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Away till saturday. Have fun. ~:)
Fos:
kamikhaan
Caius
Beefy
Andres
Dont go without giving any reasoning. Don't throw **** everywhere, bro.
Beefy187
12-06-2007, 13:40
Just to let you know Andres is dead along with Mr Shlin who got killed and TB who got wogged...
So im crippled why bother FOSing me? :sweatdrop:
So im crippled why bother FOSing me? :sweatdrop:
Because he is mafia and wants to throw around suspicion...
Craterus
12-06-2007, 23:32
Just to let you know Andres is dead along with Mr Shlin who got killed and TB who got wogged...
So im crippled why bother FOSing me? :sweatdrop:
It doesn't mean you're not an assassin. You'd just have to coast to victory.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
12-07-2007, 17:57
Night IV Conclusion
FactionHeir had gone out for a walk to the beach at the edge of camp. He couldn't sleep, and felt that a trip outside to inhale the desert air would remove this problem.
As he sat on the shoreline, another man sat next to him. Before FactionHeir could even speak to this stranger, FactionHeir had his head deep underneath the water. As FactionHeir issued his final chock and splutter, the mysterious attacker picked up his now lifeless body, and threw it out to sea. His corpse was found drifting in the shallows upon the following morning.
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Day V begins! With twelve alive, it takes six votes upon one player to result in a lynch. Likewise, six votes for the no lynch option will result in no lynch. If no choice has been made after 72 hours (approximately 17:00 GMT on the 10th of December), then no lynch will occur.
Alive (12)
Beefy187
Brave_Sir_Robin
Caius
Craterus
Charge
Cheetah
Dutch_guy
Ichigo
kamikhaan
Killfr3nzy
RoadKill
Sarathos
Replaced (2)
pevergreen (edyzmedieval - D3)
Warmaster Horus (Bijo - N4)
Lynched (2)
Andres (D1)
sapi (D4)
Killed (2)
shlin28 (N2)
edyzmedieval (N3)
FactionHeir (N4)
WoGed (1)
Twilightblade
Suicide (1)
Bijo
Potential WoG/Replacement Victims
Sarathos
Dutch_guy
Killfr3nzy
This list was generated from the players who have under twelve posts (the average) in the thread, and failed to vote last round. Two of the above will be WoGed at random, regardless of role, should they fail to vote this phase.
If I were alive, I would Vote : Cheetah...
Alas...
FactionHeir
12-07-2007, 20:09
I doubt it was Cheetah.
I'm more inclined to say it was the mole in my team or the mafia in general who are annoyed at losing one of their own to the lynch. Btw, how can we even be sure that you aren't a dead mafia?
Craterus
12-07-2007, 20:25
vote: Sarathos
Bare minimum of activity and I don't seem to remember him saying much at all. Seems like the town is in real trouble now though. I get the feeling we haven't lynched many assassins.
I guess I'll stick with my original thoughts from before.
Vote:Charge
Also, Andres why do you think Cheetah is mafia?
How can I be WoGed when I'm dead? :inquisitive:
Craterus
12-07-2007, 21:10
unvote Sarathos, vote Brave_Sir_Robin
I'm going back to my original gut feeling but I still think Sarathos may still be guilty.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
12-07-2007, 21:14
How can I be WoGed when I'm dead? :inquisitive:Sorry shlin, I somehow forgot that you had been killed. Thanks for informing me though - otherwise I'd probably have made a fool of myself at the end of the round ~:(
FactionHeir
12-07-2007, 21:19
Your title ought to be "Senile Moderator" :grin:
Craterus
12-07-2007, 21:26
https://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/Craterus/gpoll.jpg
Vote:Caterus
I think you are hiding something.
I'll stick with my too
Vote: Roadkill
after killing FH it is even more clearly;
RoadKill
12-08-2007, 06:23
This is an obvious n00b tatic Charge, seeing as how your unexperienced mafia player, you heard my explaination on you and Factionehier, so automatically you killed FH to make it look like I wanted to get rid of him. But that is extremly stupid as if I was the mole in the group I wouldn't have supported FH on the fact of lynching Sapi since we both believed he was mafia. Nice try though.
Vote: Charge
I killed FH?? lol
Infact you didn't supported him. it's not an alibi.
FactionHeir
12-08-2007, 13:40
TBH I got no idea which one of the two it is, but it is one of them...
I am somewhat more inclined to say its Charge though, because he contacted both Roadkill and myself on N1 asking who to kill and then after that failed, stayed quiet throughout.
Craterus
12-08-2007, 13:41
Vote Tally
Charge - 2 (Ichigo, RoadKill)
BSR - 1 (Craterus)
Craterus - 1 (Caius)
RK - 1 (Charge)
Hmmm, this isn't going to get us anywhere.
I am somewhat more inclined to say its Charge though, because he contacted both Roadkill and myself on N1 asking who to kill and then after that failed, stayed quiet throughout.you mean N4?
spy infiltrated us, so obviously he won't give permission to kill mafioso, only innocent townie, which is not sounds good ..:sweatdrop:
so I didn't bothered to help assassins last night..
Tratorix
12-09-2007, 20:22
you mean N4?
spy infiltrated us, so obviously he won't give permission to kill mafioso, only innocent townie, which is not sounds good ..:sweatdrop:
so I didn't bothered to help assassins last night..
~:confused:
Vote: Charge
FH vouched for Roadkill, so it's kinda obvious.
Craterus
12-09-2007, 20:29
unvote BSR, vote Charge
Vote Tally
Charge - 4 (Ichigo, RoadKill, Craterus, Brave_Sir_Robin)
Craterus - 1 (Caius)
RK - 1 (Charge)
EDIT: 6 votes for a lynch and, at the moment, at least 2 people are going to get WoG because none of the potential have voted.
I trust FH. Let's get it done.
vote: Charge
My vote still stand for Craterus(please note Omanes wrote it incorrectly), as Craterus did NOT made any reference to my post. This leads to me to think Craterus is hiding something.
Craterus
12-10-2007, 18:32
What's to reference? You think I'm hiding something, that's all you've said. At least one of us is "hiding something", that's kind of the aim of the game.
So basically you've got a gut feeling that it's me. I say this because I can't remember you giving any other, more substantial, reasons for my lynching. I don't really think I need to respond until I'm under proper suspicion with proper reasons. ~:)
Omanes Alexandrapolites
12-10-2007, 19:16
Day V Conclusion
As the sun set upon yet another day, the crusaders were disapointed at their inability to yet again earn the required number of votes. Many believed that the indecisivness of the entire group would result in Hashashin victory.
In other news, Sarathos had apparently died when his tent collapsed upon him. Apparently it had been noticably falling apart for many days now. The only conclusion that could be reached was that Sarathos had simply been too inactive to notice its instability.
Dutch_guy, on the other hand, had made the choice of leaving camp. Nobody knows exactly why he left, although "gossip" claims that he was enduring traumatic dreams which involved Hashashin killing him and cannibalising his corpse.
Tally:
Charge - 5 (Ichigo, RoadKill, Craterus, Brave_Sir_Robin, Cheetah)
Craterus - 1 (Caius)
RoadKill - 1 (Charge)
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Night V begins! All orders must be in by aproximately 17:00 GMT on the 11th of December.
