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gibsonsg91921
12-14-2007, 01:40
Council Speaker:
This session of The Teutonic Order Council is now open! It will end at Sunday 0:00 GMT when a one-day voting session will open. Now is the time to propose edicts for seconding and for those aspiring to become Kanzler to declare their candidacy.
OOC: Speak IC in this thread. At the time of the start, the Hochmeister has not yet assigned the following generals to a house:
OrdenMarschall Maximillian
Hans
Dietrich
He must declare the Dukes of Prussia and Livonia and assign the remaining general to a house.
Note: OrdenMarschall Maximillian has OOCly been planned to be the Duke of Livonia, Hans Duke of Prussia, and Dietrich a General of the House of Livonia. This is up to Hochmeister Gunther to confirm IC. Then the Duke of the leftover general needs to give him a county so he can get the necessary countship influence bonus.
Hochmeister Gunther walks into the council room, followed by a small retinue of aids and scribes. He appears a bit uncomfortable, as if speaking to a Council rather than an army is unusual for him.
Brothers, as you all know this is a historic occassion. This Diet is our first, and represents our first attempt at a more popular form of government for the Order's territories.
As such, there are a few things I need to take care of.
First, it is well known which settlements are allocated to which Orders. However, the issue of the capital, to be controlled personally by the Hochmeister. Although the current capital of the Order is Marienburg, the greatest castle of the Order, I would like it to be the capital of the Prussian Masterdom. As Prussia is already the smaller of the two Masterdoms, and lacks a major city like Riga, I think this is best to ensure parity between them.
I would informally propose that Konigsburg, located right in the center of our territories, be made the capital. This is not a formal proposal, and I welcome the opinions of the other electors.
Next, and more important, is the naming of Meisters and assigning of Masterdoms. I am naming OrdensMarschall Maximillian the Meister of the Livonian Masterdom. Elector Hans will henceforth become the Meister of the Prussian Masterdom. Elector Dietrich will be returning to Livonia, and be a member of that Masterdom. I would reccommend he be given a Countship, being the only member of either Masterdom without a formal title.
Next I would like to make an announcement. I am invoking my right to be the first Schatzmeister. As the new widened scope of position is new, amking it far more than just that of a treasurer, I think it best that it go to someone who already has a fair amount of authority within the Bruderhood, and this will give a chance for more Electors to join the Order, so that a real contest can be had for the next Schatzmeistership. In a little while I will outline my intentions as Schatzmeister.
Gunther clears his throat, then begins to speak again.
Alright, now of a declaration of my goals as Schatzmeister.
First of all, I intend to bring this war with Lithuania to a conclusion. To that end, my first few years will see our economy geared towards military ends. I plan on uniting our separated territories. I want both Dukes and our other Elector to be in command of different forces for this campaign, and will try to recruit effective armies for each.
After we mave forced the Lithuanians to surrender, or elimated them, I would like us to establish relations with those few Christian powers in the Baltic. Alliances will be sought our father the Empire, as well as with Poland and Denmark. Novgorod may see a signing of a trade agreement, but I'd rather not ally with non-catholics. The Mongols will be considered hostile, and at best an armed neutrality will spring up between us. As Muslims, I consider them our next target after the Lithuanians.
Once the war is concluded, I plan on working on our economy. Our forces will be scaled back and used defensively, while young Dietrich may be sent to take the trading Isle of Visby. Economic structures will, I hope make it to the top of the Dukes' building queues at that time. I also hope that more Electors will join us during that time.
At the end of my Schatzmeistership I expect the Order to be stronger in the area, the pagans to have been subdued, and for their to be a strong competition for the next Schatzmeistership. I will also issue a report at that time.
Are there any questions?
gibsonsg91921
12-14-2007, 02:32
Hans, the newly made Duke of Prussia, kneels.
I reswear allegiance to the Teutonic Order and to Hochmeister Gunther the Chivalrous in gratitude for this promotion. The build queues for my new dominion shall be established prior to the end of this council meeting. (OOC: I'll be making the new relevant threads shortly)
I look forward to driving the pagan Lithuanians to the abyss! To do this, we shall need money. I strongly suggest that dirt roads be built in all of our regions that do not have them prior to the construction of anything else. Next, clearance of the land for farming should be prioritized.
To assist in the production of monies, I will be tearing down the outer walls of Thorn to convert it to a commercial city. This will not hinder our defenses much, as Marienburg, capital of Prussia and of the Order is an impregnable Fortress and will ensure the safety of the southern provinces.
Dietrich, my friend, I would beseech you to claim a Lithuanian castle upon your return to Livonia to cut off the production of troops for our foes.
While the slaying of our foes is paramount, the civilians may yet be swayed. Our Order Bishops Ortwinus and Wilhelm Guiskard should be sent behind enemy territory to convert the populations. Our good Order Priest Johannes should remain in Teutonic territory to spread the good word to our subjects.
Hans swallows a bit.
Excuse me, I forgot my place. These are all just suggestions, of course my lord.
gibsonsg91921
12-14-2007, 02:51
To ensure smooth rule, I will propose the following laws (laws are different from edicts - the constitute the charter, of which we have none yet):
Law 1.1 - The Hochmeister is authorized to move the capital of the Teutonic Order to an unallocated province. OOC Rider: At the start of the game, the capital is Marienburg, also part of Prussia. Marienburg will remain part of Prussia if the capital is moved to a new province.
Law 1.2 - The Teutonic Order cannot declare war without an Edict authorizing it. However, if a neutral army marches on Order land without military access, the relevant Duke may declare war himself without an Edict.
Law 1.3 - Each House shall have one mobile army and as many defensive armies as necessary to garrison provinces or forts. Only the mobile armies may cross onto other lands.
These laws require two seconders and a 2/3rds vote to pass.
There is no need to fear being presumptuous, Duke Hans. We all started out as knights in service to the Order, and whatever ranks we obtain, we are all Brothers in our service to Christ.
Since all lands are currently in one House or the other, it will be up to you and Duke Maximilian where to build roads. I, for one, agree that dirt roads are a priority.
There is a Lithuanians castle which seperates our lands at the thinnest point. I think that is the one you mean. I hope to have an army for Dietrich to take it, and will give much of my own soldiers to him for the purpose.
I think making Thorn a city to support our economy is a splendid idea. I woudl like to hear your thoughts on making Konigburg the capital, so that Marienburg can remain in House Prussia.
I will take control of the priests myself, although they will likely do just as you suggested (Gunther has several religious traits, I think he'll micromanage priests during his term :clown: ).
gibsonsg91921
12-14-2007, 02:55
I would gladly sacrifice Konigsberg for the Order to be a capital. The capital should be independent of House.
Do you see merit in my laws? Do you second them?
I am glad to second laws 1.1 and 1.2, but I would add an amendment to 1.3. I would add a third possible mobile army for the Hochmeister. This force could cross the lands of the Dukes to help either House. Right now we lack the lands to support three large armies, but in the future it will likely be important.
gibsonsg91921
12-14-2007, 02:58
I shall propose a fourth law to fit that need!
Law 1.4 - The Hochmeister shall always have his own mobile army for the defense of any House.
