Imperial Diet VII

[Privateerkev]

Point out the clause that makes it illegal. This is also hardly the first time a steward has been appointed. With a lack of law either prohibiting or allowing, we'll follow tradition.

No, point out the specific point that makes the Kaiser's actions legal. Unless he is using his power of legal interpretation. In that case, since it involves him, we'll need the 4 Dukes to make a ruling. Or, we could just call an emergency session, and pass a CA that allows for this possibility.

But ignoring this just doesn't seem to be an option.

Also, please point out the part of the Charter that says we can just "follow tradition".

[Ramses II CP]

I am glad that you have mentioned stewardship, as, indeed, Duke Arnold does have a steward. His name is Karl Zirn, and he is currently administering the Duke's duties, well, all of them except the Chancellorship. The Kaiser, to my knowledge, is steward only of Imperial soldiers (under Fritz's breath; certainly not steward of his wife or his tongue), and that a recently claimed and questionably legal matter in itself.

In any case if the Kaiser wished to be Chancellor he had only to run for the position openly, not scheme to take it. Surely a man of such commanding presence and authority would have won easily against a mere freehold Count such as myself.

I wish Duke Arnold godspeed in growing healthy. The Reich needs him!

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[Privateerkev]

All that we would need to solve this is an emergency session. We had one with regards to Chancellor impeachment. We had one with regards to Chancellor resignation. Now we need one with regards to Chancellor incapacitation.

I have no problem with the Kaiser being Chancellor, as long as it was legal. Since it is not legal, he needs to cease and desist from running the Reich immediately.

He has already exercised his prerogative so he can not do so twice. There is no provision in the Charter for this situation so we must create one. If people insist, I can read out the relevant parts of the Charter at length to prove that there is no law supporting the Kaiser's actions. But I don't think anyone wants that...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

All right, I think I may have something here.

Now, Sir von... uh...

...Essen! Sorry, I'm new...

Your complaint is that the Kaiser is temporarily assuming the office of Chancellor whilst Duke Arnold recuperates from whatever is ailing him, even though it says nowhere in the Charter that he can... correct?

And also that the Kaiser has already exercised his prerogative to assume an automatic Chancellorship...

Correct?

Now, however, when the Kaiser did exercise his prerogative, he did so in 1308, because the current, ah, Chancellor, had died. He did not enjoy a full 10-turn length of rule, even though ten turns is what all Kaisers are entitled to.

In my expert and infalliable legal opinion (HAH!) Elberhard still has 8 years left where he can rule and it will not be challenged by the Diet. Now, naturally, he can still use this at the beginning of a Diet session, however this would be highly impractical as we'd all need to be dragged back after his time is up to just go, pass some new laws, and elect somebody else.

Or, he could use that time piece by piece as the need arises, as is such the case here.

[Privateerkev]

And again, there is no law that specifically gives the Kaiser the right to split his prerogative. For that, we would need an emergency session in order to pass the required CA. Or, the Kaiser could "interpret" the Charter to give him a split prerogative as long as 2 Dukes agree.

Either result would allow us to be following the law. Something we are currently not doing at the moment...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

Yeah, but I don't see anywhere where it says he can't split up his prerogative either, so it's up to interpretation either way...

...but since it's the Kaiser...

Aw man, this sucks.

I don't care how this is solved, so long as we keep everything moving!

[Privateerkev]

Well, since it was Duke Arnold that handed over the reins, we could probably assume that he would give his permission for the Kaiser to interpret his prerogative this way. So, we just need one more Duke to agree to this interpretation and then it is probably all good.

I guess my problem is that we were kept in the dark. I thought the Diet was to be considered and included in decisions regarding the Charter. It even says so in my "Welcome to the Imperial Diet!" pamphlet I received.

[FactionHeir]

I am rather surprised that you would question your duke's decision to have the emperor act as his steward. Is that what you call loyalty nowadays?

Anyway, if I read the archives correctly, when the late emperor Siegfried embarked to Constantinople, Elberhard had acted as his steward for the position of chancellor and there did not seem to be much disagreement with that.

Seeing how this created a precedent, there is nothing wrong with emperor Elberhard assuming stewardship by the wishes of the current chancellor duke Arnold.

[Privateerkev]

How dare you question my loyalty to Duke Arnold!

This regards our following the law you nitwit!

As for the previous term of "Steward Elberhard", that was an obvious use of the Kaiser's prerogative. Now the current question is whether the Kaiser can split his prerogative.

It seems that all we need is another Duke to give his blessing and then the Kaiser will be able to assume the Chancellorship for the remaining balance of his "term".

And could you kindly point to the part of the Charter that says we can follow "precedent".

We're up to 5 questions now.

Is the law really that unimportant? What else can we ignore? It saddens me to see the law treated so... cavalierly...

[Cecil XIX]

The Kaiser does not need the charter's permission to do something. That would be absurd, for even if the document could be made long enough to allow for every good and wise course of action it would be too long to be of any use. Go ahead and take action if it bothers you, but know that the burden of proof rests with those who want to make change.

[Privateerkev]

I would argue that the Kaiser does need the Charter's permission to usurp a Chancellorship. If he is not elected, or not using his prerogative, the Kaiser can not just assume the position.

