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The Council of Britain and Ireland is held in an undisclosed location in neutral France. Diplomats scurry to and fro within its hallowed halls. In the center is a large Council Chamber, where representatives of the 5 powers of Britain and Ireland can negotiate in public. In theory this is where representatives from the countries can publically debate issues important to the region, and work out alliances or issue proclamations. In reality they mostly bicker iwth eachother, and gloat over victories. Occassionally a Monarch actually graces the floor of the Council Chamber, to issue some proclamation, or even to harrass a foe.
IC thread for the Britannia hotseat game. Since posts by non-players of the game could cause problems within the hotseat game, I ask that only players post in here. If you would like to comment on in-game events IC, an ORG member has started a sort of IC discussion thread here. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1774200#post1774200
RoadKill
12-07-2007, 22:35
Welsh Diplomat:
King of England,
We have laid seige to one of your bordering settlements. Here are your choices. Give us Cardiff south to us or we will assualt the walls immidiatly, and slaughter your men without mercy, we will exterminate every single one of them. You choice have been given King of England, obey it or perish.
The English representative jumps to his feet, face red. "How dare you! The Kingdom of England does not accept ultimatums from powers a tenth its size! Why, we'll...what?". He's interrupted by a messenger from England who immediately hands him a letter. The representative reads it, scowling but seeming to calm down. He takes a deep breath, "Well, it would appear that his Majesty wishes to show that he prefers peace with all of his neighbors. A diplomat will be sent as soon as the snows melt, and if you accept, he will sign a ceasefire and trade agreement in exchange for the ethnically Welsh town of Cardiff. However, he would prevail upon you to pursue your objectives more diplomatically in the future".
Privateerkev
12-07-2007, 23:39
The Scottish representative stands up.
First off, on behalf of my Lord, King Alexander of Scotland, I wish to thank you all for this chance to speak before this august body.
My King wishes to publicly affirm his feelings of loyalty and friendship towards his father-in-law, King Henry of England.
My King wishes to affirm his feelings of brotherhood towards his fellow Celtic people.
But my King wishes that the Celtic peoples of this land attempt to work things out peacefully.
Finally, my King wishes to state his intention to bring all "rebel" settlements that are peopled by a predominately Scottish population, under his rule as soon as is logistically feasible. He assumes no one will object to this. A large host of Scottish soldiers advances on the 2 western rebel settlements as we speak.
In a related manner, my King hopes him and the Norse can come to some sort of agreement regarding Scottish settlements under Norwegian control.
RoadKill
12-08-2007, 06:26
The English representative jumps to his feet, face red. "How dare you! The Kingdom of England does not accept ultimatums from powers a tenth its size! Why, we'll...what?". He's interrupted by a messenger from England who immediately hands him a letter. The representative reads it, scowling but seeming to calm down. He takes a deep breath, "Well, it would appear that his Majesty wishes to show that he prefers peace with all of his neighbors. A diplomat will be sent as soon as the snows melt, and if you accept, he will sign a ceasefire and trade agreement in exchange for the ethnically Welsh town of Cardiff. However, he would prevail upon you to pursue your objectives more diplomatically in the future".
King of Wales has great pride on such great chivalry. We are happy we have reached an agreement. My forces will immidatly withdraw once Cardiff is given to us. Once again we are pleased by your decision. I will gladly accept the ceasefire and trade aggrement
The Welsh diplomat stands and bows.
Privateerkev
12-08-2007, 19:57
The Scottish representative stands up
My good gentlemen,
My Lord, King Alexander wishes to state before this august body his territorial claims.
The rebel settlements to the west of Scotland, Inverlochly and Dunstaffnage, and the islands of Skye and Islay, are to be brought into the Scottish Kingdom as soon as it is feasible.
The Isle of Skye has a population that is 85% Scottish.
Dunstaffnage has a population that is 80% Scottish.
Inverlochly has a population that is 70% Scottish.
The Isle of Islay has a population that is 40% Scottish, 30% Irish, and 30% Norwegian. Since the Scottish make up the largest percentage of the population, it is only proper that they be ruled by Scotland.
These are the only territorial claims that Scotland is making at this time. While the Norwegian territories of Mull, Arran, and Wick have sizable Scottish minorities, King Alexander does recognize that they have Norwegian majorities.
As we speak, mighty Scottish armies are marching on Dunstaffnage and Inverlochly. And ships are sailing to meet with these armies and take them to the Isles of Skye and Islay when their campaigns in West Scotland are finished.
We trust that these claims will be respected and not interfered with. King Alexander appreciates your understanding on this matter.
The English representative stands
"It has come to our attention that a Welsh fort lies within English borders, not far from the English city their king has sieged. If we are to sign a peace deal and give you Cardiff, this fort will have to be abandoned. We cannot suffer it to remain on English soil. I would also like to announce that we hope that the Norwegian Prince and Scotland can work out the division of Northern settlements and islands between them peacefully."
He sits back down
The Norwegian representative stands up.
I do not understand a word the Scottish representative was talking about. The only numbers we count are the heads of enemies we cut off. Our diplomats are wearing helmet and shield, our diplomatic table is the battlefield, our pen is our sword and axe, and we write with the blooOOOOd of our enemies. *raising his voice*
KING HAAKON IS BACK. He is back to claim all the lands that rightfully belongs to him. Anyone who dares to oppose him will_pay_the_price.
The Norwegian representative walks out.
phonicsmonkey
12-09-2007, 14:13
The Irish representative stands up with a wry grin...
I see our friends from the North are acting with their customary restraint and good manners.
Let us hope their armour and stone walls are as dense as their skulls.
It is said that he claims our northern Irish cities were founded by the Norse, and uses this to mount a territorial claim - clearly he has a keener sense of humour than of history.
We men of Brega don't take kindly to childish threats - this Haakon is at best an unwelcome visitor to these islands and any aggression against our fair lands will be met with force.
Do not underestimate the men of Ireland, northern King
Ozzman1O1
12-09-2007, 15:11
Moderator edit: I understand this post was not part of the game, so it is put in spoiler tags and should be disregarded.
[I]norwegian representitive returns
Ahhhh.But it is you Irish hounds that seek nothing but carnage....your claims of that island that can still be described as hibernia when your women and daughters hide behind walls as thick as your bones will be once they are grinded into dust!!!We already have an army under a massive fleat that your small rowboats cant prevent postitiond on your south west coast,pay 50000 gold or a norwegian battle axe on your head will be the last thing you see....It was your own falt you didint even detect us saling by your borders....
The English representative stands to address the Council.
The English King would like it known that in light of the Norwegians' clear aggressiveness and apparrent unwillingness to negotiate peacefully, I consider any and all claims by them on the Irish cities currently under English control to be null and void. Furthermore, I would suggest to King Haakon that perhaps he take to diplomacy with a lighter touch, lest he make an enemy of all the countries of the Isles.
King Henry would also like it known that although at present he does not intend to get involved in any wars between foreign countries, but will not suffer any such country to intrude upon his own lands.
