View Full Version : Macedonian charge takes comp with it
Jaywalker-Jack
11-14-2007, 03:23
Playing as Makedonia and fighting the Romans I keep getting a stop error when I charge cavalry into the enemy. The computer crashes and restarts, just at the moment the cavalry hit the enemy. It seems to happen more often when they hit the rear/flank of a unit. Its happened both in sieges and standard battles. So far Ive been getting around it by just doing without cavalry, but of course playing as Makedon that's a big sacrifice.
Link to save file here - http://www.axifile.com/?5807149
In that save file, after ending turn the Romans will attack my sieging army, and in the battle you can see the problem.
I havnt seen this happen with any other factions so far.
Thanks for your report. Possibly there's something wrong with an animation for one of the units in question.
Jaywalker-Jack
12-05-2007, 00:56
An update on this post - https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1747167#post1747167
(I would have posted on that thread, but Im not sure if you have some way of seeing it, other than constantly rechecking old threads for new posts?)
I encountered the same problem again, this time playing as Carthage. However I was using the same cavalry unit as before - Campanian cavalry. I suspect it is this unit that has the problem. (By the way Ive never seen anything crash the game so badly, it dosnt just CTD, the machine actualy has to switch off and restart.) Hope that helps!
Johnny, when you make a new response in the thread it is bumped to the first page. Also, I have made this thread a personal sticky, along with all the others that I haven't figured out yet.
Edit: Some moderator seems to have moved your post in, so I removed the quote and edited the rest of my post.
pezhetairoi
12-05-2007, 13:15
You sure it isn't a hardware problem? Hmm, how big were the battles in which you crashed?
The power supply in my comp was getting old, and whenever I did something that drew a lot of system power, it would crash, switch off and turn itself back on. Most memorably when my 3000-man Baktrian army was fighting a 3000-man Seleukid stack, and I made the charge that would win the day. It usually only occurred for me in very large, fullstack or heavy reinforcement battles.
Then I changed it, and I no longer had such problems, even when I handled even larger battles. Hmm. Just a thought.
Johnny, could you try to run a custom battle with one campanian cavalry against one pantodapoi or something similar that you know should work? If it crashes when you do that, it's pretty certain that it's something to do with the animation for that. I think I've heard the unit mentioned in some trouble earlier but can't remember where.
Reason for CTDs and glitches is buggy "eb/data/models_unit/ebmodel_hellenistic_cavalry_aspidophoroi_SOR__high.CAS" file (used by aspidophoroi and campanian cavalry). As a temporary solution, try replacing such references in DMB with something similar, like those of tarentinoi cavalry. You will get weird looking men, but no CTDs at least. Or you can replace textures as well to tarentinoi version. Or find better replacement candidate (eg some other "fs_hc_javelinman, fs_hc_swordsman" cav type in DMB).
Jaywalker-Jack
12-06-2007, 14:33
Aha, so that's it then. Cheers Lgk. Bovi, I havnt gotten around to fixing the custom battle unit line up yet (campanians nowhere to be seen), so I havnt tested as per your request. Not sure if its a good idea to keep crashing the old girl anyway. I would put money on it being the campanians though, every time I use that unit I get the crash, never with any other kind of cavalry (even when used in the same battle as the campanians). Looks like we have our answer anyway. :yes:
Congratulations!
You have succeeded in routing your computer! Would you like to continue the battle and hunt it down as the worthless piece of electronics it is?
I don't deal with model issues, but it's been reported in EBH with what's causing it, so we will probably nail it :2thumbsup:.
Korinthian
12-11-2007, 08:14
EB Team Gentlemen
First of all thank you for great work. This is my first post although i am playing EB for quite a while with no several problems. I hope my post will contribute to the above stated topic.
I am playing as Epeiros and had the same reaction from my PC (shut down and restart) when in an battle outside Rome seconds before a unit of Campanian Cavalry (Romani) hits my Phalangitai Deuteroi line. I tried this battle twice and the same thing happen.
If you have any more clues how to overcame this, i would very grateful. thank you in advance.
Keep up the great work.
I think it's more likely that it's a bug with the Campanian cavalry, as reported.
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