View Full Version : Post Heroic - Big Famous Battles
Maksimus
11-11-2007, 10:00
https://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2927/philipiiko9copyor0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
POST BATTLES
You should post your battle of any EB version or mod - what matters is that it is A Battle and that it was important to you!
I think it is nice and very well accepted among players and I love looking at battles that matter in certan campaign.
Please send us picture and score with a picture of the battle itself - like message at the end or a couple of pictures of that battle...
This thread should make more popularity to some genius work (or luck) that should ecourage all players to push up the limits!
NOTE: Please specify on what battle dificulty you are playing so we can have our compass:coffeenews:
Short Instructions:
1 - Pres Print-Screen when you want to catch a moment - then PAUSE the game if in middle of the battel - them Press ALt+TAb to switch desktops... Then go to Paint program and just Ctrl+V (paste) the picture!
2 - Upload it and then copy-paste uploaded picture path here!
Maksimus
11-11-2007, 10:12
Ok.. I will post mine so all can do the same. It is my Epeiros campaign
This one is based on Alex.exe and on VH/VH and huge armies
https://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1504/rome1lm3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
This is the finall battle against Romans.. I had one Heroic infront of Rome :boxing: but don't have the picture
https://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6914/romefinall2ot2.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
And the end of the battle (fought without time limit fo 1 hour)
https://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6043/20686106na3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
and the end...
This is just an example.. I wanted to post just an battle info but I had all these so I could not resist:no:
You post now :viking:
Long lost Caesar
11-11-2007, 10:34
Year 221 BC
Difficulty-Medium
Forces-Romani and Ptolemaioi
Commanders-Julius Cornelius Blasio (Romani) and Philometer (Ptolemaioi)
Romani forces-2 Galatian swordsmen, 6 hastati (camillan) 2 hoplitai, 2 toxotai, 2 hippeis, 1 equites consulares and 4 thracian spearmen (total of 3206 men)
Ptolemaioi forces-1 general, 3 mercenary phalanxes, 3 jewish spearmen, 1 la tene clet mercenary, 2 heavy cavalry, 5 galatian swordsmen, 2 elite phalanx (total of 2996 men)
Deployment
I (Romani) was on the defensive, so i put my infantry into two lines (excluding the galatians.) i put my infantry next to a cluster of trees, where i hid my galatians in order to cut off any flankers. my hippeis were both on the right flank, my general behind the main line and the archers inbetween the two infantry lines.
Philometer had his men in double lines as well, with his heavy cavalry (cant remember the name) headed for my 'hippeis flank' (the hippeis were all on my right flank) whilst his infatry kept coming in double lines. My archers opened fire, but against heavily armoured troops didnt do much good.
The lines clash
At first the Ptolemaioi infatry clashed on my front line, and it seemed I was holding out well. But then his heavy cavalry tried to flank the unit fighting on the far end of the Hippeis flank, so i counter attacked with my own cavalry, flanking his flankers. This, along with javelins, arrows, and their distance from their general, made the cavalry break rank and flee. I pulled my cavalry back to help fight the ptolemaioi infantry, and began a major encirclement, using most of my second line to hook around the back and surround the enemy.
Things on my left flank werent going so well. At first the galatians had surprised the celtic mercenaries and jews who seemed intent on flanking my lines, but by now they were bogged down by infantry, and philometer was hurtling his own cavalry into the flank. knowing that my galatians werent cut out to deal with cavalry i sent in the hoplitai in the reserve line. that, coupled with my men stabilising, was enough to hold the line, and eventually my men managed to drag philometer from his horse and kill him. Things were looking up.
But then the right flank began to crumble, 1, 2, 5, huge numbers of units were routing, infantry and cavalry alike. Realizing that my general was about to be trapped i moved him over to the left flank, leaving the few units on the right to their fate: i knew that i couldnt hold the entire line, and the left flank was stronger. eventually the forces were reduced to pathetically small numbers: my general had only 14 men in his bodyguard, the hoplitai were reduced to 30, the galatians were nearing 70 and the only other unit, thracian spearmen, were at 150. the ptolemaioi had 120 phalanx and 300 jewish spearmen. by luck, and my own skill, i managed to encircle the units one by one and rout them, distracting the incoming jews with my hoplitai. and finally we routed the entire army.
The only thing that salted my game was that the victorious army was later annhiliated. but all the same, a great victory, which saved greece.
ross1025
11-11-2007, 11:35
a seige heroic!:2thumbsup: also my only heroic vic until now(20years past).:sweatdrop:
...how to post the picture....:sweatdrop:
Upload it to imageshack.us and you'll see a series of links underneath the picture. Post "Thumbnails for forums" 1 or 2, doesn't matter which. It'll show up as a tiny picture but we can click it to see it's full size.
You could post "Hotlink for forums" instead of thumbnail, but there'll probably be a ton of pictures in the thread so it'd be better if they were all thumbnails rather than huge pictures.
i wasn't able to take a pic of the results, but here's the battle near it's conclusion:
https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g186/uno_animo/nowheretorun.jpg
i entitle this pic "NOWHERE TO RUN.
hahaha. you know what happens next :))
p.s.
https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g186/uno_animo/Untitled-1copy-3.jpg
does anyone of you know what this unit is? i saw it on the EB site and i think it looks great.
maybe i could train some? or was this unit replaced/reskinned?
does anyone of you know what this unit is? i saw it on the EB site and i think it looks great.
maybe i could train some? or was this unit replaced/reskinned?
Good question. Its certainly not in EB 1.0/0.8x, so I had a look at the 0.74 version but couldnt find it either. Perhaps "old" standard bearers? A pike hypaspist that didnt make the cut?
The phrygian helmet/muscle cuirass/sarissa (?) combo is pretty sweet, indeed.~D
Tellos Athenaios
11-11-2007, 17:02
The unit looks like cavalry to me. Perhaps an older version of the Thessalikoi Hippeis? Hippeis Xystophoroi?
I was playing with mercenary Thessalonian cavalry last night and I think they looked like that. Or very similar.
Tellos Athenaios
11-11-2007, 19:19
Well as for Heroic victories: just had one. And in proper heroic style the game stopped working. :laugh4:
Strategos Alexandros
11-11-2007, 19:29
They are Thessalian cav.
Does anyone know what the criteria for getting a heroic victory is?
Have less than a 1:1 ratio in probability for victory and totally annihilate your opponent.
Pharnakes
11-11-2007, 19:42
They are Thessalian cav.
Does anyone know what the criteria for getting a heroic victory is?
No, I think they are xystophroi, the crest is slightly different.
A few days ago, i fought this battle. The enemys army approached at my position and their leader challanged me. However, i retreated, seeing no chance to win. But as it was on my turn i realized... i was trapped like a rat. Two smaller lusotan armies at my back, one stationed in the town, impassable mountains and a river at my sides and the massive lusotannen force in the front, blocking the way to Arsé, the next safe haven.
https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/409/eadaz6.th.jpg (https://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eadaz6.jpg)
Unable to simply pass the hostile colony and avoiding contact with the huge enemy force, their was only one option left... attack and fight my way through.
And here is the result
https://img128.imageshack.us/img128/8836/hv1hn9.th.jpg (https://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hv1hn9.jpg)
Surely, if i would have gone west, next to the town, or stayed at this position, they'd 've ripped my men apart with two armies and aprox. 5000 or even more instead of (only) 4000 men.
Maksimus
11-11-2007, 23:28
Well as for Heroic victories: just had one. And in proper heroic style the game stopped working. :laugh4:
Ah.. men, I have that probs all the time:whip:
Maksimus
11-11-2007, 23:30
Year 221 BC
Difficulty-Medium
Forces-Romani and Ptolemaioi
Commanders-Julius Cornelius Blasio (Romani) and Philometer (Ptolemaioi)
Romani forces-2 Galatian swordsmen, 6 hastati (camillan) 2 hoplitai, 2 toxotai, 2 hippeis, 1 equites consulares and 4 thracian spearmen (total of 3206 men)
Ptolemaioi forces-1 general, 3 mercenary phalanxes, 3 jewish spearmen, 1 la tene clet mercenary, 2 heavy cavalry, 5 galatian swordsmen, 2 elite phalanx (total of 2996 men)
Deployment
I (Romani) was on the defensive, so i put my infantry into two lines (excluding the galatians.) i put my infantry next to a cluster of trees, where i hid my galatians in order to cut off any flankers. my hippeis were both on the right flank, my general behind the main line and the archers inbetween the two infantry lines.
