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solomani
09-17-2002, 22:20
Breaking alliances with your Christian nation in preference to breaking an alliance with a Muslim nation?

Isnt this a little a-historical?

BlackWatch McKenna
09-17-2002, 22:35
I think it also factors in "how powerful" each leader is.

Maybe if the Muslim Man is ***** powerful and the Christian Man is a peace loving pacifist of * power, then maybe the ***** leader would win the Choice of Alliance?

Paladin
09-17-2002, 22:38
After reading through this thread, I just wish I had the last 30 seconds of my life back.

Ckrisz
09-17-2002, 22:39
Check out the Serbian contribution to the Ottoman Turks at the Battle of Nicopolis. Those weren't Serbian Muslims helping to scythe down the Crusaders.

As for a major nation ... I don't think any major medieval nations had overt alliances with Muslim nations. But many medieval rulers did have friendships and informal contacts with Muslim princes --- for instance Emperor Frederick II and Sultan Malek Kemal of Egypt, who settled the Sixth Crusade by treaty.

solomani
09-18-2002, 09:55
Yes, I know how it works, but I dont believe it is historical, especially during the early period.

For instance, as Spain I had an alliance with every Christian nation in the game. I never accepted alliances with any Muslim nation (I try to roleplay a bit). One game I attacked the Almos another they attacked me, in both games every Christian nation broke their alliance with me instead of the almos. Seems a-historical.

No biggy. Would be a nice fix to add in an extra check or command not allowing Christian nations to ally with Muslim nations until a particular nation was vastly more powerful then the combined might of Christiandom (to reflect self-preservation on the part of the Christian world).

andrewt
09-18-2002, 11:09
AI are less inclined to ally with players especially once the player is powerful already.

Mount Suribachi
09-18-2002, 12:07
The AI does a good job of realpolitik IMHO. If it was changed so the AI always sided with its fellow religion factions at its own expense, people would complain about that too...

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MajorPain
09-18-2002, 13:33
If a war break out, the other A.I. will side with the faction that win the first battle.