Alive (10)
Beefy187
Brave_Sir_Robin
Caius
Craterus
Charge
Cheetah
Ichigo
kamikhaan
Killfr3nzy
RoadKill
Replaced (2)
pevergreen (edyzmedieval - D3)
Warmaster Horus (Bijo - N4)
Lynched (2)
Andres (D1)
sapi (D4)
Killed (3)
shlin28 (N2)
edyzmedieval (N3)
FactionHeir (N4)
WoGed (2)
Twilightblade (D3)
Sarathos (D5)
Suicide (2)
Bijo (D4)
Dutch_guy (D5)
Yes, we are too inactive to win. More disturbingly we have not heard a word from our investigators or herbalists (assuming we still have them, though I fear that we lost at least one of them).
Beefy187
12-11-2007, 13:08
Its probebly Killfr3nzy :sweatdrop:
Can we lynch him?
Omanes Alexandrapolites
12-11-2007, 18:08
Night V Conclusion
Charge awoke abruptly in the middle of the night, only to find himself surrounded by two armed and armoured men in the middle of the camp. Each man was cladded in heavy chainmail and was pointing a sharp pointed sword at his neck, both of the weapons glinting with an eerie glow in the moonlight.
All of a sudden, these merciless pieces of equipment were plunged into him at once, followed by random stabbings across his body to ensure that his soul truly was removed from this world. As Charge cried in agony, the killers solemnly wandered away from his corpse, uttering no sound or murmur whatsoever.
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Craterus was awoken by a tapping on the side of her tent. When she left the tent to try and see who was performing this annoying action, an arrow was lodged into her heart - instantaneously and mercilessly killing her off.
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Day VI begins! With eight alive, it takes five votes upon one person to result in a lynch. Likewise it takes five votes to be placed upon the no lynch option for no lynch to occur. If no conclusion is reached by 17:00 GMT on the 14th of December then no lynch with occur.
Alive (8)
Beefy187
Brave_Sir_Robin
Caius
Cheetah
Ichigo
kamikhaan
Killfr3nzy
RoadKill
Replaced (2)
pevergreen (edyzmedieval - D3)
Warmaster Horus (Bijo - N4)
Lynched (2)
Andres (D1)
sapi (D4)
Killed (5)
shlin28 (N2)
edyzmedieval (N3)
FactionHeir (N4)
Craterus (N5)
Charge (N5)
WoGed (2)
Twilightblade (D3)
Sarathos (D5)
Suicide (2)
Bijo (D4)
Dutch_guy (D5)
Potential WoG Victims
Killfr3nzy
kamikhaan
This list was generated from the players who have under twelve posts (the average) in the thread, and failed to vote last round. Both of the above will be WoGed should they fail to vote this phase.
FactionHeir
12-11-2007, 19:01
Craterus is female? :inquisitive:
Craterus
12-11-2007, 20:40
Oh... :sad: how could they?
So, you guys are still not lynching Cheetah? And how about Ichigo?
Beefy187
12-12-2007, 13:52
Vote: Killfr3nzy
Inactive. Yet living until this day. He must be guilty.
I confess. I, Beefy187, am guilty. My accomplices are Cheetah and Ichigo
C'mon townies. Lynch'em! :whip:
FactionHeir
12-12-2007, 16:15
I think Caius or BSR are the remaining mafia.
Cheetah obviously is innocent.
I think Caius or BSR are the remaining mafia.
Why do you think so?
Cheetah obviously is innocent.
Why is that obvious?
FactionHeir
12-12-2007, 18:26
Its obvious because his teammate sapi was mafia and there is only 1 per group unless is a full mafia group.
As for why BSR and/or Caius, I think we can rule out Cheetah and Roadkill. KF and khaan are about to get WoGed, leaving Beefy, BSR and Caius. If Beefy is in Cheetah's group and therefore innocent, then that leaves BSR and Caius.
Craterus
12-12-2007, 20:08
Ugh, town's doomed anyway. Am I allowed to reveal? I feel I might have some information that might help the town and the first post just says no role PM quoting.
Ugh, town's doomed anyway. Am I allowed to reveal? I feel I might have some information that might help the town and the first post just says no role PM quoting.
I am afraid you are a bit too late. The dead cannot reveal info that is not know already. You can keep arguing though. ~;)
Why is that obvious?
You will never give up, will you? ~;p
At this stage I can give you only one advice ....
As for why BSR and/or Caius, I think we can rule out Cheetah and Roadkill. KF and khaan are about to get WoGed, leaving Beefy, BSR and Caius. If Beefy is in Cheetah's group and therefore innocent, then that leaves BSR and Caius.
Beefy is not in my group (he was in the Andres, shlin, TB, Beefy group) but IMO he is not assasin (max a mole).
Caius was suspect to me too because his attacks on Craterus, for which he could give no reasonable explanation at all. Craterus being killed by the assasins makes these attacks even more suspicious.
BSR was never suspect to me. He is just your average guy, never too loud, always voting with the pack. ... this is perhaps though how a clever assasin would play it. ~;)
All in all, while I partly agree with you, yet we have no evidence against any of them.
I think at this point we shall ask the remaining crusaders to reveal their groups.
So far not revealing these groups made sense to protect our townie role players but I suspect that all of them might be dead (or inactive) by now. Which means that we have nothing to lose.
I think one townie role was pever/edyz. Pevergreen's naive comment gave him away ("sry forgot to send orders") and since the maffia knew he is not amongst them they killed his replecament asap.
The other townie role it seems was Craterus, who was killed before he could have revealed what he knew (IMO he was waiting too long).
We might have an other herbalist or inspector but given the number of inactive ppl (got WOGed) I doubt that he would be active.
All in all, IMO we have nothing to lose at this stage, therefor I would like to ask the surviving crusaders to reveal their groups.
Also, I ask Caius and BSR to reveal their groups too.
Ok, I will reveal. I'm a townie without group. The others have died. I'm very vulnerable, since I'm alone.
Now, I will believe Andres, Cheetah could be mafia, as he is enjoying that Craterus is dead and she can't give us information.
Vote:Cheetah
Who were the others? And why should we trust you?
Also, you are not vulnerable exactly because you are alone, i.e. you are not a threat to the maffia.
RoadKill
12-12-2007, 22:52
Wait... Wait... Wait.... did charge get killed or lynched?
FactionHeir
12-13-2007, 00:16
He got killed by a crusader group of 2. Presumable Cheetah's.
RoadKill
12-13-2007, 00:36
Okay, this game is confusing, haha. Anyways. I think Cheetah is lieing. I find it very fishy how his team of crusaders are a team of two.... just like the mafia. And he is just using it as an excuse to kill.
Vote: Cheetah
Beefy187
12-13-2007, 00:52
meh ma plans not working ah well...
Im leaving in 30 min time so merry christmas and happy new year!! Lynch Killfr3nzy
seireikhaan
12-13-2007, 02:07
Vote: Cheetah
I still think he's guilty.
Okay, this game is confusing, haha. Anyways. I think Cheetah is lieing. I find it very fishy how his team of crusaders are a team of two.... just like the mafia. And he is just using it as an excuse to kill.
Vote: Cheetah
Lieing in exactly what? Please explain it to me.
Also, could you please read the thread before making up your assumptions. We had a group of three. Sapi was lynched. Perhaps you remember he was the one your group tried to kill.
1, What proof you had the I killed Charge?
2, Why is it a problem to you? After all he was a mole. Or do you want to say that you are the mole and Charge was innocent?
3, How is it that it is fine for your group (without any proof by the way) to go out and kill someone but if a mole killed you find it "suspicious"?
Vote: Cheetah
I still think he's guilty.
Based on what? Please explain.
So far none of you presented any kind of proof that I would be guilty.