I particularly like Law 1.2. It allows me to move the Capital further towards the center of our territories as we connect them. Konigsburg will likely be returned to you eventually, Duke. I thank you for letting me use it.
I shall propose a fourth law to fit that need!
Law 1.4 - The Hochmeister shall always have his own mobile army for the defense of any House.
In that case, I shall second all four laws.
deguerra
12-14-2007, 03:55
The man with no name enters the hall (The Good, The Bad and The Ugly music palying again :clown: ):
Yes, yes, consider them seconded.
Ok, we have two seconds. Votes can be made after all members are present. Is there any other business which can be discussed in the meantime?
gibsonsg91921
12-14-2007, 04:35
There are edicts to be passed, I am sure. A multitude of things need to be made ready before we set forth.
Scratches his head.
Yet none that I can think of now, my lord. Perhaps in the morrow after I have a nap in the Prussian Chambers I shall think of some orders of business that need to be hammered out. In the meantime, if anyone else has any ideas, they should feel free to speak their minds.
Maximillian enters the chambers
I think it would be best to make our priority to take out the Lithuanians as quickly as possible and unite the two chapters. We cannot show any signs of weakness in front of our Baltic neighbours and should complete the mission we were sent here for as quickly as possible.
Komtur Dietrich can take his pick on whichever County he wants
(OOC: can the Chapter's capital be given to a Count or is that always controlled by the Duke?)
I'm not sure there is much need to hold a vote for the laws as we are all in agreement here, such formalities will only slow our conquests.
gibsonsg91921
12-14-2007, 19:04
OOC: The capital of a Chapter House cannot be given to a count, it's the Meister's.
I also think this Diet should focus mainly on goals, and that our first goal is victory in our war with the Godless Lithuanians. However, as the first Diet this is a somewhat groundbreaking event, and better legal minds than I might have reasons for making proposals.
nonsense, the Lithuanians are pathetic creatures, surely with our military might we can crush them before these halls fill with Komturs once more. Are you afraid HochMeister, do you not trust your men?
Gunther looks briefly shocked, but quckly regains his composure and turns toward Maximillian.
Young man, I did not rise so highly in the Order's ranks without fighting an leading more than my own share of battles. I am not sure what connection you make between my declaration that the Lithuanians will be defeated and your slight on my bravery, but I am curious. What matter of madness or foolhardiness makes you speak to your Hochmeister so?
gibsonsg91921
12-14-2007, 23:11
If we find we are all in agreement with every piece of legislation, then we can sally forth Sunday night to defeat our foes, I am sure. The Lithuanians aren't going anywhere in that time.
I recommend peace between us Bruders - we mustn't fight amongst ourselves. Save it for the godless pagan swine.
Bruder Hans is correct. It is the Lithuanians that are our enemy. I will go over our maps (look at a Teutonic Order campaign) and work on a plan.
For now, here is what I am thinking:
-Since Bruder Dietrich is going to Livonia, he might as well take a city on the war. I will donate much of my own army to him for the task of taking Palanga, which will provide a thin connection between our territories. From there, we can widen it.
-A powerful army for Meister Hans will be consolidated from the remaining garrisons in Prussia, which may be used to strike into the heart of Lithuanian territory, going towards Minsk, which has rich gold mines and is the economic heart of the Pagans.
-Lastly, a army of the North will be assembled for Meister Maximilian, which will go south of Palanga, possibly joined by Dietrich, and widen the connection between our territories.
I wish to end this war quickly, so that we may build up our territories and plan an attack on the other unbelievers the Mongols.
I am a soldier Hocmeister, a soldier has to be foolhardy to be good at his job. I was merely suggesting that taking out the Pagans is a realistic objective and one that I will put all means availible to me towards completion. Give me men, Hochemister, and I will give you victory.
OOC edit: oops, missed Zim's last post, ignore this one
Men you shall have, Meister Maximilian. And under your leadership I have no doubt they'll be put to good use.
Bruders, are there any concerns you have with my general outline for the war?
gibsonsg91921
12-14-2007, 23:43
I am concerned about the possible intervention of the Novgorod Republic. They are Orthodox Christians and thus unlikely allies. They may be sympathetic for the pagan Lithuanians as we aggress upon their unholy lands. We must make a trade agreement with them to improve relations.
Edict 1.1 - A trade agreement shall be made with the Novgorod Republic.
We must still beware - Maximillian! Ensure you have the proper number of troops on the borders as protection.
I shall leave Dietrich in charge of the defence of Livonia while I attempt to unite the two chapters through conquest, I'm sure he is a most capable man and the Hochmeister should be able to provide him with sufficient troops for the task, as of yet there are no enemies to the North so garrisons can be kempt minimal with Dieter commanding a small army ready to march to the defence of any Livonian city.
gibsonsg91921
12-14-2007, 23:50
OOC: Dietrich, not Dieter :smile:
Yes, perhaps a centrally-located fort would be salubrious to Livonia.
Meister Maximillian, that plan seems good to me. However, it makes no mention of my idea of having Dietrich conquer Palanga with my troops on his way north to Livonia. Does the idea seem good to you?
Also, I second Edict 1.1, and would add another few
Edict 1.2 - A trade agreement shall be made with Poland.
Edict 1.3 - The Lithuanians shall have all of their territories taken and their people converted to Christianity. :skull:
Forgive me, I almost forgot:
Edict 1.4 - A trade agreement and alliance will be sought with our Fatherland the Holy Roman Empire as soon as possible.
gibsonsg91921
12-15-2007, 00:06
I would think that Dietrich should hasten to Livonia to bolster its defenses. Maximillian would be able to use his army to connect Prussia and Livonia as Dietrich approaches.
EDIT: OOC: That's Edict 1.2, Zim, the Edicts and Laws use different numberings.
OOC: Wait, I thought your Edict was 1.1, and mine were 1.2-1.4. :dizzy2:
Very well, since all object to my three-pronged attack, we will make a more cautious two pronged one, with Meister Maximilian in the North and Meister Hans in the South.
gibsonsg91921
12-15-2007, 00:11
OOC: Oops, I only saw the fourth. Sorry! Nevermind
IC: I second all edicts proposed by Hochmeister Gunther. Are we all in accord?
OOC: Ok, now I'm clear. Edict 1.3 was kind of a joke. :clown: I added an IC announcement to the last post, you might want to check it.
Is it safe to assume that more edicts can be passed this Diet since it's our first and establishes everything?
My plans were more for later, if Dietrich has suffient forces to make a conquest on his journey then I have no objection to this.
I refuse to second Edict 1.1 and propose intstead Edict 1.5: as soon as the war with Lithuania is won we shall turn our attentions to either the heathen Russians or Mongols, whichever suits us best at the time.
I have no wish to improve relations with such barbarians. I will however second Edicts 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4
perhaps we should also seek an alliance with our fellow Christians, the Danes?
I had planned to send my own army along with Dietrich to take Palanga, so he can afterwards transfer it to you. Since our mightiest fortress is in Prussia, it seemed fair to send high quality troops to Livonia, especially as they border the Russians, whose stance we do not know.
