Problem with eb1.0

[Stone and Blood]

Hello, i installed Rome total war 1.5, followed all the instrutions of instalation, no error ocurred through the instalation but when i start the game part of the menu gets purple and i can't start any campaing or custom battle. For now i'm playing 0.81. I tryied to find information in this forum but i haven't found nothing that could help. Any suggestions please? Thank you for your atention.

[Foot]

moved to correct forum.

Foot

[bovi]

This sounds like a unique problem, but you should nevertheless try the solutions that have helped others. See the EB installation validation thread for a checklist, and say what you've done of them. As you can play 0.81, I doubt there is any hardware problem.

[Stone and Blood]

It's realy weird, no error or message ocurred through all instalation, but when I start the game it takes a lot of time to load and get to menu screen, and it starts winkling, and part of it gets purple. All advices that found in this forum are about errors of instalation, validation, but no error ocurred in my instalation, and I got the original CD of the game. I followed correctly all the guides and advices of instalation

Ill download the game again and hope that will make any diference, till there could anyone give me a new advice

[bovi]

Sorry, but when others have said they did "all" of the things in the validation thread they invariably have not. Please post the checklist and what you've done of them.

[Stone and Blood]

Sorry Bovi for not posting results :S, but here they are:
I reinstalled Rome, 1.3, 1.5, then unpacked the EB things using 7-zip, and installed.
I Ran the validation, and apeared this message:
You seem to have a functioning install.
No changes to the original files seem to have been made, however some are added.
==========
Added file: .\persistent_logs\ai_subterfuge.txt
Added file: .\persistent_logs\issued_advice.txt
Added file: .\persistent_logs\issued_ancillaries.txt
Added file: .\persistent_logs\issued_traits.txt

I donwloaded the map.rwm file and placed it in eb/data/world/maps/base.

But my menu screen keeps crazy and I still cant start camaping or custom, CTD.
What you meant with add -nm to shortcut? Will be like EB10-nm?
I'll try the another fixes...

[bovi]

I actually meant the checklist, not the validation results, but thanks for those all the same (they check out :2thumbsup:).

Your current shortcut probably has in the target field (right-click and choose properties):
c:\your\rtw\folder\RomeTW.exe -mod:eb

Change this to
c:\your\rtw\folder\RomeTW.exe -mod:eb -nm

While you're at it, you can add -ne as well if you want to run it windowed:
c:\your\rtw\folder\RomeTW.exe -mod:eb -nm -ne

X Using a nocd crack? Your game won't work, use the original executable instead. There is no point in trying the rest of the list until you install a fresh, clean 1.5 RTW.
X Install RTW and EB once again, from scratch
X Install using 7-zip rather than installer
X Download a map.rwm file and place it in eb/data/world/maps/base (requires both the disaster and Oppida permanent fixes)
_ Add -nm to the shortcut
_ Delete some interfering files that Vista hides in its bowels
X Run the validation tool to diagnose the problem
_ Install the fixes linked in my sig
_ Add more swap space in Windows, and other technical measures you can take
X Using RTW Gold? Try to uninstall everything and do not install BI
_ Got an ATI Radeon X700 graphics card? Apparently some setting called "Support DXT textures format" is creating problems. Try to change this setting for the driver called "Support DXT textures format".

[Stone and Blood]

I installed all the fixes but nothing changes.

I dont use vista or ATI Radeon X700 graphics card.

I don't have any RomeTW.exe -mod:eb
When i add nm to mu RomeTW.exe its format changes and i can't run the game.

Ill try the technical measures and see what hapens = o

[bovi]

It's format... changes? You do know that EB 0.8x has this switch by default, and works by your own words? Please check that you've got it correctly.

[Stone and Blood]

C:\Arquivos de programas\Jogos!\Europa Barbarorum 1.0

Thats the folder i installed EB1.0, and there is no RomeTW.exe -mod:eb
All i got there is a RomeTW.exe
Yes, i can play EB0.81
I use "search" in my computer and it did not find any RomeTW.exe -mod:eb
O.o
Tell me if this what you meant our im being a Computer noob as always xD

[Stone and Blood]

All that is left me to try is to add the -nm, but i still don't understand how to, i can't finde the RomeTW.exe -mod:eb archive.

What drives me crazy is the crazy menu screen. does anyone had it before? Still CTD when starting campaing or custom battle... :S

[Stone and Blood]

oh! i added the -nm thing, my crazy menu screen has been fixeD, but i still have CTD >.<

[bovi]

Seems you understood that I was talking about the shortcut in the end :beam:. Your folder structure doesn't seem to be an RTW installation, but it should be alright as the validation was successful.

* Please try to delete all map.rwm files, including the ones in the vanilla structure. There are likely three of them.

* Please try to move your RTW with EB into a structure without any spaces, such as C:\EB10 (so that you have C:\EB10\RomeTW.exe and C:\EB10\EB etc). You will have to change your shortcut to run from this location.


If nothing else works, the only thing left I can think if is pretty technical... Let me know which parts of this that are incomprehensible, as I'm sure it's not easy to understand for a computer illiterate.