Or are we living in a dictatorship and no one bothered to tell me?

What if the Kaiser was less competent than the current Kaiser? Would all of you still be so complacent? I say we should be consistent with how we apply law.

[Cecil XIX]

Unless you can point to a provision in the charter outlawing the Kaiser from doing this, any use of the phrase usurpation is simply wrong.

If you think this a problem, then do something about it. Talking by itself is a waste of time.

[Privateerkev]

No Count Becker,

You have to point out the part of the Charter that says that the Kaiser can split his prerogative. I have already pointed out the relevant part that shows how we can get out of this legal mess.

As for "doing something". I have. I have called for the Dukes to make a ruling regarding whether the Kaiser can "split up" his prerogative. And I have called for an emergency session that will allow us to pass a CA that covers the possibility of Chancellor incapacitation.

There is not much else I can do outside of a Diet session other than what I am currently doing.

It seems we have just had a coup and no one seems to care.

Very curious...

[FactionHeir]

In any law, precedent does not need to be written into the law. If something happened previously and one was not reprimanded for it even though someone was able, then another can in future call onto this right of precedent.

You also seem to ignore that I pointed out the fact of his stewardship prior to Siegfried's assassination. Only after the assassination did he use his prerogative.

Regardless, the emperor decides the interpretation of the charter, and this part of the charter affects the chancellor more so than the emperor, thus giving him the authority to do as he pleases.

[Ramses II CP]

I must say, von Essen, I'm impressed. Everyone opposing you seems to be saying that if the Kaiser wanted to disband all our armies and sail off to Cyprus they'd be fine with that because it's not specifically outlawed in the Charter. What a fool's debate!

The Kaiser needs specific legal permission to take any action above his station, just as would the Dukes, Counts, and other nobles of the realm. A system in which the law must preclude every stupid act it's leaders might choose is a system destined to fail under it's own weight.

We, the nobles of the Reich, chose via vote one man to lead us and guide our nation and that man is no longer at the helm. His position has been usurped by the same man who, in his last turn at power, led us directly into the maelstrom of the cataclysm. This is madness. Wake up!

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[econ21]

Elberhard: @#$%^&!!! it - a coup my arse! A usurper, my @#$%^&!!!.

Duke Arnold is sick and asked me to look over the shop till he is better - how is that illegal, still less a coup?

I am not exercising a royal perogative - I am doing a bloke a favour.

If the Prinz or three Dukes wish to call an Emergency Session of the Diet to legislate over a chap calling in sick, be my guest.

So far, I have done precisely nothing in my capacity as "Steward" except talk some @#$%^&!!! to you lot. If you want me to stay in this sublime state of inactivity and talk more of the same, then I am quite happy to indulge you.

[TinCow]

Duke Arnold will obviously not be calling for an Emergency Session. As I trust his judgment in this matter, neither will I. Unless Duke Peter feels the need to do so with his powers as Prinz, I suggest this matter be dropped and the Diet focus its attentions on the GODDAMNED ENEMIES THAT ARE ASSAULTING THE REICH ON ALL SIDES!

[Privateerkev]

I would like it stated for the record that the Kaiser has just committed a coup. We are now being run by someone we did not elect and the law does not allow for.

I'll admit it is a kind and gentle coup but it is still a coup.

God save the Reich...

I'll go now and let others stew in that revelation. I have fighting that needs to be done. Also, it seems the Diet no longer has a purpose since the Kaiser has just usurped sole power for himself. While we couldn't have had a nicer guy doing it, I shudder at the thought of what would have happened if a less honorable and capable person had done what Elberhard just did.

von Essen leaves.

[TinCow]

*Lothar Steffen shakes his head in wonderment.*

A coup requires by nature that the man committing it seize power that is not his. Kaiser Elberhard has seized nothing! Duke Arnold gave him that power due to the exceptional circumstances of his illness. You might as well say that Stewards commit coups against their Dukes when they rule in their stead! Would you all prefer another year or two of anarchy over a minor, secretarial substitution?

*Lothar can be heard to mutter under his breath, "It is a shame that more of these 'Electors' did not perish in the previous crisis."*

[econ21]

Elberhard: @#$%^&!!! it, that's it. I will not be accused of such villainy by that prattling self-righteous youngster who is exiting this Diet so that we may all see the shaft of truth and justice radiating from his arse!

I am calling an Emergency session of the Diet! This session will be open for 24 hours.

I am proposing:

CA what the @#$%^&!!! ever: The Chancellor can appoint a Steward should he temporarily be unable to attend to his duties.

Later, I will probably have to propose Charter Amendments allowing the Chancellor to defecate, procreate and pick his nose but one thing at a time, eh?

Once I get two seconders, I will immediately put it to a vote which will be open for 24 hours. As a result, the vote may well run concurrently with the Diet session, so if you wish to hear what other pearls of wisdom will emanate from the mouths of Fritz and Essen, then wait a while before voting.

I will say this however - if anyone attempts to use this session to prevent Chancellor Arnold from resuming his duties once he is fighting fit, then you will see what it is like when a Kaiser abuses his position!

You can now talk amongst yourselves. Let's hope our enemies spend this time doing the same.

The Kaiser follows Essen outside the Chamber, although his shieldbearer manages to divert him from following the youngster's path once he exits the hall.

