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why are they called Bosphorian when the Bosphorus is 500km further to the south, with no relation to the Scythian lands?
Malik of Sindh
11-06-2007, 18:32
I don't get it.Have you heard of a kindom called Bosphorus,in crimea?
nope...
so that kingdom predates the Bosphorus straits, in name?
also, a quick internet search shows that the orgin of Bosphorus might be Greek for 'ox-strait' or Thracian for something glowing.
Malik of Sindh
11-06-2007, 18:41
Check the map of Asia ton barbaron,link is in my sig.It shows position of Bosphorus,these archers were pretty good troops of KoC Bosphorus.
ahh, the generally accepted English spelling for that Crimean kingdom seems to be Bosporan. Clearly derived from the same Greek word however, meaning strait. I used to live in Istanbul, so...a little confused when I saw Bosphoran troops coming from Scythia. I knew about the later use of Bosporan(Crimean one) troops by the Kiev-Rus, but was not aware that the same people were around in ancient times. Good stuff.
L.C.Cinna
11-06-2007, 19:10
There is a so called "Thracian Bosporus" which is the one at Byzantion and the "Cimmerian Bosporus" which is the Strait of Kertch.
keravnos
11-06-2007, 19:31
why are they called Bosphorian when the Bosphorus is 500km further to the south, with no relation to the Scythian lands?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosporan_Kingdom
Even if the correct transliteration would be Bosphoran
http://www.pontos.dk/research/ra_7
theres another good link
L.C.Cinna
11-06-2007, 22:11
Even if the correct transliteration would be Bosphoran
hmmm it should actually be Bosporan without h because the greek word is written with Π (pi) not with Φ (phi)...
Malik of Sindh
11-06-2007, 22:13
Im pretty sure its Bosphorus.Anyway,wikipedia says it can be called both.
Megas Methuselah
11-07-2007, 00:13
Wikipedia isn't God...
:uneasy:
pezhetairoi
11-07-2007, 00:20
For a generally accepted spelling, I sure have never seen Bosporan as a spelling until it was posted on this thread. I've always known it as Bosphorus.
Pharnakes
11-07-2007, 00:37
Well, Keravnos says its Bosphorus, therfore it is. The EB gods have spoken!
Wikipedia isn't God...
:uneasy:
But the other link is from a respected university.
pseudocaesar
11-07-2007, 03:41
Roma Surrectum has the Kingdom of Cimmerian Bosporus in it! :P Nothing like shameless advertising in another mods forum.:beam:
Spelling aside, if you can train them then do! :yes:
keravnos
11-07-2007, 08:44
Well, Keravnos says its Bosphorus, therfore it is. The EB gods have spoken!
Thanks a lot, but...
Seriously guys, don't! :dizzy2:
-we 're all friends here,
-none is above all others,
-none is infallible
I pride myself not in being correct all the time, but in fixing what I did wrong.
Let me look into this and I will start a thread later as to why it should be Bosporan or Bosphoran.
I fear that without meaning to, I have helped a "simple mistake" keep on living, much like the "hoplon" shield, which never existed. (It is "aspis" shield, "hoplon"=weapon(generic name for any weapon)
I fear that without meaning to, I have helped a "simple mistake" keep on living, much like the "hoplon" shield, which never existed. (It is "aspis" shield, "hoplon"=weapon(generic name for any weapon)
Innit like a "one size fits all" description for all tools of war, including weapons, shields and perhaps even armor? That's the quarterpounder explanation I heard anyhow :idea2:
Pharnakes
11-07-2007, 12:48
Thanks a lot, but...
Seriously guys, don't! :dizzy2:
-we 're all friends here,
-none is above all others,
-none is infallible
I pride myself not in being correct all the time, but in fixing what I did wrong.
Let me look into this and I will start a thread later as to why it should be Bosporan or Bosphoran.
I fear that without meaning to, I have helped a "simple mistake" keep on living, much like the "hoplon" shield, which never existed. (It is "aspis" shield, "hoplon"=weapon(generic name for any weapon)
You already explained it in the AtB thread, I think.
L.C.Cinna
11-07-2007, 13:04
Let me look into this and I will start a thread later as to why it should be Bosporan or Bosphoran.
would be interesting. i see no reason to use a "ph" although some, like english and french speakers, use it...
the original surely doesn't.
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