sit' there in order to 'defend' it. Even Stone Age warriors knew better than that.:yes:
Kekvit Irae
11-26-2007, 10:32
I don't think Stone Age warriors had access to frag grenades and claymores. :tongueg:
Adrian II
11-26-2007, 12:36
I don't think Stone Age warriors had access to frag grenades and claymores. :tongueg:Apart from those, nuttin much has changed, now has it? ~;)
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-26-2007, 21:54
Grenade spam almost never calms down at the hotel, especially when someone is defending the flag. The only time it really calms down is when the flag is captured, or attention is diverted to another flag when someone snuck in behind.
Maybe it's just the server I play on, but 'nade spam at the Hotel at Karkand usually is extremely intense for the first five minutes (next to impossible to move at all, or even spawn), but usually dies down except in one or two allyways by the hotel, where it becomes manageable, though it never disappears.
Adrian II
11-26-2007, 22:46
Maybe it's just the server I play on, but 'nade spam at the Hotel at Karkand usually is extremely intense for the first five minutes (next to impossible to move at all, or even spawn), but usually dies down except in one or two allyways by the hotel, where it becomes manageable, though it never disappears.In many Karkand battles it simply never dies down. Makes me wonder how the guys involved score points, and how those points relate to their death ratio. :inquisitive:
Anyway, the nade wars are usually confined to the area that stretches from the enclosure at the town's entrance to the alleys around the hotel. Occasionally an American grenade drops onto the hotel terrace - which sucks if you are an Arab AT hiding up there waiting to pick off American armour.
However, once you come to understand this ebb and flow around the hotel, you will have great pickings as an AT or sniper.
EDIT
One thing though: keep moving, moving, moving. After a few rounds of Karkand your left hand should be numb. :yes:
Warluster
11-27-2007, 07:11
I am getting BF2 this afternoon, I am going to try some Single Player maps before I get into MP.
What advice do you have for the overall game(MP)?
Kekvit Irae
11-27-2007, 09:59
1. Join a squad.
2. Keep Squad Leader alive.
3. If Squad Leader dies, grab the nearest Medic kit and revive him.
4. ???
5. PROFIT
Adrian II
11-27-2007, 13:27
What advice do you have for the overall game(MP)?I would say:
1. start an SP game and learn the basics
2. join an MP server and experiment with your settings until you can move without lag (watch that ping) or loss of detail
3. learn to die in MP :embarassed:
3. learn to survive in MP :2thumbsup:
4. try to master at least one skill (medic, engineer, sniping and anti-tank are the most useful)
5. learn how to drive land vehicles
6. THEN join a squad
7. in between games you should create a private server with a large map, preferably Dragon Valley, Gulf of Oman or Zatar Wetlands, and try to master either choppers or jets -- you are going to need those skills, but if you train them in live games your buddies are going to be p***** off no end...
Search the Web for tweaking, skills and gameplay guides, if you can't find them I will post some links here (I am away from my game computer right now).
Oh, and welcome to the club, Warluster. Happy hunting! :balloon2:
EDIT
And heed Kekvit Irae's advice, particularly keeping your squad leader alive, since you can always spawn on him or her (women are few and far between in this game, but I have had some excellent female squad leaders) but they can't spawn on you.
Kekvit Irae
11-27-2007, 14:04
Microphones are vital pieces of equipment when you are a squad leader or a squad member. It takes vital seconds away from moving/shooting to type out a message, but it takes nothing to speak. Listen to your squad members and squad leaders; saying "Sniper on the tower" takes less time than hitting Q and trying to line up the crosshairs exactly (something you should do anyway, regardless of having a microphone or not- it adds the enemy to your team's radar).
And for gods sake, if a commander tells you to do something, DO IT! They have more information on the battlefield and enemies than you do, thanks to UAV placement, extreme map zoom which reveals enemies, and radar scan.
Microphones are vital pieces of equipment when you are a squad leader or a squad member. It takes vital seconds away from moving/shooting to type out a message, but it takes nothing to speak. Listen to your squad members and squad leaders; saying "Sniper on the tower" takes less time than hitting Q and trying to line up the crosshairs exactly (something you should do anyway, regardless of having a microphone or not- it adds the enemy to your team's radar).
And for gods sake, if a commander tells you to do something, DO IT! They have more information on the battlefield and enemies than you do, thanks to UAV placement, extreme map zoom which reveals enemies, and radar scan.
Good advice...