OOC: I checked, Ozzman didn't have permission to speak for Cheetah. Please disregard Ozzman's post. Repeat, Norway has only threatened Scotland directly. :clown: Everything has been taken care of.
Privateerkev
12-09-2007, 23:42
King Alexander walks into the hall. The young 17-year-old man nonetheless has a regal bearing. As his armor clanks and Scottish tabard flows, he comes to the middle of the room with a purpose.
Representatives of the other 4 Kingdoms in Brittania,
I have just received a letter from King Haakon declaring war on me. He claims I insulted him. Well, he insults us all by his dirty peoples' very presence on our clean lands.
All I have done is assert my right to rule over settlements with a Scottish majority population. But he said he had some sort of ancient claims to these lands just like he has claimed the same with Irish lands.
In a booming voice, King Alexander shouts,
Since when does a history of raping, murdering, pillaging, and plundering lie as a basis for territorial claims!!!!
Calming down, Alexander continues,
I have been more than patient with this man. His people sail from across the sea, settle in our lands, and then has the gall to tell me that he should rule over my people!?!
If I sailed a massive army over to Norway and camped outside of Oslo, he would be equally insulted. But he expects us to just take it!
I was nice enough to let him sit on ancient Scottish land that had a majority Norwegian population. Nevermind that those territories only have a majority Norwegian population because the vikings have been raping Scottish women!
If squatting on our lands is not enough for him, then I say he is not entitled to any of our land!
Make no mistake, these pirates are a threat to all of us. He has massive armies with almost no economy to support them. He will have to raid and plunder us just to pay his greedy soldiers.
King Henry of England will have to watch his coasts for raiding parties now that the Norwegians have proven to be hungry for florins. The Welsh will have to watch over their small Kingdom because the Norse might see it as a tempting and easy target. And the Irish have already discovered that the Norse desire lands in Ireland.
Since the threat to all of you has been made clear, I ask for your help in evicting these people from our land. Since the Scottish are closer to the bulk of Norway's territories, we will take the brunt of the fighting but we would welcome any assistance you could offer. All we would ask is for the majority of the spoils since most Norwegian territories have massive Scottish minorities.
The Isles of Islay and Man are negotiable since they do not have massive Scottish minorities. I believe the Isle of Man should go to the first person who gets there, unless a claim can be made. Otherwise, if I get there first, I will gift it to the Kingdom that aids me the most in this struggle. The Isle of Islay does have a large Scottish population but it also has a large Irish population. I would give up my claim to Islay and gift it to the Irish in exchange for their help in combating a foe that desires both of our lands.
If you can not give aid to me, then I ask that you not give aid and comfort to the enemy. Anyone who signs a trade deal or an alliance with the Norse will be seen as hostile to Scotland. We will not forget someone who aids rapists of Scottish women for a very long time.
I believe it is time for us to make the 5 Kingdoms of Brittania into 4. Four is much more stable. There is obviously not enough room for 5 so one needs to go. Since the Norse are little more than hostile and antagonistic pirates, we can do without their presence upon our lands.
May God help us wipe these thieves and murderers off of Brittania.
Thank you
King Alexander goes and sits in the Scottish section of the Council
RoadKill
12-10-2007, 22:24
A Welsh noble part of the welsh council enters the diplomatic chambers, with an extremly angered face.
Dear England,
We are angered, and we mean we are extremly angery. King Lewllyn is happy you have aggreed to the previous terms, but your following actions worry us. We are not fools dear england, we see your massive amounts of forces reaching our borders. We welsh take sever offense to this. Either your pull those forces away now or this war will reach a serious climax. It is obvious after giving us Cardiff you are prepared to retreive it back from us. We understand that you too worry about us leaving your borders un defended is plain stupidity. Which means you also do not trust us. Trust is necessary in an agreement, and we think we are missing this, even if trust means stupidity. So now heres your choice english. Releave our borders of such danger or get ready for total war.
Privateerkev
12-10-2007, 22:33
King Alexander, still waiting for some sort of official reply from the Norse, speaks up when he hears the Welsh representative.
Are the Welsh even capable of diplomacy? What King Henry has asked is entirely reasonable. Having your troops in a fort on his land causes devastation due to the "procurement" that would happen from the fort's garrison.
And it seems he would have gladly given up Cardiff but the Welsh were so impatient that they besieged it with King Henry's forces still inside. If what the Welsh desire, is peace and an independent and unified Wales, then it seems they are about to get it. Without bloodshed I might add.
But how can the Welsh expect King Henry to remain so reasonable and patient if they keep hurling insults in his general direction? You claim that there needs to be trust but your actions give others little reason to trust you.
Perhaps if you weren't so rash...
The English representative stands up, looking oddly happy, as if pleased with what he would finally be allowed to say:
Sir, I am rather surprised you have the gall to say such a thing. It was you you marched your soldiers into my territory. It was you who threatened to slaughter innocent peasants unless your demands were met. England has only behaved as reasonably as can be expected. We not only have a diplomat under way to your cities, but the King's very own youngest daughter en route.
We send men to guard our border because you seem to us unstable and violent. They have not penetrated your boundaries, as your soldiers have ours. We desire peace and are only too happy to strike a deal to preserve the people of the town you so rudely threaten. We will even offer guarantees or a treaty of nonaggression. However, we will not draw back defensive forces. If you are too unreasonable to allow this, then let the council be aware that it was Welsh aggression that started this war, not English.
Privateerkev
12-10-2007, 22:46
King Alexander speaks,
It is duly noted by the Scottish Kingdom that the Welsh have been unduly aggressive towards the English.
We urge our fellow Celtic brethren to think carefully before starting a costly and bloody war.
phonicsmonkey
12-10-2007, 23:16
The Irish representative stands rather unsteadily with a flamboyant bow to the Welsh. He is red of cheek and looks to have lunched well....
Sirs, The Irish would also counsel caution in this matter.
Mighty are the armies of the Cymryr and deep run their grievances with the Kings of England, whether Norman or Saxon, but in the words of the Welsh bard Taliesin, Swift the remorse of defending too long.
The English King has shown himself willing to negotiate - why risk all-out war?
Troubling as it must be to have English troops stationed near the borders, does not the bard also warn,
The men of the South will defend their taxes,
With sharp-ground blades utterly they will kill.
There will be no advantage to the physician from what they do.
There can be no advantage to the Britons from internicine war and bloodshed, which will serve only to encourage those who watch our lands with covetous eyes from their longboats...
With a final stern and portentous look at the Welsh diplomat, he sits down heavily and drains his tankerd..
RoadKill
12-11-2007, 00:15
The welsh diplomat exhales quickly and speaks
King Lewllyn is a noble and chivalrious man, he does not seek war. Do you think he is an idiot, we are mearly one tenth of the British forces. We couldn't have possible required Cardiff through force, and if we have done that we would have been crushed in the matter of years. They only way was to threat. We besiged because it was the only way our people could obtain our border. We did not besiege because we seek war.