Try to have FileMon monitor your RTW directory as you run the game. You can download FileMon here (ftp://ftp.europabarbarorum.org/Filemon.zip) (it's safe, I promise). Remember to limit its scope to only the RTW directory and its subfolders with Options=>Filter/Highlight. Save the log, zip it and upload to a file hosting service like rapidshare.com, then post the link here so I can see what is happening at the point where it stops.

[Stone and Blood]

I changed the location of the folder as you asked, and i deleted all map.rwm files that existed in my computer. CTD are still with fullpower >.<
I'll send you the link of the log thing.
Bovi, Many thanks for you patience xD

[Stone and Blood]

http://rapidshare.com/files/71151646/Europa_barbarorum.LOG.html here it is, I hope that it is what you meant =O

[bovi]

It complains about a lot of gloss maps right before quitting. Perhaps you could disable those somehow, in preferences.txt or the ingame options? I don't have time to check right now, but that could help.

[Stone and Blood]

Maping Gloss disabled at preferences, but nothing changed :S.
I see a lot of "PATH NOT FOUND" at the log text, very strange O.o

Waiting for orders, Bovi.

[bovi]

Could you run again and make a new Filemon log (please zip it this time, not essential but saves download time)? Possibly you've bypassed a gloss map problem but ran smack into another one, so I'd like to compare them. If it's the same now, I'll have to dig deeper in the log I think.

Also, could you post your system specs (CPU, RAM, graphics card etc)?

[Stone and Blood]

Right a way sir.
http://rapidshare.com/files/71279569/Europa_barbarorum1.0_second.7z.html
here is the second filemon log, now zipped.

processor:GeForce FX 5200 1.20GHz, My Ram is 512MB, Memory size 256MB
Video adaptator:NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200

[bovi]

Not the best rig around... EB1.0 is quite a bit bigger than 0.81aV2, RAM could be relevant but I don't really think so. Your graphics card is really low-level and might not support everything that RTW throws in its direction with the current preferences, so I think I'd like to keep attacking that.

I see it still reads the gloss map files, and I'm fairly sure it's not supposed to when you disable them. Are you sure you changed the right preferences file? There are at least three of them I think, try to change it in all of them. You should also check your 0.81aV2 installation and see if there are any differences between the preferences there and the ones in 1.0.

[Stone and Blood]

http://rapidshare.com/files/71364554/Europa_barbaroum_third.7z.html
Here is the link of the third time i use filemon O.o

And you're right, there were three "preferences" files, i changed them all.
Here are the preferences:
SAFE_REFRESH:TRUE
USE_TRIPLE_BUFFER:TRUE
USE_WIDESCREEN:FALSE
SUBTITLES:FALSE
MORALE:TRUE
FATIGUE:TRUE
LIMITED_AMMO:TRUE
SUPPLY:TRUE
FOG_OF_WAR:TRUE
RESTRICT_CAMERA:TRUE
DEFAULT_BATTLE_CAMERA:RTS
SMOKE:TRUE
DESYNC:TRUE
SPLASHES:TRUE
GLINTS:FALSE
REFLECTIONS:FALSE
SHADOWS:TRUE
VEGETATION:FALSE
DETAILED_UNIT_SHADOWS:TRUE
GLOSS_MAPPING:FALSE
STENCIL_SHADOWS:TRUE
MULTI_TEXTURE:TRUE
AUTO_SAVE:TRUE
SHOW_BANNERS:TRUE
UNIT_SIZE:40
MASTER_VOL:100
SPEECH_VOL:100
SFX_VOL:100
MUSIC_VOL:70
CAMERA_ROTATE:50
CAMERA_MOVE:50
CAMERA_FOV:75.000000
ENABLE_AUDIO:TRUE
ENABLE_MUSIC:TRUE
DISABLE_BACKGROUND_FMV:FALSE
DISABLE_ARROW_MARKERS:FALSE
AUDIO_3D_PROVIDER:Miles Fast 2D Positional Audio
CLOUD_TRANSITIONS:TRUE
GRASS_DISTANCE:20
AA_QUALITY:AA_LOW
STRATEGY_RESOLUTION:1024x768
STRATEGY_32_BIT:TRUE
BATTLE_RESOLUTION:1024x768
BATTLE_32_BIT:TRUE
UNIT_DETAIL:NORMAL
BUILDING_DETAIL:NORMAL
TGA_CAPTURE_WIDTH:1024
TGA_CAPTURE_ASPECT:1.333333
TGA_CAPTURE_INPUT_SCALE:1
TGA_CAPTURE_RESERVE_SPACE:FALSE
LABEL_CHARACTERS:FALSE
LABEL_SETTLEMENTS:TRUE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_MAX_SCROLL_SPEED_MIN_ZOOM:30
CAMPAIGN_MAP_MAX_SCROLL_SPEED_MAX_ZOOM:30
FIRST_TIME_PLAY:TRUE
ADVISOR_VERBOSITY:3
MUTE_ADVISOR:FALSE
BLIND_ADVISOR:FALSE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_CAMERA:FOLLOW_AI_FACTIONS
CAMPAIGN_MAP_SPEED_UP:FALSE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_GAME_SPEED:15
DISABLE_EVENTS:0
MICROMANAGE_ALL_SETTLEMENTS:FALSE
ADVANCED_STATS_ALWAYS:FALSE
UNIT_USE_SHADERS:FALSE
TERRAIN_QUALITY:HIGH
EFFECT_QUALITY:HIGH
VEGETATION_QUALITY:HIGH
KEYSET:0
UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD:FALSE

I went to options at the game's menu and decreased all the graphics to the minimal.