Although... I find it hard to understand what anyone says on the European servers. The US ones just have too high pings. I once had an American squad leader and it was an all new game.
You will find that very few use mics on the servers in Europe (I am one of them). If you get yourself into a game with a lot of german or dutch talk, you'll leave soon. Heck, I even have problems with my own countrymen or should I say 14 year old contrymen.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-27-2007, 21:55
Support is very good for points on city maps. Just spam ammo packs EVERYWHERE. The points come rolling in.
Microphones are vital pieces of equipment when you are a squad leader or a squad member.
My microphone isn't working with my new computer. It makes things so tedious.
Adrian II
11-28-2007, 21:38
This for Warluster:
1. The top 10 tweaks for lag reduction (http://bf2lag.com/top5tips.html)
2. SecretsOfBattlefield.com (http://www.secretsofbattlefield.com/)
:bow:
Have anyone ever been base attacked (a.k.a baseloving) ?
Adrian II
12-09-2007, 12:10
Have anyone ever been base attacked (a.k.a baseAIDS) ?Yeah, and I have done it myself, too, because some servers allow it. It doesn't feel right, you feel part of a firing squad. But the game does not allow for ceasefires or surrenders. If you don't kill spawning enemies, they will kill you.
Bob the Insane
12-10-2007, 21:36
Have anyone ever been base attacked (a.k.a baselol) ?
I figure that both sides start even, maps are pretty balanced so will paraticipate...
However if the server specifical bans it I can do that too...
A figure a baseball (nasty term) is punishment for yourside's teamwork being abysmal...
I mean, even under those conditions a good squad leader can get out and start causing havoc in the enemies rear while most of the enemy vehicles are point farming at your base...
Kekvit Irae
12-10-2007, 23:23
I'd like to remind everyone of my stance on the word 'rape': don't say it, at least not here. Even if it's in the context of gaming lexicon, I wont allow it on in the Arena.
Adrian II
12-10-2007, 23:37
I mean, even under those conditions a good squad leader can get out and start causing havoc in the enemies rear while most of the enemy vehicles are point farming at your base...I remember some pretty hopeless scenes on aircraft carriers though...
Very difficult to get off a carrier when you're in a bunny shoot, let alone find a hiding spot on land, regroup and get things going again.
Sometimes the squad leader can grab a plane and parachute over a good spot, then wait for his squad to spawn on him. In fact any squaddie can do this, as long as the squad members above him briefly leave the squad and get back in, so the squaddie who escaped becomes squad leader and all the others can spawn on him.
*Feels like a BF2 Academy instructor :laugh4: *
Evil_Maniac From Mars
12-10-2007, 23:49
I remember some pretty hopeless scenes on aircraft carriers though...
Very difficult to get off a carrier when you're in a bunny shoot, let alone find a hiding spot on land, regroup and get things going again.
Sometimes the squad leader can grab a plane and parachute over a good spot, then wait for his squad to spawn on him. In fact any squaddie can do this, as long as the squad members above him briefly leave the squad and get back in, so the squaddie who escaped becomes squad leader and all the others can spawn on him.
*Feels like a BF2 Academy instructor :laugh4: *
I find that the problem with people on carriers isn't that there is a problem, in itself, getting off the carrier, but that people try to wait around for the aircraft instead of hopping in the boats and driving to land.
Bob the Insane
12-11-2007, 00:26
I find that the problem with people on carriers isn't that there is a problem, in itself, getting off the carrier, but that people try to wait around for the aircraft instead of hopping in the boats and driving to land.
Well the boats are easy kills for tanks or even the MGs mounted on jeeps...
It does demonstrate that an amphibious assault without air dominance is extremely hard. The power plant map was a real case in point, if the US fighters and attack choppers couldn't at least keep the enemy aircraft busy then the landing would be horrible...
Wake was much the same although there was more scope for sneaking around in boats there...
Ramses II CP
12-11-2007, 01:25
Yes, the problem with Wake Island in particular was attempted aircraft whoring to a large extent. The other one with a carrier (Dragon something?) was much better because there was a helo on the mainland, so any airwhore who didn't get one on the carrier immediately ran for that one. Err, and I think there was a third one with a carrier that also had a helo right out on the coast.
Obviously I haven't played in forever but my personal policy was to try never to get into a Wake Island game in the middle. If I got there at the start I could make it onto the island and do some damage, but if you pop in during the fight you're last in line for an aircraft and all you can do while waiting is die.