[FactionHeir]

Somewhat bedazzled by Elberhard's colorful language and line of thought

Err so is this an emergency session now and the CA proposed?
Hmm if it is, then I do second the proposed motion...if not, then I need a good night's sleep!

[TinCow]

I second it as well. Close the Emergency Session, begin the vote, and let's be done with this farce.

[gibsonsg91921]

Ha. If Duke Arnold says it, let it be done. If he didn't really say it, we'll find out some way or another, but I'd rather have some manner of order.

Ironic - accusing the Kaiser of staging a coup for a lesser position? Such a situation would be laughable. Perhaps the Kaiser's authority is waning.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

Excellent, does this mean we can get back to fighting?

[Stuperman]

Von Essen, one would have to be accepting payments from the halfbreed Greeks or the in bed with the french to introduce such a manufactured political scandal in times like these, are you mad? or just a traitor?

[Privateerkev]

Hearing of the Emergency Session, von Essen returns

Fred, you can kindly go !@#$ yourself you stupid !@#$.

All I wanted was the law to be followed. Nothing more. I have said multiple times that I have no problem with the Kaiser. Personally, I like the guy. But, what he was doing was illegal.

If we give up our laws, then the Greeks have truly won. I'm glad to see that is not the case... yet...

[TinCow]

That is a... curious statement, Dieter. If I remember correctly, the reason the Greeks did not succeed in taking over the entire Reich was because several Electors, namely Peter von Kastilien, Tancred von Tyrolia, and Dietrich von Dassel, chose to break the law and attack Constantinople and Durazzo. Had they obeyed the law and not committed to those attacks, we would surely be ruled by the Byzantine Emperor.

[Privateerkev]

I was young or not even born when those events happened.

Sure, breaking the law worked but I am sure a better way could have been found that was legal. To me, breaking the law just shows a lack of imagination.

It's the Greeks who break laws. One of the millions of reasons why they are not fit to rule the lands they govern. We're better than that. And our willingness to admit a mistake, open an emergency session, and change the law to accommodate a terrible situation proves it.

Now if someone can please help get me to Outremer, I can personally help remove some provinces from Greek control.

[econ21]

Elberhard walks into the Diet, face swollen and eyes blackened - presumably from struggling with the mountain of orders sent to the Chancellor's office.

Elberhard: Dieter, believe me it would give me great pleasure to put you on a boat and send you to Outremer.

However, you have just been appointed commander of one of the Austrian Household Armies. Maximillan von Hapsburg is your second in command, but is currently on reserve duty. I suggest it might be best to wait for his return to active duty before @#$%^&!!!ing off.

[Privateerkev]

I am going to assume you meant it would give you "great pleasure" because you would be sending such a qualified person over to the Levant.

But, since you earlier brought up me arse, I shudder at the idea of what gives you "great pleasure".

So, please send me when the situation warrants.

And next time, try not to take legal debate so !@#$ing personal will you?

Jeez...

[econ21]

Elberhard: My God, you insufferable little @#$%^&!!! - you accuse your Kaiser of being an usurper, of committing a coup and then admonish him for taking it "personally"?!

Go to your army, soldier! I will attend to your transfer when you are relieved of your current command. The timing of that relief is entirely a matter for the Steward of Austria - or the Duke, when he recovers.

[Privateerkev]

Dieter shrugs

Your the one that was checking out me arse. I point you to this:


@#$%^&!!! it, that's it. I will not be accused of such villainy by that prattling self-righteous youngster who is exiting this Diet so that we may all see the shaft of truth and justice radiating from his arse!

I suppose "the shaft of truth and justice" is what you call your elephantine sex organ these days. But could you at least attempt to stop fantasizing about it going in and out of me arse? I know you were on that ship a long time but jeez...

It seems we did take a lesson from the Greeks after all...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen sits quietly throughout the exchange, his expression changing from one of glee to exasperation as the bickering continues.

[econ21]

Elberhard: My God, the boy even cites the Diet record to fish for comments on his arse! Well, I suspect this may be a better use of your formidable forensic talents than your pitiful attempts so far at law.

Dieter von Essen, if you truly wish me to meditate on the nature of your arse, I could oblige you. I would of course start by observing that it is where most of your pronouncements seem to emanate. However, I do feel that a prolonged discourse on this subject would not be in the best interests of the Reich.

I suggest we let the subject drop or I will be forced to ban us both from this place.

[Privateerkev]

While I agree that it would be quite improper to continue discussing my beautiful backside, I will point out that my "pitiful" attempt at law was actually successful. I pointed out an oversight, and then got the entire bureaucracy of the Reich to correct it. A good day's work if I do say so myself.

Now if your done showing all of us how big and strong you are, I have an army to run.

[econ21]

...time passes ....

[econ21]

Diet Speaker: Electors! I regret to inform you that Kaiser Elberhard has fallen retaking Bologna. Prinz Peter von Kastilien is now King of the Romans. The Kaiser is dead - long live the Kaiser!

[Privateerkev]

Dieter just sits there in shock. He turns away and hopes no one notices the tears streaming down his face.