Also, you are blatantly ignoring all the evidence we have, i.e. that both sapi and Ichigo confirmed that I am in the same group.
To explain my previous FOS it is based on how frequently these poeple post and with what purpose.
khamikhaan only posts when the "Cheetah bandwagon" is on the move and he never ever justified his vote with any kind of evidence.
Same for Andres, he is basically head-hunting, his only puspose in this game to lynch me. Just as khamikhaan he never presented any evidence so far, and blatantly ignores the facts that we have (i.e. that sapi and Ichigo confirmed that I am their team mate). Also, he displays a level of ignorance towards the facts and stubborness in his head-hunting that I am not willing to attribute to an experineced maffia player. The only reasonable explanation that he is a man with a mission (i.e. a mole on a mission to manipulate the town), if not then he is better to start to write his apology because he did more harm to the town than anyone else in this game including the assasins.
Beefy because he always plays it up to Andres. Though he can be just that naive. I would believe that ...
Caius because of his unsupported accusations. I find him less suspicious atm.
Tratorix
12-13-2007, 03:10
I find Cheetahs defensiveness to be rather suspicious. He seems to be jumping at accusations more and more as the game goes on.
Also, you are blatantly ignoring all the evidence we have, i.e. that both sapi and Ichigo confirmed that I am in the same group.
sapi was lynched for being mafia. So, how do we know you and Ichigo aren't mafia, grouping together to appear like a townie group?
Vote: Cheetah
Originally Posted by Beefy187
I confess. I, Beefy187, am guilty. My accomplices are Cheetah and Ichigo
C'mon townies. Lynch'em! :whip:
Also, this is a blatant lie. Beefy was in a group with Andres, Tb and shlin. I was in a group with sapi and Ichigo.
No one finds it suspicious that Andres posting lies (quoting Beefy BTW)?
Do you still believe someone who messed up the previous game and posting lies in this one?
:wall:
I find Cheetahs defensiveness to be rather suspicious. He seems to be jumping at accusations more and more as the game goes on.
sapi was lynched for being mafia. So, how do we know you and Ichigo aren't mafia, grouping together to appear like a townie group?
Vote: Cheetah
Wont you be defensive when ppl trying to lynch you?
Also, does it ever occured to you the innocent ppl would try to defend themsleves too?
Do you really think that if I am the maffia then the last thing I do before ppl lynch me is to reveal my group? Do you really think that an assasin would have revealed the other two (!!) assasins when he is threatened to be lynched?
Also, please all check out the votes Craterus made before he died:
Andres (dead, but probably a mole)
Beefy (alive, close ally of Andres, max a mole, but more likely just naive)
sapi twice (dead, probably a mole)
BSR (alive)
Sarathos (Woged)
BSR
Charge (dead, probably a mole)
The only people alive, who can be an assasin is BSR.
Vote:BSR
The other assasin most likely, based on his eagerness to jump on the Cheetah bandwagon (without presenting any proof ofc) is kamikhaan.
ps. we are still awaiting for BSR and kamikhaan to reveal their groups. How is it not suspicious to anyone that they still have not revealed it?
Tratorix
12-13-2007, 03:39
Also, please all check out the votes Craterus made before he died:
Andres (dead, but probably a mole)
Beefy (alive, close ally of Andres, max a mole, but more likely just naive)
sapi twice (dead, probably a mole)
BSR (alive)
Sarathos (Woged)
BSR
Charge (dead, probably a mole)
The only people alive, who can be an assasin is BSR.
This is, of course, assuming that Craterus knew who the mafia members were throughout pretty much the whole game. Your assuming that Craterus only voted for guilty people. Why?
As for my remark about you being defensive, it's not that you are trying to defend yourself, it's the lengths you are trying to go to. You're making lists of three posts in a row trying to prove your innocence. A regular townie doesn't have that much to lose if they are lynched.
As for my group, I didn't really want to reveal it, since the mafia will then no doubt kill off either me or my remaining partner to neutralize us. But, since that will most likely happen anyway now, my partners are Dutch_Guy(dead) and kamikhaan.
my partners are Dutch_Guy(dead) and kamikhaan.
Thank you. :bow: This proves that kamikhaan is the other assasin.
I never said that Craterus always voted for guilty ppl, as he voted for Beefy (who, as said, might be just too naive) and voted for Sarathos whom we do not know about. However, as a townie role he is expected to have some insider info, which he hinted, and based on that he is expected to have a better hit ratio than a normal townie. Also, he twice voted for you.
Also, please read FH's argument why only Caius, you and kamikhaan (who at that time was threatened to be WOGed but suddenly returned when he saw the Cheetah bandwagon) can be the assasins.
Since Caius revelead that he is alone (which you indirectly confirmed), and you revealed that you are with kamikhaan, therefor you two are the assasins (out of the three possible candidates). :bow:
seireikhaan
12-13-2007, 04:22
Look, here's your problem, Cheetah. You seem to be under the impression that the town is only to lynch people if there is irrefutable proof that a certain person is guilty. I have no absolute proof that you're guilty, that should've been clear. However, you're exhibiting traditional signs of somewhat inexperienced mafia behavior. Neutral posts(early on, until you were spotted on it), not wanting to lynch w/out proof(usually done by inexperienced mafia, in an attempt to "not want to lynch innocents"), using WIFOM, and now extreme defensiveness. No worries, mate, I got lynched my first time as mafia too.~:pat: Also, I find it rather odd that you have seemed rather intent on discrediting Andres right from the beginning, even from the time of his lynch. A rather smart move from any mafioso, as Andres tends to be right more often than not when innocent.
Also, I find it rather odd that you have seemed rather intent on discrediting Andres right from the beginning, even from the time of his lynch. A rather smart move from any mafioso, as Andres tends to be right more often than not when innocent.
nice try but:
1, Andres messed up the previous game completely. Check it out for yourself.
2, I never tried to discredit him, I just pointed out that he is head-hunting without presenting any proof (just like you :yes: ), please check out his posts.
3, You still do not have any proof.
On the other hand we have the trail (of votes) Craterus left behind and BSR revealing that you two work together.
seireikhaan
12-13-2007, 05:08
Nope. Here's the problem. Neither you or Ichigo have been cleared of innocence. Its quite apparent that Sapi was guilty. Thus, it is entirely possible that both you and Ichigo are guilty. Furthermore, Ichigo's quite off his regular posting patter as usual, he usually is quite aloof in mafia games, however here, he's lurking a lot. Meanwhile, I have already stated why you are very likely mafia, reasons which you have not in actuality refuted. Also, I didn't state that Andres was infallible, just that he's usually more spot on than others. And guess what? He happens to be right. Oh, and you actually have no proof anyways, as you yourself and Ichigo are just as suspicious, if not more.
Oh, and as I stated earlier, you seem to want to wait for proof, and all that does is slow mafia games down to a screeching halt to await their imminent death. The whole fun part of mafia is figuring out who's mafia when you don't have proof, not waiting around for hardcore proof to show up. That just causes games to die, as nobody participates, and the game becomes boring.
RoadKill
12-13-2007, 05:18
Cheetah, now its plain obvious your hiding something. Triple posting? Wow someone is scared to be lynch. :beam: My vote stands. And Its really confusing. My team of 3 crusaders, was me, FH, and Charge. Obviously you (Cheetah, and whoever your team mate was) killed Charge because me and Fh threw big assumptions at him being the mole with our theory about Sapi, and therefore you used that idea and killed Charge which may have been your own mole, but you killed him anyways because you wanted to hide the fact about Sapi being mafia, therefore destroying your cover, because that would result me in looking like the mole. And if I was the actual mole, I wouldn't be trying so hard to get you lynched and arguing with you.