I will second Edict 1.5. I know it seems contradictory, but while I would not object to trading with the Russians for now, I have no doubt they will be our enemy in the future. It would be wise to leave a way open for us to strike at them.
I do not mind allying with the Danes, but with their recent conversion and history of barbarism, I suspect it is only a matter of time before they attack the other Christian nations.
gibsonsg91921
12-15-2007, 00:50
As this is our first Council, we must ensure full support of all Edicts and Laws. Herr Maximillian, Edict 1.1 was more to protect your border until we inevitable invade the Novgorod Republic. Until then, we might profit by relieving them of some of their money. Leopold the merchant is in Livonia, I believe, and well suited to financially invade their territory.
Bruders, I have a report of my first season. All build queues for the first season were fulfilled. I must ask permission to raise taxes in your settlements, if we are to sustain our army.
Bruder Dietrich has started his journey to Palanga and Livonia, on the fleet commanded by our Bruder Friedrich. He has a large army with siege engines, which will be able to take Palanga by the third season, then meet up with Meister Maximillian's men so the latter can wided the connection between our Orders.
I took the liberty of recruiting a few units of troops, so that Meister Hans can make a strike at Lithuania's western border, distracting them from our conquests further north, and protecting our best military fortress, Marienburg.
Money is tight, but rather than disband troops, I would make it by taking settlements from Lithuania. Tell me if you disagree with this idea, and I'll trim the budget otherwise.
A young von Hesse wished to join us, but he known to be disloyal and a poor general. I think we can wait for better candidates.
gibsonsg91921
12-16-2007, 00:00
Ha! Disloyal generals must not be allowed into the most sacred Teutonic Order. If we lose our standards we shall all become corrupted.
Of course, we may strike at the Lithuanians. Their treasuries are full, and we can relieve them of them. Minsk is a wealthy target, and where I most desire to strike as soon as I reach it.
Good news! All good news. As per the money problems, I forsee that we will be fine as long as we fight well and continue to build farms.
I am glad to her that you are please with my decisions, Meister. I think you will have to go through one more Lithuanian city before hitting Minsk, but I will glady have your army move in that direction now that it is gathered.
Once Thorn becomes a city, do I have your permission to raise the taxes to "high"? We need the money.
gibsonsg91921
12-16-2007, 00:05
Raise the taxes as high as you need, but keep a watchful eye on the population. They may become sympathetic to the Lithuanians if we overtax them.
Bruders, I bring you my report for the current season. While there is much good news, I regret to say that there is bad news as well.
I am glad that Meister Hans has smashed the rebels, and continued towards Hrodna.
At the same time, Dietrich succeeded in taking the Castle of Palanga, and our Orders are now connected. This is great news indeed.
The Poles came to us begging for an alliance, and offering map information and trading rights at no cost. I gladly accepted.
Lastly, we have a new Bruder. Bruder Athalwolf von Essen has joined the Order. He is young (22), but a skilled fighter, pious man, and known for his loyalty and chivalry. We are very lucky to have him.
Now, the bad news. The castle of Windau is undersiege. Meister Maximillian has a large enough army to relieve the siege, but will take two seasons to make it there. Meanwhile, the Lithuanians are snooping arounf Palanga, no doubt hoping to take it back. I ressomend that Maximillian make for Windau immediately, then move south to join with some of Dietrich's forces and hence southeast to take more Lithuanian territories.
Meister Hans now has a choice ahead of him. There are two nearby settlements. To the east is Hrodna, which he can reach this season. However, the small Lithuanian village of Bialystok is also within one march, and has no walls, allowing it to be assaulted immediately.
New Bruder Karl Scherer can reach the village with a unit of Christ Knights. If Hans allowed some of his infantry to split and go under command of Bruder Karl, the village could be taken this turn and it's people taxed, balancing our budget. He could still go on to siege Hrodna, and Bruder Karl could join him for the assault a season or two later.
Lastly for the bad news, the Novgorodians have shown their true colors. The heretics allied with the Lithuanians. I suggest we treat them as hostile, preparing for a possible attack on our northern flank.
That is all, Bruders. I look forward to hearing your orders and ideas. Meister Maximillian, I would like to know if I can raise taxes in your settlements, we may need them.
deguerra
12-16-2007, 08:28
OOC: Brüder, technically, not Bruders. German has werid plurals somtimes :D
:clown:
edit: do let me know when I need to do anything :D
OOC: Quiet, you, I'm using an Americanized version of the German. I'm allowed to say Ninjas, so I'm allowed to say Bruders. :clown:
P.S. If Hans is generous, you might have a battle this turn. :thumbsup:
deguerra
12-16-2007, 08:35
OOC: good good. just try to not give me too much to do the next week, because ill need at least 24 hrs to fight a battle, because of work
Hochmeister feel free to do as you wish with my settlements in Livonia, within reason. I am trusting in your ability as Treasurer and will allow you to build and tax as you wish. This applies to all Livonian settlements as Dietrich has not yet decided which County he would like to claim for his own. May I ask which of the new Komturs are to join my Chapter?
gibsonsg91921
12-16-2007, 15:27
I will lay siege to Hrodna and grant some of my troops to Karl Scherer so he may crush the village.
Meister Hans, Karl Scherer will go to the Prussian Order. I will have to await word from Bruder von Essen. I prefer to hear new 's Bruder's wishes on which Order to join, and where God is calling them.
OOC: I'll get the save for the two battles up tonight.
gibsonsg91921
12-17-2007, 03:54
The Novgorod Republic... they have consigned to our worst fears and aligned themselves with our mortal enemies, the Lithuanians. Maximillian, promise me you shall watch your borders. One day I hope to join you and slaughter the dogs together.
Mister Council Speaker, will the voting polls open or are we in agreement over all edicts, I believe some generals have already started campaigning.
gibsonsg91921
12-17-2007, 22:57
Verily Meister Maximillian, that was some seasons ago!
OOC: We decided to skip voting and the rest of the council because there was nothing else to say and everything was agreed on.
I believe all of the edicts and laws were unanimously agreed upon, excepting that of trading with Novgorod, which is likely out of the question now that they have allied with Lithuania.
Meister Hans! I congratulate you on your great victory at Hrodna! I assume after meeting with Karl and the rest of your troops, you will be heading to Minsk?
gibsonsg91921
12-18-2007, 01:32
Indeed, sir! Minsk will be sacked and its treasury made ours!
deguerra
12-18-2007, 01:59
lets hope it nets us more than the single florin that golrious settlement i was assigned to did
A young man runs into the Chamber, out of breath. His clothes are those of an Order messenger, but appear ripped and dirty, as if he had ridden all night, paying little heed to dodging branched in heavily wooded Prussia.
My Lords, I bear terrible news! Hochmeister Gunther succeeded in defending Konigsburg from a Lithuanian attack led by their prince himself. The prince and his army were put to flight. However, a mangonel shot hit the Hochmeister and killed him while he was chasing down routers! Since the artillery had been ordered not to fire, it is suspected that the Lithuanians paid one of the head engineers manning the Mangonels to kill Hochmeister Gunther.