I changed the graphic of the units and buldings to low at preferences. But i still have CTD when i start campaing or custom.

I uninstalled the EB0.81aV2, are you sure i can install it again in another folder and it wont influence the 1.0?

[bovi]

Installing 0.81aV2 could affect the 1.0 installation, I'm not sure how that installer works. Better make a backup copy of the whole RTW folder before you do so. But before that, make a backup copy of all preferences.txt files and try these settings (paste it into all of them). It's got lower settings than what you posted, I think I've cut it down to the lowest possible settings at all.


SAFE_REFRESH:FALSE
USE_TRIPLE_BUFFER:FALSE
USE_WIDESCREEN:FALSE
SUBTITLES:FALSE
MORALE:TRUE
FATIGUE:TRUE
LIMITED_AMMO:TRUE
SUPPLY:TRUE
FOG_OF_WAR:TRUE
RESTRICT_CAMERA:TRUE
DEFAULT_BATTLE_CAMERA:DEFAULT
EVENT_CUTSCENES:TRUE
SMOKE:FALSE
DESYNC:FALSE
SPLASHES:FALSE
GLINTS:FALSE
REFLECTIONS:FALSE
SHADOWS:FALSE
VEGETATION:FALSE
DETAILED_UNIT_SHADOWS:FALSE
GLOSS_MAPPING:FALSE
STENCIL_SHADOWS:FALSE
MULTI_TEXTURE:FALSE
AUTO_SAVE:FALSE
SHOW_BANNERS:TRUE
UNIT_EXPERIENCE_UPGRADE_EFFECT:TRUE
UNIT_SIZE:20
MASTER_VOL:100
SPEECH_VOL:100
SFX_VOL:100
MUSIC_VOL:70
CAMERA_ROTATE:50
CAMERA_MOVE:50
CAMERA_FOV:75.000000
ENABLE_AUDIO:FALSE
ENABLE_MUSIC:FALSE
ENABLE_UNIT_SPEECH:TRUE
DISABLE_BACKGROUND_FMV:FALSE
DISABLE_ARROW_MARKERS:FALSE
AUDIO_3D_PROVIDER:DirectSound3D Software Emulation
CLOUD_TRANSITIONS:FALSE
GRASS_DISTANCE:0
AA_QUALITY:AA_OFF
STRATEGY_RESOLUTION:1024x768
STRATEGY_MAX_RESOLUTION:2048x1536
STRATEGY_32_BIT:FALSE
BATTLE_RESOLUTION:800x600
BATTLE_MAX_RESOLUTION:2048x1536
BATTLE_32_BIT:FALSE
UNIT_DETAIL:LOW
BUILDING_DETAIL:LOW
TGA_CAPTURE_WIDTH:1024
TGA_CAPTURE_ASPECT:1.333333
TGA_CAPTURE_INPUT_SCALE:1
TGA_CAPTURE_RESERVE_SPACE:FALSE
LABEL_CHARACTERS:FALSE
LABEL_SETTLEMENTS:FALSE
MINIMAL_UI:FALSE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_MAX_SCROLL_SPEED_MIN_ZOOM:30
CAMPAIGN_MAP_MAX_SCROLL_SPEED_MAX_ZOOM:30
FIRST_TIME_PLAY:FALSE
ADVISOR_VERBOSITY:3
MUTE_ADVISOR:FALSE
BLIND_ADVISOR:FALSE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_CAMERA:FOLLOW_AI_FACTIONS
CAMPAIGN_MAP_SPEED_UP:FALSE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_GAME_SPEED:99
DISABLE_EVENTS:0
MICROMANAGE_ALL_SETTLEMENTS:FALSE
ADVANCED_STATS_ALWAYS:FALSE
UNIT_USE_SHADERS:FALSE
TERRAIN_QUALITY:MEDIUM
EFFECT_QUALITY:LOWEST
VEGETATION_QUALITY:LOW
KEYSET:0
UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD:FALSE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_CAMERA_SMOOTHING:TRUE
CHAT_MSG_DURATION:10
USE_QUICKCHAT:FALSE
GS_PIDS:FALSE
GS_PIDS_FULL:FALSE
GS_PIDS_CUR:FALSE
ALWAYS_LOGFILE:FALSE
TIMESTAMP_LOGFILE:TRUE
32BIT_UI:FALSE
GS_LOG_RESULTS:FALSE
CHAT_COLOURS:name=ffffa0,private=ff7707,game=94aadc,public=fff777,system=ffffff,lobby=fff777,setup=9 4aadc,playing=ff0707
EDIT_SETTLEMENT_NAMES:FALSE

[Stone and Blood]

I changed all the three preference files that exists in my computer as you asked, but i still have the CTD when start campaing or custom battle.
Here is another log. Not so heavy as the others, so we should have canceled some errors, i hope.
http://rapidshare.com/files/71567783/Europa_barbarorum1.0FourthLog.7z.html
And could you recomend me a good graphic card, if mine is not?