Philometer had his men in double lines as well, with his heavy cavalry (cant remember the name) headed for my 'hippeis flank' (the hippeis were all on my right flank) whilst his infatry kept coming in double lines. My archers opened fire, but against heavily armoured troops didnt do much good.
The lines clash
At first the Ptolemaioi infatry clashed on my front line, and it seemed I was holding out well. But then his heavy cavalry tried to flank the unit fighting on the far end of the Hippeis flank, so i counter attacked with my own cavalry, flanking his flankers. This, along with javelins, arrows, and their distance from their general, made the cavalry break rank and flee. I pulled my cavalry back to help fight the ptolemaioi infantry, and began a major encirclement, using most of my second line to hook around the back and surround the enemy.
Things on my left flank werent going so well. At first the galatians had surprised the celtic mercenaries and jews who seemed intent on flanking my lines, but by now they were bogged down by infantry, and philometer was hurtling his own cavalry into the flank. knowing that my galatians werent cut out to deal with cavalry i sent in the hoplitai in the reserve line. that, coupled with my men stabilising, was enough to hold the line, and eventually my men managed to drag philometer from his horse and kill him. Things were looking up.
But then the right flank began to crumble, 1, 2, 5, huge numbers of units were routing, infantry and cavalry alike. Realizing that my general was about to be trapped i moved him over to the left flank, leaving the few units on the right to their fate: i knew that i couldnt hold the entire line, and the left flank was stronger. eventually the forces were reduced to pathetically small numbers: my general had only 14 men in his bodyguard, the hoplitai were reduced to 30, the galatians were nearing 70 and the only other unit, thracian spearmen, were at 150. the ptolemaioi had 120 phalanx and 300 jewish spearmen. by luck, and my own skill, i managed to encircle the units one by one and rout them, distracting the incoming jews with my hoplitai. and finally we routed the entire army.
The only thing that salted my game was that the victorious army was later annhiliated. but all the same, a great victory, which saved greece.
very nice :yes: but you shoul pst pictures on imageshack.us (but first save them as *.jpg file format)
;) post some!
Maksimus
11-11-2007, 23:41
A few days ago, i fought this battle. The enemys army approached at my position and their leader challanged me. However, i retreated, seeing no chance to win. But as it was on my turn i realized... i was trapped like a rat. Two smaller lusotan armies at my back, one stationed in the town, impassable mountains and a river at my sides and the massive lusotannen force in the front, blocking the way to Arsé, the next safe haven.
https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/409/eadaz6.th.jpg (https://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eadaz6.jpg)
Unable to simply pass the hostile colony and avoiding contact with the huge enemy force, their was only one option left... attack and fight my way through.
And here is the result
https://img128.imageshack.us/img128/8836/hv1hn9.th.jpg (https://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hv1hn9.jpg)
Surely, if i would have gone west, next to the town, or stayed at this position, they'd 've ripped my men apart with two armies and aprox. 5000 or even more instead of (only) 4000 men.
very nice post - do I had to look on imageshack.us to see the score :smash:
still it is weel played! I am sure you will have more and pot here..
note:try to upload in *.jpg fformat and in larger format like 640!:yes:
Maksimus
11-12-2007, 02:22
oh.. Here is another one.. It was the battle of Tanais with Armenia (me) against Sauromate.. on VH.. one of the last battles in that campaign
https://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2694/battleofuspe3gg2.png (https://imageshack.us)
That was the end of my Russland adventures - wining the battle of Tanais! And It was Important.. but, as I said.. that did not help my Empire - Seleucids attacked and I was broke :sweatdrop: :(
Maksimus
11-13-2007, 03:48
Oh.. I just found this one (I tought it was lost:laugh4: )
The battle that made me contine my Epeiros campaign! If I haven't won this one - It would have been the end.. It was the battle of Capua - When Romanoi faction leader died - and that is only because I had one native phalanx that were used well:charge:
https://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4914/battleofromecz6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
:dancinglock:
2 years in Hayasadan campaign ... just about to siege rebel city when a stack of
rebel join the fight
https://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3036/huhukv8.th.png (https://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=huhukv8.png)
Maksimus
11-14-2007, 03:11
Oh... very nice! See you got some men heald :yes:
note:you should re-size teh image for at least 640x480:bow:
very nice post - do I had to look on imageshack.us to see the score :smash:
still it is weel played! I am sure you will have more and pot here..
note:try to upload in *.jpg fformat and in larger format like 640!:yes:
Dude, he has uploaded jpg images of 1024x768 resolution. Just click the thumbnails to see the images full-size.
Using thumbnails in the forum is preferred since it keeps the loading time for threads down. Some poor souls might still be stuck on dial-up :skull:
Maksimus
11-14-2007, 07:29
Dude, he has uploaded jpg images of 1024x768 resolution. Just click the thumbnails to see the images full-size.
Using thumbnails in the forum is preferred since it keeps the loading time for threads down. Some poor souls might still be stuck on dial-up :skull:
I know, what I mean is to use 640*480 so we don't hahe to click the thumbnails to see the images full-size.. Anyway... that was nice victory..
I made one + myselfe
At Kypros fighting Rebel-ends of KHellenon that have been destroyed a battle before after I took Rhodos
https://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6743/kyproswi9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
I ended very good for me on VH/VH.. the rest is history!
https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3149/kypros1ef0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
In a moment it was so unstable.. then I used my generals to deliver the finall bllow to the enemy Phalanx back!:yes:
be well my friends!
tapanojum
11-14-2007, 11:07
Very impressive Maksimus!
Maksimus
11-14-2007, 18:45
Very impressive Maksimus!
Thank you :bow:
Still.. I am a RTW veteran.. so I know couple of 'tricks':robot:
do it is ussually :duel:.. Expirience can beat anything .. the point is - I am posting just to keep this thread alive so I can acctually learn something from you my friends ! so post post post post .. post any battle that had impact to you - the battle that realy matter to your campaign!
:charge:
tapanojum
11-15-2007, 00:14
I for one... HATE HATE HATE!!! assaulting any cities. I ussually break apart my army to be smaller than the defending enemy army in order to lure it out of the settlement. I've had some nice heroic victories when I took out a little bit TOO much out of my armies and was heavily outnumbered :sweatdrop: ....still fun tho
Would you mind posting your strategy to winning that one Maksimus?
CaesarAugustus
11-15-2007, 01:43
Pyrrhos is kicking ass in your campaign, Maksimus! Whatever it is you're doing with your army, you're very good at it...
ajdeignan
11-15-2007, 05:18
Hi Guys,
Saw 2 large Arveni armies in my territory (3300 + 1700), so I went up the steepest mountain and waited for them to attack.
By the time they reached my legion (1200), they were all exhausted. The enemy general charged by himself (must have been very impetuious). Once he fell, both enemy armies almost shattered, so I charged simultaneously with everything I had (instant rout).
Final kill ratio 64:1, 4503 dead for 70 of my own (the boys had sore arms that night).
And to top it all off, the game then CTD. I tried replaying it 10 times over, but always CTD (seems to happen a lot with my night battles).
I can't seem to paste a screenshot into this message (anyone give me a quick rundown on how to do it?). Thanks.
Maksimus
11-15-2007, 07:51
See my latest post ;)
Be Well!
Not what I was asking at all. I was hoping you would give us a run-down of how you won that heroic victory.
tapanojum
11-16-2007, 04:35
Not what I was asking at all. I was hoping you would give us a run-down of how you won that heroic victory.
I am also interested in this
Intranetusa
11-16-2007, 05:02
i wasn't able to take a pic of the results, but here's the battle near it's conclusion:
https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g186/uno_animo/nowheretorun.jpg
i entitle this pic "NOWHERE TO RUN.
hahaha. you know what happens next :))
p.s.
https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g186/uno_animo/Untitled-1copy-3.jpg
does anyone of you know what this unit is? i saw it on the EB site and i think it looks great.
maybe i could train some? or was this unit replaced/reskinned?
Wouldn't it be funny if you ambushed an enemy army with an army of 20 phalangites? Then you can literally form a sarissa phalanx box that encompasses the entire enemy army. Then you can slowly crawl and surround them... XD
Maksimus
11-16-2007, 09:46
I know, what I mean is to use 640*480 so we don't hahe to click the thumbnails to see the images full-size.. Anyway... that was nice victory..