A Captain named Rupert Bresch has taken control of the army. He had the Mangonel crew arrested and the their head executed for treason. He awaits further orders from the new Hochmeister, Hans.
gibsonsg91921
12-19-2007, 00:13
This is terrible! Rest in peace Hochmeister Gunther, long live Hochmeister Maximillian!
OOC: Zim, you can continue Schatzmeister as Rupert Bresch or whoever you pick now - I'll wait to RP it IC until I get your confirmation.
The messenger nervously clears his throat.
Actually, sir, it appears that the Hochmeister named you as his successor. The Order has a long history of having the best commander be the heir for the position, and it seems your fame as a military man passed up Ordensmarschall Maximillian's, who retains his position while you move up.
Herr Rupert says he has found papers giving Hochmeister Gunther's orders as Schatzmeister for the next few seasons. He can carry them out if you wish.
OOC: Yep, the game made you Hochmeister. :yes: Must have switched last turn. I can finish the next five turns if you like, but some kind of order from the new Hochmeister, Hans, would be needed.
gibsonsg91921
12-19-2007, 00:22
Well, then. Find Herr Rupert! Let him serve the remainder of the term. If he was the chosen successor of the army, he can serve as Schatzmeister.
A young man walks in. He looks no older than 20, and has long black hair. Aside from his lack of a helmet, he is clad entirely in plate armor. He bows to Hans
Hochmeister, I am Rupert Bresch. After the treacherous Mangonel crew killed Hochmeister Gunther, I was able to take control of the army and finish the route of the Lithunanians. Aside from heavy losses among the archers and the loss of a heavily depleted cavalry unit, the army is whole.
I will gladly fulfill the Hochmeister's plans as Schatzmeister, should you wish it.
gibsonsg91921
12-19-2007, 00:52
As I am now Hochmeister and thus no longer Meister of Prussia, I name Karl Scherer, my able compatriot, Meister of Prussia. Athalwolf von Essen is now part of Livonia. Rupert Bresch, you will be part of Prussia. Markus Otterbach, the new recruit, shall also join Prussia. A report has been sent to all Teutons to simplify the new information and to help the Meisters assign territory to their men.
Palanga I shall hold onto under Hochmeister control for a while, perhaps making it the new capital as we conquer more Lithuanian territory and convert it more. I would hope more priests will be educated and come hither. Konigsberg remains the Order capital, and Hrodna I shall not allocate for the time being either.
deguerra
12-19-2007, 01:10
Karl Scherer strust in with a satisfied grin on his face
So that old hag Gunther copped it and now Karl is all of a sudden needed. Well this is most excellent news. Perhaps this is finally the just reward for my past deeds, perhaps the good Lord is giving me my chance.
In any case, I would be most grateful to you, Hochmeister, if you could let me know which territories belong to whom, what the deal is with our current capital (is it part of Prussia or independent, formally?) and who exactly my commanders are currently. A table would be nice. I'm sure my Livonian counterpart would't mind having his included either.
Thankyou most kindly
gibsonsg91921
12-19-2007, 01:41
OOC: I would make a table like the KOTR one, but I don't know how.
The present allocation of territories are:
Hochmeister's Desmene:
Konigsberg
Hrodna
Palanga
Prussia:
Marienburg
Thorn
OOC: Not sure about Livonia.
Rupert stands to speak.
Meister Scherer, I believe Livonia consists of Riga, Windau, Arensburg, and Pernau, with Riga being the capital.
Warluster
12-19-2007, 08:36
A man enters the diet covered from hair to toe with armor, his fists have spikes and his back has spikes as well, and has a long horned helemt. He enters and sits down at the Livonian table, then lifts his helemt up to reveal a young face.
The death of the Hochmeister is unfortunate, shall he be welcomed favourably.
He points at Karl, eyes narrowed
Now listen you little !#@*, if you want to insult our leaders, do so in a tavern, or some alley, but never, in front of me. He may be &^%* bad Hochmeister, but he is still a honorable leaer, in life or death.
Dietrich calms down, and then seems to notice the presence he is in, and his voice clams considerably.
Seeing matters are resolved, elsewhere, I would like to propose a a Edict.
Edict 1.6: A Military Police service will be set up. The Military Police, or MP, will have several jobs. They are not allowed to attack international armies, but exsist only to clear the land of Rebels, escort interntional armies or diplomats, make unhappy cities happy and other jobs assigned. There is one MP General at a time, with a army chosen by the MP. The MP is chosen every Session by the OrdenKanzler.
It shall enable a loyal land while we deal with affairs elsewhere. It will ensure we are not backstabed, and if anyone choses to be disloyal, the MP can track and follow those #$&* until they deide to be nice.
Dietrich bows and sits
deguerra
12-19-2007, 08:53
now you listen to me, little Dietrich. Through unfortunate circumstances, I have become Master of Prussia. I intend to devote myelf to that role and to see the Order flourish. But I will not have my words, my authority or my actions questioned by Brothers. I answer to the Hochmeister and the Meister of Livonia. I respect and welcome any relevant and contructive criticism, but if you ever, EVER disrespect my person in my presence again, then I will take the matter up with the Master of Livonia, to make your miserable little life living hell. I offer you this one chance. I do not expect an apology, just shut up and say no more and I will consider us even.
Now, regarding other matters, despite our differences, Bruder Dietrich's suggestions of an order police is sound. However, I personally would prefer to hold of with internal and rebel policing until we have secured our position. I would also say that the Schatzmeister (OOC: we agreed that there is no chancellor, i thought? his role will be played by the treasurer? am I correct? we need to write all this down somewhere safe :D) should not choose such a powerful office himself. In fact, I would say it should be chosen only by the Hochmeister, preferably in agreement with the Ordensmarschall and the Schatzmeiester, and if possible even in agreements with the Meisters.
that is all for now.
Warluster
12-19-2007, 09:06
Dietrich stands, and laughs deeply so his helmet shakes.
Fine then, make my life hell. I don't care if you say something to mein Master. Only he can threaten me with words, or swords for that matter. You may be Master of Prussia, but that does not enable you to disgrace previous HochMeisters. Am I clear? Or do I have to YELL IT!
Dietrich roars this last bit, then takes a deep breath and quietly says
But I do thank you for the support of my edict.
He smiles
But to make this land more stabe, don't we need more Generals killing #%&^*@# rebels? We don't want MP's if the land is full of pansies and roses.
He nods and sits down
Rupert chuckles slightly as he hears the preceding exchange.
Mein Meister, Bruder Dietrich, I believe that it is the Lithuanians we are at war with, not eachother, I served with the previous Hochmeister, and he was a capable strategist and adequate general. His only mistake was being too trusting in the chivalry of others, which allowed the enemy to infiltrate our artillery crews. I rectified this mistake by killing the crew and all prisoners from the battle.
I second Edict 1.6, but agree with the Meister that it's passage wait until this most recent war ends, or at least until it begins to wind down. At the moment we are too low on florins, and need every soldier on the Lithuanian front.
I also second Edict 1.6, rebels are never good to have around your lands and it may be a way for the Treasurer to get rid of annoying upstart electors, not naming any names of course.
