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Strike For The South
11-26-2007, 02:44
I really hate to do this but my badassness in real life prevents me sharing emotion with my family or friends.

Im an easy going guy. Nothing usually worrys or upsets me and Im always looking for my next good time. Wether girls were there or not was never really an issue. I got mine when it mattered. However during the summer I hooked up with a friend of mine who I had a little crush on. Well one thing led to another and we started dating. Things were going great and lately we had just been going at like pigs on slop. Then she left for thanksgiving and when she came back she was very angry at me for not calling her as soon as she got in town. I didnt get it. So we argued and last night I call her up and she seems fine so she comes over and watches a movie. I can tell something is wrong but she denies it. So I go to drop her off and Im walking her to her door (in the freezing rain) and I told her that I knew something was wrong and she needed to tell me. She looked at me and looked away and said she didnt think she had been a good enough girlfriend and she thought she was holding me back. She also said that those feelings just wernt there anymore. Im just floored, the only thing that comes out of my mouth is "Do you wanna break up" and she looks and all she does is nod. So I told her if thats how she really flet than thats fine. So we hugged and then for about 3 seconds we just stared at eachother wondering if we she kiss....we didnt. We went our ways. About 5 mins later I pulled my truck over and vomited everywhere. I didnt cry or get mad I just vommited. I really liked this girl she was so perfect and now its gone. I've never felt this way about anything before. My football teams have lost Ive spilt my beer Ive broken bones and torn my body to sherds. But nothing in my life has ever hit me as hard as this. Its a dadgum kick in the friggin nuts. This girl meant so much and now shes gone.:embarassed:

Ice
11-26-2007, 02:45
I really hate to do this but my badassness in real life prevents me sharing emotion with my family or friends.

Im an easy going guy. Nothing usually worrys or upsets me and Im always looking for my next good time. Wether girls were there or not was never really an issue. I got mine when it mattered. However during the summer I hooked up with a friend of mine who I had a little crush on. Well one thing led to another and we started dating. Things were going great and lately we had just been going at like pigs on slop. Then she left for thanksgiving and when she came back she was very angry at me for not calling her as soon as she got in town. I didnt get it. So we argued and last night I call her up and she seems fine so she comes over and watches a movie. I can tell something is wrong but she denies it. So I go to drop her off and Im walking her to her door (in the freezing rain) and I told her that I knew something was wrong and she needed to tell me. She looked at me and looked away and said she didnt think she had been a good enough girlfriend and she thought she was holding me back. She also said that those feelings just wernt there anymore. Im just floored, the only thing that comes out of my mouth is "Do you wanna break up" and she looks and all she does is nod. So I told her if thats how she really flet than thats fine. So we hugged and then for about 3 seconds we just stared at eachother wondering if we she kiss....we didnt. We went our ways. About 5 mins later I pulled my truck over and vomited everywhere. I didnt cry or get mad I just vommited. I really liked this girl she was so perfect and now its gone. I've never felt this way about anything before. My football teams have lost Ive spilt my beer Ive broken bones and torn my body to sherds. But nothing in my life has ever hit me as hard as this. Its a dadgum kick in the friggin nuts. This girl meant so much and now shes gone.:embarassed:

Tough break man.

Strike For The South
11-26-2007, 02:53
wow writing is therputic

Papewaio
11-26-2007, 03:00
Happens to all of us. Not much solace, but you will survive.

She said she wasn't a good enough girlfriend for you...

Well how do you feel? Is she correct? Is she holding you back? What do you want to achieve in life? You are still young and you have the world at your feet.

So maybe it is time to take a big breath and think on this. For a long term relationship you should ask yourself this question "Do I want this woman to be the mother of my children?"... if that question is not even for consideration then I would say keep on dating and keep on learning. Life is learning. If that question is a resounding YES... then think about what you need to achieve to look after a family... think truly longterm (the further out you can think the better off you will be in life)... and then think if you are on track and if you are and she is potentially a lifemate then chase her.

Just remember to pursue happiness over pleasure. I've seen it too many times, guys throwing away their career opportunities to chase a girl and then losing both sets of chances. It's about maintaining a life balance. A positive relationship is where two people date and they end up achieving more together. If that is where it is going, even if it is just a short term relationship, then see if you can convince her to stay with you.

If not, then channel that energy into the gym and studies.

Beirut
11-26-2007, 03:11
Happens to all of us. Not much solace, but you will survive.



Yep.

There is no cure, nor is there hope for a cure. You're just going to have to bite down and deal with it, 'cause no matter what you do it's going to happen several more times. Welcome to manhood.