I made one + myselfe
At Kypros fighting Rebel-ends of KHellenon that have been destroyed a battle before after I took Rhodos
https://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6743/kyproswi9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
I ended very good for me on VH/VH.. the rest is history!
https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3149/kypros1ef0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
In a moment it was so unstable.. then I used my generals to deliver the finall bllow to the enemy Phalanx back!:yes:
be well my friends!
Ok, A review!
First of all.. One 'small' army was in town in Kypros that had two hoplites and an archer unit, ..
My army was at the Noth Gate. And the Big army that came at me was at the West Gate. So, the first thing i did is to 'run-in' the town with my generals that followed defeated archers in through the North Gate - in the mean time One of my phalanx is fighting the hoplite unit that came out on me from the cities North Gate. The other army is coming closer in full march!
So, regardless to that I run in with my generals (in hope to take all of the gates), hoplites and one phalanx (the better one - because that phalanx is supposed to fight at the 'high-end' enemy right away in the town center - were enemy does not run)..
But, the enemy general (in the stronger army) is on the horse - so he marches in quickly.. leaving my Family Member near the West Gate that should have been taken... (and this fact make my troubles, If that gate was taken on time - there would be no Heroic)
In the mean time Pyrros is taking the South Gate (the East gate is not important any more).
So, my phalanx that was left behind (fighting the hoplite unit) had won now that I managed to run it down with my hoplites from behind (that made probs to me at the center - where now is only one phalanx unit in defence mod fighting against the last hoplite unit from the 'smaller' army).. the enemy army is coming fast - In the all my campaigns.. The proper use of phalanx and cavalry is my Victory..this phalanx is realy my hero here!
The enemy general runs at my phalanx in the center.. (now the main part of 'large amy is in the city coming from the West - still, that army was slowed down by my FMember charges at them in defence mod couple of times just to gain time to reach the center with my infantry) So I pull Pyrros back from the South to charge the enemy general from the flank while my other phalanx and hoplite unit are runing at the city center together.. SO! Pyrros runs down the enemy general that is to strong for him .. and yet - strong enough to eventually break my stronger phalanx for sure!
BUT!!! The thing happend!..
The enemy general is runing after Pyrros that I have pulled back to South (to gain another charge) - so they are now runing at south gate together .. by that time - my hoplites are reaching the center - to help my stronger phalanx.. and the other phalanx is 'reversing' its route to a smaller street that heads up across the path enemy infantry is using to reach the center.
My other family mamber is instantly going to help Pyrros from West to South while Pyrros is runing away from the enemy general..
And the improtant thing now.. Pyrros reaches South-East corner of town and then fights the enemy general - my familly member runs at enemy general from the Suth-West corner :: We kill the enemy general!::
But, the enemy phalanx is approching to my phalanx in the center (that is realy tired now) that is fighting enemy hoplites with my own hoplite unit..
This is where my other phalanx comes to act! It hits enemy two phalanx from the flank (because enemy is heading at the center) .. Here comes my generals that run the enemy phalanx from the back a couple of times and I win!!
note:this is on VH/VH settings on Alex.exe AI - that is much smarter.. but the situation is basic for all RTW.exe or BI.exe..
Hope I was not borring and that I was clear!
Be well My Friends! ;)
tapanojum
11-16-2007, 12:17
Thank you for explaining that, it makes sense now!
Well, blaah, this isn't actually too heroic, but it's nice nontheless. It's Conan the Barbarian showing how to cut off a few Roman heads.
The sceptical overview of the armies:
https://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1629/conanshowshow1ie2.th.jpg (https://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=conanshowshow1ie2.jpg)
Conan hacking some Triarii:
https://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8022/conanshowshow4xt2.th.jpg (https://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=conanshowshow4xt2.jpg)
Road to Ariminum is open:
https://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2639/conanshowshow5xk3.th.jpg (https://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=conanshowshow5xk3.jpg)
The end results:
https://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4491/conanshowshow6lt7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
After the battle I threatened Rome to give me some goodies, but since they refused, Ariminum is no more. About the course of the battle, I couldn't make any sense of it. I just charged while they were still forming up and it all went to hell.
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Meanwhile, southwest of Bibracte.
Now this is why I actually posted the previous. That was a heroic victory, so it grants me access here. This battle was only a clear victory, but the testicles in that battle were huge. In it a Gaesatae force of 120 men held the bridge against 300 Gaesatae. Of course there were other soldiers involved too, but the 120 Gaesatae nutsacks were the ones that made the day.
The Gaesatae from both sides were at the front. The 120 pairs held the ground, until the general began methodically deploying reserves. At the end of the day out of the 240 testicles, only 64 survived. But the balls of the survivers grew five times in size. The turning point of the battle came when the general himself lead the final reserves to help the ballsy ones. The Arverni were terrified at the solar eclipse caused by the Aedui general's massive balls. Although discouraged, most made their retreat in an orderly fashion, not to be outshone by the massive, gleaming nutsacks of the Aedui. All in all about 600 Aedui testicles were lost that day, and after the battle 176 of them turned gold. The surviving Gaesatae would forever be proud of their pairs, and songs were sang about them. The victorious general had custom a chariot built to support the weight of the massive, humongous balls he gained.
From a player's standpoint, I assure you the balls were enormous. They were extraordinary, almost divine. Absolutely colossal. I am proud to have witnessed such ballsiness. In Finnish I'd say, the battle was "an omelett".
The shot may not be so great and it only shows a fraction of the battlefield, and a few owners of massive pairs, but without further ado:
Tremendous Balls:
https://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9521/tremendousballswl6.th.jpg (https://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tremendousballswl6.jpg)
Maksimus
11-17-2007, 13:11
Uf.. very nice.. that is a lot of expirience.. Very nice realy.. I never played with barb factions.. But I guess they are very nice to use .. do, have you played a battle against phalanx with these armies.. how much harder to win is it afainst the Macedonia or Epeiros?
I had a few battles against Epirus in another Aedui campaign, and while phalangites were pretty nasty, if you got the non-phalangite units to rout, the phalangites would soon follow. Chaonion Guards usually fought to the death and needed Gaesatae to take care of them. Sometimes it was best just to destroy the rest of the army, while letting Chaonions retreat on their own.
Intranetusa
11-17-2007, 18:07
My Greatest Heroic Victory in EB Ever (yes, it's the dumb AI fluke)
This is perhaps my greatest victory (or AI battle fluke/stupidity) in EB. Battle Ratio: 3 to 20
I was Roman, year 215 BCE in Asia Minor. I had ~374 soldiers, composed of ~half strength Triari, merc phalangites, camillan reserves, and 2 ~full strength cretan archers and 1 Persian archer. The Seleucids sent several huge stacks at me, 2 of which beseiged my city. The armies that beseiged me had 2500 soldiers, composed of mostly phalangites (see pics), spearmen, and elite phalangites.
I was 95% sure the city was screwed, so I prepared to relinquish control to the Seleucids. Well, for some reason, they only built 3 seige weapons, and didn't use their seige artillery. Then they started randomly circling my walls.
In the first 30 minutes, they got their tower to my wall and heavy wall fighting ensued. Then they used the battering rams and broke open my gates.
I decided to send out half of my troops from the other gate, and attack the seige tower...thinking that they could only use the gate entrance if their tower was destroyed. Well, it worked...after their tower collapsed, the enemy sent wave after wave of troops to attack through my gates...tower fire and boiling oil killed most of them, allowing me to pull of a crazy lopesided heroic victory. All in all, it took me nearly 2 hours of fighting. :D
pics:
Battle Strength Ratio:
https://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9977/laststandstrengthratiolg5.jpg
Enemy Army #1 Stats:
https://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3041/laststandenemystatscc9.th.jpg (https://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laststandenemystatscc9.jpg)
Battle Scene #1 "Start":
https://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2739/laststandhj4.th.jpg (https://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laststandhj4.jpg)
Battle Scene #2 "Boiling Oil Frying Elite Phalangites":
https://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6416/laststand2nc1.th.jpg (https://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laststand2nc1.jpg)
Battle Scene #3 "Defeating Elite Phalangites in Melee - with Archers"
https://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6551/laststand3tg7.th.jpg (https://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laststand3tg7.jpg)
Battle Scene #3 "Aftermath - Enemy General's suicide charge of Desperation":
https://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1456/laststand4ef4.th.jpg (https://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laststand4ef4.jpg)
Aftermath, Heroic Victory Stats:
https://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8531/laststandheroicvictorybe0.th.jpg (https://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laststandheroicvictorybe0.jpg)
Maksimus
11-17-2007, 19:30
That is exelent Intranetusa, very well used city defence system, personally I always prefer to use towers as a weapon.. as much as we can - we should!:yes:
Thaatu, did you have an impression sometimes that wining a Heroic is very much possible when you have most of lower-end units, but when you have the elites .. no matter what (I just killed more then 1200 men with two Elite phalanx and I wont get Heroic) you can't get it.. And still, elites are not that much powerfull compared to native (weaker) units.