[TinCow]

*Lothar Steffen sits quietly for a moment, deep in thought. Eventually he sighs, shakes his head slightly, and gives a chuckle that is half amusement, half annoyance. He slowly rises and draws his sword. The Duke of Bavaria stands the weapon on end, and bends to one knee, facing in the direction of Peter von Kastilien.*

The Kaiser is dead. Long live the Kaiser.

*As Lothar Steffen retakes his seat, he can be heard to mutter, "Five bloody Kaisers is too many for one man's lifetime."*

[Cecil XIX]

Edmund lowers his head in silent mourning.

[Warluster]

Duke von Salza stands and also bows low, before quickly standing

A true shame when late Kaiser Elberhard dies only just when the Reich is starting to reform. It is good though, he died in a siege of such a city, and his death will contribute to the overall peace of the Reich.

Long live Kaiser Peter!

Duke von Salza sits and quickly speaks to two messengers who sprint off, and the DUke is left sitting peacefully.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

Kaiser Elberhard...

...dead...

...

*#%!

I suppose a eulogy is required in these occasions, but judging by the lack of them so far in the Diet's response, the burden falls on me. Those who knew him best that had a voice in this body are dead as well.

Kaiser Elberhard of the Reich, son of Henry, brother of Hans, wife of Linyeve, father of Hugo and Eue, grandson of Heinrich. He spent the first part of his career in the Outremer, carving out a frontier for Christianity in the Holy Land and later spending his time defending it. He ascended to the throne during a period of great trial, and did his best to hold the Reich together. He is to be commended for this effort, as lesser men would have given up facing lesser adversity.

[Ramses II CP]

For all our squabbles the man was as fine a warrior as the Reich has ever known, and he met his end nobly leading an army of the Reich to victory over her hated foes. God save the Kaiser!

God save Peter von Kastilien, Emperor of the Reich!

Fritz von Kastilien

OOC: Who in the name of **** is going to lead the chivalrous characters now? Zirn is 62(?) and Elberhard is dead. Are we really going to become a pack of wolves, because Fritz might love that but it doesn't sound quite so enticing to me. :p

My sympathies Econ, Elberhard was a fun character. :2thumbsup:

:egypt:

[deguerra]

My sincerest condolences to his family.

Der Kaiser ist tot, es lebe der Kaiser!

OOC: Bloody well done, econ21, I only saw Eberhardt in a brief period of time, but he was an immensely enjoyable character to watch and interact with!!

[Northnovas]

The old elector walks to the floor. The sad news reflects on his face and body language...

Noblemen of the Reich,

We have lost a good man. He was not only my King he was my comrade, where status means little to brothers in arms. The Outremer was our battlefield and we were there for God's purpose. There has been so much against the Reich in these past decades and when we look to go forward calamity continues strikes futher. Are we God's choosen? Where have we gone wrong?

Karl looks around at the each man sitting before continuing...

I will tell you, are words to do not fit our actions! We say that we will be a righteous nation and yet do deeds that are not. We even try to write into law a noble deed but how many will truly follow it, finding some loophole?
If our Kaiser can be taken so quickly from us who is next??

With a shrug

I guess it could be me but I have led a full life trying to set an example for my family and my countrymen. Look at yourselves and take this time to reflect on what kind of men you wish to be and what kind of nation you wish to live in? Let us demonstrate to our enemies that we are not the wolves they label us but men faith, mercy and strength.

Long live Kaiser Elberhard! He who is finally at peace.

Turning to the new Kaiser.. A deep bow in the only way an old man can

Kaiser Peter von Kastilien, long may you reign with God's grace. My House pledges our allegiance and obedience to you.

[Stuperman]

Kaiser Elberhard, May his death not be in vain, He has paid the ulitmate sacrifice the first gains in Italy in 50 years, he inherited a broken nation, and despite a religious war that would have beaten a lesser man and destroyed a lesser Nation, He died with the Riech at it's most powerful in Decades.

I Hearby swear utter and total loyalty to you Kaiser Peter von Kastilien

[gibsonsg91921]

Kaiser Elberhard is a true hero of the Reich, regardless of past actions and efforts for unification. He is a valiant warrior, one of the greatest generals, and a beacon of chivalry. Rest in peace, friend.

[Zim]

A letter arrives from Outremer.
I have heard rumors that our illustrious Kasier died in battle. If true, we have lost a great man today. I pray those of us who remain will follow the example of the Kaiser, and devote their lives to the Reich.

Long live Kaiser Peter.

Andreas von Salzgitter.

OOC: Well, Andreas and Ruppel are the oldest Chivalrous characters left (barring Zirn), so I guess that makes them the leaders in charge of supporting a Chivalrous Reich. God help us. :clown:



OOC: Who in the name of **** is going to lead the chivalrous characters now? Zirn is 62(?) and Elberhard is dead. Are we really going to become a pack of wolves, because Fritz might love that but it doesn't sound quite so enticing to me. :p

My sympathies Econ, Elberhard was a fun character. :2thumbsup:

:egypt:

[_Tristan_]

Hugo de Cervole's is a mask, his features bearing the marks of deep mourning as he rises to speak before the Lords assembled.

I mourn for the loss of Kaiser Elberhard who made of me what I am now an Elector of the Reich when I was nothing more than a French renegade.

I wish I could have proven to him that he made a good choice but that is not to be...