Thanks for your patience... We can do it >.<

[bovi]

I prefer ATI myself, as NVidias drivers have been unstable for me at many times. Upgrading your graphics card alone probably won't make much of a difference with performance, as your CPU and RAM is also lacking. As we've turned off all the bells and whistles, I don't think upgrading it will make EB work either.

Comparing against my own starting a campaign, your game quits after reading everything to do with diplomats and before reading anything concerning spies. I notice you still have spaces in your folder structure. Please try to rename the C:\Europa Barbarorum 1.0 folder to C:\EB10, if you didn't before. I don't expect it to work, but it can't harm to try.

Also, you should probably install 0.81aV2 again, and compare the preferences there (if it works, of course!) with what you have now. Try to copy the preferences from there too. At the very least we can eliminate that from the list of suspects.

[Stone and Blood]

I renamed it, now is C:\EB10

Another strange thing that hapens. I start the game and apears the screen with europa barbarorum, Total War, Creative Assembly, etc... But when the game starts loading, all the screen become Black and all i can see is the green bar growing at the lower part of the screen, loading. Then apears the menu screen. Then i start the campaing and all turns black again, and all i can see is the green bar. When the loading finishes, all turns back and the lovely CTD shows himself.

I can't install the 0.81aV2 again. When i open the instaler, it says that an error ocurred because a superios version of Europa Barbarorum is installed. But anyway, as you changed the preferences to the lowest possible, how could the 0.81aV2 preference make something?

[bovi]

You can use 7-zip to install it. You did similarly already with 1.0. I don't think the preferences file will help, but then we at least can eliminate that as a possible reason for the problems. And I want to know that 0.81aV2 works.

[bovi]

By the way, I see "Malik of Sindh" has got a graphics card in the same series as you (Geforce 5200), so that shouldn't be the issue.

[Stone and Blood]

I can't install 0.81aV2 even using 7-zip.

Right click on EB081aFinal.exe, 7-zip, open file, double click on EB081av2.msi

Is this the right way to install through 7-zip?

[bovi]

Simply extract all the files using 7-zip into a clean 1.5 RTW directory. You can delete the msi file afterwards or leave it be.

[Stone and Blood]

Oh God... i didn't install 1.0 this way O.o ,
this is how i installed 1.0:Right click on EB10.exe, 7-zip, open file, double click on EB10.msi
Could this different installation cause the CTD that i'm experiencing?
I extracted all the 0.81aV2 files in a clean version of rome total war 1.5, but no icon appeared, and when i click Rome.exe starts the rome total war vanilla...

[bovi]

It could possibly do that, but as the validation says there are no changes to any files I think not.

[Stone and Blood]

I extracted all the 0.81aV2 files in a clean version of rome total war 1.5, but no icon appeared at desktop, and when i click Rome.exe starts the rome total war vanilla... What i did wrong?
And about 1.0, what should i do now?

[bovi]

You need to create the shortcut manually when installing with 7-zip. Copy your shortcut that points to 1.0, and modify it to point to your new 0.8x installation. My thought is to get that version running again, then to copy the preferences file into 1.0 so that we know there's nothing in it causing problems.

[Stone and Blood]

Bovi, 0.81aV2 version is working without problem, these are the preferences:
SAFE_REFRESH:TRUE
USE_TRIPLE_BUFFER:TRUE
USE_WIDESCREEN:FALSE
SUBTITLES:FALSE
MORALE:TRUE
FATIGUE:TRUE
LIMITED_AMMO:TRUE
SUPPLY:TRUE
FOG_OF_WAR:TRUE
RESTRICT_CAMERA:TRUE
DEFAULT_BATTLE_CAMERA:RTS
SMOKE:TRUE
DESYNC:TRUE
SPLASHES:TRUE
GLINTS:FALSE
REFLECTIONS:FALSE
SHADOWS:TRUE
VEGETATION:FALSE
DETAILED_UNIT_SHADOWS:TRUE
GLOSS_MAPPING:TRUE
STENCIL_SHADOWS:TRUE
MULTI_TEXTURE:TRUE
AUTO_SAVE:TRUE
SHOW_BANNERS:TRUE
UNIT_SIZE:40
MASTER_VOL:100
SPEECH_VOL:100
SFX_VOL:100
MUSIC_VOL:70
CAMERA_ROTATE:50
CAMERA_MOVE:50
CAMERA_FOV:75.000000
ENABLE_AUDIO:TRUE
ENABLE_MUSIC:TRUE
DISABLE_BACKGROUND_FMV:FALSE
DISABLE_ARROW_MARKERS:FALSE
AUDIO_3D_PROVIDER:Miles Fast 2D Positional Audio
CLOUD_TRANSITIONS:TRUE
GRASS_DISTANCE:20
AA_QUALITY:AA_LOW
STRATEGY_RESOLUTION:1024x768
STRATEGY_32_BIT:TRUE
BATTLE_RESOLUTION:1024x768
BATTLE_32_BIT:TRUE
UNIT_DETAIL:NORMAL
BUILDING_DETAIL:NORMAL
TGA_CAPTURE_WIDTH:1024
TGA_CAPTURE_ASPECT:1.333333
TGA_CAPTURE_INPUT_SCALE:1
TGA_CAPTURE_RESERVE_SPACE:FALSE
LABEL_CHARACTERS:FALSE
LABEL_SETTLEMENTS:TRUE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_MAX_SCROLL_SPEED_MIN_ZOOM:30
CAMPAIGN_MAP_MAX_SCROLL_SPEED_MAX_ZOOM:30
FIRST_TIME_PLAY:TRUE
ADVISOR_VERBOSITY:3
MUTE_ADVISOR:FALSE
BLIND_ADVISOR:FALSE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_CAMERA:FOLLOW_AI_FACTIONS
CAMPAIGN_MAP_SPEED_UP:FALSE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_GAME_SPEED:15
DISABLE_EVENTS:0
MICROMANAGE_ALL_SETTLEMENTS:FALSE
ADVANCED_STATS_ALWAYS:FALSE
UNIT_USE_SHADERS:TRUE
TERRAIN_QUALITY:HIGH
EFFECT_QUALITY:HIGH
VEGETATION_QUALITY:HIGH
KEYSET:0
UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD:FALSE
I deleted my preference files from my EB10, overwiriting them with these preferences, but still CTD when i start custom battle or campaing.

