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MidnightGreen
08-30-2002, 22:14
Playing as England yr 1224 on normal. Have ally with France, Spanish, Aragon, Dutch and couple others. I have been trying to get my princess wed to other factions and have also been trying to get other factions princess to marry my heirs but not 1 friggin time have they said yes. What gives? I havent attcked anyone i have been fairly peaceful yet I wind up having to marry my princess' off to my generals in order to not let htem become spinsters. Also my kings get to be about 40 and when they inherit crown they have to keep taking a new wife instead of a princess from other faction. Know I know how to propose marriages and the like but what I want to know is what is the secret to this, and is anyone else having same problem?
Barkhorn1x
08-30-2002, 22:37
Are these girls, like....
REALLY ugly http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
I mean your Generals HAVE TO marry them - Kings orders you know. But a foreign king is another story.
Seriously though - that just seems like bad luck. Keep trying.
Regards,
Barkhorn.
Ii Naomasa
08-30-2002, 22:45
I've had the best luck when there's been something for the AI to gain from the proposal. Much like your example, I've found it nearly impossible to have weddings between myself and factions that I've been friends with for ages. Most of my marriages come when I've broken an alliance (because of a conflict of interests between my various allies). These have often been accidental, as I have emissaries running about trying to get wives for my princes and occassionally they'll ask just as I break up.
It's pretty funny. Send two emissaries, one to Faction A and one to Faction B. If during the same turn they reach their targets A & B go to war, if you break with B to stay friends with A, B will (at least in my experience) more likely accept and A will reject. While that makes sense from the standpoint of doing things just to suit and end goal, it's almost counter-intuitive.
How many proposals have people gotten from the AI? I've only play two campaigns for any real length of time and one was as the Egyptians who didn't have to worry about it, but I've only gotten one proposal in all the time I've played as Christian factions, while it seems like I spend a good portion of my time trying to play matchmaker.
MidnightGreen
08-30-2002, 23:05
Thats just it I dont get any nor have I ever gotten 1 proposal, which is odd because I see about 5-6 princess' near the king not doing anything. I have tried to marry to HRE but (neutral to me now I beleive) but still no luck. I'm almost to the point of giving up the whole damn wedding thing. Its like the AI refuses to marry the princess' off to me
Dionysus9
08-30-2002, 23:09
I had a similar experience playing the British once on Hard. I made too many mistakes and scrapped the campaign, starting over on Expert. This time my princesses were hotties or something, because everyone was beating my gates down trying to score with them. I don't know if it had anything to do with the fact I was at war with a ton of factions, or some other difference I had created. Sometimes I just think marrying into your faction is unnatractive for whatever reason. Try a different campaign and see if you get a better result. I bet you will.
Gunga Din
08-30-2002, 23:11
Princesses are an asset. There has to be something gained from the AI to allow these marriages.
You need to be powerful and expanding and the princesses will come to you.
The AI sees you as a threat and wants to seal a deal with a princess
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Toda Nebuchadnezzar
08-30-2002, 23:15
Perhaps as the difficulty level goes up the more proposals u get or acceptances u get because the computer is trying to level our the fairness.
Just a hunch.
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The other factions in the game don't want to have a ceasefire with me. They want to die. I always get the message that the other guy doesn't see any value in a ceasefire even after I've reduced his army to rubble and his provinces from 12 to 4 and I have powerful stacks near his territories.
Papewaio
08-31-2002, 05:05
Quote Originally posted by Gunga Din:
You need to be powerful and expanding and the princesses will come to you.
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Ain't that the truth.
Iced~Metal
08-31-2002, 07:08
Just destroy the factions who keep rejecting you.
Somehow I managed to wed the King of France. Is that supposed to affect the level of friendship between our factions? Should be a stronger relationship than just some no-name General.
Better than having semi-sterile kings for six generations. All they want to do is have daughters. So I have eight princesses and not one prince. Everytime a king dies there is a massive civil war that I have the main man, Sir FilGilbert the Fearless, stomp out.
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Originally posted by Gunga Din:
You need to be powerful and expanding and the princesses will come to you.
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>>Ain't that the truth.
- Papewaio
If this is meant to be a joke, its pretty great. LOL.
I have noticed that if you declare war on a faction then all the factions that will run with them, not you, will accept the marriages (if you have sent an Emmi or Princess) and then the same turn say they can't stay allied with you. They get all the benefits and I get nothing. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Sneaky types.
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well best roun i had about 5 princesses wanting to maryy my faction... it baffled me, but then when i realised they were all from the enemy, i thought they were desperate
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