:egypt:
Kekvit Irae
12-11-2007, 02:09
Well the boats are easy kills for tanks or even the MGs mounted on jeeps...
I have never run into that problem before, especially on Wake when every Chinese player makes a dash for a tank or a plane. Besides, no decent driver would ever drive in a straight line, especially when there are enemy flyboys on the prowl or tanks on the ridgeline. The vets usually know to stay as far away from the island as possible until they get in behind. Newbies or those with death wishes usually drive straight for the island or into the bay.
Ok... let's discuss.
What constitutes a base****?
Would a sniper lying under the plane wreck on Wake Island, shooting new spawned players on the little island or the hangar ship be such a perpetrator?
Would the Chinese forces, having pushed the US back onto the hangar ship in Dragon valley, shooting at spawning players with all armour and choppers be such a perpetrator?
I know when playing as commander, it is unsportsmanlike to drop artillery on the unconquerable bases.
Or are we simply talking about stealing the other team’s equipment found in an unconquerable base?
Adrian II
12-11-2007, 13:21
I find that the problem with people on carriers isn't that there is a problem, in itself, getting off the carrier, but that people try to wait around for the aircraft instead of hopping in the boats and driving to land.With all due respect I assume you have never been the victim of Chinese ÜberChoppers on a Dalian or Dragon map. If they're really good, they pop off the funny little boats while they're still in the carrier bay.
Heck, I've seen one hovering stationary in the carrier bay with the gunner picking off just about everyone down there including my Commander. :skull: :embarassed:
Which sometimes made you wonder whether they "used hack"...
But really, the server had just began the new round, and suddenly you discovered all 'conquerable bases' belong to the enemy. I mean, what happened? (note: I am referring to the map like Dalian, Daqing and Zatar Wetlands)
2 Things!
First: Karkand is the best!!
Second: ...I AM GETTING HIGHSPEED!! :P
That means that by Christmas I will be owning online! :beam: BeautyField2 here I come!! :P
Adrian II
12-11-2007, 17:21
Which sometimes made you wonder whether they "used hack"...I don't know about the 'all your base are belong to us' hack at the start of a round, never experienced it. But I do know that most chopper tricks require no hacks, only skill. I can make a chopper hover inside a carrier bay myself, but not long enough to make it pay off. I can do loopings, slides, ducks, twisters around a ground target. I don't have a steady gunner though, and I'm still not good enough. Good chopper gunners and pilots are worth their XP in gold. I always prefer to have them inside my team peeing out, than outside my team peeing in. :dizzy2:
Bob the Insane
12-11-2007, 17:48
I often found an uberfast machine and good connection a real advantage in BF2...
Unless the server has like a 30 second plus wait between maps/rounds then (at least for the first round) you could get something a 20 second head start on those with slower computers that were still loading the map...
More than enough time to get a lot of bases...
Anyone here ever considered an Org clan?
Kekvit Irae
12-13-2007, 02:04
Anyone here ever considered an Org clan?
Yes. Many times over.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
12-13-2007, 04:54
With all due respect I assume you have never been the victim of Chinese ÜberChoppers on a Dalian or Dragon map. If they're really good, they pop off the funny little boats while they're still in the carrier bay.
Heck, I've seen one hovering stationary in the carrier bay with the gunner picking off just about everyone down there including my Commander. :skull: :embarassed:
I was talking about Wake and the Gulf of Oman, when air superiority has either been established or when the aircraft are too busy duelling to notice what's happening on the ground. People just stay, hoping to get an attack aircraft, when those who dare to take a boat are actually making it.
And if a chopper can do that, blame your carrier gunner for letting them get that close.
Yes. Many times over.
lol, I figured that. The only BattleField game that I could play online was 1942 because I had a 56k. I belonged to a modding group and we wanted to start our own clan, so we became the "Shadow Warriors" and didn't wear tags or anything so that people wouldn't know that we were a unified clan and concentrate on us. Several of the guys served in the military and we tried to use real military tactics, but they didn't do too well in BF. :P We were pretty kick ass, but no one plays anymore. :P
I will see if I can't put our clan back together in BF2...if rl doesn't get in the way. :P
Abokasee
12-13-2007, 21:29
Good news! BF2 working again! :beam: , one problem, slightly jumpy, not good when fighting snipers or support :sad2:
Adrian II
12-14-2007, 15:08
And if a chopper can do that, blame your carrier gunner for letting them get that close.It's no use blaming a non-existent AA gunner. Nobody wants to be that gunner, to be a sitting duck for five minutes and lose ten or fifteen lives in order help others fight back, make kills and rack up their scores.