Find a buddy, have a beer and a sandwich, and at least take solace in the knowledge that not a man who walks the earth escapes this particular beating.

El Diablo
11-26-2007, 03:57
That is such a shame SFTS.

But as Beruit noted you will be very lucky man if this only happens to you once in your life.

Pick yourself up, dust of your shoulders, stand tall and proud (it is not like you have done anything wrong) and have a good hard think about it. If you want her back then tell her and tell her why.

If she still is not interested at least you tried. It takes two to make a relationship work and if she is not in it 100% then you would only get hurt further down the line.

Such is life. :wall:

CrossLOPER
11-26-2007, 04:03
EDIT: That does not look quite as helpful as it sounded in my mind. Never mind.

Lemur
11-26-2007, 04:36
I'm sorry for your loss, Strike. Breaking up when you're young sucks extra hard. Not sure why, but it does.

El Diablo
11-26-2007, 04:45
Hah Lemur thats cause us older guys are used to it.

Not to say it dont hurt SFTS but - yeah it happens.

Just be thnkful that at your age she doesn't take half the house.... :wall:

seireikhaan
11-26-2007, 04:54
Bummer, man. I guess that I'm gonna end up echoing others in that there's not much to be done, :daisy: happens to us all, and it hit you especially hard. I can't claim to understand what her reasonings were, as the workings of female minds are one of the things I fear I will never completely comprehend. Just gotta stand tall, like the true Texan you are, and roll with the punches life brings.

KukriKhan
11-26-2007, 05:16
Hah Lemur thats cause us older guys are used to it.

Not to say it dont hurt SFTS but - yeah it happens.

Just be thnkful that at your age she doesn't take half the house.... :wall:

Yeah. At least you've still got your truck, your job, your self-respect, and a slightly mangled, but still workable heart - and hey(!) on the 'up' side: one less christmas present to buy.

Still... teh sux, man. Sorry.

Strike For The South
11-26-2007, 05:23
Yeah. At least you've still got your truck, your job, your self-respect, and a slightly mangled, but still workable heart - and hey(!) on the 'up' side: one less christmas present to buy.

Still... teh sux, man. Sorry.

I'd trade all those

IrishArmenian
11-26-2007, 08:25
Wow, that is a wretched feeling. No one likes being there.

Rodion Romanovich
11-26-2007, 10:28
The sad truth is that: the chances of getting a lasting relationship are inversely proportional to how much the partner means to you

Whenever you think a woman means really much to you, turn around as soon as possible. The later you turn around, the more painful and lengthy the rehabiliation, but you will eventually get over it. You've only got less than 6 months with her, so it will probably take less than 3 months to get over her. To facilitate getting over her faster, you may consider going through all logistical changes it means to your life, and solve any problems that may occur. Love in modern society is in fact 99% logistics anyway, no matter how much we like to deny it.

Husar
11-26-2007, 11:38
I'm very sorry for you SFTS, I can only wish you all the best for the future.
She may come back, you may find another one, hard to tell but I hope you'll be happy either way. ~:)


For a long term relationship you should ask yourself this question "Do I want this woman to be the mother of my children?"
That's what I always ask myself before attempting a relationship. :laugh4:

Odin
11-26-2007, 13:14
Tough break man, but you know what the "nod" didnt seem all that convincing to me. Be open to a reconcilliation if you like the girl, just dont count on it.

macsen rufus
11-26-2007, 15:30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Papewaio
For a long term relationship you should ask yourself this question "Do I want this woman to be the mother of my children?"

Personally I ask "Will I still feel this way when either of us needs bed-baths, a Zimmer frame, and nursing care?"

Gah, I'm single again, it's a hard choice sometimes....

Tough times, STFS, and it sure hurts. Just hope one day you'll find that rare one who has you looking back on this and wondering why it seemed to matter. Hard as it may seem, there are things that hurt more though, and you'll probably meet most of 'em before your days are out. I know it's not much consolation, but remember that to lose it, you have to have it first, and you did, for however short a while.

For now, wish I could e-mail you a shot or two of bourbon :embarassed: At least claim your free evening of forgivable drunkenness if you have a good buddy in town :2thumbsup:

Fragony
11-26-2007, 15:46
Sounds completily fixable to me.

'She looked at me and looked away and said she didnt think she had been a good enough girlfriend and she thought she was holding me back.'

-->translation: call me first then your mother. She is playing you like a violin, you are heartbroken that helps, hold that thought.

Geoffrey S
11-26-2007, 15:55
It's never nice, but think of one thing: the worse it feels at the moment shows just how good a times you had. Remember those, and not the break-up.