Even though that is our intention, I think the English seek other causes. We were suprised the English king even accpeted these horrindus terms. But we accepted with great happiness and gratituge that they have agreed. But only momentarily accepting those terms did he bring thousands of men to the border. Thousands of men he does not need to defend against us, need us remind you, only merly one-tenth of his force. We were angered by that fact, it seemed to us that his intentions were not to defend, but to attack. Something we will not stand by to watch.
The English representative stands again.
I think you exagerate, sir. Of the defensive armies approaching the border, only one comes close to matching the one you sent across ours. I doubt they would be able to hold back all of your military might. They will just man the forts on what will be our new border. This is non-negotiable. England would prefer not to go to war, but we will not let our National dignity be embarrassed by someone who resorts to blackmail and the threatened slaughter of innocents to achieve his goals. After your men go back behind the border to your own lands, we can negotiate about the size of defensive armies on our border.
RoadKill
12-12-2007, 00:02
The Welsh diplomat glares into the eyes of the english diplomat and speaks with a low deadly tone
[I]Exterminate your population...You must be a fool. Half that population of yours in the borders are brave Welsh men that are forced to be labured under your rule. Why would a chivalrious king such as King Lewllyn threaten to kill his own people.These settlements belong to Wales, and we tolerate nothing else!!! You think us Welsh will stand here as you talk to us like scum! This deal is over! We want nothing to deal with you! We may be weak but the bravery of our men shall make forth of it. We will free these Welsh from your grasp, even if it will costs hundreds of lives. And it is the will that will come forth! We have chosen our path. [I]
The English representative meets his glare with one of his own.
I believe it was you who said, and I quote, "Give us Cardiff south to us or we will assualt the walls immidiatly, and slaughter your men without mercy, we will exterminate every single one of them. You choice have been given King of England, obey it or perish ". I begin to wonder if you understand the meaning of the word peace, or negotiation. If you wish a war with England, you will have one. we will not be bullied by bandits and pirates.
RoadKill
12-12-2007, 00:49
The Welsh Diplomat quickly responds with an evil grin
Yes, we clearly know what we have said, and we said slaughter every one of them, referring to them, as in the english, as I have previously stated, Many Welsh men live in your settlement, and we will not shed blood from our own kind. Bandits and pirates you say...Then bandits and pirates we shall be. We will be sure to give your english troops a warm welcome.
The Welsh diplomat picks up his documents and leaves the room whistling down the hall
OOC: Dang, I love being the bad guy.
RoadKill
12-12-2007, 01:36
Before The welsh diplomat leaves the door he leaves a not on the table. It reads
We are not stupid England. We knew the moment you accepted our terms you are up to something. We see your troops arriving from sea, from dublin. The moment you aggreed to give us Cardiff was the moment you would have assualted us. And do not try to pretend it was us. You wanted a cease fire but yet you sent troops from behind me to assault me, that is the way a coward fights. Dear Kings of these Isles, do you really trust your English friend now, friends that have agreed to have non-violent terms but smack you on the back of your head when your're not looking. You will see kings of the Isles, if you do not fight back now, the English will demolish you, end your lives with trickery and cowardious.?
The English representative stands
Are you insane? You threaten us, and when we comply with your demands you accuse us of treachery and exterminate our people. Not a single English soldier has left Ireland. If you could stop making threats long enough to check, you might notice that all English ships between Ireland and and Britain are completely empty. Our western fleet is patroling the waters between the Isles to prevent treachery from greedy, murderous bandits such as yourselves.
I want the council to note that the Welsh have threatened and insulted England while she sought only peace, then accuse us of treachery after backing away from their own agreed upon terms, quite generous for them I might add, and slaughtering the innocent people of an English village! We will not stand for this. England officially declares war on Wales.
phonicsmonkey
12-12-2007, 04:12
As representative of Ireland I condemn any acts of violence against the civilian populations of any of our lands.
Are these reports of a slaughter true?
RoadKill
12-12-2007, 05:36
It seems that another more friednly Welsh diplomat has replaced the angered one that stormed out of the room
King Lewllyn is not a man of slaughter. He would even hesitate to kill his most hated enemies. He is a kind and gentle man. But also a man who has great virtue if doing anything to aid his people. to answer your question Irish noble, it was a threat. A threat a man like King Lewllyn could not accomplish. Many men of that settlement were of Welsh background, and we would never shed blood against our own kind. It was mearly a threat that has gone too far. But if the English decide that is there wish, then all we have to say, is bring your horses and men, but God will decide who the rightous king od Britain shall be.
The English representative stands
If King Lewllyn really did not follow through on his threat, and really seeks peace, then the deal before agreed on can still take place. Cardiff will be given to the Welsh, and the Welsh will abandon their fort on English soil and their siege of the English town. If, however, this is another ruse, then may God have mercy on King Lewllyn, because King Henry surely will not.
Privateerkev
12-12-2007, 06:45
King Alexander has just been sitting at the Scottish table with his fingers on his temple. It is clear that just witnessing the proceedings is giving him a headache.
Can someone tell me what the bloody hell is going on!?!
Who is warring with who? Who exterminated who's city? Who is sailing towards who?
Does anyone know? I just got a report from one of my diplomats that Ulster isn't even owned by anyone! Are the English even in Ireland? Is anyone anywhere? Are we anywhere at all? Are we... we!?!
Arrrrgggg!!!
This spat is driving me mad!
Do the Welsh even know what it is that they are actually saying!?!
Let me try to piece this out...
1.) King Henry offered Cardiff to the Welsh in exchange for peace.
2.) King Llewelyn besieged Cardiff instead and threatened Henry. He said he would exterminate Cardiff unless Henry gave him Cardiff.
3.) Henry re-agreed to give Cardiff if Llewelyn un-sieged Cardiff and let Henry's men out. Then Henry saw that the Welsh had taken a fort on English soil. Removal of Welsh troops from that fort became part of the deal.
4.) Llewelyn then says none of this is good enough. Now, English troops are not allowed to be on English soil.
5.) In the meantime, did the Welsh actually ever un-siege Cardiff? Did Henry ever get the chance to pull his men out of the city?
6.) Then there was talk that may be loosley interpretted as describing the extermination of Cardiff. Did that mean the Welsh took the city? When they did, did they exterminate it?
7.) Now there is talk that the Welsh did not exterminate the city.
8.) Now there is talk from the Welsh that the English are here, there, and everywhere.
9.) Now the English have declared war on Wales... BUT THEY WERE ALREADY AT WAR WITH WALES!!!! The Irish too if I might add.
So, looking at these 9 points, I can only conclude that NO ONE KNOWS JUST WHAT THE !@#$% IS GOING ON!!!!!!!!!
This is simple. Can someone just answer me some simple questions?
Is Cardiff English right now. yes or no?
Is Cardiff under siege right now. yes or no?
If Cardiff is Welsh, was it exterminated. yes or no?
Is King Alexander going bat!@#$ just listening to this diplo-mumbo-jumbo?
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes he !@#$ing is!
I can see why no other King bothers to !@#$ing come here!