[bovi]

Okay, thanks! Now, to see if we can find what files make the problem in your case. This can be quite a tedious experience (more than already!), just so you're warned.

For the rest of this thread, 0.81aV2 = 0.8, okay? I don't want to have to type it out all the time.

I want you to make a complete copy of your 0.8 installation so you can revert to it at any time. Then to copy sets of files over from 1.0 to 0.8 until it crashes, at which point we may have found the problem.

The first I want to try is the diplomat and spy files, as these are in the vicinity of the crash in the Filemon log. These are any files matching the patterns diplomat* and spy* in windows explorer file search. Or copy the whole UI and models_strat folders for good measure. If it still works, we'll try some more.

[Stone and Blood]

Good idea, this "0.81aV2" thing was tiring me too ;P

Done, the game still works, i started a hayasdan camaping without problems.

[bovi]

I'm a bit shaky on what files correspond to which. Try this set. If it fails, it could be the problem but could also be a file that is needed when you copy something that references something else. Remember to delete map.rwm.


Walls and vegetation

descr_walls.txt
models_walls folder
descr_building_battle folder
descr_vegetation*
descr_geography.txt
vegetation folder

[Stone and Blood]

I never tought i would say this someday in my life, but, Yeah!! i Had a CTD!!!!!

Well, i took these files from my 1.0 installation an i've put them in the respective folders of my 0.8 installation.

I started the game, but before appears the menu screen, i had a CTD, what should we do now?

http://rapidshare.com/files/72649009/AnotherLog.7z.html

Here is the log if you want to see it.

[bovi]

Sorry, but I see from the logs that I forgot the packs folder, it contains important things for the oppida wall. Perhaps more, keep pushing these Filemon logs at me :beam:.

[Stone and Blood]

http://rapidshare.com/files/72716422/6log.7z.html

With the pack's files changed

[bovi]

Somewhat surprisingly to me, it complains about a number of files under UI. Please try to copy that folder over.

Edit: Alternatively, we can go with the hypothesis that we've found the bugger, but I don't think so as it doesn't crash at the same point. You could try to restore the 0.8 and copy everything except these files instead.

[Stone and Blood]

http://rapidshare.com/files/72726060/8filemonlog.7z.html

I've copied the UI folder over.

[bovi]

So sorry, I've become very busy with work. I'll get back to you in about a week.

[Mouzafphaerre]

.
Just to narrow down your culprits, it can't be hardware related unless bad drivers are involved. I have P4HT3, 512M RAM and FX5500. EB loads in 6 minutes or so and the script activation advisor takes another 2 minutes or so to appear but I play OK until RTW's memory leak strikes (takes about two hours to become a real nuisance) with most settings on medium and a few on high.
.

[bovi]

Seems I lied, I got a few hours today. Mouz, I know it's unlikely to be a hardware thing as 0.8 works fine. It's got to be something in our 1.0 update that screws it up for him and noone else :dizzy2:.

The UI files don't seem to make any difference. export_descr_advice is among the files latest accessed before the crash. You could try to copy that one over.

Also, you should try to do the reverse. Restore your clean 0.8, and copy everything except the set that we tried that made it crash.

[bovi]

I think perhaps it's easier to try the intermediate versions on the way to 1.0 and see when it breaks, I'm obviously not able to isolate the problem this way. I'll have to make these available on my own computer, so I can't do it until thursday at the earliest.

[bovi]

I've sent you a PM saying how you can get them, but haven't heard from you after. I expect you've given up, so I'll be removing them again tomorrow. Let me know if you return and need them once more.

[halo13]

hi guys !
I'm new here but I have a problem.
I Start EB everything seems to be allright.
Then in the main menu i click on "EB-Campaign" an then this: "Select item from the list". But there's no list nothing i tried to reinstall Rome-Goldpack an Eb and so on and so an but all the times when i wanna just start the campaign this message comes.
Can anybody help me ? I'm a little be frustrated^^

Szymon

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

You may have the wrong version of RTW. Make sure you are patched to v1.5 or v1.6.