Vladimir
11-26-2007, 15:55
Where's Banquo? We need Shakespeare quotes.

Not a good enough girlfriend? Holding you back? Either she has some real self-esteem issues (lots of sex can be a symptom) or it was a short term fling. Enjoy the pain while it lasts. If you're not in pain or cold, you're probably dead. Chicks dig scars, especially the ones that run deep.

Fragony
11-26-2007, 16:10
You guys really don't understand women, no wonder most of you are married. Nothing is lost Strike, quite the contrary, you completily misinterpeted what just happened. She wants things to be more serious and wants some devotion from your part, that is what she said, 'holding you back', they are masters of reverse psycholigy alright.

ICantSpellDawg
11-26-2007, 16:24
Necessary for your development. Hang out with some friends (male ones) and move on. Nothing that anyone can say will do much. Perfect girls have very little drama. Fuming through writing or talking with friends helped me when I was young and felt things.

Vladimir
11-26-2007, 16:25
If I have a son and he asks me what women want, I'll tell him that question lies on the assumption that they know what they want. Sometimes it's "good enough" FTW!

Adrian II
11-26-2007, 17:34
At your age you'll always have tomorrow. I have a lot of yesterdays.

But yeah, it stinks.

El Diablo
11-26-2007, 20:50
You guys really don't understand women, no wonder most of you are married. by Fraggony

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

That is the best quote of the day. Classic!!!

Tribesman
11-26-2007, 21:36
Why does Strikes OP remind me of this song ?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NHOf3s70w-c

Lemur
11-26-2007, 22:22
Why does Strikes OP remind me of this song ?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NHOf3s70w-c
I was thinking more of this (https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y0TEa-Aa4sU&feature=related). But then I couldn't stop laughing.

Adrian II
11-26-2007, 22:33
You guys really don't understand women, no wonder most of you are married. Nothing is lost Strike, quite the contrary, you completily misinterpeted what just happened. She wants things to be more serious and wants some devotion from your part, that is what she said, 'holding you back', they are masters of reverse psycholigy alright.Jesus Fragony, you're starting to sound like Dr Phil. :embarassed:

And yeah, most of us are married. Given the choice between that and being chained naked to a radiator in my basement, my woman was all for it. I keep the chains around though.

Fragony
11-26-2007, 22:40
Jesus Fragony, you're starting to sound like Dr Phil. :embarassed:

And yeah, most of us are married. Given the choice between that and being chained naked to a radiator in my basement, my woman was all for it. I keep the chains around though.

You are lucky my radiator is a total b*tch, girl that came with it is ok though.

Papewaio
11-26-2007, 23:02
You guys really don't understand women, no wonder most of you are married.

ROFL :2thumbsup:

:whip: Yes, Dear. It's my fault Dear. Yes, I'll be off the computer soon...

woad&fangs
11-26-2007, 23:12
Fragony, I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. The correct translation is I don't feel like I've been a good enough girlfriend to you, I feel that I'm holding you back, Those feelings for you just aren't there any more.

If I have learned one thing about girls, it is that they often lie to you to try and protect your feelings.

Ex:
I hate to tell you this but i don't think i'm ready for another relationship right now. It's not just you, i just think i want time to get things normal again.

I was not there so I can't read her body language or anything like that and I might be wrong but I believe she just doesn't have feelings for you anymore and because you two are friends she didn't want to hurt your feelings.

Your situation sucks SFTS but I wish you the best of luck.

master of the puppets
11-27-2007, 05:11
sigh *pats SFTS on the back*
it'll pass man, just get a beer, get some sleep and hang out wit yur buddies, everything will be all right.

hey and if you truly feel like crap just remember, you have friends here... and i'm sure at least a few of them know of a good mail order bride service.

Boyar Son
11-27-2007, 05:19
I heard beer at these times will only make you cry and do something stupid.

dont take it to hard, look ahead instead of something you cant help now. Remember, its all about YOU.

Ice
11-27-2007, 06:23
I heard beer at these times will only make you cry and do something stupid.

dont take it to hard, look ahead instead of something you cant help now. Remember, its all about YOU.

Heh, now that's a helpful post.

Alcohol definitely isn't the answer and you will probably do something stupid.

Xiahou
11-27-2007, 11:00
Fragony, I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. If I had to guess, I'd say Frag was right. She was pissed because he didn't call. Then he argues about it and denies any wrongdoing. Then he tries to act like nothing happened and doesn't know why she's mad. All of this leads her to conclude that he doesn't take the relationship seriously.