Perhaps he will watch over the Reich from on high and so I will try to live up to the standards he set for the Reich...

For the once, I pledge my sword and my life to Kaiser Peter...

Long live the Kaiser

Hugo resumes his seat, tears beginning to stream down his cheeks.

[OverKnight]

A letter arrives from Outremer.

My fellow Electors,

It is with great sadness that I heard of Kaiser Elberhard's death in battle. Through his sacrifice, Bologna, the oldest Italian possession in the Reich was returned to us, but that does not even begin to balance the scales. The Kaiser died as he lived, doing what he thought was right, selflessly and with no regard for the danger to himself, thinking only of his duty.

Before he was Kaiser, before he was even Prinz, Elberhard was a young Crusader in Outremer. He emerged from his father Henry's long shadow at the battles surrounding the seizure of Edessa. He fought valiantly and with great success against Mongols and Egyptians. Sultans and Khans fell before his blade and Jerusalem had no greater protector.

His naming as Prinz was unexpected, his rise to Kaiser even more so. Assuming the Crown after Siegfried's death, he was honor bound to follow a legacy he did not want and tasks he did not ask for. Undaunted he took them on, and he suffered for it. Others felt honor bound to oppose Siegfried's legacy, and when those two forces collided, the Reich crumbled.

I was one of those who opposed Unification, I defied his will by clinging to Adana. And when Nikeforos took me, the Kaiser could have looked away. He could have left me to rot as a rebel. But he did not. He let Jan von Hamburg and an army push north to rescue me. He accepted me back into the fold, gave me an army and let me fight by his side.

Honor and duty called him back to Europe after a few years. He wished to save his brother, to reunify and heal the Reich. Yet when his voyage was finished, his brother and all the other leaders of the Swabian Civil War were dead. I can only imagine his fury and frustration. Yet what did he do? A lesser man might have pursued those he thought responsible for the fratricide. Purged those he thought disloyal. But Kaiser Elberhard was better than that, he knew pursuing a vendetta would only plunge the Reich further into darkness. He named a man his heir who had rebelled against him to heal this rift. He rallied us all and went after the real enemies of the Reich. He did what he thought was right, without regard for his own safety or selfish desires, and he died in that pursuit of honor and duty.

How many of us would have done the same to preserve the Reich? We may well find out in the coming years. May his example show us the way to rebirth, to a Reich worthy of survival. May God grant him Grace, and us as well.

Long live Kaiser Peter von Kastilien, Outremer is his to command.

Matthias Steffen

[gibsonsg91921]

My friends, the death of our Steward is saddening indeed, none less because it was our great Kaiser Elberhard. The Imperial Secretariat (OOC: econ) will continue to run day-to-day business of the Reich because according to our Imperial physicians, Duke Arnold will make a full recovery within the next year. (OOC: AG will be back jan. 2)

[econ21]

Diet Speaker: As stated by the our glorious new Kaiser, the Imperial Secretariat craves the indulgence of the Diet to be allowed to manage the day to day business of the Reich. Duke Arnold remains in a delirium and cannot name a new Steward. However, his prognosis is good and the Secretariat is required only to administer the Reich without him for this current year, 1246.

If any of our resident lawyers wish to contest this, we can call another Emergency Session of the Diet and have another vote.

OOC: The alternative is to pause the game until 2 January - it's not worth installing another player just for one turn IMO.

[Ramses II CP]

Kaiser Peter, my brother, I have but recently heard of your intentions to march to Bologna to take command of the Imperial army there. I do not mean to belittle the importance of the Italian front, but I feel I must point out that the state of Swabia is now so dire that Frankfurt itself is potentially exposed to assault from the west. It would be terrible for Franconia to have closed the northern front just in time to open a western one.

To my eyes it appears that Bavaria now has sufficient armies to carry forward the offensive against the Byzantines, especially in light of the advance of (OOC: Prinz?) Dieter von Kassel from the south. I would propose that Swabia is in far greater need of Imperial aid, and that in so aiding our brothers Franconia could also be warded against another two front war. The the armed forces of Franconia have been terribly reduced by driving away the Danes, and I do not see how we could hold against the French at Frankfurt and the Poles at Madgeburg both unless your forces, Kaiser Peter, are used to aid us.

Perhaps call the Imperial cavalry to your side and leave the Imperial foot to aid the Italian advance.

Also before I leave Arhus I would appreciate it if my bombard crew could be replenished, and perhaps some gunpowder troops trained (No hurry unless I'm going to be needed at Frankfurt; I'm content to sit at Arhus for a few turns and rebuild) for my army. I have also considered building a fort on one of the islands southeast of Arhus to slow any potential Danish assault from that direction.

I am deeply concerned about this plague out of the east. What measures could be taken to prevent our armies being weakened by it? This is not my area of expertise.

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[gibsonsg91921]

For the plague, all generals should stay out of cities as it hits. Stay away from the hotbeds of infestation.

The situation in Swabia is indeed dire, brother. I shall indeed go to Italy and regain the multitude of lost Imperial territory. However, the treasury you have earned in the sack of Arhus could be sufficient in recruitment of large armies for the benefit of Swabia. Staufen still is subject to plague. If forces from Magdeburg and Innsbruck could be recruited quickly, perhaps Swabia may be saved.