Or, do you have some other RTW mod installed on your system?

You may also want to check this thread and see if any of the suggestions help: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=93236

[Stone and Blood]

Hello again Bovi, i've been away from computer for a while, i was studying and you said that would be busy for a week, im back, sorry for any trouble... ill try the guide that you sent to me ; ) , dont delete.

[Stone and Blood]

I've downloaded helix 4 trough orbit, and seems like the archive is damaged, in a strange format, so i can't extract. Ill download it again without orbit.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Helix4? That's a pre1.0 interal version of EB.

[Stone and Blood]

I downloaded helix4 without problems, i extracted the files to the folder of my clean version of Rome Total War 1.5 . i started the game, but, before the appearing of the menu screen, the game is closed. here is the log :
http://rapidshare.com/files/77640893/LogEBHelix4.7z.html
I opened it trough EB0.81aV2 icon, perhaps this is the problem.
Then i oppened the game using the EB10 Icon, the game exited again, before the menu screen. here is the log:
http://rapidshare.com/files/77642602/LogEBhelix4_2_.7z.html

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Did you install on top of a v0.8x? Because you have to uninstall EB08x before you can install EB10...

[Bonny]

I've downloaded helix 4 trough orbit, and seems like the archive is damaged, in a strange format, so i can't extract. Ill download it again without orbit.

hä?
where did you found the Helix 4 version?

[Admetos]

Originally Posted by bovi
I think perhaps it's easier to try the intermediate versions on the way to 1.0 and see when it breaks, I'm obviously not able to isolate the problem this way. I'll have to make these available on my own computer, so I can't do it until thursday at the earliest.


Originally Posted by bovi
I've sent you a PM saying how you can get them, but haven't heard from you after. I expect you've given up, so I'll be removing them again tomorrow. Let me know if you return and need them once more.
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[bovi]

Hmm, possibly there's a hotfix you'd need for it to run, I can't remember. I'll have to check how it works on my own computer first. At least the log is different from the 1.0 one, but I don't know if that's a good sign or bad :beam:.

[halo13]

@MarcusAurelisusAntonius :
My RTW version is 1.6 i've got the Rome-Godpack so you W#ll install vers 1.6

[Bonny]

@MarcusAurelisusAntonius :
My RTW version is 1.6 i've got the Rome-Godpack so you W#ll install vers 1.6


Your RTW version is 1.5. Since you have the Gold version you autmatically have Barbarian Invasion which is 1.6 (If you take look at the options menu of both games you will notice that RTW is signed as 1.5 and BI as 1.6). So everything allright here.



Then in the main menu i click on "EB-Campaign" an then this: "Select item from the list". But there's no list nothing i tried to reinstall Rome-Goldpack an Eb and so on and so an but all the times when i wanna just start the campaign this message comes.
Can anybody help me ? I'm a little be frustrated^^


can you make a screenshot of the "Select item from the list" screen ("print" button and then "paste" it in a graphic program like ms paint)? This might help us find out your problem.

[bovi]

If you want, you can try out the other helixes and see if any work.

Edit: Sent you a PM with link to the hotfix for Helix4.

[Stone and Blood]

i Clicked the link that you sent me but nothing happens, the download does not start =/

[bovi]

That's odd. It's the same as the other ones, and "works on my computer" :clown:. Please try again.

[Tellos Athenaios]

You may want to try Save-Target-As, in case you tried to download from the EB FTP server.

(Is that in fact, possible? :inquisitive:)

[bovi]

I've got it on a private server, it's not on the EB FTP. Although I'll put it there if he still has problems.

[Stone and Blood]

i tried Save-Target-As, and i donwloaded a html document, with a lot of strange characters, letters and numbers writen on it O.o

[bovi]

It's an archive. By letting the browser interpret it, it will become corrupted, with "line breaks" of value 10 becoming 1310. I'll put it on the EB FTP.

[Stone and Blood]

It's working, i tryied some custom battles and started a getai's campaing
i'll download the other helixes and see if they work too.
Do they need the hotfix?
Edit: I can't download the other helixes, very strange, hapens the same thing
that ocurred when i was trying to download the hotfix.

[bovi]

I thought you said you had downloaded them already. Please stop using Internet Exploder and start using Mozilla Firefox instead. That hotfix is only for Helix4.

[Stone and Blood]

I can't download them, even with mozilla firefox =/, very sttrange...

[bovi]

Sorry. I had stopped the server due to a harddisk crash. Try again now.

Firefox should ask you what you want to do with the file, since it's not a text file for browser interpretation. Mine does, at least.

[Stone and Blood]

Bovi, last night i started the download, but it stopped sudenly, don't know why, and after this i could not sart the download again...
I wont use my computer till saturday or sunday, i'll try to donwload again when i be back, i see you later my friend ;)

[bovi]

Yeah, my connection died inexplicably and stayed dead until this afternoon, when it inexplicably fixed itself. No idea why, maybe my ISP did some upgrade or screwed up. Sorry for the instability.