That is very well expressed in the phalanx world!:wall:
tapanojum
11-18-2007, 01:22
Thatuu, that is definitely a battle that you WOULDN"T want to get a CTD haha, 2 hours =] Nice
Thaatu, did you have an impression sometimes that wining a Heroic is very much possible when you have most of lower-end units, but when you have the elites .. no matter what (I just killed more then 1200 men with two Elite phalanx and I wont get Heroic) you can't get it.. And still, elites are not that much powerfull compared to native (weaker) units.
Yeah, in the battle I posted, I got 500 casualties while it still being a heroic victory. That's because most units were of lower quality than the enemy's. If the odds of the battle are 1:1, a heroic victory requires almost no casualties while the enemy being completely destroyed. Attacking a basic eleutheroi posse of three to four units with nothing but a single Gaesatae unit usually results in a clear victory.
Damn that this thread didn't exist a month ago. I destroyed a full Sweboz stack with a general, a Gaesatae unit, two Bataroas and two slingers. I ambushed the stack and it was truly awesome. I had like 800 men, of which 500 took part in melee, against 2500 Germans. The enemy general died in the first minute and the slaughter was beautiful. But still, I have no proof.
I had a fun battle. Epeiros decided to backstab me and attacked my tiny garrison at Pella with their big-ish stack. The units i had there were crappy, only for keeping the population happy, so i thought i was screwed. Luckily however i had recently built stone walls, so i wanted to fight anyway and take down as many bastards as possible so my relief army could take back the city later. It turned out to be a crazy battle :yes:
I had:
2 units of Toxotai,
1 unit of merc Hoplitai,
1 unit of Hoplitai Haploi,
general,
1 unit of merc Iphikratides hoplites (732 men in total), none of which at full strength.
They had (i am going by my memory on this since i didn't think to take a screen before the battle):
3 units of levy phalanxes,
2 generals (one with ~85, one with ~50 men)
~2-3 units of skirmishers
~2 mauled units of Thureophoroi
1 unit of Illyrian Thureophoroi
1 unit of Classical hoplites
several cavalry units, i forgot which ones
Maybe a few more that i can't remember, 2321 men in total.
Basically they attacked the walls in force and my men sure gave them hell :yes:
After all their infantry was slaughtered on the walls, all their cavalry came charging in through the gates (they rammed the gates down early on but for some reason didn't enter). At that point i had about 60 iphikratides hoplites on the walls and 50 bodyguards on the ground, all others had died on the walls. Well, my guys once more proved they're tough fuckers, it was especially cool how my general held off about 160 cavalry alone while the hoplites were on their way to surround the cavalry :2thumbsup:
In the end, i won with 7 men left, as you can see on the screens :egypt:
The wall here, and the carpet of bodies
https://img217.imageshack.us/img217/457/0011wl3.png
The streets, with my lone general and the remains of the botched cavalry charge
https://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9708/0009en9.png
The end result
https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2748/0012vu5.png
Maksimus
11-18-2007, 15:45
:applause:
That is all I can say
7 men!!!
Now that's epic!
I've had some heroic victories, but all were defending a city with one phalangite and some troops. Hell I'm going next time to try to do it with the phalanx only.
tapanojum
11-18-2007, 23:54
7 men! Nice =]
Good thing they recovvered right back to 245 hehe
Maksimus
11-20-2007, 18:58
Acctually.. here is one heroic... but, there are 3 major battles here, and all are 'played' by a single army - no reinforcements and Pyrros
Now, after a hard battle for Patavum,
https://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3875/patavumzc5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
I had to pull my troops back to retrain them in Epeiros. After that I brought them back to Northen Italia and started to gain pace until I reach Massalia
I started with Mediolanum
https://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8210/mediolanumck8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4945/mediolanum1lx5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Then Bononia
https://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1725/bononiagd5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img123.imageshack.us/img123/3644/bonnonia1ji9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Then Segesta - Where I lose the best general EVER in all of my RTW campaigns.. He Was 18 years old and level 8 expirience.. Gaestae killed him while he was in full charge at their back!
https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/368/segesta1mi4.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/368/segesta1mi4.7bb9ac3daa.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=518&i=segesta1mi4.jpg)
https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2241/segestaid7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
And Massalia !
https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5346/massaliasy0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5346/massaliasy0.b106bae5fb.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=518&i=massaliasy0.jpg)
https://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9785/massalia1dh5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
I am now heading for Asia... will post for sure :charge:
tapanojum
11-21-2007, 01:05
Maksimus, you need to write a battle AAR with TONS of screenshots and going in depth about your battle strategy.
Very wonderful post, I've [U]love[U] to see more!
Mouzafphaerre
11-21-2007, 12:41
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Although a ford defence, it was the artillery but mainly well-timed cavalry charges that turned the tide:
https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6431/2200dm0.th.jpg (https://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2200dm0.jpg) https://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1493/2201xc2.th.jpg (https://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2201xc2.jpg)
https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9933/2202ww6.th.jpg (https://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2202ww6.jpg) https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2129/2203ve2.th.jpg (https://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2203ve2.jpg)
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https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6431/2200dm0.th.jpg (https://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2200dm0.jpg)
Awww... Look at the unit size. They're so tiny! So cute! :baby:
Maksimus
11-21-2007, 13:30
That makes me want to use small troops again... Very nice Heroic.. I think that it is even harder to win with small units so that is a plus + to you Mouzafphaerre
And for my battle strategy that is used to win Northen Italy and Massalia (and specially for tapanojum).. I can say this,
https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/368/segesta1mi4.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/368/segesta1mi4.7bb9ac3daa.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=518&i=segesta1mi4.jpg)
https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2241/segestaid7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
First of all, I have used the same strategy for these towns, so a 'simple draw' of it will come now and some major explanation will come after some expirience with multiple 'print screen'.. That will happen to , eventually
So, about that campaign.. ok - the point is to have one 'catapult' that would allow you to move around the city if you want to get a better angle, then you will have to disable 'time limit' for battles - because it kills your creativity..
Then you have to have phalanx for this strategy because it wont work much for these kind of attacks if you have some medium infantry. You have to have 30% of archery in army and almost no cavalry at all - they don't need you there
The point is to get as close as you can to the city walls with your phalanx and breach the walls ahead.. in the mean time do the same with archery (but disable their fire at will) .. then , when you have done that (when infantry/phalanx are close to enter the city, archery can reach all enemy units near the entrance of your phalanx - THEN - you make archery fire at will so they can make enemy fall back to the town center runing away from the arrows)
THEN - you must act fast , fast as hell.. you must use phalanx to enter the city and make them for multiple phalanx that is pointing at the enemy - I mean realy for the phalanx at very enter LIKE IN THE FIRST PICTURE..
and make the same in the opposit direction so you keep the phalanx back ..
Then the enemy just runs at your phalanx and gets killed.. any enemy... but you must kepp the line of phalanx right ant tight, you must use 3 units to form then in a phalanx wall that stands in are that is ussually just for one phalanx unit - that means to 'add phalanx over phalanx' so you make them more effective - the same is done with cavalry when you wish a stronger charge...
After you do all this right -- you make history..:charge:
note:; you don't need hellenes - you can use any phalanx and any archers (but the bast is if you use stepe archers)
Intranetusa
11-21-2007, 14:44
Which battle was heroic? ~:confused:
Maksimus
11-21-2007, 15:31
I have edited my post..:laugh4:
Intranetusa
11-21-2007, 18:53
I have edited my post..:laugh4:
lol, awesome
I usually play with restrictions that make it harder for me to win battles (to compensate for AI's stupidity) such as almost never using phalanxes, reading/watching TV while fighting battles, never exploiting map weaknesses, not expand until I'm attacked, etc
Thus, I play as the steam-rolling Romans and still manage to lose huge battles and suffer huge causalities (2000+) - it makes the game much more fun when you lose a couple of times. :D
Maksimus
11-21-2007, 21:59
It does.. ..