I leave for Italy with naught but my feudal retinue - the other troops in the former Prinz's Army may be of assistance in Swabia.

These options, coupled with the valiance of Duke Athalwolf and his men, could yet win the day. The first target I recommend is Caen or Angers - a stable Citadel is necessary as long as Staufen is plagued.

[FactionHeir]

In a move that seems completely out of character, Ehrhart Ruppel slams his fist onto the nearest bench, sending a loud hallowing noise through the diet hall

Why must another great man of the empire fall yet again? How is it that those most valiant and noble leaders of our empire fall oh so much faster and in greater numbers?

Emperor Elberhard was a great mentor, leader and friend. I sincerely pray for his family that had lost a husband, father and brother. He may have been out only hope....

Nevertheless, I shall honor his will and hereby bow to the new emperor, Peter von Kastilien!

[gibsonsg91921]

I would request of Duke Dieter Bresch of Franconia that the maximum number of Teutonic Knights be recruited from Frankfurt and donated to Swabia for their efforts against the French.

OOC: I'll duplicate this post for the Orders and Reports Thread.

[Warluster]

Duke von Salza hears of Kaiser Peter's march to Italy, and at once stands, eyes narrowing

I will have to agree with Count Fritz, we are need not of donations, we received many of that from the late Kaiser, but armies. The SHA, the only one we have, is understregth. It can only block the bridge to Staufen, while Bruges, Antwerp and Frankfurt lay open.

I have some 500 soldiers, and that is all I can muster to take Dijon. The French have huge armies heading to Bruges and Staufen, the Swabian capital. There is another huge French army down south.

The Bavarians are capable commanders, and they have strong armies to counter most threats. Bavaria has cities capable of producing very good units, while Swabia is reduced to some three cities.

The Knights are welcomed, mein Kaiser, but we need much more. Unfortunely, compared to other suich houses, every single one of our cities are under immediate threat of being destroyed. Bavaria has legs now, its not like back in 1320 when the Greeks were coming up Italy.

Duke von Salza stares at his new Kaiser, hoping he got the message through, then sits, and tunrs around and says something to Count Ludwig, then stares at the Kaiser.

[gibsonsg91921]

It is true that due to the recent assaults of the late Kaiser Elberhard and Duke Lothar Steffen, the Greeks are crippled.

However, I still need to unite with the Kaiser's old army before I go to Swabia. I shall put off my return to Rome and instead forge a path to Swabia as soon as those forces are my own.

[deguerra]

Indeed I am with my Duke fully on this matter. I have held Bruges against one French attack, but the troops were hardly the cream of the crop. My walls are still broken, and my men are still depleted without reinforcements. Any help you can send is much appreciated, and I am immensely grateful for the knights you have sent. But if we are to be sure of victory, we will need as much as we can muster, or may the Lord have mercy on our souls.

[gibsonsg91921]

Indeed. I hope Bavaria can arrange for safe passage of the late Elberhard's army to me - I shall march south with my retinue to meet with it as it marches north to reduce the time it takes. I authorize Duke Lothar to take command of one regiment of his choosing from that army to assist in his efforts - I reccommend the powerful Gothic Knights.

[FactionHeir]

Ehrhart Ruppel strides into the Diet with a grin

My Lords, I present you... Dijon.
The French noble governing our rightful province was arrogant or foolish enough to have his men camp outside the city rather than garrison it and has paid with his life after being defeated by me in single combat.

While Dijon has been reclaimed, it is anything but safe. The walls are damaged from the previous assault by the French and it stands without any garrison.
However, the men are still loyal to the empire and many have asked to enlist in the local militia. I ask permission to order repair of its walls and recruitment of additional militia at once.

For the moment, I shall remain encamped inside Dijon as no less than four French armies patrol the region and many of my men are too tired to continue back towards Bern, which is under threat by a large contigent of an army composed wholly of veteran French Lancers.

I pray that Duke von Salza can hold them with aid of the SHA I left him and most of my levy.

Now if you excuse me, I have a city to rebuild.

Exits

[Stuperman]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1792447&postcount=227

The Hungarian Scum have been run off, although they ran west, the fools, so I suspect it won't be the last time We see them. They were ransomed for nearly 3400 Florins, The imperial treasury now stands at almost 29,000 Florins. I had to leave a half strength unit of Spearman in Innsbruck to maintain some semblance of order.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

Right...

Cataclysm, regicide, enemies on all sides making gains, political fracture, civil war...

...Black Death...

I know it's not an Emergency Session, and I don't want one, but can we please get something passed that says that next year is 1400? I mean, this century's really sucked so far and we're only halfway through it.

[Cecil XIX]

It is with deep sadness that I learn of the passing of Karl Zirn. He was an immenesly honorable man, with a record of service to the Reich that cannot be questioned. His service will be missed.

[Ramses II CP]

Karl Zirn's long service to the Reich carried through every moment of his life, and though I may have often disagreed with his methods I cannot question his results. It is a sad day for the Reich, and a time of mourning for us all.

As one generation steps down, the next must step up. Increasingly the Reich must rely on the younger generation. I urge those men to stand strong in the face of whatever calamities may come; lately this plague and God knows what next.