So therefore logic wins again.
Kamikhaan, suddenly how active we are? Lurking through most of the game, with the occasional "vote:Cheetah", then suddenly writing paragraphs how suspicious I was. What for this "extreme defensiveness"? :laugh4:
Also, I have not refuted your reasons becuase you gave me none. You gave only fuzzy accusations like the above "extreme defensiveness" or that silly WIFOM argument.
Actually I was one of the few in this game (the other was FH) who tried to argue his position instead of casting random votes or going after his "feelings".
Last but not least, I have reached conclusion. We have two assasins: BSR and kamikhaan. It was not easy to get you two out of your hiding but the death Craterus gave me the key.
As for my innocence: we both voted for sapi with Ichigo. Why would have we asisted the killing of a fellow assasin? Also, last night there were two killing. One assasin group and one crusader. The assasins killed Craterus (because he was a townie role) and the crusaders killed Charge (because he was a mole). Please check out the day votes for Charge, who voted for him and who tried to save him. You could have killed Charge with a day vote but you did not vote for him. Therefor you could not be the one who kill him at night. Therefor you were in the assasin group.
So, we have reached the same conclusion now using two different approach. Is that enough now or you want more?
Cheetah, now its plain obvious your hiding something. Triple posting? Wow someone is scared to be lynch. :beam:
Triple posting??? Where? I am just responding to ppl. What can I do if the forum suddenly got so busy? Also have not you thought about why BSR and kamikhaan got so active lately?
My vote stands.
That is too bad. Because the town will lose because of you.
And Its really confusing.
For you. Please read my arguments before you post, not just note that I am "triple posting".
My team of 3 crusaders, was me, FH, and Charge.
Yes, and please ask FH if you do not trust me.
Obviously you (Cheetah, and whoever your team mate was) killed Charge
Yes me and Ichigo killed Charge because he was a mole. But then who killed Craterus and why? Please use your head! Beefy is alone, Caius is alone, you are alone, KF is inactive. We have only one more group: BSR and kamikhaan! They have even admitted it. Why did they killed Craterus? Because he was getting closer to them. What is so complicated about it?
because me and Fh threw big assumptions at him being the mole with our theory about Sapi, and therefore you used that idea and killed Charge which may have been your own mole, but you killed him anyways because you wanted to hide the fact about Sapi being mafia, therefore destroying your cover, because that would result me in looking like the mole. And if I was the actual mole, I wouldn't be trying so hard to get you lynched and arguing with you.
So just to cover myself I killed both sapi and Charge (who according to you were indeed moles). Then please answer me the question: why did BSR and kamikhaan killed Craterus?
Also please note that the killers of Charge were wearing chain mail, i.e. they were crusaders!
So therefore logic wins again.
I do hope ....
seireikhaan
12-13-2007, 06:08
Nah, the game's just a bit more juicy now that its been pared down. Anyways:
Once again, you're using WIFOM. Mafia have thrown each other under the bus plenty of times when its clear their partner was in an untenable position. Sapi had lots of votes for him, and most were convinced of his guilt. Thus, it could make a nice defense for you and Ichigo to vote your apparently guilty partner, to make people suspect you less later on in the game. And Ichigo's plenty smart enough to do it. Thus, that argument fails.
Also, if you had played enough mafia, you would realize that inexperienced mafia have a tendency, though not always, to be very defensive. As you have been, to an extreme. Thus, that reason is not at all "fuzzy". Furthermore, so is your very neutral posting at the beginning of the game, and trying to avoid lynching unless given complete proof. These are hardly "fuzzy" reasons.
Next, I never claimed in anyway that Charge was innocent. Please point out where I said he was. I merely have been after you because you have been clearly scum from the start, and yet the town has still not lynched you despite numerous reasons for it.
Also, how could the assassin have killed Craterus because of having a pro-town role? You wouldn't have had any knowledge of this, surely?
Groups consist of typically Normal Crusaders and Hashashin Spies, although the former always has the majority over a group at the start of the game. Each group contains three or more members, and everybody in a group knows the identity of their fellow comrades.
:laugh4:
FactionHeir
12-13-2007, 09:38
I think Cheetah actually has a point, especially since Craterus was a townie role.
If I were alive, I would vote BSR or khaan.
Next, I never claimed in anyway that Charge was innocent. Please point out where I said he was. I merely have been after you because you have been clearly scum from the start, and yet the town has still not lynched you despite numerous reasons for it.
That is not my argument. Though, I do not blame you that you dont follow my arguments ... My argument is that you could have easily killed Charge with a lynch vote. You did not. So why would have you and BSR bother to kill him at night when you did not killed him at daylight? On the other hand both me and Ichogo voted for Charge. The vote was one vote short of the majority so we had no choice but to kill him at night.
Also, how could the assassin have killed Craterus because of having a pro-town role? You wouldn't have had any knowledge of this, surely?
Craterus' comment after her(?) death and the fact that she always kept the tally of votes strongly suggests that she had a townie role. I do not know how the assasins found out her role (though there were really few other choices left) but I am sure you can fill out the details. ~;)
Also, Craterus while you cannot reveal new info but you can say which side you agree with. Please do it ASAP.
Craterus
12-13-2007, 21:53
To be honest, I don't know anymore. I had "inklings" (NOTHING CONCLUSIVE) early in the game that BSR was a suspect. But, Cheetah, you have to understand that your behaviour is very suspicious. It could be that you're trying very hard to turn this into a town victory but lots of posts can mean something else.
I don't even know who I'd vote for if I were alive right now.
EDIT: In hindsight, I made a lot of mistakes, definitely could have helped a lot more.
"very suspicious" ..meh just because I make the effort to argue rather then through random accusation???
With your post we lost the game ... Please read my argument and make a stand.
ps. If I would be a maffioso why would I bother to make all those posts? If I understand it correctly you are saying that I am suspicious because I do post? And the arguments I wrote? That is nothing? Just the length of the post ... :wall:
Craterus
12-13-2007, 22:34
It just seems like you're trying too hard. That's all.
And anyway, I don't know why you're looking to me, I can't say a lot and I don't want to say something I shouldn't. Like I said, there may or may not have been evidence to suggest that Brave_Sir_Robin was part of an all-mafia group. I'm not sure if this theory even stands up anymore, but those were my suspicions while I was alive.
With khaan and BSR left in a group it is impossible for them to both be mafia, unless there was more than 3 people in their group. With that at least one of them are mafia, and at this point I'm leaning more towards khaan as the one that's guilty.
His continuous vote's on one person shows that he may be trying to hiding his guilt. Doing this makes it to where he doesn't have to make any real decision other than voicing over and over how he feels about Cheetah. What about the other people khaan? Why no thoughts on anyone else?
Vote:kamikhaan
Ichigo, they are the maffia, they are not a normal group, both of them are assasins. Also, Dutch_guy was not killed, he left the game.
Just in short what we know:
1, BSR and kamikhaan is in the same group (they admitted).
2, They killed Craterus (because no one else could done it; also, they do not deny it).
What else you need?
BTW, I do note care which one of them we lynch first.
Unvote. Vote:kamikhaan
RoadKill
12-14-2007, 01:41
Hmm...
Unvote
Ichigo, they are the maffia, they are not a normal group, both of them are assasins. Also, Dutch_guy was not killed, he left the game.