At least, I'm guessing that's how she saw it. Of course I'm married, so I probably don't know what the hell Im talking about. :beam:

English assassin
11-27-2007, 11:11
If I had to guess, I'd say Frag was right. She was pissed because he didn't call. Then he argues about it and denies any wrongdoing. Then he tries to act like nothing happened and doesn't know why she's mad. All of this leads her to conclude that he doesn't take the relationship seriously.

IMHO these things just happen, there is no point trying to work out why, or what you could have done differently. You'll never know. The only thing you can do is let time pass.

Tough break STFS. At least they can't take being British Texan from you though.:yes:

Husar
11-27-2007, 14:35
Of course this thread had to have some stereotyping of girls (yeah, really, they're all the same, just like all men are like me ~:rolleyes: ) and some blanket statements (beer can help, it depends on whether you're actually like me or not ~D ).

That said, I would guess that Xiahou is right.

PanzerJaeger
11-27-2007, 18:32
How old are you man? 18? You got lucky...

Next time don't get so emotionally involved, you could have ended up married with kids by 20... happens all the time.. talk about something to throw up uncontrollably over. :dizzy2:

You've got your whole life ahead of you. College, career, fun.. Enjoy it before you end up tied down having to pay for a wife and kids that don't even care only to end up cheating on her because she won't give it up unless she gets the new car, causing the kids to hate you and the wife to take all your stuff... ahh, the american dream.

IrishArmenian
11-28-2007, 01:04
Next time don't get so emotionally involved
Are you joking? Restraining emotion is one of the most damaging things one can do to oneself!

Strike For The South
11-28-2007, 02:21
She seems serouis about being friends. Shes gone out of her way to talk to me. I dont know if I can deal with this sorta downgrade just yet. Ive kinda blown her off. What really sucks is that we share the same friends and we used to do everything together. Getting drunk isnt going to be quite as fun

GeneralHankerchief
11-28-2007, 02:25
Get drunk together (during a party with mutual friends present or something) and see what happens. That might be the best barometer of what's really up.

Papewaio
11-28-2007, 02:30
Quite the opposite. If a relationship is not sustainable without having to use alcohol there isn't a point.

Vladimir
11-28-2007, 15:00
She seems serouis about being friends. Shes gone out of her way to talk to me. I dont know if I can deal with this sorta downgrade just yet. Ive kinda blown her off. What really sucks is that we share the same friends and we used to do everything together. Getting drunk isnt going to be quite as fun

The worst thing you can do is turn her into an enemy. If the relationship doesn't work out there's always "friends with benefits." Besides, you're ruining it for the rest of us. Many women don't want to go from friends to dating because of what you're doing right now.

Fragony
11-28-2007, 16:48
What really sucks is that we share the same friends and we used to do everything together.

Look at the bright side, that's convenient. You made a mistake it will be fine, unless of course it won't but it doesn't sound like that, she's just torturing you a bit if you ask me.

Mouzafphaerre
11-28-2007, 17:58
I'd trade all those
.
True Texan talk! :laugh4:

Well, whatever we say, it will hurt mate. But then you'll get over it. It's life. :shrug:
.

ajaxfetish
11-29-2007, 02:29
If love wasn't so hard, we wouldn't really appreciate it when it does work out.

These things are guaranteed to hurt, and to hurt worse than pretty much anything else. The pain means you're still alive, and still capable of feeling, and that's a positive thing. There's nothing wrong with crying, nothing wrong with feeling angry, and nothing wrong with vomiting all over the roadside. If you let yourself truly experience the pain, you will come to terms with it and move on quicker. If you try to avoid it, to push it from your mind or drown it with alcohol, it'll fester. Once you've got past the initial trauma, take some time to contemplate who you are, what you care most about, and what she has contributed to your life. Whether you remain friends or not, there are certainly things you've learned or experienced in this relationship that will benefit you in the future if you take note of them.

Ajax

Shahed
11-29-2007, 03:02
I really hate to do this but my badassness in real life prevents me sharing emotion with my family or friends.