Because they want to keep their God-!@#$ sanity!
Someone write down the answers to those !@#$ing questions and send them to me. I'm going back to Perth where the world makes a lick of sense. I've waited personally for King Haakon's response long enough. If he wants to get word to me, he can write me a God-!@#$ !@#$ing letter!
King Alexander walks out. His diplomats at the Scottish table just look wide-eyed in surprise.
phonicsmonkey
12-12-2007, 07:02
The Irish representative bursts into laughter and stands..
Well said sir!
I second that request for clarification - it would help greatly to know what the Devil is actually going on!
I would make one minor clarificatory point of my own however - Ulster is now, has forever been, and will forever be IRISH, regardless of whose flag flies over Derry.
And let no man doubt it.
King Henry walks into the room just after Alexander leaves, looking slightly amused. He walks up to the Scottish table and tells them to start writing down his words. Confused, they stare at eachother, only to furiously start scribbling when King Henry yells at them to pick up their pens
I can easily understand why my Scottish counterpart is confused. While I cannot say whether even the Welsh representatives could decipher their contradictory declarations, I might be able to clear a few things up.
The Welsh did not siege Cardiff, otherwise I could just disband my men and let them have it. Instead, they crossed the English border and sieged an English town.
The Welsh did not receive my offer of Cardiff until after the siege, I had discussed it with the other Celtic Kings, but King Llewelyn acted before I could send them the offer.
We accepted a deal with them to avoid extermination of my town, including a stipulation that the Welsh abandon a fort on my soil they had taken. The Welsh had an issue with my moving some men toward the border to act as guarantors and a defensive force on the border. Only one of these three groups was of decent size, and it was no larger than the Welsh army that had come into my lands to threaten me.
The Welsh did not like this, and decided to withdraw the deal. After insulting us, they responded in kind and declared they'd exterminated my town after apparently hearing some rumor of my Irish army going after them, despite the fact that any ships anywhere near the Welsh border contain no troops and my Irish army is still in Ireland.
Sometime later, the Welsh replaced their representative and backpedaled on their earlier words, that is where we are now. I am still waiting to see if a peace can be obtained otherwise, but I must hear before the next campaigning season, otherwise it would seem that the King of Wales is stalling. Cardiff is in English hands, but I have a diplomat going to meet with the Welsh and offer its exchange for a ceasefire.
As for Derry, Ulster rebelled from English control. Dublin and Trim are still firmly in English hands, and the western English controlled settlement has not rebelled.
Having had his say, King Henry walks back to the English section and sits down in the throne reserved for his visits.
Privateerkev
12-12-2007, 07:36
The Scottish diplomats furiously scribble down everything King Henry says. The fear of angering their lord's father-in-law only makes them write faster. Finally one gets the courage to stammer something out.
M-mmm-m-my King!
If I may be so bold, could you please tell me what settlement it was that the Welsh besieged? And is it still under siege? Or did the Welsh take it? If they took it, did the Welsh exterminate it?
King Alexander was under the impression this whole time that the Welsh had actually besieged Cardiff. He thought that while it was foolish of the Welsh to besiege something they were about to be given, he was not angry.
But the possible extermination of an English town changes things. I will get this news off to my...The diplomat is interrupted by King Alexander barging back into the Council
The Welsh did what!?!?!?!
Let this be clear right now, if the Welsh did indeed exterminate an English town, I will never deal with them again!
This is preposterous! And to think that I have been trying to moderate on the Welsh's behalf behind the scenes! Are these people even capable of rational thought!?!
Alexander calms down and realizes his father-in-law is sitting in the room. He quickly regains his composure.
King Henry! It is so good to see you again! Got enough of the sanity in London and decided to come get a dose of craziness here in the Council?
Alexander says the last with a slight smile.
I think I've been left out of the dark far too long with regards to these Welsh troubles. Please, tell this council all about what you have suffered at the hands of these mad-men. Leave nothing out. And I do indeed want to know if the Welsh exterminated Englishmen. If it is true, I will have to restrain my wife from picking up a sword and charging a whole regiment of Welsh herself.
She could probably beat them all too. Bunch of cowards besieging cities and murdering civilians...
Realizing he is standing in the middle of the Council and taking up it's valuable time with what is essentially a private conversation, Alexander politely excuses himself, yields the floor, and sits back at the Scottish table.
King Henry smiles as he sees his Son-in-Law
I wouldn't go so far as to consider London a bastion of Sanity, but compared to here it's charms seem much greater than I had before thought.
THere is not much to tell. The town in question is the Majority English town of Shrewsbury, around the middle of the English/Welsh border. The Welsh King would apparently exterminate the vast majority of the population that is English, so as to control it more easily. It was still under siege when last I checked. The fort in question is just to the west of the town, still in English lands.
I am not sure if the Welsh have exterminated it, as they had before claimed. If not, there is still hope for peace. I have men looking into that issue. I am sorry you have not been fully informed of the issues between the Welsh and me. As contradictory as their statements have been, this is perfectly understandable.
I do not doubt that my daughter could take on a Welsh regiment singlehandedly, but perhaps she had better stay in Perth.
King Henry smiles as he makes this last statement.
Privateerkev
12-12-2007, 08:54
King Alexander, obviously more calm now,
Thank you King Henry for making that more clear. This whole time I thought it was Cardiff they held. Since Cardiff is Welsh, and was going to be given up by you anyways, my response was more limited. But attacking an English city and threatening to kill all of the English in it changes things.
King Llewelyn better hope that he was only bluffing. If he goes through with his threat, that will change things. I have been exerting a lot of effort and influence to broker a deal that would satisfy all parties. But if he is going to be that unreasonable, then he is lucky he even has a Kingdom to rule.
I will make this very clear. If any man directs the extermination of my wife's people, I will no longer deal with them. And I will aid my father-in-law in any way he asks to protect his people.
War is one thing. Murdering civilians is something quite different. I do not want to see anyone cross that line.
RoadKill
12-12-2007, 22:56
The English representative stands
If King Lewllyn really did not follow through on his threat, and really seeks peace, then the deal before agreed on can still take place. Cardiff will be given to the Welsh, and the Welsh will abandon their fort on English soil and their siege of the English town. If, however, this is another ruse, then may God have mercy on King Lewllyn, because King Henry surely will not.
OOC: Noooooo.... Well this is unfortunate, I already carried out the attacks in my turn...
RoadKill
12-13-2007, 00:32
The fridendly tanned diplomat stands up grinning at the Scottish King, shaking his head:
And I thought, we were the ones being rational here. The deal was too late. The message was not delievered to King Lewllyn in time. Before the messanger could reach him he have already taken the english settlement, and also asked another of his general to attack Cardiff and claim it by force. This is not what we hoped for. But as we all understand it is too late for the attacks to be withdrawn. And before you highlanders treat us as if we were scum, we DID NOT EXTERMINATE THE ENGLISH SETTLEMENT!
The diplomat boomed his voice so that ever soul could hear.