[Stone and Blood]

I downloaded the relix6, extracted the files in my Rome total war 1.5 folder. I started the game but the following error message apeared:
Script Error in eb/data/settlement/oasis.txt , at line 11, colmun1
Name not recognised:'oasis_lake' - make sure you defined it in descr_bulding_battle.txt or as a slot or group in descr_settlement_plan.txt

[bovi]

That's weird, that that one should pop up now and not for the other installations. Anyway, get the oasis temp fix and install that, it should bypass the problem (thankfully a known error!).

Also, please download the rest of them as soon as possible.

[Stone and Blood]

Campaing and custom battle are working. But, there are some strange things:
1)at custom battle, choosing the roman faction, all the units available are mercenaries, there is no principe, hastati or legionary.
2)Some units are displayed as the peasants from Rome Total War Vanilla, and, when i start a battle with them, an Error message apears.
3)When i go to options, it says that the game's version is helix4.
But, anyway it's working, i'll download helix 7, and then we see what hapens :)

[bovi]

I think I forgot to say thank you for your persistence in this. It's tedious business to find which part of the changes are causing problems, when it only affects a tiny number of people. If Helix7 works as well, there are very few changes left, so the remaining work will be rather short. I'll basically make an archive of the revision that is halfway between 6 and 7 if 7 doesn't work, and halfway between 7 and 1.0 if 7 works.

1) That sounds very weird indeed. Perhaps it is corrupted in some way :shrug:. Still, as you say, it loads...

2) Some UI was missing until the last point in development, so I think this is okay.

3) Yeah, we didn't bother to create a new screen at that point.

[Strategos Alexandros]

For 1. have you switched the EDU around?

[bovi]

Oh yeah, I missed that he said custom battles. That is quite okay then, expected behaviour.

[Stone and Blood]

Helix 7 is working, i can load custom battle and start campaings.
The version that apears at options screen is 1.
I Still can't choose the roman units, like principes and legionary, at custom battle. Strategos Alexandros, i realy don't know what EDU is this :), sorry.
Ah... another thing that i forgot to say before... The Barbarian faction's musics are strange, all i can hear is some strange noises that i realt can't describe.
But, anyway, Helix7 is working, very surprising to me, because i tought the game would crash at helix 6 or 5 :)... And after all, i'll try to instal EB1.0 again, my computer is 1giga ram now, i want to see if it could change in some way the behaviour of the game...

[bovi]

Okay, you do that. In the meantime, I'll compile an archive that is halfway from H7 to 1.0.

Edit: That will have to wait for about an hour, I've found something that could restore my harddisk.

[Stone and Blood]

1.0 installed... but is still like before, can't start camaping or custom battle...

[Dolch]

Installed this modification, No sound . Where is the problem? Also when booting error message: EB \ Data \ descr_event_images.txt.

[bovi]

Please make your own help thread.

Stone&Blood, check your PMs.

[Stone and Blood]

Sorry Bovi. I didn't download what you sent me because my internet is weird, the download is 699 bytes/second, and will take me 247 hours O.o...
This should be happaning bacause of a strong rain, very common where i live in summer season, i'll download it soon as possible,

[Stone and Blood]

Bovi, I downloaded and installed what you sent to me, and the game is working like the 1.0 version, crashes when I start custom battle or campaing.

Here is the log: http://rapidshare.com/files/86519235/LogEB174.rar.html

[Harkonnen]

Hello to all.

I had the same problem, i have the v.081a and the v.10 installed.

I resolve the problem of the beginning using the -nm as you stone and blood. And I resolve the problem of beginning a campaing updating the Nvidia drivers. (i have a Nvidia FX5700). For now i´m playing my campaing without problems... (almost five turns...). I don´t make any other change.

[Harkonnen]

The visual effect at the beginnig before put the -nm:

https://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=romeproblemku1.png

I hope that you have luck with the drivers...

[Stone and Blood]

Harknenn, thanks for the information, mine is Nvidia Geforce FX5200, perhaps i should update my driver too. But I still want to fix the CTD with Bovi's help, till I get Nvidia 5700 or higher.
I realy dont understand, mi PC run Medieval total war 2, wich is much heavier, with even more detailed graphics without problem.

[bovi]

Thank you for testing, and for your continued patience in this. We're getting closer to finding the cause, I think, as there are not many revisions between Helix7 and the one I gave you last. Unfortunately, I'm not in a position right now to build another one in between those. I'll hopefully get back to you on Monday, sorry for the delay.

[Stone and Blood]

When I was playing helix7, the musics of the barbarian factions were very weird, i can't describe, but were very strange, dont know why. The other factions musics are normal.

[bovi]

Sent you a PM.

[Stone and Blood]

Ok, already gettig the 1.0 version, then ill step back to 1400

[bovi]

Sweet. Feel free to step forward and backward at your own descretion, depending on the results. Notice that some revisions may be inherently unstable or an incomplete update (some of the members like to do operations in many steps), you'll probably know whether it's the same problem if Filemon keeps saying the diplomats are the last stuff accessed before closing everything down. If it's something else, step forward a revision or two (use the comments in the log to see what's happening right then).