Just in short what we know:
1, BSR and kamikhaan is in the same group (they admitted).
2, They killed Craterus (because no one else could done it; also, they do not deny it).
What else you need?
BTW, I do note care which one of them we lynch first.
Unvote. Vote:kamikhaan
Impossible, it would have been like our kill of Charge. According to the rules the mafia will not have a majority in a group. So I don't think it's possible for both of them to be mafia.
The Hashashin Assassins are never part of a group and act independently.
They are two assasins pretending to be a group of crusaders. What is not clear about this? Assasins are not part of the crusader groups, they are alone; but since there are two they can easily claim that they belong to the same "group".
seireikhaan
12-14-2007, 03:50
Ichigo, they are the maffia, they are not a normal group, both of them are assasins. Also, Dutch_guy was not killed, he left the game.
Just in short what we know:
1, BSR and kamikhaan is in the same group (they admitted).
2, They killed Craterus (because no one else could done it; also, they do not deny it).
What else you need?
BTW, I do note care which one of them we lynch first.
Unvote. Vote:kamikhaan
And now saving your own skin with a desperation vote?
First of all, there is in fact no evidence that it was your group that killed Charge. You and Ichigo both are claiming you did, but that is as far as you can go. You're "ironclad evidence" is in fact a sham. For all the rest of us know, you and Ichigo in fact killed Craterus, while me and BSR killed Charge. And what a covenient cover it would make for you and Ichi, since it was so likely that Charge was going to be killed anyway, as he was under so much suspicion to begin with. Oh, and in case you were wondering, scum, BSR and I did in fact kill Charge. So you and you're mafia buddy Ichigo must have killed Craterus.
Also, am I supposed to have to deny it? I assumed that was rather obvious, nobody says "I'm mafia, I killed the pro-town role"(well, unless your a spartan, but wtvr).
Now, who is displaying "extreme defensiveness"? :laugh4: ~;)
Kamikhaan, you could have easily killed Charge with a lynch vote (we were one vote short of a majority). You did not. Why? Only to kill him at night? Sorry, but it makes no sense.
And now saving your own skin with a desperation vote?
First of all, there is in fact no evidence that it was your group that killed Charge. You and Ichigo both are claiming you did, but that is as far as you can go. You're "ironclad evidence" is in fact a sham. For all the rest of us know, you and Ichigo in fact killed Craterus, while me and BSR killed Charge. And what a covenient cover it would make for you and Ichi, since it was so likely that Charge was going to be killed anyway, as he was under so much suspicion to begin with. Oh, and in case you were wondering, scum, BSR and I did in fact kill Charge. So you and you're mafia buddy Ichigo must have killed Craterus.
Also, am I supposed to have to deny it? I assumed that was rather obvious, nobody says "I'm mafia, I killed the pro-town role"(well, unless your a spartan, but wtvr).
Why? Your claim makes no sense. You've voted Cheetah every round except for the first one. Why would you kill Charge and not Cheetah? It would stand to reason that you would kill Cheetah and not Charge, but why would you lie? Give up now khaan your supposed kill doesn't match up with your behavior in this thread.
Also, the Charge kill points to two players, while the kill on Craterus wasn't specific. I assumed that me and Cheetah killed Charge and someone else (mafia most likely) killed Craterus.
RoadKill
12-14-2007, 05:20
Change of mind from Ichigo
Vote: Kamikhan
PS: Why didn't you joing my mafia ichigo... It would have been so much more awsome.
This is the only thread I look at in here. Sorry, didn't realize you had a game.
They are two assasins pretending to be a group of crusaders. What is not clear about this? Assasins are not part of the crusader groups, they are alone; but since there are two they can easily claim that they belong to the same "group".
WRONG !
BIG MISTAKE THERE CHEETAH.
If you'd have gotten a crusader pm, you would have known that it said something in the lines of "there migth be an Hashashin spy in your group."
Talking about 100 % conclusive evidence...
Caius we need your vote vs kamikhaan. Beefy is on holidays, KF is inactive.
If you'd have gotten a crusader pm, you would have known that it said something in the lines of "there migth be an Hashashin spy in your group."
Good old Andres turns up against .... ~:rolleyes:
Please at least read the description of the game before you fabricate your accusations. From the first page:
The Hashashin Assassins are never part of a group and act independently. Each individual assasin may kill one person on assigned nights. They are aligned to the Hashashin cause, and know who all the other Hashashin Spies and Assassins are.
They are assasins and not spies, is that so difficult to understand?
seireikhaan
12-14-2007, 14:11
Why? Your claim makes no sense. You've voted Cheetah every round except for the first one. Why would you kill Charge and not Cheetah? It would stand to reason that you would kill Cheetah and not Charge, but why would you lie? Give up now khaan your supposed kill doesn't match up with your behavior in this thread.
Also, the Charge kill points to two players, while the kill on Craterus wasn't specific. I assumed that me and Cheetah killed Charge and someone else (mafia most likely) killed Craterus.
Simple: I've been crunched for time in the last week or two due to pre-semester final exam exams, and I stopped checking this thread for a few days until BSR had told me that it was night again. He was the one who suggested to kill charge, and I pretty much went with it because I assumed that Cheetah was going to be lynched anyways on account of the fact that he's been acting so scummy all game long. Also, when I reread the thread, it became pretty clear that Charge was probably a mole, so I didn't care too much in what order the mafia fell, just as long as they died.
Oh, and wouldn't you, of all people, know if you killed someone, Ichigo?:inquisitive:
Omanes Alexandrapolites
12-14-2007, 18:06
Day VI Conclusion:
After intense and fanatical debating between a few of the reaming crusaders, all that was reached was an equalised number of votes for two individuals - Cheetah and kamikhaan.
In other news Killfr3nzy had fallen ill and had died of a peculiar foreign illness. This was hard to diagnose however, since his body had been torn up by a local vulture colony who seemed to have hacked their way into his tent to consume his decomposing flesh.
Tally:
Cheetah - 3 (Caius, kamikhaan, Brave_Sir_Robin)
kamikhaan - 3 (Cheetah, Ichigo, RoadKill)
Killfr3zy - 1 (Beefy187)
****
Night VI begins! All actions must be in by approximately 17:00 GMT on the 15th of December.
Alive (7)
Beefy187
Brave_Sir_Robin
Caius
Cheetah
Ichigo
kamikhaan
RoadKill
Replaced (2)
pevergreen (edyzmedieval - D3)
Warmaster Horus (Bijo - N4)
Lynched (2)
Andres (D1)
sapi (D4)
Killed (5)
shlin28 (N2)
edyzmedieval (N3)
FactionHeir (N4)
Craterus (N5)
Charge (N5)
WoGed (3)
Twilightblade (D3)
Sarathos (D5)
Killfr3nzy (D6)
Suicide (2)
Bijo (D4)
Dutch_guy (D5)
As far as I understand Beefy is away, so I kinldy ask Omanes to WOG him.
Vote: beefy
He's going on vacation anyways.
woad&fangs from the resident evil thread.
Also, if the town will lose this game you can thank it to Caius.
Craterus
12-14-2007, 18:45
Now you just sound eager to get rid of more players..
Simple: I've been crunched for time in the last week or two due to pre-semester final exam exams, and I stopped checking this thread for a few days until BSR had told me that it was night again. He was the one who suggested to kill charge, and I pretty much went with it because I assumed that Cheetah was going to be lynched anyways on account of the fact that he's been acting so scummy all game long. Also, when I reread the thread, it became pretty clear that Charge was probably a mole, so I didn't care too much in what order the mafia fell, just as long as they died.