We may have been from pirates and bandit background, but we welsh are more civilized then that. Every single men, women and child was left unharmed, untouched by our soldiers. And it is pointed out by King Lewllyn himself that he was not here to kill the civilians, the war is between the two kingdoms and the people left inbetween have NOTHING to do with this conflict. And if you bazzards have even listned to our previous messages, you would have understood by now.
Calming down the diplomat regained his grin.
As stated before, it is too late since the settlements already have been asssaulted. It seems that anger has gotten into the soul of both of us.
King Henry stands, glowering
But you did receive the message in time. In fact, you spent weeks threatening to exterminate the town while we attempted to appeal to your "reasonable" nature. Only long after many attempts to settle this peacefully failed due to Welsh intransigence did you take Shrewsbury.
By the second season from now an army shall march on Shrewsbury. Should their be any Welsh soldiers in it, they will be trapped and killed or forced to give up their arms. Should the town be found to be depopulated, we shall march on Wales. If the town has not been exterminated nor sacked, then possibly a ceasefire can be signed and negotiation over Cardiff take place. In that case, Wales will be charged for any missing income from the loss of Shrewsbury, and buildings they destroy, an for reparations for the families who have lost loved ones to Welsh bloodlust. If need be, nonessential buildings in Cardiff can be stripped for this purpose.
RoadKill
12-13-2007, 01:14
The diplomat this time did not bother standing and spoke:
There will be no problem in that. But we can not agree to everything. If buildings will be stripped from Cardiff, we will not rebuild the city for you. But if you agree to leave Cardiff unharmed, then we swear an oath to repair the walls we have inflicted damage towards. And if a trade rights agreement can also be arranged then we will also be happy to give you back the fort on the border. But if trade agreements and not arranged we will not give you the fort at the border. I hope these plans take place better then the last.
OOC: Yah, Zim sorry, for all the confusion. It is because I played the save before we we got all these agreements done, but i didn't upload it, but then after we had all this discussion I played the turn a second turn, but then with my stupidity. I uploaded the previous save instead and the right one so, I had to play it IC, haha sorry.
One of the English representatives stands
England does not like this shifting back and forth between different stances. At any rate, if Shrewsbury has not been exterminated, I think some arrangement can be made. An army will be moved to the city next campaigning season. It might take one more to reach it. If Shrewsbury is empty of Welsh soldiers by then, we will abandon Cardiff. A diplomat will also be sent to sign a ceasefire and sign trade rights.
OOC: Hey, rulers make decisions they come to regret all the time in real life. It's best just to roll with it and take it IC. A deal isn't out of question yet. :yes:
The English Representaive stands again to address the Council.
The English campaigning season is over. The English fort has been reoccupied. Shrewsbury has not been exterminated, but it has been sacked. King Henry himself has led an army of knights to siege Shrewsbury, as the Welsh have now sieged Cardiff. However, a diplomat has been sent to the Welsh to sign a ceasefire, trading Cardiff and Shrewsbury, offering a trade agreement, and demanding 1,000 floring to rebuild Shrewsbury and give money to the widows and orphans the Welsh have created. If the Welsh agree, their army in Shrewsbury is free to leave.
If not, King Henry assaults next season.
In lighter news, King Henry's daughter Beatrice has fallen in love with and married an honorable young nobleman named Arthur Hammer.
RoadKill
12-14-2007, 01:29
The Welsh diplomat scratches his chin, thinking of the right decision to make and speaks after a long pause
We welsh are not rich, 1000 florins can really stick a dagger in our nation.
The diplomat once again scratches his chin and thinks hard
But it is a dagger in our nation we are willing to take. King Lewllyn will be more then grateful to have a way to pay for those orphans and widows. But we have a different approach to this. We will completly repair all damage applied to Shrewsbury and we will also pay 400 florins. But if this is not agreeable then we shall pay the 1000 florins, but will leave Shrewsbury damaged. King Lewllyn an his army will leave Shrewsbury immidiatly. The seige of Cardiff will also be laid back.
The English representative sits stunned for a moment. He seems shocked that Wales actually took the peaceful option.
Either arrangement is fine. If you pay 1,000, this will end next turn (allowing you to defray some of the costs by getting Cardiff right away). Then we would repair the walls. Otherwise, it will take one more season (until my turn so I can accept). We leave the choice up to you.
RoadKill
12-14-2007, 01:47
The Welsh diplomat puts on a happy face and changed his mind
You are right, occupying Cardiff will provide us and return some of the 1000 given florins. We will take that option. Now lets hope in the future things will work out well.
Privateerkev
12-14-2007, 16:05
King Alexander, obviously pleased with the new events, speaks,
I'm glad the Welsh are willing to be reasonable. If events are concluded to King Henry's satisfaction, then I believe relations between the Scots and the Welsh will be possible. A diplomat is sailing over to Wales as we speak.
Privateerkev
12-16-2007, 05:15
King Alexander gets a report. Upon reading it, he addresses the council.
Gentlemen, it has been brought to my attention that the Norse are besieging the rebel settlement of Skye. Since no one could possibly dispute our claim on such a predominantly Scottish settlement, we can only reasonably conclude that the Norse are doing it as a favor to us. I believe they are attempting to deplete the garrison in order to make it easier for us to then take the settlement.
I appreciate such assistance from the Norse but I am now informing them that such assistance is no longer necessary. My army has taken Inverlochly and is now marching to the west coast where they will embark a ship that is already present for the short trip to Skye. My forces will take custody of Skye next season and we will no longer need the Norwegian's assistance in this matter.
We trust there will be no problem what-so-ever and the handover will be completed promptly and peacefully.
RoadKill
12-16-2007, 05:26
The Welsh diplomat lets out a quick giggle
I highly doubt the Norse are beseiging it and sacraficing their own lives to give you the settlement.
Privateerkev
12-16-2007, 05:30
King Alexander says
Seeing as the Norse are now a peaceful people, and would never dream of instigating conflict with another Kingdom in Brittania, I could only surmise that they were doing it to help us out.
I again wish to express my heartfelt thanks to King Haakon for his assistance in this matter. But we are now prepared to land a very large force upon the Isle of Skye and assault the settlement ourselves.
Seeing as Skye has a population that is 87% Scottish, we assume no one will contest this right and proper assertion of my authority to rule over my own people.
The norwegian representative returns.
The news reached us that King Alexander is waiting for our "official response". We have already said everything that was needed to say. We will deliver our further response on the battlefield.
Accordingly, the rebel settlement of Skye was taken and the rule of King Haakon was reestablished.
Both scottish fleets around Skye was deated.
Scottish general Alexander Cymon was defeated.
Inverness is beseiged and will be taken on the next campaign season.
The cowardly assasination of Prince Magnus by the Irish was taken as a declaration of war.
Accordingly, King O'Brain and his army attempting to embark on the irish fleet was intercepted, defeated and put to the sword. King O'Brian was executed.
The same fate awaits anyone who dares to oppose the mighty King Haakon.
We said it clearly that he is back to reclaim all his lands. Make no mistake, it means war: TOTAL WAR.