You should try using ALX.exe for EB 1 - it is much harder to win..:yes:
Intranetusa
11-21-2007, 22:36
It does.. ..
You should try using ALX.exe for EB 1 - it is much harder to win..:yes:
Is the Alex.exe compatible with RTW vanilla and BI saved games and vice versa?
btw the instructions are a bit confusing - does Alex.exe need a clean install? or can I install it when I already have EB 1.0 installed?
Maksimus
11-22-2007, 23:41
Is the Alex.exe compatible with RTW vanilla and BI saved games and vice versa?
btw the instructions are a bit confusing - does Alex.exe need a clean install? or can I install it when I already have EB 1.0 installed?
No.. Alex.exe is not compatible with BI.exe, and I am suro that it is not compatible with RTW.exe too..:shame:
And you don't need a clean install.. you can just install Alex.exe and see if it works (it should work) and then just download the data I have uploaded at FileFront.. just copy-past that data and overwrite all.. and have fun..:laugh4:
tapanojum
11-23-2007, 00:46
No.. Alex.exe is not compatible with BI.exe, and I am suro that it is not compatible with RTW.exe too..:shame:
And you don't need a clean install.. you can just install Alex.exe and see if it works (it should work) and then just download the data I have uploaded at FileFront.. just copy-past that data and overwrite all.. and have fun..:laugh4:
Do we just download the files you put it to make it work, or do we have to have Alexander actually installed?
Maksimus
11-23-2007, 00:54
You have to have Alexander installed and working...:shame:
Mouzafphaerre
11-23-2007, 01:53
Awww... Look at the unit size. They're so tiny! So cute! :baby:
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Virtues of running EB on a low end system. :laugh4:
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https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/222/bagacos01gu1.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3171/bagacos02qf0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2586/bagacos03ts3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3961/bagacos04tu7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2877/bagacos05gn9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4570/bagacos06hg3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8278/bagacos07fx9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8864/bagacos08xp3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9205/bagacos09is6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5811/bagacos10jx4.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7333/bagacos11ke2.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
'Nuff said.
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7599/bagacos12pb8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Treverer
11-24-2007, 15:36
@ Thaatu:
good you choose not stop posting! ~;)
Yours,
Treverer
Nice presentation... I'm in awe!
Very cinematic!!!
Kudos to you sir!
Cheers...
tapanojum
11-25-2007, 08:33
Wow hhahaha
This one really should have been heroic.
I had a unit of Chalkaspides, freshly recruited, on their way to join an army sent to take Trapezous (south shore of Black Sea), when it was attacked by a mobile force of Eleutheroi - 4 Eastern Skirmishers and 4 Caucasian archers - 1601 men against my 243. When I managed to make contact with these elusive critters, my chalkaspides took some hits from behind by archers, but slugged on. When the enemy finally broke, the unit was down to 70 fighting men, but they had gained 2 chevrons in this battle. They slew 1186 enemies. too bad it was not listed as heroic, since it was nothing short of a heroic effort.
Maksimus
11-25-2007, 15:21
Thaatu... you are one wicked EB I say... that is very, very, inspireing for me:chucks:
ajdeignan
12-12-2007, 17:16
Finally managed to work out how to post screenshots - I think.
Shows what happens when you master the art of knowing where to pick your fights (and I don't mean bridges).
I play VH/M.
Saw 2 large Arveni armies in my territory (3300 + 1700; good quality troops), so I went up the steepest mountain and waited for them to attack.
By the time they reached my legion (1200), they were all exhausted. The enemy general charged by himself (must have been very impetuious). Once he fell, both enemy armies almost shattered, so I charged simultaneously with everything I had (instant rout).
Final kill ratio 64:1, 4503 dead for 70 of my own (the boys had sore arms that night).
http://dl.axifile.com/b95f484d3c96492663ad19346e6b684f/Heroic+Victory+Small.JPG
This was followed 2 seconds later by a CTD (I almost cried). Replayed the game 10 times; CTD every time (only EB can break your heart that bad).
delablake
12-12-2007, 17:55
now that's what I call a real massacre...just wonder why the troops didn't get more experience...but anyway:
hats off to Thaatu!!!
now that's what I call a real massacre...just wonder why the troops didn't get more experience...but anyway:
hats off to Thaatu!!!
I think it's because rooting enemies are less exp-points worth.
btw: nice presentation! :beam: @Thaatu
sanitarium
12-12-2007, 18:59
I suppose I may as well post one of my heroic wins here. I don't know if it really counts, because I got a CTD after the battle ended.
https://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3543/heroicwinap8.jpg
Unfortunately, this is the only screenshot I thought to take. It still pains me to know this win didn't really count.
Maksimus
12-13-2007, 01:11
Unfortunately, this is the only screenshot I thought to take. It still pains me to know this win didn't really count.
Of.. It count's here, as far as I would say :laugh4:
I had like 10 CTD after some long no-limit battle that was Heroic..
but what can you do:shrug:
Maksimus
02-08-2008, 02:06
After my last post here I havent played a single campaign
Now that I have started a new one.. well.. I must post some Heroic :grin:
https://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7803/0043db4.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4136/0044ea0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2571/0040sh3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9859/0041xv3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8418/0042mp2.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6238/0045yz0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Well, they called it an average, but I call it a Heroic.
https://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x152/Elphir/RomeTW-BI2008-01-0617-50-54-21.jpg
THIS!
IS!
ALEX-AN-DREIAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Maksimus
02-08-2008, 03:46
Oh... that is a large battle ... and I am not sure why you did not get a Heroic:no:
Maybe .. who knows - Now you reminded me that I should edit my post and ask anyone to post victories won in some nice places like near some wonder or famous city :grin:
colonalwhisky
02-08-2008, 03:51
damn i now wish i had taken a sreeny of my heroic.
well here is it anyway
Saka 290 men (or there abouts)
- 2 generals
- 3 saka horse archers
-1.5 saka armoured horse archers
Baktra 900 odd men
- 3 spear archer units
- 1 slinger unit
- one native unit (the crappy ones)
- 3 phallanx units
- indo-greek horsies
end result.....
Saka - 20 men dead (mainly horse archers)
Baktra - 2 men left standing :skull:
I love mounted archers.:smg: :smg:
Good Ship Chuckle
02-08-2008, 04:01
This question is semi-relevant.
I see in your battle pics, that your unit cards are stretched out, and the usual display in RTW isn't there. The overview map is also in the top right hand corner. That display is awesome! My question:
How does one achieve that display mode? Is it a button?
Thanks.
Maksimus
02-08-2008, 04:09
You tweak that in Preferences.txt in your EB folder - but take my advice - don't make it the way I did - I am going to swich back vanilla way - coz the unit menu shows only if you drag the mouse pointer all the way to the top of the screen (it is annoying:wall: )
Good Ship Chuckle
02-08-2008, 04:18
That's perfect for me!!!!
I use hotkeys (I made an excellent tutorial, check out in my sig), and thus don't need the menu to give out commands.
Please, explain in detail how it is done!!
Maksimus
02-08-2008, 04:29
Ok, here is my preference.txt so you can see it yourself because I cant remember all the things I have tweaked so far :shrug:
http://www.divshare.com/download/3724456-7de
You can find your file in ''RTW/eb/preferences/preferences.txt'' :grin:
Still you will see ( i use hotkeys for years but ...)
Anyway .. Post Heroic
Good Ship Chuckle
02-08-2008, 04:42
It took a while to download for some reason, but I got it.
Thanx!!
Not much of a heroic battle - a depleted but experienced army besieging Antiocheia was attacked. I had a 1:4 chance of winning because of auto-calc overrating phalanxes.
https://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5168/antiocheialj1.png
You might notice different icons for the Komatai, that's because the icons for Sweboz and Getai are switched around in 1.0. Here is the fix:
Komatai Icon Bug Fix (http://www.mediafire.com/?bhyg1i41cje)
Maksimus
02-09-2008, 02:28
Oh.. those icons - does EB team know about this?
Don't know, I posted the fix in the Bugs section a few days ago, but I have no idea if the team noticed.
Maksimus
02-09-2008, 14:42
ROME
https://img509.imageshack.us/img509/281/0056nu6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1331/0057ab3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4444/0058qe9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4955/0059pk1.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1610/0060ml6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/512/0062dp5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
oK.. got a CTD after this one... :wall:
But I will try again later
Whoah Maksimus. How did you get the Romans to have such a relatively balanced army? Are you using any mod at all?