Im an easy going guy. Nothing usually worrys or upsets me and Im always looking for my next good time. Wether girls were there or not was never really an issue. I got mine when it mattered. However during the summer I hooked up with a friend of mine who I had a little crush on. Well one thing led to another and we started dating. Things were going great and lately we had just been going at like pigs on slop. Then she left for thanksgiving and when she came back she was very angry at me for not calling her as soon as she got in town. I didnt get it. So we argued and last night I call her up and she seems fine so she comes over and watches a movie. I can tell something is wrong but she denies it. So I go to drop her off and Im walking her to her door (in the freezing rain) and I told her that I knew something was wrong and she needed to tell me. She looked at me and looked away and said she didnt think she had been a good enough girlfriend and she thought she was holding me back. She also said that those feelings just wernt there anymore. Im just floored, the only thing that comes out of my mouth is "Do you wanna break up" and she looks and all she does is nod. So I told her if thats how she really flet than thats fine. So we hugged and then for about 3 seconds we just stared at eachother wondering if we she kiss....we didnt. We went our ways. About 5 mins later I pulled my truck over and vomited everywhere. I didnt cry or get mad I just vommited. I really liked this girl she was so perfect and now its gone. I've never felt this way about anything before. My football teams have lost Ive spilt my beer Ive broken bones and torn my body to sherds. But nothing in my life has ever hit me as hard as this. Its a dadgum kick in the friggin nuts. This girl meant so much and now shes gone.:embarassed:

I'm sorry to hear that. Hope you're feeling better. I'll read the rest of the thread, but just wanted to post that, and a few other points.

Don't worry about it bro.

Women are everywhere, they are abundant, no shortage. And remarkably the more women you sleep with, the more relationships you have with them, the more you realise how similar they really are, and to find a real gem is rare.

In the moments when you are in love, or are attached it's easy to overlook someone's real character. Love is indeed blind. It's only after a while that you look back and say THANK GOD that's over !

Feelings are transient, what you feel today you may not feel tomorrow. You won't feel down forever. It will pass. The sooner you carry on with your life the sooner they will pass, and be replaced by feelings of joy, happiness.... and love for another or for many others.

edyzmedieval
11-29-2007, 21:42
Feelings are transient, what you feel today you may not feel tomorrow. You won't feel down forever. It will pass.

Hey, that's me! :embarassed:
My room-mate just told me that "I don't care who you like or love. It won't last for more than 2-3 days, and by then you will like 2-3 other girls."

*pats the Texan*

The hell with it man, I ruined a conversation with the girl I liked which I could have done it into something really nice. Join the club.

Slug For A Butt
11-29-2007, 22:48
The hell with it man, I ruined a conversation with the girl I liked which I could have done it into something really nice. Join the club.

I did that too, I proposed to her. :wall:

Vladimir
11-29-2007, 22:51
I did that too, I proposed to her. :wall:

Let me guess, she wasn't a royalist.

Shahed
11-29-2007, 22:52
LMFAO

Ice
11-29-2007, 23:28
She seems serouis about being friends. Shes gone out of her way to talk to me. I dont know if I can deal with this sorta downgrade just yet. Ive kinda blown her off. What really sucks is that we share the same friends and we used to do everything together. Getting drunk isnt going to be quite as fun

If that's the biggest problem in your life, Strike, be happy.

Trust me, be happy.

Plenty of other women.

Kralizec
11-29-2007, 23:48
Sorry to hear that, Strike.


Get drunk together (during a party with mutual friends present or something) and see what happens. That might be the best barometer of what's really up.

On that note: never, ever even consider taking back a girl that dumped you previously. Unless you think you have the heart to dump her in turn before she can do it again. You'll just feel used.

Just give it time and let it all rest.

Husar
11-30-2007, 00:23
If that's the biggest problem in your life, Strike, be happy.

Trust me, be happy.

Plenty of other women.
The problem is, you want just one. :dizzy2:

Ice
11-30-2007, 00:44
The problem is, you want just one. :dizzy2:

That feeling is only short term.

If you can't even stand to be with her without feeling bad, than don't.

Time heals.

Adrian II
11-30-2007, 01:00
The problem is, you want just one. :dizzy2:Soon, Banquo's Ghost and I will relieve you of that notion as well. :sneaky:

Papewaio
11-30-2007, 01:06
While I'm drinking a cappuccino and eating thick creamy yoghurt :coffeenews: that's an image of a threesome :damnmate: I can do without. ~:eek:

Shahed
11-30-2007, 01:11
LMAO

One-itis, that's the syndrome of just wanting one woman.

It is not particularly human to want just one woman. Although for a lot, even most men it is adequate to have just one woman, through rigorous societal conditioning. Even so these males still lust for other women but often (not always) suppress their natural breeding instinct in favor of being loyal to one.

When you examine any pack animal the most successful males have many females lusting for them. The most successful males have mating rights with almost all females in the pack. These males earn these rights through leadership, hunting skill, protection and providing ability. Translated to human terms, money, fame, power, career success, property & assets, leading other men, mastery of the society, to name a few.

Humans are pack animals.

The success of the males is not the only reason females find these males attractive. One of the other reasons is that they see this male is already eyed, taken or being/been seduced (for want of a better term) by other females. This is called preselection. When other females see that you are in demand and wanted by other females, they will want you all the more too. If you are preselected by other females, you will find it far easier to mate with new females.