Further responses will be delivered on the battlefield. If you wish to argue with us, first you should learn our languge, which is the language of strenght and bravery.
The norwegian representative leaves the council.
*edit: irish fleet instead of welsh
Privateerkev
12-16-2007, 18:37
King Alexander sighs,
Then war it is then. But make no mistake, it is total war. War to the end.
Anyone who joins Scotland in wiping these pirates off of Brittania will be remembered as loyal allies.
Anyone who aids the pirates will be regarded as enemies.
It is time for the people of Brittania to speak with one voice and make clear that we do not bow to bullies. When we are done, Brittania will be 4 Kingdoms. And then there will be peace.
The Norse started this but by God we will end it!
King Henry walks into the Council Chamber, this time wearing a suit of armor rather than fine clothing.
King Haakon has forced my hand. Although I had wished for peace among the five Kingdoms of these Isles it appears that after the smoke clears there will be four at most. As invaders of these lands, and aggresors in the war with my daughter's Kingdom, it is the Norse who bear the moral burden of this war. England officially declares war on the Norse. We will stand with the Celtic Kingdoms against your piracy and aggression, and stay in the fight until one of us is destroyed.
The norwegian representative returns.
We did not expect anything else from the coward Scottish King then to hide behind his father-in-law.
But that is fine with us. We said total war. We do not back down. One more King to kill.
Privateerkev
12-19-2007, 13:30
King Alexander says,
Coward?!?
You attacked me remember?
Your just bitter because you couldn't get any of the other Kingdoms to support your piracy campaign.
Come into the Highlands my dear dear vikings. I assure you that you will get quite a reception...
The norvegian representative says
We are not surprised at all that the Scottish King lagging behind in the matters of own country seeing how he prefers parading around in the council in full armour instead of leading his troops on the battlefield. But ... we are already in the Highlands! Inverness is under siege and will be captured in the next campaign season. King Alexander would be better off returning to his country to gather a relief force, provided that he can find enough man in Scotland, rather than sharpening his oratory skills.
And no, we do not need help, only cowards hide behind their allies. We can handle all the women the Scottish King can throw at us.
Privateerkev
12-19-2007, 18:19
King Alexander sits looking bored,
I see the Norse need a geography lesson as well. The Highlands are clearly south of Inverness. Therefore, if you are at Inverness, then you can not be in the Highlands. If your King wishes, I can write that out so he can sit and study it. I understand he seems to be slow in realizing things.
Such as realizing that besieging Inverness was not some great coup. I left it undefended as a sign of peace towards the Norwegian people. A mistake I know, but one that, at the time, seemed reasonable.
During my next campaign season, if I can not relieve the siege, I will simply make the Castle useless to Norway. I will raze every building to the ground. And I will disband the unit of peasants in the castle. Since there will be no opposition, your troops will peacefully occupy the castle when you do not command them. (OOC: by forcing you to take an empty castle outside of your turn, you will not be given the option to sack.)
So, you will peacefully occupy an empty castle full of angry Scottish citizens. This will cost you far more money than it will gain you. I can then retake the castle at my leisure.
In the meantime, I will mobilize my reserves and march on your lands. All you've done is attack a lone general, 2 empty (or almost empty) ships, and besiege, what will be, a useless castle.
Seeing as Scotland is not really threatened, I will remain here in order to keep pointing out your faulty logic.
As for how the Norse "handle" Scottish women, the Scots remember all too well what has happened in previous viking raids. Unable to convince a woman to bed him, a viking then resorts to rape.
I am confident our women would be able to give you quite a fight. I'd let them at you if I wasn't afraid of what our women would do to the men after we capture them. While I will not weep for any dead Norse, castration is a nasty way to go...
RoadKill
12-19-2007, 22:05
The Welsh diplomat looks displeased
Destroy your own settlement? Because it is beseiged by an enemy. Your words do not reflect kindly on your reputation Scottish. That is a way a coward fights, and I am sure the Scottish is not a coward. Scottish men will still live in the captured settlement, and destroying everything they hold ever so dearly is NOT the right choice. So once again, I hope you reconsider these actions of brute force, as it will not help this conflict at all.
Privateerkev
12-19-2007, 22:09
King Alexander,
Their my buildings and if I wish to raze them, I will. My people would rather that the Norse capture a hollow husk, instead of a vibrant settlement. Plus, if they hadn't besieged it under a banner of peace, I wouldn't be forced into this situation.
Now, any more comments regarding MY Kingdom?!?
*a deep voice from a faraway sea*
It is not yours, its all MIIIINEEEEeee .....
ps. :laugh4: ~;)
phonicsmonkey
12-19-2007, 23:31
A new Irish delegation has arrived. They relieve the current team, who leave. The new representative stands.
I bring word from the new King of the Island of Ireland, Domnall of Brian.
"The Norse invasion of County Down will not be tolerated.
The cowardly murder of my father the late King Brian (God rest his soul), who was touring the County building watchtowers with a small group of close friends and retainers, was a crime of war which cannot go unpunished.
Ireland demands that the invading force disband immediately, and that the murderer Knud be handed over to Irish justice.
Should these demands not be met, the entirety of the Norse population in these Isles will be hunted down and slain, and their ships scuttled like those our brave Irish navy engaged off the coast of County Down last week.
So speaks King Domnall of Ireland."
Privateerkev
12-19-2007, 23:33
*a deep voice from a faraway sea*
It is not yours, its all MIIIINEEEEeee .....
King Alexander tilts his head, then speaks,
Did any of you hear that? It sounded like whimpering. Must have been coming from the Norwegian embassy...
OOC: :clown:
The norvegian representative says
Hah, the irish represenative talking about cowardly murder! Must be the joke of the week. Or perhaps the joke of the weak .... Muhahaha
Also, what small group of friends and retainers, he means that more than 400 men strong army that was marching to embark the irish fleet? Also, what crime? There was a face-to face battle as real men fight, unlike the cowardly assasination of Prince Magnus.
As we said we deliver our arguments on the battlefield as real men do. King Brian, despite the large numbers he had, was found short of good arguments. ... Muhahaha ... We do hope that King Domnall is better equipped as Prince Knud wants a worthy opponent!
Privateerkev
12-21-2007, 02:28
King Alexander strides into the Council.
Gentlemen,
and the Norse rapists...
I have some news on the war that the Norse started on my people.
The Scottish general that the Norse had earlier attacked, Alexander Cymon, had fled to Inverness right before the castle was sieged by a Norwegian general and 9 viking units.
Knowing that all was lost, Cymon volunteered for a suicide assignment. Riding out with just his bodyguards and some peasants, Cymon attacked the besieging army. While he did die, the Norse were so incensed, that they ran after the routed into the castle without thinking. So busy they were with pursuit and battle that they forgot to sack, and instead, peacefully occupied the castle. Also, before he left for his last ride, Cymon set fire to every single useful building in Inverness. The Norse now own a useless castle filled with angry Scotsmen. Congratulations...