I would also like to take this time to publicly announce Dietrich as the heir to the Livonian Chapter (OOC: if meisters have this privilege?) for his service to the Order in taking Palanga.
OOC: I would assume they do. :yes:
gibsonsg91921
12-19-2007, 22:56
OOC: Not Dieter, it's Dietrich. Think von Dassel or von Saxony, not Bresch, von Essen, nor von Kassel.
Warluster
12-19-2007, 23:19
Dietrich stands and bows to Meister Maxmillian, he then salutes, and the heavy sound of rining fills many ears
I am most honored, I shall hope my services do great good for mein Order. I hope to live up to your name.
Dietrich turns to the Council, and then turns to Rupert
Yes, I know Rupert, I never fought any of my other Knights, I was only passing words. Is that not what this council is for!? I think the MP should be able to kill Rebels now! Yes we need help on the Lithuanian front, but the little #%^&'s aren't running and screaming at us. Clear the land of Rebels now, and we can focus on defending our lands from invasion.
Dietrich bows once again to Meister Maxmillian, then sits down, shining the spikes on his fist.
gibsonsg91921
12-19-2007, 23:29
We need to aggressively assault the Lithuanians as our treasury is low and theirs is high. I shall withhold on mandating Edict 1.6 be put into practice until our treasury is more stable and the Lithuanians are bereft of their city of Minsk. Until then, I shall install Rupert Bresch as Schatzmeister for the remainder of the term. Next term and next election would be a prime chance to implement the new orders for the Military Police.
deguerra
12-19-2007, 23:44
Congratulations Dietrich. I hope we can see past our differences and work on the Lithuahians together.
Meister Scherer, a question. Is there any chance that I might be appointed Komtur of Thorn?
deguerra
12-19-2007, 23:54
Most certinaly. I was merely holding off to organise my thoughts and my territories. However, as I think it will be a while until the revered Hochmeister instates other territories into Prussia, and I fully back his waiting, I think your request is unreasonable. Furthermore, given the lack of other candidates, you may also consider yourself heir to the mastership, unless the Hochmeister has anything against that. I do, however, reserve the right to revise my decision on the heirship at any stage. Thorn, however, you may consider yours. Congratulations Komtur
Rupert bows.
Thank you, my Lord. I shall take good care of it, even while I am busy slaughtering the Lithuanians.
Rupert rushes into the Council chamber, looking both worried and angry.
My Lords, Novgorod has sieged Riga. Knowing they faced destruction, the Lithuanians must have lured them into war with us! Meister Maximillian can relieve, but it would be close. My men are at his disposal, but he would have to wait another season to get them, and Riga may fall in the meantime.
gibsonsg91921
12-22-2007, 00:32
Those scoundrels shall regret the day.
Warluster
12-22-2007, 00:38
Dietrich topples from his chair, and rises, swearing
Damn them! One step ahead the little *&^%!
We're going to have to do some quick working here, I volunteer to head north and give some relief to mein Meister. We should execute eveery little *&$# we come across, Lithuanian of course.
Secondly, how the hell did we not see them coming? I thought we were booody marvelous at the that! I believe someone has let the Order down...
Dietrich sits heavily, and stares at the Council as a whole
Rupert's eyes narrow.
I hope that accusation was not addressed at me. By the time the Russians were seen coming it was too late to beat them to Riga.
Warluster
12-22-2007, 00:55
Dietrich doesn't stand, but absently pulls at a piece of wood on the table
Maybe it was Rupert. I'm leaving that up to you. I was more or less hoping, that if you saw them coming, why didn't you warn Meister Maxmillian, who could've reinforced Riga more quickly?
I'm accusing no one of anything though, just wondering who #$&*ed up. If you are so quick to defend yourself, maybe it was you?
Dietrich stares at Rupert, and underneath his helmet the other Livonians can see a sly smile forming.
Considering your irrational dislike of the Prussian Electors, I merely assumed such prejudice would cloud your judgment. Maximillian is much closer to the border than I, and I would suspect that he was in the best position to see this attack coming.
Warluster
12-22-2007, 01:18
Dietrich is jumps out of his seat
I have nothing against Prussia, Rupert! It is merely two times in a row which Prussia seems to have stuffed up. If a Livonian Elector messed up, I would just as easily pile the %^$# on him.
Dietrich sits before adding
I assume though Rupert, you will be trying your hardest to help Riga?
Rupert smiles.
I would have thought it was Livonia's responsibility to look after their capital. It seems they have not taken that responsibility very seriously.
I take my orders from Meister Hans. If he says to march north and save the Livonians from their incompetence, then I shall. If he prefers I march east to take care of the Lithuanian Prince's large army, I shall.
OOC: Ahh, the fun of having almost every character lean towards dread rather than chivalry. :clown:
Rupert walks back into the room carrying a thick book, and immediately opens it and starts reading.
Ok, with Meister Maximillian's decision to wait on reinforcements, Riga has been taken with heavy losses but thankfully occupied. Reinforced by the best of my army, he is now able to retake the city. Another army had started to march on the castle of Dunaburg, but thankfully they were too cowardly to precede and have retreated back into Russian territory.
I await a large Lithuanian army with my "mighty" remnants, consisting of militia, depleted units, and clergy.
Hochmeister Hans stands ready to take Minsk this season, which will end our money problems permanantly.
We have a new general, Matthias something or other.
I suggest some consolidation after this season, as build queues can be filled again and armies bought. Then we will take Vilnius and complete the shortening of our borders.
Warluster
12-24-2007, 10:11
A heavily clad knight come running into the Council room through a door from the back, and he trips over his claok and crashes into a table. The Livonian man nearby help him, and are shoved away, and the man hands DIetrich a sealed letter. Dietrich opesn it and reads it with widening eyes, then hears Rupert's statements and stand soon after.
What is this trechary!?
You leave good cicitzens of the Order to the mercy of those Lithuanians!? We have abandoned a loyal city of the Order, throw it to those barbarians!
The Knight whispers in his ear but Dietrich brushes him away and whispers
Do I look like I give a danm?
He turns back to the Council
Sure Meister Maxmillian is reclaiming it, but in the process more civillians of our order will die, as many loyal soldiers! I am sure it would've been easy to defend, with its great walls and the likes. What next, give them &*^%ing Konigsberg!
I'll say it once and I expect you to remmeber this ^%&$, defend it or die trying! Bloody hell lads, we can't defend our lands with such crap!
Dietrich stares around him, including his fellow Livonians, and sits heavily, the Knight waits and DIetrich turns
Bugger off, go get drunk.
The man bows and hurrys out the back door.
There was no treachery, I did not stand idly by but was forced to wait. A regiment of my own men mutinied due to a lack of 'plunder' and joined a group of brigands that had been shadowing us for the last two years. To let that behavior go unpunished would demoralise the entire army, these men should not fight for money but God! Instead of marching onwards to Riga I was forced to turn back and counter the rebel threat, they were tricky fellows and took a few months to capture but every one was killed in the end. Dietrich, insulting me has lost you the position of heir to Livonia, I shall wait and see whether any more intelligent generals join my Chapter.