As I said above, the problem with BF2 is that it does not reward team work. There are no extra points for the winning army, none for succesful cooperation. It is evey man for himself. This is why jetwhores and other griefers can thrive.
That's why it is so hard to get off those carriers once the Chinese poo starts flying. This goes for Wake, too. Once the Chinese control it from end to end, they will mass on the two island tips and shoot anything incoming. I did so myself, made twenty-five kills with a tank hidden in some woods near the northern tip.:yes:
Bob the Insane
12-14-2007, 16:06
But this is not an unstopable event...
If the US team does work together it is possible to beat the chinese back and win...
I do agree with the whole winning and lossing does not matter points wise thing. Only the commander gets a points boost from victory. But if you do give a points boost for victory then the reality is that towards the end of the match you are going to see people dropping out of the losing team to try and get on the winning one... Even more annoying would be if you had spent the entire match on the winning team only to bounced to the lossing team near the end of match as a part of team balancing because people are leaving the losing team in floods.
There are points for teamwork... Kill assists, medi packs, ammo packs, repairing, driving transport vehicles, etc...
I am wondering how do you create a rewards system for real teamwork that can't be abused or will not negatively impact gameplay...
Adrian II
12-14-2007, 16:43
But if you do give a points boost for victory then the reality is that towards the end of the match you are going to see people dropping out of the losing team to try and get on the winning one... Even more annoying would be if you had spent the entire match on the winning team only to bounced to the lossing team near the end of match as a part of team balancing because people are leaving the losing team in floods.One word: PunkBuster. The PB software that's already in place can be applied to simply filter for switchers, based on IP. Those who quit a losing side keep their K/D scores up to that moment, but they are not allowed to switch to the other team during that round.
EDIT
Alternatively, use a rule from WolfTeam. If you quit during online gameplay, you lose 100 Gold, whereas you get at least 125 Gold for staying regardless of win or lose. In WT Gold pays for your weapons upgrades. It is not much of a penalty to some, but it sure keeps a lid on defections.
I am wondering how do you create a rewards system for real teamwork that can't be abused or will not negatively impact gameplay...There have been countless workable suggestions on BF2 forums. I don't think we should go into the technicalities here. The real problem is not the software, it is that EA don't care.. :shame:
Marshal Murat
12-16-2007, 01:43
Definitely going to play BF2 again.
Catiline
12-19-2007, 18:40
I intend to fire BF2 up tomorrow for the first time in ages. should be fun...
ICantSpellDawg
12-19-2007, 19:02
I just bought it last week after playing BF: Vietnam for years
I love the Commander/Squad system.
Why don't we make a clan of orgahs? (edit: I see that Vok said that already) I'm personally into organization, so I'm game to take orders or give them.
I'm currently playing as: (CJM) TuffStuffMcGruff
I just bought it last week after playing BF: Vietnam for years
I love the Commander/Squad system.
Why don't we make a clan of orgahs? (edit: I see that Vok said that already) I'm personally into organization, so I'm game to take orders or give them.
I'm currently playing as: (CJM) TuffStuffMcGruff
*Vuk* :P just found out that he can't play BF2 online. :P My ping is always so high that I am kicked from servers. I will need an even faster connection. :P
well if someone does start up a clan, I'll certainly join it.
Bob the Insane
12-19-2007, 23:01
I was looking up widescreen and BF2 and found this:
"C:\Games\Battlefield 2\BF2.exe" +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +szx 1440 +szy 900
So i am going to try it for my system:
"C:\Games\Battlefield 2\BF2.exe" +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +szx 1680 +szy 1050
I'll let you all know if it works...
I will check this out too:
http://imk.cx/pc/widescreenfixer/
I upgraded my connection to 512 and tried some BF2 games. I had no problem with lag, but PB keeps kicking me for "losing key packets".
???????????????????????????????????????????????
Anyone know what that means? :P
:help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:
Bob the Insane
12-20-2007, 01:37
AAArrrrgggghhhh....
Can't find the manual!! No CD Key!!!
@#$%!!!
Ramses II CP
12-20-2007, 03:24
Do the tests at DSLReports (http://www.dslreports.com under Tools) Vuk, in particular the tweak test and line quality test. Should help you figure out where the issue is. BF2 is a little sensitive to packet loss because of the cheating issues, but not as bad as some more modern games.