[Stone and Blood]

I get many of the files, but after a while my brother turned off the computer without my permission. I turned it on and used the clean up option, then I started the update again. But the program said that there was a file in the eb/data/songs/music whose name already exists, and the update stoped. I closed the program and used the clen up option, but when I started the update the same message appeared. So I removed the music file. I started the update again, but it said the same thing about another music file, the name already exists. A removed and started the update, but the message appeared again, so i removed all the music files, and the update went on again.
Now I wake up to see how is the update going, and the same message appeared, but about a descr_battle_movement_modyfier.txt( something like that). I removed it, but the message appeared again, and again. No matter how many "clean up" I make, nothing changes. I was thinking about use this update on an empty folder, so these messages wouldn't appear again, and then I copy the files to my Europa Barbarorum's folder.
Any sugestion?

[bovi]

Yeah, sorry about that. When interrupted, it may leave some undesired stuff, usually the cleanup fixes it but not always. You need to delete the whole folder with the offending file, then update again.

[Stone and Blood]

I deleted the whole folder of the texts descr_something, now everything is going right :).

[Stone and Blood]

1.0 version still doesn't work. Here is the log of the 1400version:
http://rapidshare.com/files/87614740/LogEB1400version.rar.html
Crashed when i tryied a Romani Campaing, and as always, complains about diplmats.
Now going to 1300 version.

[Stone and Blood]

1300 Crashes too,Diplomats are with full power >.<, here is the log:
http://rapidshare.com/files/87632582/LogEB1300version.rar.html
1250 working, then i tryied 1275 and crashed, many complains about diplomat.
Here is the log:http://rapidshare.com/files/87671034/LogEB1275.rar.html
Now moving to 1263.

[bovi]

Great, sounds like we're getting good progress now. The revisions in between 1250 and 1275 are mostly to do with the Greek voicemod (and 1263 is identical to 1250 actually), but there's one intermingled change to unit stats and another adding the campaign difficulty description to the factions. I have a hard time figuring out which could possibly cause this :inquisitive:...

Could you update only text/campaign_descriptions.txt to 1275 and try that. I really don't think this is it, just want to eliminate it.

Also update export_descr_unit.txt to 1269 and do the same. I am more inclined to suspect this one.

If neither of those provoke the crash, it has to be something to do with the Greek voicemod.

[Stone and Blood]

bovi, after many tests, I finaly discovered the last version that works in my computer, is the version nunmber 1273.The log of the 1274 version complains
about diplomats. So, I created a text document that has all the updates from the 1269 version to 1274, where the game crashes here it is: http://rapidshare.com/files/88140493/ebtest.rar.html

[bovi]

Okay, so it has something to do with the greek voicemod, thanks. Could you try to update only the export_descr_sounds_units_voice.txt and export_descr_sounds_soldiers_voice.txt to 1274?

If that works, I'll make a version of the EDU using only the generic voices instead of the greek voicemod, for computers like yours. If not, it's harder as I'd have to excise the greek voicemod in its entirety :sweatdrop:.

[Stone and Blood]

Bovi, I will be away from my computer for a while, realy don't know when I'll be back, but soon as possible I'll do the things you asked.
Again, many thanks for your help and patience :)

[bovi]

Once you get this working, there's a beta version for you to test, if you care to :beam:.

[Stone and Blood]

Yes, I'll do what I can :)

I did what you said, I didn't find any export_descr_sounds_soldiers_voice.txt , I found: export_descr_sounds_soldier_voice.txt
Without the "s" of "soldiers" , I updated that one to the revision number 1274.
When I started the game, the following error message appeared:
Script error in eb/data/export_descr_unit.txt , at line 954, column 24, could not find soldier battle model for unit type 'yubtseb elephant gnitekram'.

[bovi]

:stunned::inquisitive: I'll have to test that myself.

[Stone and Blood]

Sorry Bovi, I don't know what happened, but after the error, I deleted the export_descr_unit.txt and then updated my EB folder to 1273 again, and the game is running without errors.
But then, I did what you said, the game crashed when I started a Romani campaing, here is the log:
http://rapidshare.com/files/90482640/Logeb12731274.rar.html

[bovi]

Okay, thanks. It will be more work to get rid of it then.

[bovi]

Okay, now I'm anxious to see if this works. Update to the latest revision, then replace the three files in this archive (ftp://europabarbarorum.org/exGreek.rar). It's basically the sounds files from 1273, and the latest EDU minus the changes made in 1274, so the Greek voicemod is cut out.

[Stone and Blood]

Okay... I post here the results later.

[Stone and Blood]

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Oh... My.... God!!!! It is working!!!!!!!
Thanks Bovi, you just made the world a better place, one more person playing EB1.0 :laugh4:
I'm ready of the beta tests!
Edit: at custom battle, all i can choose from the romans are mercenary units. What should I do?

[bovi]

Check my sig for a tool to switch the EDU for custom battles.

Whenever you're ready, go to the beta testing forum to download the new build. Possibly I'll have to cut away the greek voicemod for you in that version too, let's see how it works.

Edit: Oh wait, you can't use that EDU as you're bound by this non-voicemod version. No custom battles for you. Sorry.