Cheers
Maksimus
02-09-2008, 21:44
This campaign I am Play-Testing ALX EB mod (beta)... so they are balanced because this army is hand-added (and the ALX engine is a bit different in recruitment than RTW.exe)
Tellos Athenaios
02-09-2008, 21:50
Don't know, I posted the fix in the Bugs section a few days ago, but I have no idea if the team noticed.
We sure did, and AFAIK it is fixed in the internal build as well...
Alrightey cheers.
I'll have to get hold of that as soon as i finish my current campaign.
Which will take months
Cheers
Alas, I don't have any screenshots, but one of my favorite battles was a recent one in my Romani campaign - the Arverni attacked my recently captured city of Massalia, so I approached with my full-stack army. They retreated to their capital, and I followed - turns out, the full stack army they had attacking my city was one of two - the other being garrisoned in their capital. As my general had the impetuous trait (he was also my faction leader), I attacked.
This was going to be one of the most fun battles I ever had.
I used the Cannae strategy of encirclement and annihilation, although my chief objective was to rout the enemy rather than annihilate with my infantry. First, I harassed the enemy line with my slingers and withdrew them when they ran out of ammo. Next, I approached with my infantry line, consisting of a triarii and pedites extrodinarii (It may not be the cheapest army, but it hasn't failed me yet.) I had the PE occupy the center of the line and my triarii on the flanks. I used the PE to occupy the enemy line and then used my triarii to attack the flanks and rear.
My cavalry at this time chased down the enemy general and killed him. :) Assassination comes in many forms.
Not long after (a matter of seconds, at most) the entire enemy line began to rout. My 3 units of cavalry and my general had about 1000 kills each, and almost all of my infantry had about 100 kills each.
In total, I lost about 300 men to my enemies 4000+, mainly to enemy slingers.
I didn't get heroic because my odds were 1:1, but it was easily my largest battle to date and my strategy worked perfectly.
Maksimus
02-10-2008, 01:19
+4000 to 300 = Bravo to you :grin:
Chirurgeon
02-10-2008, 16:42
Alright in my Lusitannan AAR I had a huge battle with the Arevaci. I did not have any crack troops:
https://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h301/troyboy1208/Iberia%20Rising/VIII-2.jpg
I deployed in a forest to take advantage of the combat bonus. The enemy never found the end of my right flank so I was able to move the men around to the left to shore things up. I had to use my general to counter everything the enemy was doing along with the mobile light swordsmen. I also had the skirmishers set up to do melee and to try to delay the enemy as much as possible. Here is a summary of the major movements during the battle. I am the blue team :)
https://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h301/troyboy1208/Iberia%20Rising/BattleofNumantia.jpg
https://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h301/troyboy1208/Iberia%20Rising/IX-7.jpg
https://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h301/troyboy1208/Iberia%20Rising/IX-8.jpg
Read the AAR if you want more info. It was one of the best battle I had ever fought in EB
Maksimus
02-11-2008, 02:48
One of the hardests battles I ever fought at Khorintos against Gonatas.. my god, I really wanted to quit and exit at one point
https://img164.imageshack.us/img164/5726/0063sy7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6374/0064qr3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5156/0066ae9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2976/0067xw0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6159/0072nb1.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8248/0074by1.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6140/0075at7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1851/0076bz3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9937/0078oc7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img206.imageshack.us/img206/580/0079qi0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
And this was after that when KH advanced.. I must tell you that I was hoping walls will help me kill at least 20% of the enemy... well - not on ALX.exe
https://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1972/0082xj6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img340.imageshack.us/img340/518/0083nx7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1016/0081qf4.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Oh.. I play on VeryHard/Medium :grin:
Maksimus
02-11-2008, 21:07
Some new events in my fight for survival
https://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4507/italyn2aw8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9053/italyndf6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2305/italyn3lu9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8781/0095on9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
And Athens
https://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9576/54205605vk2.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3813/a1xn5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1414/a3fb2.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
:grin:
Theodotos I
02-25-2008, 19:32
http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Theodotos/
I may not have done this right, but the above should be a picture of a battle I fought in my Pahlava campaign against two huge Ptolemaic armies and a small army of their Seleukid allies. That's right, allies. I had an all-cavalry army and had to race all over the map back-stabbing the phalanxes and pulling my horsemen out of danger. A glorious battle, took over an hour. I took this one photo, clicked to go back to the main screen, and got an immediate CTD. :wall: Still very enjoyable.
Theodotos I
02-25-2008, 19:38
Okay, that's no good. Tell me, as a complete newbie in this sort of thing, how do I get my pictures to come up? I posted that one over on photobucket, typed in the URL, and you can see what I got. Many thanks to any who can help.
MarcusAureliusAntoninus
02-25-2008, 22:21
Your link is directed to a 'folder'. You need it to be an actual picture, not a website. (It has to be something that ends in .jpg, .bmp, etc.)
The Wicked
02-26-2008, 00:52
Hi !!! Well this is not a campaing battle but it was a great battle so.....
https://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8611/15262547mm2.jpg
Maksimus
02-26-2008, 01:05
One of the largest custom battles I ever saw :laugh4:
nice :yes:
CaesarAugustus
02-26-2008, 01:28
:inquisitive: That was only a clear victory!?!?
The Wicked
02-26-2008, 12:27
:inquisitive: That was only a clear victory!?!?
Yes !!!! maybe if i had cavalry and hunt them down, the enemy losses would be enough for a heroic victory ....
Danzifuge
02-26-2008, 12:59
Hi !!! Well this is not a campaing battle but it was a great battle so.....
https://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8611/15262547mm2.jpg
thats freakin nuts. how do you manage to kill half an army and rout the other half without cavalry and no ability to surround? how did you manage to take so few losses after being virtually surrounded and outnumbered like 8:1? i know the ai is pretty stupid, but i smell some foul play.
anubis88
02-26-2008, 13:12
well he might a have an elite army against only levies...
V.T. Marvin
02-26-2008, 14:08
@anubis 88 and The Wicked - It would be interesting to know what was the ememy armies composition, but his one certainly was not elite - pretty ballanced hoplite army imo, without any inapropriate chevrons. Great job The Wicked:2thumbsup:
P.S. - On what wicked difficulty have you fought that?
anubis88
02-26-2008, 17:10
@anubis 88 and The Wicked - It would be interesting to know what was the ememy armies composition, but his one certainly was not elite - pretty ballanced hoplite army imo, without any inapropriate chevrons. Great job The Wicked:2thumbsup:
P.S. - On what wicked difficulty have you fought that?
oops, sorry:oops: ... I didn't see the units at the bottom, when i saw it the page didn't load fully:shame:
The Wicked
02-26-2008, 22:27
@anubis 88 and The Wicked - It would be interesting to know what was the ememy armies composition, but his one certainly was not elite - pretty ballanced hoplite army imo, without any inapropriate chevrons. Great job The Wicked:2thumbsup:
P.S. - On what wicked difficulty have you fought that?
Well All kind of medium heavy and light infantry except pikemen-phalanx formation units... This was a test for hoplites i play eb with bi, hoplites have shield wall and the short pike attributes and that as you can see made them very strong .. maybe too strong :beam:
ps . normal diff. I hate easy and i hate even more hard :laugh4:
Tarquinius
02-27-2008, 17:59
A pretty hard battle in the early conquest of Iberia, odds were 1:3 in my enemies favour, playing VH/M
https://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/Tarquinnius/Heroic1.jpg
Theodotos I
02-27-2008, 18:16
https://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Theodotos/EB/Heroic.jpg
Trying this again. This was one of my most incredible battles ever. Close to three thousand men on the field, all-cavalry against elite phalangitai. Maybe you'll actually be able to see it this time. :wall:
Maksimus
02-28-2008, 05:02
More and more heroic - oh.. my ... g ... :grin:
Maksimus
09-14-2008, 02:40
Is anyone willing to post some of his screen's pls :)
penguinking
09-14-2008, 04:20
I had had a battle where I forgot how weak Casse generals are and charged my faction leader at a unit of skirmishers that wasn't routing. My faction leader died and my army routed. But I had a CTD afterward, refought the battle, and won a heroic victory.
Cullhwch
09-14-2008, 05:48
These aren't from EB, but I want to share them anyway due to their sheer epic nature...
https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7334/alexanderyu4.jpg
https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4974/massivevictorystatszi0.jpg
The kicker is that I STILL didn't kill all of the armies around Sardis. Gah!