Oh, and wouldn't you, of all people, know if you killed someone, Ichigo?:inquisitive:
Yeah, alright khaan. So, you magically come back kill Charge, reread the entire thread, and then decide that Charge was probably a mole after you sent in the kill. Sounds fishy to me. Doesn't sound like something a townie would do. For a guy who claims to be crunched for time you sure do have a lot of it.:thumbsdown:
Is there a chance the kill could have failed? Is there a chance another group could have killed Charge? There's a lot of black area that can't be proven either way.
Now you just sound eager to get rid of more players..
Could you just count how many we have before you write down silly accusations?
We have 7. Maffia kills 1 townie, that is 6. Majority rule would require 4 votes. With Beefy inactive and the 2 assasins alive we will never get 4 votes. If Beefy is kept in the game despite his inactivity and despite the fact that he said he will be away then the town lost the game.
you can thank it to Caius.
What the hell? I can't wake up to play mafia!
Anyway, I still think YOU are the mafia.
RoadKill
12-14-2007, 22:41
BELEIVE ANDRES. He is write, the crusader pm does include this. Cheetah is the assassin. I made a mistake we must lynch him next turn.
This is hopeless ...
BSR & kamikhaan you won. Congratulations. :bow:
This is hopeless ...
BSR & kamikhaan you won. Congratulations. :bow:
Why do you want to lynch Beefy? Beefy, without playing, can give us a possibility to win! Or you want to give the mafia a step more of victory?
Did you actually read what I wrote???
I want to lynch khamikaan and BSR.
Beefy is inactive.
If Beefy counts we wont be able to get a majority because he is inactive.
Just as a sidenote (because I am sceptical that anyone will pay attention to the argument presented here, only to the lenght of the post :laugh4: ): assuming that BSR and kamikhaan are the assasins can explain why there was no kill on the first night.
From the rules:
The Hashashin Assassins are never part of a group and act independently. Each individual assasin may kill one person on assigned nights. They are aligned to the Hashashin cause, and know who all the other Hashashin Spies and Assassins are.
The most reasonable interpretation is that one of the assasins can kill on: N1, N3, N5, etc; the other can kill on: N2, N4, N6, etc.
The only logical explanation for the lack of kill on the first night is that the assasin who could have killed was inactive. And guess who was inactive till N2? kamikhaan. He was even threatened to be WOGed.
So:
N1 kamikhaan inactive
N2 BSR kills shlin
N3 kamikhaan kills edyzmedieval
N4 BSR kills FH
N5 kamikhaan kills Craterus
N6 BSR kills ... ???
Have fun!!!! :laugh4:
BELEIVE ANDRES. He is write, the crusader pm does include this. Cheetah is the assassin. I made a mistake we must lynch him next turn.
What is he right about?
What is he right about?
I am always right. I am infallible :whip:
Bow for the Gameroom God :whip:
And I can always edit all posts in this thread after the game to correct my mistakes certain misunderstandings... :bounce:
Omanes Alexandrapolites
12-16-2007, 00:03
Night VI Conclusion
RoadKill was suffering from an awfully week heart. He'd endured its pains and problems for years and a heart attack had nearly prevented him from going on the crusade in the first place. He knew the risks of this excursion, but never expected to be killed in the way which he was.
It was at approximately midnight when a hashashin crept into his tent. Awaking suddenly resulted in his instant heart attack. The attacker, not knowing of RoadKill's problem, decided to stab him for good measure anyhow.
****
In other news, Beefy187 had left the camp for some unknown reason.
****
Day VII begins! With five alive, it takes three votes to be placed upon one player for a lynch to occur. Likewise it takes three votes upon the no lynch option for no lynch to occur. If no conclusion is met after aprox 72 hrs (17:00 GMT on the 18th of December), then no lynch will occur.
Alive (5)
Brave_Sir_Robin
Caius
Cheetah
Ichigo
kamikhaan
Replaced (2)
pevergreen (edyzmedieval - D3)
Warmaster Horus (Bijo - N4)
Lynched (2)
Andres (D1)
sapi (D4)
Killed (5)
shlin28 (N2)
edyzmedieval (N3)
FactionHeir (N4)
Craterus (N5)
Charge (N5)
RoadKill (N6)
WoGed (3)
Twilightblade (D3)
Sarathos (D5)
Killfr3nzy (D6)
Suicide (2)
Bijo (D4)
Dutch_guy (D5)
Beefy187 (N6)
Vote:kamikhaan because of before
At least we have a chance.
vote: kamikhaan
seireikhaan
12-16-2007, 02:51
Vote: Cheetah.
Tratorix
12-16-2007, 04:42
Vote: Cheetah
Same reason as last round.
Now, it is all up to Caius. Classic showdown. The good, the bad, and the ugly. :laugh4: *plays Morricone music*
BTW, you guys still gave no reason and no argument whatsoever why I would be the maffia. Also, you still have not explained why did you kill Craterus.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
12-16-2007, 08:11
Tally:
Cheetah - 2 (kamikhaan, Brave_Sir_Robin)
kamikhaan - 2 (Ichigo, Cheetah)
Just so you know, a vote on either kamikhaan or Cheetah will result in their lynch.
FactionHeir
12-16-2007, 11:39
I suppose it depends on whether Caius is a mole or not.
Tratorix
12-16-2007, 21:06
BTW, you guys still gave no reason and no argument whatsoever why I would be the maffia.
Yes, we have, but I guess i'll repeat them one last time.
You have been acting suspicious the whole game. You've been posting randomly, trying desperately to appear as neutral as possible. Whenever someone has placed a vote on you you've gotten extremely defensive and post long blocks about why you are innocent. No townie is that worried about being lynched, especially in the early game.
You are now trying to throw suspicion at me and kamikhaan using some of the weakest reasoning I have ever seen. Craterus voted for me, so I must be guilty. Kamikhaan has thought you were suspicious throughout the whole game, so he must be guilty. Absolutely brilliant, how did you ever put all of that together :inquisitive: .
Then, there is your misquoteing of the crusader pm last round. But, i'm sure you only got it wrong because you deleted it, and were reciting it from memory, right? It's not like you never recieved one.
There. That's the reasoning for voting for you. I'm done posting here now, as it's up to Caius. I'm not gonna bother trying to refute any more of Cheetahs random lies.
Craterus voted for me, so I must be guilty.
Craterus was a townie role, he suspected something. It is clear he had no hard proof otherwise he would have revealed it.
Kamikhaan has thought you were suspicious throughout the whole game,
Then why did not you guys kill me if you knew that I am a maffioso?
It is clear that you killed one night before.
Why did you kill Craterus and not me?
Then, there is your misquoteing of the crusader pm last round.
Quoting role PMs is not allowed. Anyone quoting role PMs should have been fired from the game. Also, I was quoting form the rules posted on the first page. At least you should have took the effort to read the rules. Oh wait you are a maffioso ...:laugh4:
There. That's the reasoning for voting for you. I'm done posting here now, as it's up to Caius. I'm not gonna bother trying to refute any more of Cheetahs random lies.
Cheap excuses. You and kamikhaan are still ducking the most important question: Why did you kill Craterus?
Tratorix
12-16-2007, 22:46
Cheap excuses. You and kamikhaan are still ducking the most important question: Why did you kill Craterus?