If you want just one, be successful with many, and you will be able to choose the one you want much, much easier.

Considering, at that stage, you are now successful in attracting and bedding many females, that one female you chose to bond with for life, will have to be very, very special. She must earn the right to be with you long term, she must work for it. If this right is granted without due course and effort on her part, she will never respect the union. if she earns the right through effort and demonstration that she is worthy to be your wife, she feels that she really had to invest to have you, she will honor her own investment and value you all the more.

Husar
11-30-2007, 01:44
Soon, Banquo's Ghost and I will relieve you of that notion as well. :sneaky:
First you took my religion, now you also want my love. :help:

Also Sinan, thanks for reassuring me that I'll forever be single. :oops:

It's about time for me to...oh wait this thread was about SFTS, not me, I should not open it again until I'm finally gay. :sweatdrop:

edit: By the way I absolutely hate the kind of advice that goes "just be yourself, so do this do that and they'll love you" because when I do this and that then I'm not myself anymore, I've been pretending to be a devout christian for about 18 years(I've been a christian, just not as devout as I sometimes pretended) so the least I want to do now is get a woman that loves me because I'm pretending to be some way I am not or just because she's jealous of other women. :furious3:

Maybe strike can use this "advice" of mine. ~;)
I feel a bit bad for semi-derailing his thread, still hope it turns out well either way.

Mouzafphaerre
11-30-2007, 02:05
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Ass mode on:

Ice & Sinan,

You're stereotypical and cliché mates.

Ass mode off.
.

Mouzafphaerre
11-30-2007, 02:08
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Husar, I feel for you man! ~:pat: Been there myself. Scratch that, I'm right there! Naturally I'm a rugged hobo looking freak. Now I'm pretending to look self caring and cool.

But I assure you, there must be something good about it. :thinking: Just that I don't know. :shrug:


...And I'm way older than you guys...
.

Ice
11-30-2007, 02:09
.
Ass mode on:

Ice & Sinan,

You're stereotypical and cliché mates.

Ass mode off.
.

*shrugs*

I was speaking from personal experience.

Boyar Son
11-30-2007, 02:34
It's about time for me to...oh wait this thread was about SFTS, not me, I should not open it again until I'm finally gay. :sweatdrop:



dont do it!!



maybe SFTS is over it now.. its been days. (unless he's still sad! oh nooo!)

Shahed
11-30-2007, 02:37
Heh! Mouz, guys who say they don't understand women say so because they never tried hard enough, never did the research or they never tried at all. Most importantly they do not have any other theory whatsoever which explains female to male attraction i.e what attracts women. Others pretend they don't understand because it breaks their heart to know what nature is all about.

Husar you ain't gonna be single for long considering you have fine females like this in your country, just waiting for DA MAN!:

DEUTSCHLAND JAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

http://www.rateitall.com/itemimages/6955.jpg

What she's thinking:
"Come on baby.... are you the one to always disappoint the ladies ?" (joking!)

When I see a woman like this, how can I not approach her ? I am afraid somewhere inside, but I go ahead and just do it. I can't look back and imagine that this kind of woman passed by and I did'nt do anything. Was able to do that when I was younger, coming up with all manner of excuses, money, car, this that, age...but not anymore. We only live once. Pushing through your fear is less frightening than living with the underlying fear that comes from a horrid feeling of helplessness. When you are unintimidated by your condition and confident of your future, women want to be part of that future. Particularly when you are younger, women will stick with you in the hopes of you realising your potential. Later they want to see actual success, but even so the only thing you really need to pull a babe like this is self confidence and some hunting skill, and you can have her. You can have any goddam thing you want in this world, if you are willing to figure out how to get it and bust your ass getting there. You have to be willing to go the distance and keep running till you reach your goal.

STFS is probablty over it already, out there doin his thang!

RoadKill
11-30-2007, 06:16
GAhhhhhh. Who needs women when we have beer.

Rodion Romanovich
11-30-2007, 08:52
Best way to get a partner in today's society:
1. get remorseless and indifferent to whether you hurt their feelings. You need to experiment on ones that you don't like so much before you can skillfully enough approach one that matters. This skill is not so much about learning to be a good partner, but about overcoming logistical limitations and Babel-ish "language barriers". A lot of broken-hearted men and women is a necessary consequence of this point.

2. make sure to meet the same person many times. Love at first sight is uncommon, so you must spend enough time with someone to overcome your disliking for that person's vices. When you've suffocated your disgust, you will be able to approach the person with greater success. If you only meet people short periods before they disappear completely from your life, you will never have time to overcome your disgust, and never really gain enough incentive to risk everything for them.