OOC: this is all true isn't it Zim :whip:
Gentlemen, Minsk has been taken by Hochmeister Hans and sacked. Thankfully, Riga was occupied and the garrison bled the Russians dry (half their army gone, on autoresolve to a tiny garrison. As I'm learning in the Teutonic game, Russian early units suck in autoresolve. :sweatdrop: ). Meister Maximillian now stands ready to retake Minsk, and I've used the season spent building siege equipment to send him 4 units of soldiers from Windau, as well as giving him the best men of my army.
OOC: Hey, whatever you want to tell yourself, EF. :clown:
Warluster
12-24-2007, 13:19
Dietrich stands again after a barrage of threats and excuses are thrown at him
Then why did you not defend Riga then slaughter those pigs? I was not accusing you of such things those Meister, I was only wondering aloud why such things should happen. If you wish to threaten me and take such things away, do so, I am merely fighting for a better Order.
I congratulate on said soldiers for taking back Riga.
DIetrich sits, then laughs quietly and turns to a young knight near him
Bloody nutcases, care more about loot and lost *&^% then own &^%*ing cities.
Dietrich lets out a booming laugh, also accompanied by the young knight and others around him before being silenced by a icy look from meister Maxmillian.
gibsonsg91921
12-24-2007, 19:57
It was Ordenmarshall Maximillian's wishes to wait until he had a stronger force to fight the Russians off. Now, he is primed to kill them all and push forward.
Plus, Minsk is taken! Schatzmeister Bresch, do the scouts know at all how many regions the Lithuanians lay claim to still? I wish to drive them off the face of the earth, for good. Once Lithuania is crushed, I shall being allocating territory and moving the capital.
Indeed, he has killed them all and retaken Riga. Now he is free to stay where he is or move south to move against the Lithuanians.
Meister Hans, now that you have taken Minsk, would you like to turn north towards the rest of the Lithuanians.
Gentlemen, we are now in the clear moneywise, resumption of recruitment and building will take place over this last season of mine as Schatzmeister.
Greetings, Bruders, my term as interim Shatzmeister has ended. Here is my final report:
During the Hochmeisters and my reign we have captured 6 territories. Meister Karl Scherer captured Bialystok, Hochmeister Hans took Hrodna, Lida, and Minsk. Dietrich took Palanga, and Meister Maximillian took Siauliai and had the dubious honor of losing and taking Riga, and possibly sacking it.
We have welcomed 5 new generals over the past 1 years, including me, Meister Karl Scherer, Markus Otterbach, and the newest, Matthias Karolinger.
The treasury is now at 5415 florins, with a 2606 florin profit per turn. Most settlements have been upgraded during the term, although for a while in the middle we were too low on money.
We are allied to Poland and now the Holy Roman Empire, and managed to acquire trading rights with the Mongols, as well as map information from them and our allies. Our Russian enemies have been beaten back, and are apparently not much of a threat.
Lithuania is down mostly to it's weakest settlements, and only Vilnius stands as a major territory of their's. Meister Hans has a large army in Minsk, Meister Maximillian a larger one in Riga, and me a fair sized but low quality one further south of Riga. I imagine the next Schatzmeister can bring this war to a close.
So, who's up to run for the next term?
gibsonsg91921
12-26-2007, 22:59
As Lithuania is on the rocks, I shall allocate territories shortly.
gibsonsg91921
12-26-2007, 23:33
The regions of Konigsburg, Bialystok, Hrodna, and Lida, formerly under Hochmeister control, I allocate to Prussia, bringing their total region count to six. The regions of Palanga and Siauliai I allocate to Livonia, bringing their count to seven. Minsk I shall keep as the capital of the Teutonic Order.
deguerra
12-27-2007, 00:57
Sounds good, Hochmeister. Where do we head from here? (OOC: I would be up for Schatzmeister, but I have too much else on atm, as we have visitors and I need to go back to work in a few days)
gibsonsg91921
12-27-2007, 16:14
We shall continue to eliminate the Lithuanians, and once that task is complete we must look eastward to the Novgorod Republic and the Mongols.
Well, since no other candidates are apparently going to run, I put myself up for the Schatzmeistership.
My goals will be the elimination of the Lithuanians, then consolidation and preparation for an offensive war against Novgorod.
gibsonsg91921
12-29-2007, 06:16
You had a strong Reign last term, but I would cast my vote elsewhere if someone else were to run.
Warluster
12-29-2007, 09:48
Dietrich stands as he hears Rupert's next stand, then alughs, motioning for the others to luagh with him
Hah! After your various insults aginst several people, and several incidents, I am not going to vote for you.
But it is nothing against Prussia, in fact, if another Prussian puts himself forward, I will happily vote for them. Unfortunely, you all seem to scared of the position, except brave Rupert, who I congratulate for your last term.
I am not putting myself forward as it would leave no time for killing, I do have Lithuanians to execute right now actually.
Dietrich claps at Dietrich then sits, relaxing himself and holding his helemt absently.
I would be happy for the young one to continue his job, he seemed good enough at it to me.
gibsonsg91921
12-31-2007, 15:55
Agreed, then. Except for Dietrich. Perhaps we must hold a vote if Dietrich is unwilling to compromise. However, as there is no other candidate, Bresch is Schatzmeister.
I agree, let's wait on Dietrich. His opposition may be strong enough for him to run for the position. In that case, I would gladly avoid a double term.
Bah Dietrich has had enough time, if he can't decide by now then who knows if he ever will? Good luck as Chancellor lad, you'd have won the vote anyway.
gibsonsg91921
01-03-2008, 18:08
Then let's get started on conquering the Lithuanians! Congratulations Rupert Bresch.
Warluster
01-04-2008, 01:03
Dietrich stands and sighs, then laughs again
Is it age or are you people deaf? I clearly mentione dI would NOT be running for the position!
Dietrich pushes down his helm and sits down
I congratulate the new Chancellor, whoever that may be. I have had no time to hear of it, but I hope they do a better job then last term. I merely speak to ask when the next offensive starts, I need to get out of this hellhole, this place full...
Dietrich stops , his eyes trailing the floor from his helm.
Rupert smiles.
Well, with no other contestants, I suppose I win. I will immediately put build orders into effect, and get Meister Maximillian and Hochmeister Hans into position to finish off the pagans.
Bruder Dietrich, you will soon have the excitement you are craving. I think the Russians should learn what happens when they cross the Order. Should you be willing, I can prepare you an army to strike deep into Russian territory, and lay several of their cities to waste.
Greetings Bruders. Another year has passed and I have a report for you. Sensing weakness in our many wars, the Danish pirates have besieged Pernau. Luckily I had moved north near Riga the season before, and will reach them and send them off this season. We have good news, though. Meister Maximillian will be ready to assault Lithuania's capital and last major settlement, Vilnius, next season. Then it will just be mopping up. The Russians have fled our lands, and are nowhere to be seen.
Dietrich is now in command of a powerful half stack in Dunaburg. Pending Council permission, I would like him to make a raid against the Russians, and teach them not to make the mistake of attacking us again. This would be a sack and raze mission, since I would like to consolidate our Lithuanian provinces before committing to a long-term war against Novgorod.
gibsonsg91921
01-08-2008, 02:25
I find this most excellent!