We didn't kill Craterus. We killed Charge after kamikhaan didn't put the last lynch vote on him in time. We would have killed you last night, but our group can only kill on odd numbered nights. The kill write-up shows Craterus being killed by an assasin, not a crusader group.
We didn't kill Craterus. We killed Charge after kamikhaan didn't put the last lynch vote on him in time. We would have killed you last night, but our group can only kill on odd numbered nights. The kill write-up shows Craterus being killed by an assasin, not a crusader group.
I'd like to know on what nights you attempted to kill a player.
I'm also interested in the kill choices and the reasons why.
Was FH in your group as well?
Vote:Cheetah
Its Cheetah.
FactionHeir
12-16-2007, 23:21
Caius is a mole then.
Caius is a mole then.
I'm the lone Crusader. I'm pro-crusader, but I think its Cheetah
FactionHeir
12-16-2007, 23:28
Wouldn't it be rather odd for Cheetah to help vote out sapi the mole and then help kill Charge the mole via vigilante action if he was a mole?
Its also obvious that neither myself nor Roadkill were mafia as both of us were killed by the mafia.
If you really are a crusader, then you'd be voting khaan.
Unvote:Cheetah
Vote:Kamikhaan
RoadKill
12-16-2007, 23:55
I still think it's cheetah.
I still think it's cheetah.
me too :)
seireikhaan
12-16-2007, 23:58
Tally:
Cheetah - 2 (kamikhaan, Brave_Sir_Robin)
kamikhaan - 2 (Ichigo, Cheetah)
Just so you know, a vote on either kamikhaan or Cheetah will result in their lynch.
Caius, your first vote already lynched Cheetah.
Nope, because the conclusion have to be reached till the deadline. So far everyone was allowed to change his vote, why would it be different?
If no conclusion is met after aprox 72 hrs (17:00 GMT on the 18th of December), then no lynch will occur.
seireikhaan
12-17-2007, 01:47
Because that was the rule for this situation as dictated by the host?
Well, let Omanes decide it. ~;)
It is sure that Caius changed his vote and the current tally is:
Tally:
Cheetah - 2 (kamikhaan, Brave_Sir_Robin)
kamikhaan - 3 (Ichigo, Cheetah, Caius)
I'm afraid kamikhaan is right.
A pity, I'd love to have had an answer from BSR on these questions:
I'd like to know on what nights you attempted to kill a player.
I'm also interested in the kill choices and the reasons why.
Was FH in your group as well?
Omanes Alexandrapolites
12-17-2007, 21:27
Day VII Conclusion
Sorry Caius - first vote counts in this sort of case.
Cheetah was chosen to be lynched through hanging by the remaining crusaders. As the rope was tied around his neck, and was hauled up to the top of the pole, he eternally howled in pain as his neck was gradually broken by the pressure of his own body.
After the process of Cheetah's death was complete, Ichigo and Caius began returning to their tents. Ichigo was fairly dissatisfied with the results, while Caius was beginning to suffer from some regrets at his choice.
As they thought about whether their decisions was accurate or not, both kamikhaan and Brave_Sir_Robin crept up behind the two survivors. Caius and Ichigo, both having their backs turned to the armed assailants, didn't stand a chance.
The following day their brutally mutilated bodies were taken back to the Hashashin stronghold at Alamut and placed on stakes in the ground. Hopefully a warning to any future crusaders about what happens when they meet the power of the hashashin.
Cheetah has been lynched, resulting in a half and half split between the Hashashin and the surviving crusaders. With non of the crusaders able to act on the following night phase, a Hashashin Victory has occurred :bow:
Alive (2)
Brave_Sir_Robin (Hashashin Assassin)
kamikhaan (Hashashin Assassin)
Replaced (2)
pevergreen (Crusader Scout) (edyzmedieval - D3)
Warmaster Horus (Crusader) (Bijo - N4)
Lynched (2)
Andres (Crusader) (D1)
sapi (Hashashin Spy) (D4)
Cheetah (Crusader Spy/Hashashin Spy) (D7)
Killed (5)
shlin28 (Crusader) (N2)
edyzmedieval (Crusader Scout) (N3)
FactionHeir (Crusader) (N4)
Craterus (Prostitute) (N5)
Charge (Hashashin Spy) (N5)
RoadKill (Crusader) (N6)
Caius (Lone Crusader) (D7)
Ichigo (Crusader) (D7)
WoGed (3)
Twilightblade (Crusader) (D3)
Sarathos (Crusader) (D5)
Killfr3nzy (Crusader) (D6)
Suicide (2)
Bijo (Crusader) (D4)
Dutch_guy (Crusader Spy/Hashashin Assassin) (D5)
Beefy187 (Crusader) (N6)
****
Detailed Role List:
Group A - The Brotherhood of St. Thomas:
Cheetah (Crusader (D1-D5) Crusader Spy/Hashashin Spy (semi-replaced Dutch_guy) (D5-D7))
Ichigo (Crusader)
sapi (Hashashin Spy)
They could kill/protect on all odd numbered nights (N1, N3, N5 e.c.t)
Group B - The Brotherhood of St. Matthew:
Sarathos (Crusader)
Warmaster Horus/Bijo (Crusader)
Killfr3nzy (Crusader)
They could kill/protect on all nights in the sequence: (N3, N6, N9 e.c.t)
Group C - The Knights of St. Peter:
RoadKill (Crusader)
FactionHeir (Crusader)
Charge (Hashashin Spy)
They could kill/protect on all nights in the sequence: (N1, N4, N7 e.c.t)
Group D - The Knights of St. John:
Andres (Crusader)
shlin28 (Crusader)
Twilightblade (Crusader)
Beefy187 (Crusader)
They could kill/protect on all nights in the sequence: (N2, N5, N8, N11 e.c.t)
Hashashin Assassins:
Dutch_guy (Crusader Spy/Hashashin Assassin) (Could kill N1, N3, N5 e.c.t)
kamikhaan (Hashashin Assassin) (Could kill N1, N3, N5 e.c.t)
Brave_Sir_Robin (Hashashin Assassin) (Could kill N2, N4, N6 e.c.t)
Other (Pro-crusader) Roles
Caius (Lone Crusader)
Craterus (Prostitute)
pevergreen/edyzmedieval (Crusader Scout)
Key:
Pro-Crusader
Pro-Hashashin
The Hashashin Spy/Assassin and Crusader roles have already undergone explanation.
The Crusader Spy/Hashashin Assassin role (Dutch_guy) was fairly complex. He was basically a crusader mole inside the hashashin who could kill on all odd numbered nights should he so wish. He couldn't kill any of the other hashashin though. He was also disallowed from informing other players of the other hashashin using any method beyond subtle hints. If he had gone beyond this, then the crusaders would have instantaneously lost.
The Crusader Spy/Hashashin Spy (Cheetah) role was similar to that of the Crusader Spy/Hashashin Assassin role. The only difference being that Cheetah had Hashashin Spy abilities rather than Hashashin Assassin abilities. Unlike Dutch_guy, Cheetah could kill on the nights stated in his role PM (N1, N3, N5 e.c.t). Also, since Ichigo had the power to stop him, he could also kill other Hashashin in his group.
The hashashin had no idea that they had a mole in their group.
The prostitute (Craterus) could sleep with one person every night. This target then wouldn't be able to perform his selected actions. If a group that was acting was targeted the entire group would be immobilised.
The lone crusader (Caius) couldn't do anything beyond vote. If any individual had attacked him though, they would have been killed. If a group had attacked him, one member of the group would have died.