Speaking of Inverness, the longboat that took the besieging Norse army there, was attacked and driven off.
In other naval news, a Norse longboat was found just north of Wales with two catapult units. Why the Norse had catapults so close to the Welsh capital is anyone's guess. But, the longboat is sunk and those catapults rest on the bottom of the sea.
I now ask for a moment of silence in the Council for brave Alexander Cymon...
Alexander bows his head.
RoadKill
12-21-2007, 03:22
The Welsh diplomat looks happy, and please so very much
Dear great king of Scotland. King Lewllyn is extremly greatful you have done something so wonderful for us, by destroying the 2 catupluts near the Welsh border. We take these acts, as acts of kindness and you have our gratitude. So we would like to announce something. These British land belong to the four great kingdoms. Wales, England, Ireland, and Scotland, but it seems we have a 5th pest that is going around killing all they see. As we ask the 4 great kingdoms to join hands and seize the conflicts between us for now, and rid these norse pirates off OUR land.
Speaking of that, we would like to add. We declare war on you, Norse. I know, you have not attacked my land, intruded me, or even bothered to offend me. And although we have our diffrences between the 4 great kings, I have great respect for them, and you have destroyed that respect. We officially declare war on you, UNTIL you seize these acts of anger.
So once again. Please listen 4 great kings of Britannia, unite and destroy these foul beasts.
Privateerkev
12-21-2007, 03:30
King Alexander turns to the Welsh representative.
I'm happy to hear you say that. As it so happens, the reason my ship was in the area, was to drop off a diplomat on to your lands. He is outside of your capital as we speak and he has paperwork for a map exchange and trade rights. All you have to do is sign.
The norvegian representative says
So it be. We will see whether four dogs can defeat a lion.
phonicsmonkey
12-21-2007, 04:06
A member of the Irish team whispers to his colleague
That's funny, I didn't know they had lions in Norway - I pity the poor viking who's stuck on a longboat with one
his colleague whispers back
Maybe he means a sea lion? I have heard Haakon sports a fine moustache
They collapse in fits of giggles
phonicsmonkey
01-08-2008, 09:30
The Irish representatives rise with a solemn air.
For the glory of Ireland and in memory of the late and much mourned King Brian (God rest his eternal soul), it has today been decided to rename all of the Irish territories in the beautiful Gaelic tongue.
The English representative stands to address the Council.
The English King, long may he reign, would like it known that English forces have secured the Isle of Mann, as it was in a position allowing it to threaten both English territory and that of the other Kings of the Isles. In order to assuage our neighbors that they have not exchanged one threatening nation in charge of a strategically important island for another, we are announcing that Castletown shall be converted to a city as soon as its new port is done, and dedicated to trade.
phonicsmonkey
01-09-2008, 06:25
Ireland applauds the English King's actions and welcomes the chance at closer trading links through the Isle of Man.
Norvegian representative stands up
Prince Knud defeated both armies that were sent after him and his brave men.
Irish general Lochlain Kane and his pityful army was defeated.
English general Mauritz Fitzgerald and his ragtag of troops that he dared to call and army was defeated and put to the sword to the last men. Fitzgerald was executed.
Clearly two snakes are not enough to defeat a lion. Clearly backstabbing is not the same as figthing in the open. Clearly neither the Irish nor the English know how to fight like real man do.
As a side note, the Scottish fleet blockading Kirkwall was defeated and sunk to the last ship.
phonicsmonkey
01-20-2008, 22:51
the Irish representative glares across the chamber at the Norseman
Sir, your Prince the murderer Knud may have defeated an eager gang of stone-hurlers the good King Domnall had no better use for, but he should be aware while he continues to skulk in the woods like a dog that his fate will find him there soon enough.
And as any civilized and Catholic man knows, there are no snakes in Ireland since St Padraigh did drive them out...where they went to nobody knows, but as I remember it they were last seen heading North...
A messenger comes in and hands a note to the English representative.
That "lion" must be of the sickly variety. English general Alan la Zouche has reduced his force from 255 to 81 men. Oddly, 3o or so of those appeared to have fallen at the hands of so-called "friendly" fire. Aside from poor health, the lion also apparently delights in biting his own tail.
While battle field reports are hard to verify, I have it on good account that Prince Knud ran within minutes of the battle's beginning. He was last seen riding northwards.
Well that lion defeated three stacks of enemies and not just defeated them but completely anihilated two of them, executed King Brian O'Connor and your general already forgot his name. Did all this without being able to refill or retrain his troops while you were sending fresh troops with each general. He is a true warrior, a worthy prince of Norway.
barcamartin
02-23-2008, 11:03
The Welsh representative stands, and addresses the Norse one.
I wish to announce that the royal navy of Wales has sunk a Norse ship in the straits between Ireland and Britain itself. The King sends word that he will not interfere in the ongoing conflict any further, unless the Norsemen force him to it.
He quietly falls back into his chair.
English Representative: I would like to thank the Welsh for keeping the waters we share for trade free of Norse piracy. Should you ever worry of foreign fleets to close to your lands, England will be happy to repay you by driving them off.
deguerra
02-27-2008, 11:38
Greetings to this most noble council,
As I am sure this council is aware, after the heroic death of Alexander, King of Scots, I, Patrick was named King over Alexanders sickly infant son, who has recently passed away.
Alas, the war with the viking barbarians had taken a turn for the worse, and it took a combination of arms of the British isles to turn the tide. We have succeeded in doing so, and Scotland owes every Lord in this council an enormous debt of gratitude. Challenged by a lion, we matched it bit by bit with the valour and courage of the Isles. May this period bond our Kingdoms forever closer together as one.
Patrick I, King of the Scots
It has been and continues to be an honor helping you avenge the death of King Alexander, my son-in-law. I think this might be a good time to announce that, with Scottish, Irish, and English coordination, a large Norse fleet has been intercepted and destroyed. Hopefully the Norse blight on these islands will soon be sent back to their homeland.
Good to have you back and playing, deguerra. :thumbsup:
_Tristan_
02-27-2008, 11:51
King Haakon :
A thousand curses be upon your isles...
You may drive us from those cursed lands but we will leave them in such a sorry state that the crows will fly on their back to avoid seeing the misery...
And be sure that us Norse will go down fighting... To the end...
deguerra
02-27-2008, 11:54
Go back to your thrice cursed homelands blighted by snow and ice, the kind of surroundings such scum as you deserve. And refrain from making your split tongue heard in this noble council, the Isles have no need for your lies.
_Tristan_
02-27-2008, 11:58
King Haakon :
I'll speak when and wherever I'll please and I'll take no lesson from a man wearing skirts, for God's sake...
A messenger comes in wearing livery of English colors.. He unfolds a scroll and begins to read.
Last week, after planning strategy with several of his generals in a base just south of Scotland, King Henry died in his sleep. He had recently taken ill since his trip to the north but none had known the extent of his illness. His son Edward has taken the throne and is the new King of England.