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[_Tristan_]

An emissary wearing a red-crossed white tabard arrives from the Legion der Krone and reads from a letter.

My Lords,

I wish to express my most heartfelt thanks to the Kaiser for the immense honour done to me in trusting me with the command of the Legion der Krone for the once.

According to orders, I will lead those men to fight the French in Swabia or join with Kaiser Peter's army, whichever makes most sense at this time.

I am glad to finally be of use to my new country and hope to be still more in the near future.

Hugo de Cervole.

The emissary then folds back the letter and departs.

[OverKnight]

A message arrives from Adana.


Electors,

These are dark times, it seems as if all we do is write eulogies. Karl Zirn was a great man, a Chivalrous Crusader, a fierce General, a loyal and competent son of Austria and he was my friend.

He came to the attention of the Reich when he married Meckil, Duke Leopold's daughter. He took the Cross in the second Crusade and fought in the assault on Damascus. He became the Count of the city, it's first and only ruler for Outremer and the Reich. The Cathedral Karl built there, however brief its existence, was a shining testament to his piety and devotion to the people he governed.

Count Zirn gained notoriety when he led the campaign to conquer the then Turkish city of Iconium. He also protected Damascus against multiple attacks from the Saracens. As Chancellor, when I looked for a leader for the Third Crusade, Karl Zirn was an easy choice. His retaking of Jerusalem helped erase the blight on our honor when we allowed the Egyptians to take the city.

In Austria's time of need, he returned home. His valiant defense of Austria's eastern frontier after the loss of much of its soldiers at Bucharest gave hope to a battered Duchy. His defiant and inspired leadership ensured that the Hungarian onslaught was blunted and eventually stopped short of Vienna and Zagreb. Even now, due to him, the reconquest of Budapest draws closer.

I will miss Karl Zirn. May Johann, his eldest son, carry on his legacy of duty, honor and chivalry.

Viceroy Matthias Steffen

[gibsonsg91921]

Karl Zirn was a great commander, a chivalrous man, and a very pious man. He was one of the most important assets of Outremer and when he came home, one of the most important assets of Austria. May he rest in peace.

[AussieGiant]

OOC: (I'm ignoring the fact I have the plague IC or at least that it would be stupid to walk into the Diet when you have it. I hope that's ok with everyone as trying to be the chancellor by correspondence would be crazy)

There are three slow but very loud knocks on the Diet Chambers massive doors. They echo for some moments before the Speak of the Chamber intones:

The Chamber welcomes the duly elected Chancellor of the Holy Roman Empire, Duke Arnold of Austria!!!

The doors swing open to reveal the Duke covered in his traditional Obsidian Black armour and the familiar figures of his retinue arrayed behind him.

The group moves into the chamber with the Duke heading straight for the chambers centre. Once he arrives he stops, then begins pacing the chamber floor and placing his hands behind his back as he surveys the nobles in attendance.

The only sign of his ordeal are the dark shadows under his eyes and the streaks of silver gray hair that now line his temples.

My Lords!!!

His voice cracks across the room like a shell from a cannon.

It is with great regret that I stand here having left the service of this Reich while I was struck down by this plague we are enduring. I am currently in remission and am now able to fully discharge my duties to the Reich.

Since I have been away men have died, our war fronts have expanded in some areas and the treasury has increased nicely.

I see that my unplanned departure from the position of Chancellor prompted another Emergency session, which thankfully received the answer that was necessary at the time.

I mourn the loss of Kaiser Elberhard. He was a great man and someone that stood by his convictions no matter what the circumstances, and even though we were polar opposites I will always remember him for that.

My friend and brother in law Karl Zirn...

The Duke stops his pacing to gaze at the floor remembering various instances

he was family, and as such his wife, my sister and their children will be under my care until I depart from this earth.

He will be dearly missed in Austria as a noble who put duty and sacrifice above all else. His experience and leadership will be greatly missed in these times of trouble.

Gazing around the room making eye contact with as many nobles as he can the Duke's eyes flash with anger and conviction.

I'm taking back control of the Chancellorship and the governing of this Empire, any man that has a problem with this should make himself heard now in this chamber!!

Glancing at the newly appointed Kaiser Peter the Duke bows.

Long live Kaiser Peter. I swear my fealty to you and Prinz Dieter.

[Northnovas]

Johann Zirn:

My Kaiser and Noblemen of the Reich,

The Zirn Family thanks you for the kind words of our father. I wish to declare my service to the Kaiser and hope that I can follow in the servitude of my father for the Reich.

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor:

Clearly frustrated at a number of issues being replayed to him Arnold holds a familiar battle field report. They are all marked with a red seal so they are easy to identify.

I'm not going to wait for the full report from von Luxemburg simply because the Kaiser has confirmed the crushing victory he has inflicted on the Poles threatening our Capital.

Considering the position of Chancellor is entirely about rules and the ability to best ignore them, I duly proclaim von Luxemburg a Knight of this Reich!!

Well done and keep up the good work...I actually might have to create some "Royal Protectorate" position for you boy!!!