The crusader scout (pevergreen/edyzmedieval) could investigate one person each night. The scout would gain either a "pro-crusader", "pro-hashashin" or an "unknown" result. The results weren't 100% accurate though.
Actions:
Night I:
pevergreen (Crusader Scout) investigated Ichigo (Crusader) and gained a "pro-crusader" result.
Craterus (Prostitute) slept with Brave_Sir_Robin (Hashashin Assassin)
FactionHeir (Crusader), Charge (Hashashin Spy) and RoadKill (Crusader) chose to kill sapi (Hashashin Spy), but Charge, although initially sending me a PM agreeing to the action, sent another PM taking his orders back.
kamikhaan (Hashashin Assassin) didn't act on this night phase.
Dutch_guy (Crusader Spy/Hashashin Assassin) chose not to act on this night phase.
Night II:
Craterus (Prostitute) slept with shlin28 (Crusader)
Brave_Sir_Robin (Hashashin Assassin) killed shlin28 (Crusader)
pevergreen (Crusader Scout) chose not to act
Night III:
kamikhaan (Hashashin Assassin) killed edyzmedieval (pevergreen's replacement - Crusader Scout)
Craterus (Prostitute) slept with Dutch_guy (Crusader Spy/Hashashin Assassin)
Dutch_guy (Crusader Spy/Hashashin Assassin) chose not to act on this night phase.
edyzmedieval (pevergreen's replacement - Crusader Scout) chose not to act this round.
Night IV
Brave_Sir_Robin (Hashashin Assassin) killed FactionHeir (Crusader)
Craterus (Prostitute) didn't act on this night phase.
Night V:
Cheetah (now a Crusader Spy/Hashashin Spy) and Ichigo (Crusader) chose to kill Charge (Hashashin Spy)
Craterus (Prostitute) slept with Killfr3nzy (Crusader)
kamikhaan (Hashashin Assassin) chose to kill Craterus (Prostitute)
Night VI:
Brave_Sir_Robin (Hashashin Assassin) killed RoadKill (Crusader)
Thanks for playing guys, and a special congratulations to the hashashin. From what I can gather, it seems you saw past me deliberatly "forgetting" that you had a spy amongst you :bow:
FactionHeir
12-17-2007, 21:46
Good game, although very long winded.
Seems Charge blew it on N1 by pulling back and exposing both himself and sapi as mafia. Still, I was surprised most people refused to act on this as if they thought the game would be over too quickly.
I had thought that Andres was a mole all along too, although he was lynched D1 btw.
Craterus
12-17-2007, 21:50
Ugh. Wish I had a slightly better pro-crusader role, I coulda told you it right from the start.
First game ... :shrug:
Anyway, mafioso isn't a role which I wish to get..
Meh, it is not fair. So far everyone was allowed to change votes.
GG for the assasins. BSR played the first half brilliantly. Kamikhaan was a bit too eager to lynch me.
What I did not know whether Andres is indeed that ..., or just a mole (would have been my preference), or just enjoys messing up the game and fooling with the townies.
The town played it abysmal with a few exception (FH and Ichigo).
Posted this two days ago:
The most reasonable interpretation is that one of the assasins can kill on: N1, N3, N5, etc; the other can kill on: N2, N4, N6, etc.
The only logical explanation for the lack of kill on the first night is that the assasin who could have killed was inactive. And guess who was inactive till N2? kamikhaan. He was even threatened to be WOGed.
So:
N1 kamikhaan inactive
N2 BSR kills shlin
N3 kamikhaan kills edyzmedieval
N4 BSR kills FH
N5 kamikhaan kills Craterus
N6 BSR kills ... ???
Have fun!!!! :laugh4:
seireikhaan
12-17-2007, 22:14
:laugh4:
Sorry, but I still can't believe I didn't get lynched. Cheetah, you would be wise to learn this lesson: "The nail which sticks out farthest gets hammered down the hardest." Dunno who came up with that saying, but it applies to mafia pretty well. Cheetah, you looked suspicious because you kept posting over and over and over again in extremely aggressive/defensive behavior. It was just enough to get you lynched. Btw, I was laughing my arse off at the ever more grandiose(and rather implausible) lies that I had to keep spewing. Anyways, the game was getting a bit boring after a few rounds, and was rather inactive, so I intentionally stuck my head out a bit to at least generate some entertainment.
:embarassed: I'm once again sorry for lyching Andres, but you people needs to learn to be less anti-mod-ists :furious3:, mods arent neccessarily evil... anyhoo, our group can't do anything anyway, cos Twilightblade was inactive.
GG mafia.
Yeah, I was sure you and BSR were having fun laughing your arse off ... meh, I got the frustration part ~;)
and indeed I have learnt a lesson ... I am not playing more maffia games :laugh4:
seireikhaan
12-17-2007, 22:39
I'm once again sorry for lyching Andres, but you people needs to learn to be less anti-mod-ists :furious3:, mods arent neccessarily evil...
Bah, I wasn't being an anti-mod-ist, I just didn't mind so much Andres being lynched in round one.:beam: :evil:
seireikhaan
12-17-2007, 22:41
Yeah, I was sure you and BSR were having fun laughing your arse off ... meh, I got the frustration part ~;)
and indeed I have learnt a lesson ... I am not playing more maffia games :laugh4:
Aww, come on. Mafia's fun. You just need to play a few more games. And be mafia once or twice.~;)
FactionHeir
12-17-2007, 23:48
Well, I guess Andres was lynched round 1 because I said he was green or somesuch and everyone jumped on that bandwagon.
sapi really was mafia though.
Tratorix
12-18-2007, 00:00
Well, it's kind of a victory by technicality, but i'll take it. Got very close at the end there.
and indeed I have learnt a lesson ... I am not playing more maffia games
The way I look at it, you did pretty well. You survived through the game despite being a prime suspect and you nearly got kamikhaan lynched at the end. Now that I think back on it, I really should have suspected that Dutch_Guy was a spy, since he never killed anyone... :oops:
RoadKill
12-18-2007, 00:03
Ah Hah! So I was right about the Charge and Sapi relationships.
What I did not know whether Andres is indeed that ..., or just a mole (would have been my preference), or just enjoys messing up the game and fooling with the townies.
I don't enjoy messing up the game. I was truly convinced that you were guilty. I was wrong. My bad. :embarassed: I owe you an apology :bow:
I am not playing more maffia games.
The amount of posts you made and how you got truly immersed in this game, suggests otherwise ~;) Your participation certainly spiced the game up. Hope to see you back in the next large game :bow:
Congrats mafia. I had my doubts about BSR but once again, kamikhaan fooled me all the way :bow:
Thnx for hosting this one Omanes. It was a fun game :bow:
seireikhaan
12-18-2007, 00:56
:coffeenews: Oh, and this runs my mafia record to 4 wins, one loss.
Tratorix
12-18-2007, 01:25
Just remembered I forgot to thank Omanes for hosting. Downright rude of me.
So, thank you. :bow:
This brings my record to 2 wins, 1 loss. My first time winning a large game as mafia though.
seireikhaan
12-18-2007, 01:31
Ah, how remiss of me, my apologies. Thank you, Omanes, for hosting.
I don't understand why khaan wasn't lynched. Kinda strange on Omanes part.
Dang!
WEll hosted Omanes, you put me in serious problem, no one would believe me i was a Lone Crusader.
Well done mafia.
Beefy187
12-18-2007, 15:34
Game wouldve been better for me if our group werent crippled from the start. :laugh4:
Thanks for hosting Omanes. Mole idea was fantastic
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