:egypt:
What the heck is packet loss? :P
What the heck is packet loss? :P
The game and the server send data packets to eachother and if one doesn't arrive due to certain circumstances, that's a packet loss.
Mikeus Caesar
12-20-2007, 06:07
When my PC arrives in February, i shall most definitely be reinstalling BF2. This thread has brought back good memories of being in armoured convoys on Highway Tampa, and everyone shooting into the sky as an enemy aircraft comes in to strafe us.
Damn i miss this game.
ICantSpellDawg
12-20-2007, 18:46
I've just downloaded the patches:
Forgotten Hope 2
Project Reality
Point of Resistance 2
Please, somebody start a clan of sorts
What should the prefix be? (Orgah), [orgah], [O.R.G.], [TW.O] ?
I think we can start it by choosing a prefix and adding it.
I've just downloaded the patches:
Forgotten Hope 2
Project Reality
Point of Resistance 2
Please, somebody start a clan of sorts
What should the prefix be? (Orgah), [orgah], [O.R.G.], [TW.O] ?
I think we can start it by choosing a prefix and adding it.
How about OrGAHsm? ~:flirt: :wink: :gorgeous:
Bob the Insane
12-23-2007, 23:52
Well got me a new copy of Battlefield 2 Collection so will be up and running soon...
"C:\Games\Battlefield 2\BF2.exe" +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +szx 1680 +szy 1050
Altered for the correct path appears to work just fine in the shortcut...
Evil_Maniac From Mars
01-26-2008, 23:49
I hate to bring a dead thread back to life, but I just won my first Gold Star!
https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2805/goldstardt2.png
Dutch_guy
01-27-2008, 15:04
Good job, EMFM.
I remember my first gold star, I was accused of hacking multiple times during the fight because I was nailing enemy after enemy with my G3 and FS2000. Was nearly voted out of the server (Karkand, go figure) because one particular MOC soldier had the knack of putting his head in front of my US bullets every time we met.
:balloon2:
Winning Gold is easier if you play as commander...
I have gold 9 times with the rank of Sergeant (http://bf2s.com/player/73561432/)
Adrian II
01-28-2008, 12:01
Winning Gold is easier if you play as commander...
I have gold 9 times with the rank of Sergeant (http://bf2s.com/player/73561432/)Interesting. (http://bf2s.com/player/99977962/)Two sergeants with a predilection for Dragon and Spec Ops. You snipe a lot as well, which I find boring. My favourite is anti-tank which probably sux to you. We both hate Assault... :laugh4:
Interesting. (http://bf2s.com/player/99977962/)Two sergeants with a predilection for Dragon and Spec Ops. You snipe a lot as well, which I find boring. My favourite is anti-tank which probably sux to you. We both hate Assault... :laugh4:
I like this feature:
Compare players (http://bf2s.com/compare/115135805,99977962,73561432)
I like vehicles and especially the anti-air ones. It was in one of those I got my kill streak.
I really do enjoy taking down chopper after chopper.. until you run into the über-pilot that launches the TOW from above and beyond visual range.
Concerning the kits, yes Spec-ops is a good kit if you play leadership roles.. and I do like the bang-bags. :2thumbsup:
I guess I have played sniper, anti-tank and support about equally; can't say which I prefer.
Why 16 hours on the Engineer Adrian?
Evil_Maniac From Mars
01-28-2008, 19:11
I think my Command Badge is bugged. I have 134 command points, and no basic command badge. Do they all have to be in one round?
http://bf2s.com/player/115135805/
NOTE: Those kicks are all to make room for =HOG= Clan members or because my ping was too high (when I was having trouble with the router/Internet).
I think my Command Badge is bugged. I have 134 command points, and no basic command badge. Do they all have to be in one round?
You have to play continuously as a commander for at least 25 minutes to receive the command badge.
Ok .. that is for the veteran badge... You need 40 points In A Round
NOTE: Those kicks are all to make room for =HOG= Clan members or because my ping was too high (when I was having trouble with the router/Internet).
That is what we all say... :sweatdrop:
Evil_Maniac From Mars
01-28-2008, 20:31
That is what we all say... :sweatdrop:
It's true. I only really play on two or three servers, and the only time I talk or type is to communicate with squad leader. I never punish for a TK unless it's been done at least twice intentionally. Cursing and swearing is a waste of time I could use for virtual killing.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
01-28-2008, 21:06
You have to play continuously as a commander for at least 25 minutes to receive the command badge.
