View Full Version : Turcopole bug...
At least I expect it to be.
Turcopoles are supposed to be Catholic only and recruited in Edessa, Tripoli, Antioch and Syria in the Inns there.
Now neither I nor the person who made me aware of this have seen them there. I have in fact only seen them in my Inn in Normandy. That is strange as they are supposed to be exclusive to those other provinces. They could ofcourse have been recruited by the AI and disbanded right away, but no Catholic faction has been holding any of the provinces at all.
Them being mercs is not a satisfying explaination, as why would there at all be any specific provinces then?
I also stumbled over them in ShadeHonestus' Comparison Tool. It showed them to be Egyptians. I have yet to find any satisfying info on them in the prod file.
So could anyone answer this perhaps?
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GAH!
Vanya created turcopoles from ANY province as the Turks. Vanya tinks youz need a bowyer and horse breeder to make 'em.
GAH!
Now, get your mind out of the gutter... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/confused.gif
GAH!
No those are the TurcoMAN...
They are basically the same, but still the Turcopoles are specific to the Catholics.
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[This message has been edited by Kraxis (edited 09-16-2002).]
Hmm... nobody interested in this?
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Man... Pole... its just semantics... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif
GAH!
Vanya has not noticed this. Maybe its because Vanya does not care to crusade for the holey land so far. Vanya crusades against His neigbors. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Vanya sez... run Magy unit compare tool and see what it sez about Turcopoles. The insight you gain might answer the question...
GAH!
http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/eek.gif (Did I just plug somebody else's tool?!?) http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/eek.gif
From looking at the unit_prod file Turcopoles are not specific to catholics or any religion or faction for that matter.
They are available to build for any faction who controls the provinces you mentioned....much like the Gallowglasses and Highland Clansmen are for Ireland and Scotland respectively.
....plus they are available as mercenaries to anybody. That's why you were offered them in Normandy.
TurcomanHorse and Foot are specific to the Turks and the Muslim religion and as also available as mercenaries to anybody.
So i don't think this is a bug. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
[This message has been edited by +DOC+ (edited 09-17-2002).]
+DOC+ it all depends on where you look at it, it could be you are right, but then the techtree is wrong as it clearly states the Turcopoles are Catholics only (they are red), and they are specific to the provinces I mentioned.
It does seem a bit odd that some mercs can be specific to some provinces, but that is how the techtree presents them.
They are btw quite good, with a good attack and top speed so they are perfect for chases where the enemy has routed.
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BTW, Danish Crusades are true to history.
You may not care about war, but war cares about you!
[This message has been edited by Kraxis (edited 09-17-2002).]
THe tech tree is wrong then... the unit_prod file doesn't lie. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Being available as a merc doesn't mean it's only available as a merc in its specific provinces. The specific provinces only refer to where they can be built by the faction that owns them. Turcopoles are labelled as NO_FACTION like the Clansman and therefore i take this to mean they can only be built (not hired) in these provinces. Had they been labelled ALL_FACTIONS then i would take this to mean they can be built in any of the provinces owned by the faction(s) that control the specified ones.
[This message has been edited by +DOC+ (edited 09-17-2002).]
+DOC+ the Turcopoles can't be trained, they only come from the Inn.
So that is why I wondered a bit. How come they are specific to an area while at the same time mercs?
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BTW, Danish Crusades are true to history.
You may not care about war, but war cares about you!
lol
good question!
i dunno?!
lol
Maybe I should add it to the thread where we can add bugs and stuff... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif it is a bit silly...
It actually bugs me a little as they are he best horse archers available to the Catholics.
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BTW, Danish Crusades are true to history.
You may not care about war, but war cares about you!
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