Sorry about the size.
Mediolanicus
09-14-2008, 15:22
I had had a battle where I forgot how weak Casse generals are and charged my faction leader at a unit of skirmishers that wasn't routing. My faction leader died and my army routed. But I had a CTD afterward, refought the battle, and won a heroic victory.
Actually, those chariots are great.
You just have to keep them moving all the time.
I always got Herioc victories while playing the Casse due to the fact that those chariots enormously lower enemy morale and cause massive routs while ploughing through enemy ranks.
Olaf The Great
09-15-2008, 18:05
Me-250 men, on normal size
Them 850 men on normal size.
My units, depleted but experienced Swordsman, one half unit of Gaestae and a general.
Them-Over 9000 Lougae
Me-won with 196 men.
Them, lost with no survivors
Me, Aedui, and them, Areverni
I killed their faction leader and destroyed their whole faction.
BTW on Mac at school :P
penguinking
09-15-2008, 23:38
Actually, those chariots are great.
You just have to keep them moving all the time.
I always got Herioc victories while playing the Casse due to the fact that those chariots enormously lower enemy morale and cause massive routs while ploughing through enemy ranks.
That's true, and I love the generals- they have a good supply of javelins too. But they suck in prolonged melee, even more than other cavalry does. And it can be very hard to extricate them from melee. Their morale affects are amazing, but sometimes I wish my general could beat a unit of skirmishers.
Grriffon
09-16-2008, 00:10
Actually, those chariots are great.
You just have to keep them moving all the time.
I always got Herioc victories while playing the Casse due to the fact that those chariots enormously lower enemy morale and cause massive routs while ploughing through enemy ranks.
I *HATE* the Casse generals. It's my only gripe about the faction, I absolutely love using all their other units. But if you look at those generals wrong, or sneeze in their direction, they die, with 95% of their bodyguards left alive.
SwissBarbar
10-15-2008, 10:08
i played a single battle, not in EB but in medieval II. I had heavy infantery and many archers (all in all about 2500 men) and was beeing attacked by ca. 21'000 peasants :laugh4: :laugh4: i won, that was quite funny. Gotta try that in EB
Maksimus
10-27-2008, 21:41
too bad people dont post here no more, looking at others major or important battles is very interesting for me at least.. I hope I will finish the mod i am working on soon and post new interesting battles.
SwissBarbar
10-27-2008, 23:09
Here's the result of the battle from wich i postet a Screenshot in the October competition (this one:)
https://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8352/unbenanntio6.png
The Macedonian Army was a great wall of spears. There was an unit of Argyraspides (Elite Phalanx), and the rest was 30%/70% Pezhetairoi and Phalangitai Deuteroi. Some Peltasts covered the flanks and the rear of the phalanx.
The reinforcement were composed of some levy hoplites.
This was the decisive battle for hegemony over sparta. The macedonians did attack on a very broad front. Their approaching was quite epic, i almost could feel the ground shake. But their light infantery who covered the flanks was rapidly taken down by the roman long range units and heavy infantery. The heavy infantery in the center bound the macedonian phalangitai in combat, who were without protection from the flanks and rear without their light infantery.
The result was a desater and the greatest massacre in history so far.
https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5996/unbenannt222by5.png
Carthaginian General
10-27-2008, 23:16
I would post this stuff, but noooo.... I have to wait until that damn reform occurs before I get my Iberian Assault Infantry :(
But when I do, those Seleucids in Asia Minor trying to re-conquer my foothold in Pergamum will regret not accepting my protectorate... and I'll post a screen.
Tartaros
10-28-2008, 00:30
an older one, 1.0 vh/md
https://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1830/resultatebjj5.th.png
this battle was really hard. more than one hour of fighting with a lot of seleucid elites.
after the battle i was able to conquer alexandreia like napoleon under the pyramids...
This is my first battle in EB and my first post here :yes:
My Roman army against an army of Eleutheroi defending Segesta
The Rebels attacked me after being beseiged for 1 turn. He deployed his infantry at the south gate while releasing his 2 missile cavalry and genereal out of the western gate. I advanced 3 groups of Hastati into his infantry while covered by slinger fire. After that I sent a group of Triarii at their left flank.
Meanwhile his cavalry arrived and my Equites and General dealed with the missile cavalry very quickly, the general however gave me more problems, and I had to redeploy the Triarii to fight the general.
One group of missile cavalry stopped routing and quickly charged my slingers which caused them to rout. But I punished his missile cavalry by anihilating them with my general.
Now it was time to break the spirit of the Rebels and I flanked the infantry with my cavalry. This was enough for a group of enemy spearman to rout and as I persued them I conquerd the gates. Fianlly the whole army in front of the city gates was destroyed and I only had to slaughter the remains of his army at the town square.
https://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/Wausser/th_HeroicVictory1.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/Wausser/?action=view¤t=HeroicVictory1.jpg)
Aemilius Paulus
10-29-2008, 03:12
Wow, my hat off to you. I understand the town of Segesta contains two units of Gaesatae, which makes your win even more impressive. What units did you have in the beginning of the battle?
chenkai11
10-29-2008, 03:42
It was a siege battle from my previous SAKA campaign
https://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2323/48990261ue2.jpg (https://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=48990261ue2.jpg)
https://img291.imageshack.us/img291/48990261ue2.jpg/1/w1026.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img291/48990261ue2.jpg/1/)
Maksimus
10-29-2008, 04:36
just how many arrows you vasted :grin:
very nice, it took long i bet
*Wausser, i second Aemilius, that is one good fight, do what difficulty was it?
chenkai11
10-29-2008, 05:18
What I did is, 2 generals waste all their arrows. Then they charge, melee, charge and melee, at the same time 2 HA fire behind the enemies. When HA have no more ammo left, they draw attention of the enemies together with the 2 generals, and the 3 archer spearmen units started to work, firing behind the enemy.
Last, archer spearmen pinned the enemy while calvary charge at the back. And that is the hardest part inside the settlement.
Thanks! :D
I played it on medium, and the units I had were:
1 FM
1 Equites
3 Hastati
1 Triarii
1 Roman Reserve Slingers
@chenkai11:
Nice one :D
Aemilius Paulus
10-29-2008, 08:30
I played it on medium, and the units I had were:
1 FM
1 Equites
3 Hastati
1 Triarii
1 Roman Reserve Slingers
You won with THAT? I believe you deserve a balloon for this::balloon2:
In case you are not aware of this, the balloon is the .Org unit of currency. Treasure it well!
:balloon2::balloon2: to you-that win was the best i've seen.:yes:
Hmm I think I made a (little) mistake
I didn't had Hastati but Principes...
SwissBarbar
10-29-2008, 17:13
bah, still a very nice victory
After 35 years as a good ally, Sweboz decided to back stab me by attacking Mediolanum.
I made the Sweboz pay for it....
WITH THEIR BLOOD!!!!
I had a FM, 2 principes (one only having +- 70 men) and a group of Triarii
The AI had some Chatti club, Germanic Club, Hera....(Germanic Swordsman), Fujot, Ridonez and a FM
https://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/Wausser/th_HeroicVictory2.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/Wausser/?action=view¤t=HeroicVictory2.jpg)
Celtic_Punk
11-09-2008, 22:08
This thread makes me wish i took screenshots of my defence of Baktra. PURPLE RAIN attacked me with 3 full stacks and my field army was away in india. I had 2 phalanx, and 4 generals. Thats all I needed. with only 2 routes to the city square, I placed 1 phalanx on the North street and the other on East street. Most of them came through the north street, which was good because that phalanx had 2 silver chevs, and my other one only had 2 bronze ones. We held for a good 40minutes when they started pushing through so I charged my King into the fray, then they hit the east phalanx, so I sent my most experienced General (who was only there the get new weapons and armour and then was going back to the field army) into the East street and he chewed through them like butter with 3 silver chevs. When he broke through that contingent he had a gold chevron, so i took him and the 2 other generals and swooped round and started killing the buggers who were along the inside of the palisade. Pushed into the North street and cut the palhav to peices.
I lost about 20% of my men, mostly cavalry, killed all 5000 or so of them.
Maksimus
12-17-2008, 06:36
bump* :dancinglock:
Onehandstan
12-17-2008, 12:37
Wausser, may I ask how exactly you won such a victory? I know Germanic infantry suck but still...