3. under no circumstances admit to yourself that the person you've forced yourself into liking isn't the love of your life, a result of love at first sight, and other great things. Deny to yourself the fact that 99% of all relationships in western Europe and north America are formed by people desperate to procreate but who couldn't find anything better than what they found. Though admittedly, at times you can also admit that it would be a pretty ridiculous coincidence if most people could go around without finding any suitable life time partner for 30 years, then suddenly when they get old enough that they're borderline on losing all handsomeness/beauty, suddenly find someone in less than a few months, and that that person would be a good partner, and not a desperate choice.

4. give up all moral values on telling the truth. Practise lying in front of a mirror. The more you lie, the better. But the most important part isn't the lying itself, but your ability to remain calm when the lie is discovered. When you're capable of staying clam when your lies are revealed, you improve your self-confidence dramatically, and this self-confidence is necessary for success. This, and if you can spawn in yourself a feeling of being superior to all others.

5. try to get the other one drunk. People usually don't dare having sex or starting any relationship when sober, but if you "accidentally" end up in bed when very drunk, you will be able to initiate a relationship from there, since after all, you've already had sex so the most difficult part to initiate in a sober condition has been done (albeit in a drunk condition), so everything from then on is easier.

6. remember that Hitler, Stalin and Napoleon got girl friends, while many men with much higher morality didn't. Your true morality doesn't matter to get a girl friend in modern society, what matters is your ability to convince the girl friend that you have a strong moral position. Use of terror and propaganda to market your type of personality is apparently a successful method.

7. spread fear to the partners, and try to control them. Sometimes when you succeed in gaining such control over the partners, you lose interest in them, since they appear weaker than yourself, and it appears you can find someone better easily. By deliberate, systematic mental breakdown of the partner, you can control her/him, and this facilitates initiation of a relationship. Alcoholics and psychopath wife beaters are more successful at getting girl friends, than those who out of morality refuse to manipulate and control their partners, in today's society. It's no coincidence that intelligent and caring "computer geeks" sit without girl friends, while alcoholic psychopaths get to **** the prom queen.

8. invent rituals that the partner did not know about. Introduce new ways of having sex, not because they're pleasant, but rather the opposite, in order to make the partner feel uncertain and worthless for not knowing about them. This will reinforce your control over the partner, and your own self-confidence. Constantly undermine the certainty of the partner in this manner, make the partner think it's abnormal to not do certain odd things that you invent. But don't take it too far either. Comment on the partner's lack of knowledge and experience in doing these rituals with a mild, friendly laughther, to take a position of superiority combined with understanding.

9. prepare yourself from revenge from previous partners. Naturally the above methods won't make you popular. Then again, in modern society you have to abandon morality as well as what comes with morality: the right to not become victim of justified revenge, if you want a partner.

10. gansters, semi-criminal CEOs and corrupt politicians apparently get laid with the hottest partners of the opposite sex. Rich people on average have sex more often than poor ones. So try and gain hold of a lot of money, regardless of whether it's by crime or hard work. No, I must correct this: under no circumstances try to get it through hard work, or you will hurt your abilities as a smooth talker, you will age faster and hurt your looks, and will appear generally less attractive.

And finally, the most important point of them all: while you do these things, stop looking upon them in the way they are described in this text, and simply stop reflecting about these things.

Note: while the author of this post is sure these are the most successful strategies for partner finding in modern society, he opposes the methods, as well as the society form which favors such a behavior.

Vladimir
11-30-2007, 14:55
GAhhhhhh. Who needs women when we have beer.

We have beer to get women.

KukriKhan
11-30-2007, 15:06
There's some evidence that women (gatherers) probably invented beer, while men (hunters) were out doing their manly-type things.

I wonder if they ever regret that?

note: One observes that every thread started by SFTS lately, either starts out about, or eventually comes around to, beer. Hmmm...

Adrian II
11-30-2007, 15:35
Heh! Mouz, guys who say they don't understand women say so because they never tried hard enough, never did the research (..)Da research !??

Ahhahahahaaa! Good one. :balloon2:

JR-
11-30-2007, 16:27
tough break d00d.

on the other hand, when i was dumped a few years back it resulted in the most fun 9 months i've ever had in my life.

then i met a nice girl and have been good ever since.

mind you, it helped that my best mate got dumped by his girlfriend the same day too. a wingman is essential if you are embarking on a worldwide rompathon.

it has all ended good, so i guess the moral of the story is that you will survive.

best of luck

Ronin
11-30-2007, 16:52
Best way to get a partner in today's society:
1. get remorseless and indifferent to whether you hurt their feelings. You need to experiment on ones that you don't like so much before you can skillfully enough approach one that matters. This skill is not so much about learning to be a good partner, but about overcoming logistical limitations and Babel-ish "language barriers". A lot of broken-hearted men and women is a necessary consequence of this point.

