Marian Reform Q.

[Xehh II]

According to the FAQ the reqs. are to:

-At least the year 172BC
-Have more than 6 Latifundia built in Italy
-Hold at least 45 settlements
-Fight more than 250 battles
-Have a character that is:
Sharp/Charismatic/Vigorous
Popularis
Consul or Ex-Consul
Has Influence > 2
Has Command > 2
OR
-Conquer 90 settlements.

Latifundia were the best level farming in Vanilla RTW IIRC but it seems to have changed in EB so could someone tell me what Latifundia in EB are?

[Emperor Burakuku]

It looks like a vineyard and it takes 12 turns to built. First you need to built the villa I think, which takes 6 turns and it also might require some farming level before it can be built. And yes, you need 6 of them in the peninsula.

[iamphet]

According to Build_Tree_Romani in your EB installation it is the next level of Villae Rusticae, which is the next level of Ager Divisus et Assignatus :)

[glouch]

wait a minute. so how does the AI get the marian reforms?!?!?! there's no way it's smart enough to accomplish all of those requirements >.<

[Shadowwalker]

"...OR just conquer 90 settlements".
That something the AI could handle, I believe. :yes:

[bovi]

I don't think I've ever seen the AI conquer anywhere near 90 settlements.

[overweightninja]

wait a minute. so how does the AI get the marian reforms?!?!?! there's no way it's smart enough to accomplish all of those requirements >.<

I've never seen the AI advance past Polybian reforms in a campaign.

[QwertyMIDX]

IIRC if you get to a set year in the campaign AI Rome will automatically get the reforms.

[Bellum]

I don't think I've ever seen the AI conquer anywhere near 90 settlements.

In about 24 years, the Romans in my campaign have managed to take 1 (rebel) settlement. *sigh*

[Pharnakes]

Latifundia were the best level farming in Vanilla RTW IIRC but it seems to have changed in EB so could someone tell me what Latifundia in EB are?


Briliant, Xehh II, how many months playing eb, and you still don't know what Latifundia are?

I'm delighted to see this:2thumbsup:

DEATH TO ROMANS:smash:


BTW, I really am not being sarcastic, I am trully deligthed to see there is an eber who hasn't even tried the romans untill now, I have to confess that not even I have had the sterngth for such an honurable accoplishment. :bow:

[Kahju]

I've been playing EB since 0.8 came out, and I've never even considered playing as the Romans. I have tried them out in custom battles, but that's about it. Romans simply do not interest me. For the record, I've played longish campaigns with every faction except for SPQR, AS and Makedonia.

[Xehh II]

I've been playing EB for about half a year and this is my first serious Rome campaign. I've only just got the Polybian Reforms and I've already got most of the Marian reqs. apart from the Latifundia and 250 battles, damn, how do you get 250 battles?

[pseudocaesar]

Briliant, Xehh II, how many months playing eb, and you still don't know what Latifundia are?

I'm delighted to see this:2thumbsup:

DEATH TO ROMANS:smash:


BTW, I really am not being sarcastic, I am trully deligthed to see there is an eber who hasn't even tried the romans untill now, I have to confess that not even I have had the sterngth for such an honurable accoplishment. :bow:

Its sort of becoming the opposite, everyone bags out Roman fanboys, but there are now more Roman haters than Roman lovers, everyone on EB bags out Roman fans and calls us noobs etc. I dont understand why, the Romans are awesome as a race and have a great history, so there is no inherent reason why anyone should hate them.

[Titus Manlius Imperiosus]

Its sort of becoming the opposite, everyone bags out Roman fanboys, but there are now more Roman haters than Roman lovers, everyone on EB bags out Roman fans and calls us noobs etc. I dont understand why, the Romans are awesome as a race and have a great history, so there is no inherent reason why anyone should hate them.


You know, they suffer from envy... it is such a bad thing :beam: [ joking ]

[Mr Durian]

The requirements for the Marian and Augustun reforms seem impossible. It shouldn't this hard to get the reforms. Is there a way to alter the script so after a certain year the reforms automatically happen?

How does a character get the popularis trait? And it seems I do not have any consuls....

[Pharnakes]

Its sort of becoming the opposite, everyone bags out Roman fanboys, but there are now more Roman haters than Roman lovers, everyone on EB bags out Roman fans and calls us noobs etc. I dont understand why, the Romans are awesome as a race and have a great history, so there is no inherent reason why anyone should hate them.