Ok .. that is for the veteran badge... You need 40 points In A Round
That is what we all say... :sweatdrop:
I got 48 points in the last round (doubled from 24 because we won), and I didn't get the badge. That's 220 total points and one hour total playing time as commander.
I got 48 points in the last round (doubled from 24 because we won), and I didn't get the badge. That's 220 total points and one hour total playing time as commander.
I could be wrong, but I think you need 40 points before the endgame doubling. (i.e. 80 total)
Evil_Maniac From Mars
01-28-2008, 21:15
I could be wrong, but I think you need 40 points before the endgame doubling. (i.e. 80 total)
Oh, I see. In that case, my best is thirty eight before doubling.
:wall:
Adrian II
02-01-2008, 14:06
Why 16 hours on the Engineer Adrian?That's an easy one. I often play Engineer or Anti-Tank when I'm in a squad, and I like Armor as well. In a typical squad cap scene you'd see the squad leader tending to the wounded, the Anti-Tank and Assault guys guarding the entrance and LilBogomil repairing any Armor or vehicles near the flag. :yes:
I never punish for a TK unless it's been done at least twice intentionally. Cursing and swearing is a waste of time I could use for virtual killing.Exactly my sentiment (and attitude).
Evil_Maniac From Mars
02-05-2008, 03:46
I got the Basic Helicopter and Aviator, now it's time for AA and Transport badges.
Kekvit Irae
02-05-2008, 03:58
Sadly, the only way I'd be able to get Basic Air and Heli is if I hitch a ride with someone REALLY good. I have no skill with air units.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
02-05-2008, 04:16
Sadly, the only way I'd be able to get Basic Air and Heli is if I hitch a ride with someone REALLY good. I have no skill with air units.
Just go on a near-empty ranked server and fly around or hover. You can probably even leave the chopper on the ground while you do something else for a bit. Also, it makes great practice to go on a, say, ten player server and mess around. ~:)
Sadly, the only way I'd be able to get Basic Air and Heli is if I hitch a ride with someone REALLY good. I have no skill with air units.
Better yet... start a local server and train on your flying skills on the 64 player maps with no one around. I would recommend Dragon Valley or FuShe pass or even Kubra Dam. The choppers react slighly different with the Cobra the most sensitive.
Even though you get good playing on the empty maps, it is a whole other experience with bullets flying around your ears.
Sadly, the only way I'd be able to get Basic Air and Heli is if I hitch a ride with someone REALLY good. I have no skill with air units.
lol, practice. I cannot do large MP battles as my connection is not up to it, but I distance-LAN with my bros and we practice there. I used to be no good at all, but now have gotten to the point where I can solo fly and shoot a jet out of the air or a man on the ground with a rocket. I am also pretty good at evasives, but don't know how I would fare with the massive onslaughts and lag in a full MP game, lol.
Helos are the best part of the game. Jets just stink. :beam: (I can't do twiddle with a jet, lol)
I can't do twiddle with a jet
True.. you need a Joystick for jets.
Does BF2 allow joysticks? I thought that you couldn't use them, lol.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
02-05-2008, 22:30
True.. you need a Joystick for jets.
Really? I've got my Logitech hooked up (for the flight sims), but I've never used it with BF2. I always use keyboard and mouse.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
02-05-2008, 22:32
By the way, which buttons would one use to control where the missile in the weapons control seat of the helicopter is looking?
Evil_Maniac From Mars
02-06-2008, 00:09
I just got my Basic AA and Engineer Badges, my last two that I needed. Now the Command Badge is my last badge on the to-do list.
EDIT: Actually, I still need the Basic Transport. Forgot about that.
Does BF2 allow joysticks? I thought that you couldn't use them, lol.
Really? I've got my Logitech hooked up (for the flight sims), but I've never used it with BF2. I always use keyboard and mouse.
:beam: ... you can customize the controls for every vehicle in the game... Just choose Joystick for the chopper and jets and leave the others.
By the way, which buttons would one use to control where the missile in the weapons control seat of the helicopter is looking?
As I said above.. when you have chosen Joystick for your control... change the specific actions on the chopper/jet with the appropriate buttons on the joystick. You can even leave some of the actions as is (Keyboard)...
[edit] There is no need to make a detailed guide of how to customize... it is really easy.
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