2. make sure to meet the same person many times. Love at first sight is uncommon, so you must spend enough time with someone to overcome your disliking for that person's vices. When you've suffocated your disgust, you will be able to approach the person with greater success. If you only meet people short periods before they disappear completely from your life, you will never have time to overcome your disgust, and never really gain enough incentive to risk everything for them.

3. under no circumstances admit to yourself that the person you've forced yourself into liking isn't the love of your life, a result of love at first sight, and other great things. Deny to yourself the fact that 99% of all relationships in western Europe and north America are formed by people desperate to procreate but who couldn't find anything better than what they found. Though admittedly, at times you can also admit that it would be a pretty ridiculous coincidence if most people could go around without finding any suitable life time partner for 30 years, then suddenly when they get old enough that they're borderline on losing all handsomeness/beauty, suddenly find someone in less than a few months, and that that person would be a good partner, and not a desperate choice.

4. give up all moral values on telling the truth. Practise lying in front of a mirror. The more you lie, the better. But the most important part isn't the lying itself, but your ability to remain calm when the lie is discovered. When you're capable of staying clam when your lies are revealed, you improve your self-confidence dramatically, and this self-confidence is necessary for success. This, and if you can spawn in yourself a feeling of being superior to all others.

5. try to get the other one drunk. People usually don't dare having sex or starting any relationship when sober, but if you "accidentally" end up in bed when very drunk, you will be able to initiate a relationship from there, since after all, you've already had sex so the most difficult part to initiate in a sober condition has been done (albeit in a drunk condition), so everything from then on is easier.

6. remember that Hitler, Stalin and Napoleon got girl friends, while many men with much higher morality didn't. Your true morality doesn't matter to get a girl friend in modern society, what matters is your ability to convince the girl friend that you have a strong moral position. Use of terror and propaganda to market your type of personality is apparently a successful method.

7. spread fear to the partners, and try to control them. Sometimes when you succeed in gaining such control over the partners, you lose interest in them, since they appear weaker than yourself, and it appears you can find someone better easily. By deliberate, systematic mental breakdown of the partner, you can control her/him, and this facilitates initiation of a relationship. Alcoholics and psychopath wife beaters are more successful at getting girl friends, than those who out of morality refuse to manipulate and control their partners, in today's society. It's no coincidence that intelligent and caring "computer geeks" sit without girl friends, while alcoholic psychopaths get to **** the prom queen.

8. invent rituals that the partner did not know about. Introduce new ways of having sex, not because they're pleasant, but rather the opposite, in order to make the partner feel uncertain and worthless for not knowing about them. This will reinforce your control over the partner, and your own self-confidence. Constantly undermine the certainty of the partner in this manner, make the partner think it's abnormal to not do certain odd things that you invent. But don't take it too far either. Comment on the partner's lack of knowledge and experience in doing these rituals with a mild, friendly laughther, to take a position of superiority combined with understanding.

9. prepare yourself from revenge from previous partners. Naturally the above methods won't make you popular. Then again, in modern society you have to abandon morality as well as what comes with morality: the right to not become victim of justified revenge, if you want a partner.

10. gansters, semi-criminal CEOs and corrupt politicians apparently get laid with the hottest partners of the opposite sex. Rich people on average have sex more often than poor ones. So try and gain hold of a lot of money, regardless of whether it's by crime or hard work. No, I must correct this: under no circumstances try to get it through hard work, or you will hurt your abilities as a smooth talker, you will age faster and hurt your looks, and will appear generally less attractive.

And finally, the most important point of them all: while you do these things, stop looking upon them in the way they are described in this text, and simply stop reflecting about these things.

Note: while the author of this post is sure these are the most successful strategies for partner finding in modern society, he opposes the methods, as well as the society form which favors such a behavior.

Machiavelli's Date guide....:laugh4:


I like it :2thumbsup:

ICantSpellDawg
11-30-2007, 17:02
Sometimes when I feel like killing an ex, I do a little trick to calm myself down. I'll go over to the person's house and ring the doorbell. When the person comes to the door, I'm gone, but you know what I've left on the porch? A jack-o'-lantern with a knife in the side of its head with a note that says "You." After that, I usually feel a lot better, and no harm done.