I don't like empires, and I especialy don't like roman empires. Look what they did to my poor likle Pontus ~:mecry:

And they allied with the Galatians!:shocked:

[Horst Nordfink]

Its sort of becoming the opposite, everyone bags out Roman fanboys, but there are now more Roman haters than Roman lovers, everyone on EB bags out Roman fans and calls us noobs etc. I dont understand why, the Romans are awesome as a race and have a great history, so there is no inherent reason why anyone should hate them.

I'm proud to say I'm a fan of Rome. But there are other factions I like equally, such as Pontos and Makedonia.

[Mr Durian]

I've been playing EB for about half a year and this is my first serious Rome campaign. I've only just got the Polybian Reforms and I've already got most of the Marian reqs. apart from the Latifundia and 250 battles, damn, how do you get 250 battles?


Send 10 individual units of levies to fight one army each turn for 25 turns. Just automatically resolve each battle. :laugh4:

[Xehh II]

If I capture 90 settlements do I still have to fight 250 battles?

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

If I capture 90 settlements do I still have to fight 250 battles?
No.

[Megas Methuselah]

I've been playing this same campaign since EB 1.0 came out, and I've only fought 225 battles!
:beam:

[Xehh II]

That's good, conquering 90 settlements would be far easier than fighting 250 battles because so far I've only fought 30 something battles.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

When I last played a Romani campaign and got to the Marian Reforms, I think I had 400+ battles fought. Though, to be honest, the battles requirement isn't really required... :skull:

[Pharnakes]

That's good, conquering 90 settlements would be far easier than fighting 250 battles because so far I've only fought 30 something battles.


Do you really fight less than 3 battles per setlment cpatured? even including dealing with all the anoying little 1 and 2 stack rebels?

[konny]

That's good, conquering 90 settlements would be far easier than fighting 250 battles because so far I've only fought 30 something battles.

Have you been to Gaul? If not, that will solve this problem. Regardless with which faction I went there, the green and yellow death always offered me at least 100 battles.

[Bellum]

Do you really fight less than 3 battles per setlment cpatured? even including dealing with all the anoying little 1 and 2 stack rebels?

I do, usually. :/

[Lucasiewicz]

Like said before, you don't have to fight 250 battles anymore. The battle-requirement stated in the FAQ for the Marian and Imperial reforms is obsolete. I've checked the script myself to see the requirements myself.

[bovi]

Its sort of becoming the opposite, everyone bags out Roman fanboys, but there are now more Roman haters than Roman lovers, everyone on EB bags out Roman fans and calls us noobs etc. I dont understand why, the Romans are awesome as a race and have a great history, so there is no inherent reason why anyone should hate them.
What the fuck are you talking about? Show me where every EB member has "bagged out" Roman fans.

[Bava]

I dont think he meant EB members, just some of us plebs. And "everyone" is a bit exaggerated, indeed.

[Bellum]

What the fuck are you talking about? Show me where every EB member has "bagged out" Roman fans.


I think he's talking about the EB forums.

[Xehh II]

Have you been to Gaul? If not, that will solve this problem. Regardless with which faction I went there, the green and yellow death always offered me at least 100 battles.
What? I'm fighting in Gaul now and I've only had two field battles and the rest have been sieges, the Averni have been pushovers, I captured their capital and they only have two towns left and I'm just about attack the Audui proper but they're weak as well.
In fact the hardest part of my campaign was taking over iberia but in the end it was easy and once the polybian legion is trained for my Spanish rebel I'll be ready to attack Carthage.

[konny]

What? I'm fighting in Gaul now and I've only had two field battles and the rest have been sieges, the Averni have been pushovers, I captured their capital and they only have two towns left and I'm just about attack the Audui proper but they're weak as well.

Strange...

I am always bombarded with green and/or yellow stacks as soon as I set one foot across the Rhine/the Alps, with up to three or four major field battles per turn.

[sgsandor]

What the fuck are you talking about? Show me where every EB member has "bagged out" Roman fans.


I have never seen Bovi get this upset....ever.

On the other part of this post Battles start stacking up in Greece, take Thermon, thats good for 15 years of constant ass kicking goodness. (beware those gyros eating guys can kick some serious butt especially if you forces have been run ragged kudos to the KH):yes:

[Starforge]

Its sort of becoming the opposite, everyone bags out Roman fanboys, but there are now more Roman haters than Roman lovers, everyone on EB bags out Roman fans and calls us noobs etc. I dont understand why, the Romans are awesome as a race and have a great history, so there is no inherent reason why anyone should hate them.

As a Roman fan all I have to say is:

Let them hate us so long as they fear us :beam:

[bovi]

I guess "everyone on EB" doesn't necessarily mean "everyone on the EB team". It would instead generalize all of the EB team and every other forum member, which would be even worse. It's a completely false statement and has no basis anywhere.