As his first act as King, King Edward is declaring an armistice with the Norse. For too long young Englishmen have died in this war, long after the death of the old Scottish Royal family which is kin to Henry. With the war well on its way to being won and easily doable by the might of the brave Celtic nations of Britannia alone, we expect this will not affect the fortunes of our neighbor to the north. England will spend the next year in mourning, and will only after consider the possibility of further offensive actions.
The messenger rolls up the scroll and departs.
After conversing with a few of his colleagues the English representative stands.
In keeping with his duties to his allies King Edward has taken Aberdeen for his allies the Scots, preventing them from needing to throw away the lives of their own men in the assault. A diplomat is negotiating it's handover right now. The rest of this campaign season will see no military action as the period of mourning for King Henry begins, and for the moment English armies are drawing back from the front. Further updates on England's actions concerning the war will arrive after the mourning period.
We would also like to say that disturbing reports have been coming in regarding the setting up of the so called "Baron's Alliance" on the Isle of Mann. Nothing is certain yet but we will keep our fellows in the Council abreast of events concerning that issue as well.
phonicsmonkey
03-16-2008, 08:06
The Irish representative stands
The English should think twice before betraying the alliance at this crucial moment in the Norse War!
Young King Edward should honour the agreement his father Henry struck with the Scottish and Irish, to fight to the bitter end against the Norse foe.
As for this rabble that call themselves the Baron's Alliance, they will receive no succour from Ireland so long as we are at peace with England and her King.
deguerra
03-17-2008, 08:43
Lords of Britain,
In the name of King Donald of the Scots I have announcements for this council:
Scotland recognises Englands right to direct its efforts wherever it deems them necessary and just. We have no quarrel with the English crown, and want none, but hope that in future, the new King of England may show himself to be more supportive of Scotland.
Out of the raving injustices the Norse have committed in our fair lands, something good has arisen: A rebellion of the freedom-loving highlanders formed near Iverness, and marched in protest on the Norse-held stronghold. Along the way, two Norse forces were sighted, and crushingly and utterly defeated, one of them being led by the "King" of the Norse, the other by his heir. The leader of this uprising, a minor young noble by the name of William Wallace was immediately adopted into the royal family.
We are close now, to driving the Norse scum from our fair isles, and this man has contributed greatly to it.
Long live Scotland, strong and free!
Prince Duncan
phonicsmonkey
03-25-2008, 23:06
The Irish representative stands, and raises a tankerd of dark ale as he pronounces:
Glory be to the Alliance of Britain! The Norse invaders have been driven from our fair isles never to return!
Hail Kings Brian and Domnall of Ireland, Kings Henry and Edward of England, King Llewellyn of Wales and most of all Kings Alexander, Patrick and Duncan of Scotland who joined together and fought off the vikings in the common cause of freedom from oppression and the threat of piracy!
May a new age of peace reign long over the lands of the peoples of Britannia and Ireland!
The English representative receives a message, appearing shocked by its contents. He rises timidly to address the Council.
Sirs, English intelligence reports have revealed shocking news. Welsh scouts caught riding across English borders have revealed what has been known to all in the isles all along. Wales is planning an attack on England. King Edward has no plans to repeat his father's mistake by letting Wales sack an English city again, only to make a peace deal preferable to the Welsh. England will not stand for such a thing, and so have trapped and destroyed a Welsh army.
An Irish seaborne army has also been sighted near Castletown, and Edward fears the Irish will seize an opportunity to take a city granted to England by a treaty signed by the Irish many years ago.
King Edward would like to ask his friend King Donald to forgive his trespass, as an English agent has crossed his land to capture a spy working for William Wallace, instigator of the so called "Baron's Revolt". He would note that we have made no moves against Scottish diplomats on English soil, and ask that his Excellence the Scottish King be patient with the English, as recent events and news have made them paranoid, especially that of Wallace and his allies marching near the English border.
phonicsmonkey
05-04-2008, 02:41
The Irish emissary had been absent from the chamber.
With a crash he bursts into the room, flinging open the heavy double doors and falling to his knees in front of the assembled nobles. Behind him in the corridor can be heard the heavy tramp of booted feet.
My lords! You have been betrayed!
King Domnall has shown himself to be a serpent and has sold out the Celtic nations to the vile English, attacking both Welsh and Scottish lands without warning!
It is said that he and Edward plan to divide the Isles between them to satisfy their lust for power!
A group of armoured men bearing the insignia of the harp enter the chamber and set about the former representative of Ireland, raining blows upon him and dragging his whimpering form away to God knows what sorry fate..
As they leave, a short, dark-haired man with thin lips and an evil leering expression enters and reads from a scroll.
Peoples of Wales and Scotland,
King Domnall of the Free Irish has taken your fate into his own hands.
For too long have the craven coward Kings of Wales and Scotland shivered and trembled under the whip-hand of the overseer, whether it be Norse or English.
For shame Scottish Kings! Have you no pride that you would allow the dirty Norse to defile your lands for decades? Only mustering to fight them off when spurred on by the proud Irish and mighty English?
You are not fit to govern the brave peoples of the Highlands, within whom the blood of true Celts runs fiery and strong. They will welcome proud King Domnall as their new leader, one whose blood is as theirs, and whose passion and Celtic spirit remains ever true.
For shame Welsh Kings! Cowering in your hill forts like bandits while the English encroached ever further on your lands, bringing sorrow and degradation on the noble men of Cymru.
Your people will rejoice to hear that your corrupt and decadent reign is being brought to an end by the true champion of the Celts, Domnall O'Brien.
O how the bards will sing of the brave new Irish future of these Isles!
barcamartin
05-04-2008, 08:33
' Despicable creature ! I spit at spine-less cowards such as yourself and most of all your King. '
Rushing out of the chamber, he shoves the short Irishman to the ground and spits him in the face.
OOC: Grima Wormtongue ? :P
deguerra
05-10-2008, 09:16
Noble Kings of Britain. Dog of Ireland.
As you are doubtlessly aware, Donald was deposed as King of the Scots last year and I have been tasked with handling matters of state as Regent.
Donald was weak, his authority with the nobles of Scotland small, and his mind wandering, so that there was no course of action open to the state other than to relieve him of his duties. Needless to say he did not take it with the grace that should be expected from a ruler, but Donald's fate need concern noone.
Since his deposal, the High Lords of Scotland have been deliberating on his successor. Due consideration was given to many factors, but at the end of the day, the governing body of this country does not bow down to the pressure of the masses, nor to the claws of our ernstwhile brothers.
It is with this in mind, that we do hereby offer the Crown of Scotland and the Stone of Scone to Edward of the House of Plantagenet.
We realize that this offer breaks with tradition somewhat. However, we would like the remind this council that Edward's father was married to the sister of late King Alexander. Indeed, Edward has better claim to the lineage of Alexander than any other. Obviously, political considerations were taken into account in this decision as well. The Kingdom of Scotland will endure, and if it means accepting the gracious rule of a norman monarch then this will be no detriment to our honour.
We await response from the House of Plantagenet.
Regent Duncan
The High Lords of Scotland
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