Lords, I have failed you all. Our army besieging Vilnius is destroyed and their leader escaped unscathed. I hereby resign as Meister of Livonia, I am not fit for the position, Dietrich shall take over. I would like to remain here in (Lida?) for a few years to reflect upon my mistakes, I will not be defeated again I swear it.
deguerra
01-08-2008, 22:35
This is the bloody teutonic order, not some political state. We do not resign from our posts. In any case, it is not necessary. We may all lose battles and men, and must learn from our mistakes, not let ourselves be reduced to fear by them. You are a good Meister, and if I have any say in the matter, I say you stay. Pull yourself together man, regroup your men and fight some pagans!
gibsonsg91921
01-08-2008, 23:05
One loss is not enough to drive away your courage, is it? Get some sense, man! No one blames you for one loss. Now buck up and fight again!
I cannot, I have been disgraced. I shall refuse to rule for the next season, Dietrich can rule as Steward. I shall be studying the events of the battle and the forces of the remaining Pagans. Defeat will not happen twice, I swear it on my very life.
(OOC: 'twas actually a very fun battle, I only fought to the end because of Max's traits and to slow down our conquest a tad :P)
Warluster
01-09-2008, 11:37
Dietrich startles at his Meister's words, then mutters something to his colleagues who exchange nervous glances before laucnhing into furious conversation with Dietrich, with the result;
Meister Maxmillian, if I may say so, I think you have done a marvelllous job. If you wish for me to, temoarily, rule this &*^%pile, I will do so with duty, and let it be known; when you have licked your wounds, you will be treated all the same, and be a better Meister.
Dietrich steals a glance at the Knights at his elbow before looking up again
Though if you lose a battle again, I hope you won't retreat into a den, as you are now. You are a good General, and were merely overhwelmed, I wish your luck with your studies...
DIetrich prepares to continue when he is tugged down by his fellow Livonan Knights, where they contiue a furious and heated deabte, with the result of one leaving, but Dietrich with a more, supreior stance.
I thnk all of you for your kind words but I cannot be a good genral. Good generals do not suffer defeat, do not fail to kill their targets. there would be little I could do now anyway as no more than 30 of my men survived the battle even after the Grand Duke generously released the 14 prisoners he captured. I need this time, when I emerge from this castle I will be a new man, one who will not be defeated and I claim the Grand Duke's head for my own. I have a fued to settle with him and he will die by my blade.
Meister Maximillian, I think under the circumstances noone can be blamed for your defeat, except those gutless Lithuanians who hide their armies until they get 2:1 odds. Whenever you are ready for another crack at Vilnius I will make sure an army is ready.
OOC: We might have to have someone sub for Warluster while he fixes his MTW2 problems. Otherwise the only general we have that could fight battles in Livonia is Rupert and he's Prussian. :clown:
Warluster
01-09-2008, 11:59
Dietrich stands coldly, the thought of kind words clearly past fro his mouth
So what is this?! Chivarly!? I thought that was gone when we all started murdering each other! Or, from the sounds of your words, a feud. You'd be happy to throw away a title, throw a proper chance to defend our lands, just so you can think, and, and murder some little ^&*%!
A servant rushes in, scrawny and whimpering
What the %^&* do you want?
Rages Dietrich, he bows
A message; refrain from your harsh words.
Dietrich looks back up and clears his throat
As I was saying; years of study won't hurt it. Sorry, mein Meister, but I regard this as a form ,a form of fright. Are you scared that they might beat you again? Or are you cowarding away from a fight? Either way, I am no longer using kind words; that matter was left behind when we netered this small debate. But you have clearly said your answer; lt it be known, I will not be hiding when I am defeated, or vowing to kill every &*(&ing man who swears at me.
The servant whimpers something again with a furious look before Dietrich draws his sword and points a mailed finger at the man, and nods to his fellow Knights. He sits smiling as the man is dragged by his arms to outside to the hall, where he is heard being tortured for infomation.
deguerra
01-09-2008, 12:05
Shockingly, I am in accord with Dietrich here. Let him be Meister, if the old one is too much of a coward. Why is such a man Ordensmarshall, I ask?
Maximillian fumes
One %&^*ing season is too much to ask from you! Who let that insolent turd of a man into my chapter, you'd do yourself well Dietrich to keep your mouth shut lest I lop it off along with the rest of your head.
And I care not who is 'in accord' with you, what a £$%^&^ ponce. I am Ordensmarschall because I have earned it! Let me know when you are a greater commander than I you fool and then we'll see who deserves the title shall we. You are both lucky to still have your lives, just because I have been beaten does not mean I cannot kill.
In fact I am leaving now, the Grand Duke must die today!
Max leaves the chambers and politely asks Zim to let him know when the Grand Duke will be vulnerable
OOC: I expect a strong chance of vulnerable Grand Duke within 24 hours, although you'll have to take Dietrich's army to do it. We could consider that an IC "punishment", since Warluster can't fight battles for a while anyway.
OOC: yeah as you might have noticed max is very pissed off :clown: Warluster is playing the 'seethes with anger' trait well I have noticed
I was thinking more off a suicide charge with just a bodyguard though :P but he can use Dietrich's army to take out the Duke's army and then go for him with his bodyguard.
Warluster
01-09-2008, 23:10
Dietrich watches his Meister retreat from the Council Chambers then turns around to his fellow knights
What now, sir?"
asks one. Dietrich stands after swearing at him
You call that punishment!? Take my army, I don't give a @#%^! Chop off my head, that might take you away then!
Dietrich lays his head aas if going to the gullotine, then raises it laughs loudly.
Now to more important matters; Why the %^&$ did you let him take my army, Rupert!? Now I have to stay in this place, and he's going to kill every last Livonian and Prussian in that army!
Dietrich sits, while the Livonians around him stay silent.
OOC: I can't see the save, what other traits does he have? Dietrich is going to take advantage of Maxmillian's absence...
Bruders, we have a momentous decision ahead of us.
It has been two seasons since we last spoke. On the war front things are going mostly in our favor. Lithuania is on its last legs. Maximillian's army has been reinforced by the one form Dunaburg, and I have even better news. A young English crusading noble has joined our fight. Maximillian should rendevous with him next season, then this new full size army will ravage the few remaining Lithuanian lands.
The Danes are sieging Pernau again. I should be able to fight them off like before, but first I must deal with a Rus army threatening Riga. I grow weary as a Prussian spending all of my time defending Livonia, but I suppose it is for the best until Dietrich is again able to fight battles.
A small army has been recruited to form a core for the Army of Prussia. If my Meister is willing, think it would be good for him to sail north with it and conquer the Island of Gotland, which contains a rich trading city.
Now for the biggest news of the season. Our ally the Holy Roman Empire has declared war on our other ally Poland. I had hoped such a thing wouldn't happen, especially with the Empire suffering attacks from Danish pirates. We have long been a loyal vassal of the Empire, but I wonder at the wisdom of their move. Already under pressure in the north, they attack our ally without even informing us. Staying with them would likely create a second front to our west, where we have relatively few troops. We are not making as much money as before, due to the need to recruit large armies. Perhaps it is time to declare our independence from the secular HRE. I leave the decision up to wiser men than I.
