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ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
12-03-2007, 01:24
Hey All,

Tell me your thoughts of Cyber Charter Schools here in the US. I'll explain what they are if you not familiar with them (I am in 10th grade in one and love it). It bascially is where you go to school Online. The School pays for your laptop/desktop, books,etc..., No Charge to you. You do it from home, and they offer Field Trips, and other good stuff.


Crizitcim for them ranges from Grades (which we been meeting the AYP), Money (we use Public School's money, but we save taxpayers 164 Million a year in 2005-2006), and how much it should cost to edcuate a kid.


here the Cyber School I go to, and there is some articles about them on their site.

http://www.pacyber.org/news/


Over 16,000+ students in cyber schools in my state.


This could be a good Gahzette debate I think also.

Vladimir
12-03-2007, 18:16
An interesting twist on a controversial topic.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
12-03-2007, 20:56
An interesting twist on a controversial topic.


Gets More Interesting as time goes by. I just hope We don't get screwed.

ICantSpellDawg
12-03-2007, 21:25
I love the Idea. It's possible to stop teachers from being pseudo parents and eliminate class distractions

Only for the self driven so far
I've learned more at home anyway.

While this is a great idea, University was good experience and doesn't need a substitute (in most cases)

AntiochusIII
12-04-2007, 05:30
It sounds kinda lonely though.

I mean, academically there's really no real disadvantages -- most high school teachers don't exactly offer sage comments in the latest advances of molecular biology, long and interesting political discussions, or actual useful comments on your latest creative writing production. Some do, but in a general viewpoint you've got to be the lucky one. However, schools are much more than that. It's the place where you meet other kids your age, socialize, deal with the near-infinite number of problems that come with socializing, gets bullied and learn to bully (:laugh4:), deal with stupid rules, stupid administrations, and stupid people in power (which is a very necessary skill :sweatdrop:), and pretty much experience the world outside of the hearth and home...and keyboard, and TV, and stuff.

All this would be a rather moot point of course if you don't need school to meet new people -- but I think from the macro viewpoint the USA is not a society where everyone goes out to meet everyone at the park, but rather a keep-your-business-to-yourself kind of place. I mean, just how many of my fellow Americans (not technically) hang out with your next door neighbor's hot wife every Sunday afternoon?

I know what it means to spend time stuck at home doing nothing for months on end, knowing pretty much no one except my immediate family and some weirdos on the 'net :beam:; and while I can tell you that I was -- am -- content with my lot in life, it's not exactly one that will garner you experience points to make an epic character Fighter/Druid 14/13 out of.

ICantSpellDawg
12-04-2007, 14:13
It sounds kinda lonely though.

I mean, academically there's really no real disadvantages -- most high school teachers don't exactly offer sage comments in the latest advances of molecular biology, long and interesting political discussions, or actual useful comments on your latest creative writing production. Some do, but in a general viewpoint you've got to be the lucky one. However, schools are much more than that. It's the place where you meet other kids your age, socialize, deal with the near-infinite number of problems that come with socializing, gets bullied and learn to bully (:laugh4:), deal with stupid rules, stupid administrations, and stupid people in power (which is a very necessary skill :sweatdrop:), and pretty much experience the world outside of the hearth and home...and keyboard, and TV, and stuff.

All this would be a rather moot point of course if you don't need school to meet new people -- but I think from the macro viewpoint the USA is not a society where everyone goes out to meet everyone at the park, but rather a keep-your-business-to-yourself kind of place. I mean, just how many of my fellow Americans (not technically) hang out with your next door neighbor's hot wife every Sunday afternoon?

I know what it means to spend time stuck at home doing nothing for months on end, knowing pretty much no one except my immediate family and some weirdos on the 'net :beam:; and while I can tell you that I was -- am -- content with my lot in life, it's not exactly one that will garner you experience points to make an epic character Fighter/Druid 14/13 out of.


I used to use moot point that way (insignificant, non-issue). I still think I'm right in it's use BUT it has been brought to my attention that it just means "a. debatable, b. doubtful"

Does anyone know how to use moot point correctly in a sentence?

Banquo's Ghost
12-04-2007, 17:01
I used to use moot point that way (insignificant, non-issue). I still think I'm right in it's use BUT it has been brought to my attention that it just means "a. debatable, b. doubtful"

Does anyone know how to use moot point correctly in a sentence?


Moot does mean debatable (open or subject to debate). It can also mean to suggest for debate, or argue a hypothetical case. (From its old English roots, it can also mean a meeting - such as Tolkien's Entmoot).

You would normally use it as an adjective:

Your argument is moot. That point is moot - etc., would be much the same as:

Your argument is debatable. That point is debatable. And so forth.