A Terribly Harmful Name
12-17-2008, 16:18
Germanic infantry "suck"? Hell they are tough to kill!
Well they only had one set of ladders and one tower, I could slay his units easily, and above all sweboz lost a lot of men to my towers
SwissBarbar
12-20-2008, 01:41
Current KH-Campaign, Battle near Ambrakia
https://img364.imageshack.us/img364/419/heroicvictorylj5.png
The Epirotes had 4 or 5 units of Elite Phalangitai and many other phalanx units, supported by Illyrian Coast Levies and Spearmen. After a short but bloody fight at the right flank, i could beat them back there and attack the rear of their phalanx. This decided the battle. The cavallery was only used to hunt down routing enemies.
Cav. Kill - Stats
Hippeis - 451
Hippeis - 888
Greek Heavy Cavallery - 553
If that were a regular field battle on relatively even ground (so I couldn't set up on a massive 70 degree slope), I would have lost at least half of the (Koinon) army achieving that victory.
SwissBarbar
12-20-2008, 11:51
yes, i was lucky that there was a valley, because in the first place, I stood downhill and they came down from the even greater slope. So i retreated onto the next hill, the one you see on the picture.
Since they were the attackers, not me, they marched uphill on the right flank (picture). Behind the picture theres an slope where they came down with cavallery and heavy phalangitai, but luckily not so many, so there i could break them, even though my thureophoroi were fighting uphill.
Most of the 500 men i lost were killed when beeing attacked from higher ground.
Choosing the right battleground is half the rent, this should have been considered by the enemy before attacking my army ;-)
Btw. the game is H or VH (i don't remember) Campaign / M battle
Maksimus
12-20-2008, 12:36
very nice,
and yes Medium battle difficulty is optimal, since on hard and very hard you will be forced to see natives massacre your elites in direct combat - not nice at all :no:
SwissBarbar
12-20-2008, 13:08
yeah, i don't like it unrealistic
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This time - it is the next battle - i fought uphill and they attacked downhill. The difference to the one before is very clear, it did cost me many more men.
https://img444.imageshack.us/img444/560/khepeiros1mb9.png
Some points have to be paid attention to:
1. this battle happend shortly after the heroic victory i posted first. No casualty from befor was replaced. The cavallery has been decimated before and were only 107 men instead of the 300 the used to be.
2. on the other hand the Epirotes did not have as many Elite-Phalangitai as in the first battle. They only had 3 full and 1 or 2 decimated (less than 50 men) units of them.
3. Three Family Members led the 2 Epirote Armies into battle. Each one had more than 100 Somatophylakes Strategou under command.
4. The rest of the enemys armies consisted of 2 units of Sphendonetai and each 1 unit of Toxotai, Peltastai, Hippeis and Hoplitai, the whole rest of the armies consisted of mercenary Thureophoroi and illyrian levies and spearmen.
My own army consisted of the units as following (the same counts for the battle before, its the same army, only that before the heroic victory every unit was complete and this time some had losses from before):
https://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4326/khepeiros2jj7.png
And now the most interesting thing:
https://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2325/khepeiros3jk6.png
It appears that the 3 FM of Epeiros were the LAST 3 FM of this faction. They all died in this battle. Ambrakaia, the city i had layed siege on, the one where the supportive army of Epeiros came from, is still under siege but now belongs to the Eleutheroi. The same counts for Epidamnos wich belonged to Epeiros too.
SwissBarbar
12-20-2008, 19:31
Sorry for posting here again ^^ But I am very much excited. I don't know why, but in my current KH campaign great enemy armies do appear. This one for example attacked one of my 2 Armies, this time its the army in Asia Minor.
The Arche Seleukeia attacked with 2 armies. Other than the epirote armies, the AS did not use elite phalangitai, but a strong core (7 units) of Medium Phalangitai (Klerouchoi Phalangitai and Pantodapoi Phalangitai, supported by few heavy Hoplitai, some mercenary Thureoporoi and many light Infanterists like Shuban-i Fradakhshana, Akontistai, Toxotai. They also had some cappadocian hillmen, whos native names i forgot, quite many units of Pantodapoi,a unit of Misthophoroi Uzali and a unit of Skythed Chariots. They also had 1 FM with about 100 Somatophylakes Strategou.
My own army consited of:
Heavy Infantery (core troups)
1 x Somatophylakes Strategou (KH)
2 x Hoplitai
2 x Iphikratous Hoplitai
Medium and Light Melee Infantery (flanks)
2 x Ekdromoi Hoplitai
2 x Hoplitai Haploi
2 x Peltastai
Light Range Infatery (supportive Troups)
2 x Toxotai
3 x Sphedonetai
Cavallery
2 x Hippakontistai
2 x Prodromoi
https://img126.imageshack.us/img126/4004/heroicvictory2uv4.png
The reason i post this, is that i've managed to creat a kind of "Canae", even if based on luck and AI stupidity.
The 2 armies did not attack at the same time. The smaller one attacked and got beaten very quickly. The second army did not appear on the battlefield until that point of time.
The enemy general rode to near allone and got killed by a stone of my Sphedonetai. The rest of his army, which outnumbered mine, formed up in a rectangle (i've never seen an army doing that, but well, they did).
Then this is what happened (the number of units on this picture does not equal the numbers at the real event, its just an illustration):
https://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2222/heroicvictory2mapof0.png
1. The cavallery beats the Shuban-i Fradakhshana and rides to the right flank of the enemy
2. The Ekdromoi Hoplitai and the Hoplitai Haploi fight the light infantery in front, turn right and drive them to the Phalangitai.
3. The General leads his heavy infantery to the left flank of the enemys Phalangitai and attacks.
4. A unit of Iphikratous Hoplitai gets behind the enemys formation, beats the light infantery in the rear of the enemy and attacks the rear of the Phalangitai
The Phalangitai turn 90°, and attack the heavy infantery of the KH. Their left flank is now attacked by the Iphikratous Hoplitai, their right flank by the Ekdromoi Hoplitai and the Hoplitai Haploi. The light infantery at the new right flank starts to rout.
5. Now that the Phalangitai turned themselves to face the heavy infantery of the KH, the cavallery attacks at full breadth and causes - in collaboration with the fleeing light infantery at the flank - a mass routing, which ends in an even more brutal slaughter, than the battles against Makedonia and Epeiros brought up.
This was only the great core of the enemies army. For some reason the Chariots, most of the light range-infantery and 2 units of Pantodapoi waited for christmas at the other end of the battlefield. They did not move, even after their heavy infantery was sent to hades. Since it was 240 before christ, and so christmas was far away, i choosed to attack myself and beated the 2 units of Pantodapoi by attacking them with my cavallery from 4 sides at once. The rest of the enemys army ran off the battlefield. Many of the light range infanterists got killed, but the chariots could flee without even having touched an enemy soldier.
As i said, the battle has mainly been won because of AI stupidity and luck, but it still was a great massacre and an important victory that guaranteed further expansion in asia minor.
I'm very glad that the enemies show up so early with such great elite-forces as Makedonia and Epeiros did, and now the AS layed siege on Ipsos with an army with of 8 ! units of Shipri Tukul - Babylonian Heavy Spearmen - among the other units. Juhuuu
Ok, now I would have definitely lost that battle. :dizzy2: The AI would just have encircled me.
Should that go under the suicidal AI thread?
SwissBarbar
12-20-2008, 21:26
haha, yes, indeed
Well,I guess I can revive this thread.https://img52.imageshack.us/img52/753/rometw2012031215460464.png
Titus Marcellus Scato
03-15-2012, 18:38
How the hell did you achieve that kill ratio? What were the Romans using, an army of leves?
FinnishedBarbarian
03-15-2012, 19:15
Made stand in town square with phanlangites which weared down enemy, then slaughtering them with tarantinoi throwing missiles to their backs followed by Pyrrhos charging with his bodyguard? That way it wouldn't really matter which army composition romani have be it leves or 890 triarii (well you would also need some luck in that case because you'd have to rout instantly atleast half of enemy units so that chain rout would start).
killing twice your number in a defensive battle is no big deal but only loosing one single man in a battle is really epic !
I usually even have more when annoying a eastern selucid quarterstack with horse archers.^^
Actually,I just made the phalangites stand at the gate with the cavalry as close to the wall as possible to avoid some missile fire.The Romans just charged at my phalanx until there were like 20+left then they started to rout.After which I sent Pyrrhos.(Played on H/M)
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