OOC: I give the save a look later tday, Warluster. I know he has some points of dread, and a few command starts as well. I'll check his other traits. :yes:
gibsonsg91921
01-10-2008, 01:16
This is good. By my authority as Hochmeister, I charge Ordenmarshall Maximillian to be the one who escorts this Crusading Noble about the Lithuanian territories for our vengeance from Vilnius.
deguerra
01-10-2008, 01:19
I will take an army to Gotland.
Good, it is agreed then. Meister Karl will take the trading city of Visby, while Meister Maximillian excorts the English Noble Charles to rid the Baltic of the pagans.
About Poland, shall I cancel our alliance with the Empire, or with Poland? I'm afraid their diplomats insist we hoose one or the other.
gibsonsg91921
01-10-2008, 01:43
We must take the side of the Polish. The Holy Roman Empire has gone down a dark path - Poland shall continue to be our ally.
OOC: I think we need to figure something out. Are decisions like this up for a vote? I wouldn't mind letting Gibson have the final say as Hochmeister, but it could be voted on as well.
gibsonsg91921
01-10-2008, 02:57
OOC: We could vote. Hochmeister in this game has a lot of power actually, it's pretty cool.
Warluster
01-10-2008, 04:50
Dietrich stands anrgily,as usual, and the knights surrounding him prepare themselves
So those bloody little $%^&'s in the west are stuffing up again. Heres my opinon; they've made so many mistakes, we might as well stick to Poland so we don't get caught up in their $%^#!
I request personally to whoever will listen to me anymore;
One of the knights speak "I do"
Shut up; anyway, I ask someone could I please lead a offensive somewhere! I am sick of losing my voice every time someone stirs the %^&$ about! Hochmeister Hans, I am eager to expand our borders. Give me a army, Prussian, Livonian, Polish, English, all the other bloody cutlures we have helping us!
The matter of Military Police; why are they not formed yet? They are, would be, perfect for helping these new Crusading nobles! Maybe Meister Maxmillian wishes to be one, since he has backed away from the thought of a fight.
Dietrich grimly smiles, and sits after throwing a nasty look at the cowering knight sitting beside him.
We cannot betray them! We are their countrymen and Brothers. There are few men in our armies who do not have blood in the fatherland and if we side with Poland now then I'm afraid thousands of our soldiers may return home. You can formally break the alliance if you wish but I shall not ever help the Poles and attack them if the opertunity presents itself.
deguerra
01-10-2008, 22:33
What is this, Livonian treachery? We Prussians, the ORIGINAL Teutonic Order, came and saved you Livonian "Brothers of the Sword" from the certain defeat you would have suffered at the hands of some pagans, and THIS is how you repay us?
I would inform you, Meister, that the Hochmeisters word carries some influence, but if we vote and decide on something then it is BINDING on each and every one of us, INCLUDING Livonians. I am sorry Dietrich, I do not include you in this angry triade, as despite our differences you have proven yourself a loyal and invaluable asset to the order. As for your Meister however...
Finally, one must realize that the Emperor does not speak for all of the Germans, he is merely a figurehead to a crumbling empire. I doubt many in our ranks would be angry, or too displeased if his power were curbed a little.
In any case, I would have this council know that I will not stand for treachery. If the Meister of Livonia thinks he can dissobey a council decision then I vote we strip him of his titles and his membership in the order and send him to the Poles.
Warluster
01-10-2008, 22:47
Dietrich sits back while the two make there announcements, then tands with a knife in his hand
Well here we go... again! I am not siding with anyone, and not going against anyone, but mein meister, you know the words you speak are of forked tounge!
I shall say no more $%^#! I shall not prove disloyal to mein Meister! But I unfortunely, agree, with a Prussian. I have to prove disloyal, since I know my own Meister does not want me in his Chapter. If you so think so, banish me, I shall go elsewhere.
Dietrich shivers
But, I do not like it when Prussians bagre on about being the Original Chapter! YOU might have a #$%^ing good history, but ours is just as good. If 'Prussia' doesn't want us, FINE! We can form our own @#$%pile!
All the Livonain Knights surorounding Detrich sstand up and let out a hearty roar, then they all sit down, including Dietrich.
gibsonsg91921
01-10-2008, 22:55
We shall make an offensive, we shall destroy the Lithuanians, and then we shall cripple the Novgorod Republic! Dietrich, perhaps you should urge your Meister to grant you territory so you can set troop build orders!
OOC: Ah, the fun of a game where every avatar has several points of dread. :clown: Shall I go ahead and cancel the alliance with Poland and continue? It looks like the majority is in favor.
gibsonsg91921
01-11-2008, 00:40
We shall not submit to a dying Empire. Poland is our ally, and that is final.
Greetings Bruders, I bring some ill news this season. Our alliance with the Empire is broken. I was able to see of some Russians threatening Riga, but Pernau fell to the Danes before I could reach it. I should have the city sieged next season to recapture it.
Meister Maximillian has met the English Noble Charles and is commanding a large army. He should take at least one Lithuanian city this turn.
Meister Karl has set sail for Visby, as a trading city to fuel our military.
Lithuania's last major army is marching on Lida. Hochmeister Hans should be able to collect enough troops to see it off by the time it sieges the castle.
OOC: Sorry, Warluster. :shame: I think we had Dietrich all wrong when he was described to you. He has Fair Fighter, Religiously Proper, and Promising Commander. :dizzy2: Not very chivalrous, but not particularly dreadful either. If he had dread, he lost it while a governor. I'd suggest to roleplay him as you've been doing, it's been fun. :yes: A few exterminated towns or executed prisoners would set him right (err, wrong) again.
Warluster
01-11-2008, 10:00
OOC: :laugh4:
Maybe make him go through a character changing experince? I'll go with yuor suggestion; exterminate, be merciless, etc,etc. I think I might RP Religiously Proper though, could be a uh, interesting comibnation. :grin3: Next argumentThanks for finding out, if I found out later it might be a bit strange (disatorous)
Gentlemen, another season has passed. I took out a small Danish and small Russian army, retaking Pernau. Thanks to Meister Maximillian and Englishman Charles' efforts, the Lithuanians are down to two cities. They have taken a stand at Vilnius, with the army threatening Lida last season marching north to mee another of the same size. Maximillian can either take the small town to the north of it, or try to take on those Lithuanian armies.
Hochmeister Hans could march north to help Maximillian, but it would take two seasons at least, and the Mongols are snooping around Minsk.
My own Meister Karl is sailing north to take Visby. That rich trading city will help fix our funding problem, since the upkeep for the many soldiers we've needed to fight so many enemies has damaged our economy. Nonetheless, things are going well and the Lithuanians will soon be no more. After that, we can look to our other enemies.
OOC: Warluster, since you're going to be unable to play battles for a while, maybe a sub can be designated?
I'd hate to see Dietrich's behavior changed, I think he's our most colorful character! :D
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