I suspect it gained the incorrect usage of insignificane because the word is more often used to avoid debate by parking the opinion whilst moving on to a point closer to the proposer's views.

AggonyDuck
12-04-2007, 22:47
The problem with Cyber Schools in my opinion lies in the fact, that although they can propably give you all the knowledge you might need, they do not help the student to develop as a social being. If the student is otherwise an active person, it might not be an issue, because hobbies can easily give avenues for social interaction, but if the student is passive, then there is a great risk of isolation. If the student becomes mostly isolated and does not get the social interaction that he needs, then most likely the development of his personality will stagnate and his social know-how will be inadequate. In that case all the knowledge you might get from a Cyber School is worthless, because you might lack the social skills to get a chance to use it.

AntiochusIII
12-04-2007, 22:55
I used to use moot point that way (insignificant, non-issue). I still think I'm right in it's use BUT it has been brought to my attention that it just means "a. debatable, b. doubtful"Interesting. However, wouldn't it be debatable (moot ~;) ) as to whether my usage is "incorrect" or whether due to popular "misconception" of the original meaning, the phrase has acquired a new legitimate meaning?

I mean, English is not exactly a static language after all...

Although this is not our topic here, so let's get back on topic :)

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
12-05-2007, 04:51
The problem with Cyber Schools in my opinion lies in the fact, that although they can propably give you all the knowledge you might need, they do not help the student to develop as a social being. If the student is otherwise an active person, it might not be an issue, because hobbies can easily give avenues for social interaction, but if the student is passive, then there is a great risk of isolation. If the student becomes mostly isolated and does not get the social interaction that he needs, then most likely the development of his personality will stagnate and his social know-how will be inadequate. In that case all the knowledge you might get from a Cyber School is worthless, because you might lack the social skills to get a chance to use it.


I speak to many kids who are students of my Cyber School. One girl told me on AIM a week ago:



"Alot of People think I'm not a sociable person since I go to Cyber, but they really cyber I have alot of friends inside and outside of Cyber and I am very sociable"

I been in a Cyber School for Two Years Ducky, and I left because I did not get any good friends in normal school, public or catholic. Here, even though they know also that I have a speech ploblem (and now all you guys know:yes:), they treat me with respect, not like kids I had in the past. There proably are kids that are isolated, but you have those kids in normal schools also.

HoreTore
12-05-2007, 10:06
That school stil haven't learned you not to use capital letters in the middle of a sentence(krauts excluded), so.... :laugh4:

Husar
12-05-2007, 14:34
I speak to many kids who are students of my Cyber School. One girl told me on AIM a week ago:
You can also find alcoholics who tell you that they're fine. ~;)
Then again, I believe that high school ruined my social skills, I was quite a normal kid before, played with my friends outside etc. until I never got any good friends in high school, somehow people didn't like me or we didn't share interests so I ended up pretty badly, add to that that we moved so my old friends were gone and the new village seemed to hate me as well, long story short a normal school doesn't necessarily improve social skills either, good friends do that. :sweatdrop:
Except if you go and say all the others had no social skills and I do but being the clear minority I wouldn't say that qualifies as true in our society. :sweatdrop:


That school stil haven't learned you not to use capital letters in the middle of a sentence(krauts excluded), so.... :laugh4:
"That school still hasn't taught you" if I'm not mistaken (now why did I think teached at first? :wall: ). Also "I" is always capital AFAIK, even in the middle of a sentence.

Also check this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu-hW75wF4E)

Vladimir
12-05-2007, 17:09
Another advantage is that school shootings involve a lot less blood. :sweatdrop:

The social argument is MOOT. What's stopping you from socializing when you're not on the net?

JimBob
12-06-2007, 00:11
The social argument is MOOT. What's stopping you from socializing when you're not on the net?

The way society here is set up. I don't know about all of the US, but where I've been and lived the norm seems to be that people are less openly social in public. If you don't know someone you don't talk to them, etc, etc. That kind of thing is easy to change, but for now remains a barrier.

HoreTore
12-06-2007, 11:06
"That school still hasn't taught you" if I'm not mistaken (now why did I think teached at first? :wall: ). Also "I" is always capital AFAIK, even in the middle of a sentence.

Hey, I'm norwegian, I'm not supposed to know barbarian languages...

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
12-07-2007, 15:05
They just pass the bill cutting Cyber Schools' Funding :shame: :shame:

I am sadded :shame:


Edit: The Link:
http://www.thebulletin.us/site/news.cfm?newsid=19089707&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=6

Caius
12-08-2007, 01:34
I don't understand something. Does this kind of schools replace the old and boring ones?