Glancing at a number of official's the Chancellor mumbles something about looking into it

[gibsonsg91921]

I, Péter von Kastilien, with all of the electors as my witness, hereby name Dieter von Kassel to be my Prinz. Despite his father's actions, he has proved his loyalty and has exemplary skill on the battlefield. He has fought heroically in Outremer and in Italy, and he has no enemies. He is the perfect candidate for Prinz.

[Ferret]

Congratulations Dieter! You truly have earned the honour.

[AussieGiant]

Arnold:

Standing the fatigued Chancellor is clearly in a foul mood. Waving away his Priest he stands.

Yes well done Dieter...inheriting the throne of this nation seems like a crap shoot to me, but who am I to judge.

Staring in the direction of the Franconian benches Arnold continues with some degree of sarcasm.

Lords of Franconia, I'm sure the facilities in Magdeburg are to your liking. Most Citadel's these days are far removed from the rudimentary hovel's I once new.

May I enquirer as to when anyone intends to leave said location?

I believe the siege is going to break some world record soon and I can't help but notice now that I've been Chancellor for 8 years...THAT THE ENITRE GODDAMN REGION IS ENTIRELY SCREWED BECAUSE OF THIS £$%£ING SITUATION!!

Smiling in an enormous effort to remain civil the Chancellor takes a seat.

The floor is yours gentlemen, I'd like some response if it doesn't inconvenience any card games being played out there.

[Ferret]

We simply lack the forces to break the siege. I have insufficient men to sally but can hold at the walls should they attack. Fritz has enough enemies to deal with in the North and cannot spare the time to attack the besiegers. So unless you can pop an army out of nowhere Arnold we can do nothing but wait until we are forced to act.

(OOC: I only just found out it is under siege, I better look at the save)

[AussieGiant]

OOC: Well the AI just attacked so your in the defensive battles list EF.

IC:

The Chancellor

Excellent Duke Bresch, I can already see that.

Mind you I have reports from around the area that the Poles seem to be making preparations for an assault. Maybe this will all be over sooner than I thought.

The malevolent glint in his eye is clear for all to see.

Thanks christ for that...the entire front has been hamstrung since Magdeburg was sieged.

[flyd]

Chancellor Arnold, I'm glad you're well. You may have missed it while reviewing the events during your sickness, but the original Polish army was destroyed, and the citadel was immediately besieged by another army. I assure you that our army at Magdeburg, which would have been considered modern in the 12th century, was hardly capable of taking on the first enemy army in the open field, which held overwhelming cavalry superiority, a superiority in numbers, and contained some rather nasty 9-flag foot knights. The walls of Magdeburg were essential in the defense with what resources were available at the time.

[TinCow]

*A Bavarian Messenger enters with a letter from Duke Lothar Steffen.*


Electors of the Reich, this evening I will be riding into battle against a Byzantine army that outnumbers my own force by three to one. I wish to contrast my stand in face of these odds with the decision of our own Kaiser to withdraw his powerful army from Bologna. This move has doomed Bologna, the city that Kaiser Elberhard died to protect, it has endangered the life of Friedrich Karolinger, it risks the security of Bavaria, and it has also removed any prospect whatsoever of recovering the Imperial Capital of Rome. All of this in order to send help to Swabia which will be irrelevant by the time it arrives.

I understand the plight of the Swabians and I sympathize with it, but the circumstances are grim for all Houses. Bavaria is under assault by three full armies and a fourth stands ready to march on us as well. The quality and composition of these armies are no less dangerous than those that face our western brethren. Bologna is certain to fall. Milan will likely fall as well if Bavaria does not receive aid. Were the Kaiser's army located in Swabia already, I would not even raise this issue, but the fact is that Kaiser Elberhard brought it to Italy with the express purpose of aiding the war effort in Italy. All of the plans and efforts of Bavaria have been based on the assumption that this army would be marching by our side. Now that it has been withdrawn, we once again face a full flight into the Alps with nothing but Innsbruck remaining secure.

I have been informed that the Kaiser's army has already marched a great distance away from Italy. What is done is done and we will have to live with it, however foolish and wasteful it may be. That said, there is still time for Kaiser Peter to show that he retains the wisdom and foresight of his predecessor. I ask of you, Kaiser Peter, as a fellow German, for the sake of the women and children of Milan, allow your army to march south to its aid. Together with the army of Fredericus Erlach, that city can be saved at little cost. Without your aid, all of Italy may fall.

I know that there has been bad blood between us over the past years. You believe me to be an evil and spiteful man. Perhaps I am, but if you ignore the plight of the innocent people of Milan because of a personal vendetta, you will be no better than I am. Show that you are a noble and honorable Kaiser, and that you protect the lives of all of your vassals. Divert your army to Milan, which is already nearby. After the battle there, continue on towards Swabia and I will express no complaints. This is a small thing that I ask of you, but it will mean a great deal to every Bavarian. The issue in Swabia will be decided one way or another before your army arrives anyway. A delay of a year or two will make no difference, but it will make all the difference in Bavaria. At least allow your army to take the field in a place where it can be of immediate use. Extend a hand of friendship to Bavaria and you will see one reaching back towards you.

Lothar Steffen
Duke of Bavaria

[Ramses II CP]

I must further rise a bit in defense of my Franconian brethern to say that while I was out driving back the Danes (And burning through one of our household armies) I could not have made any advances without Madgeburg steadfast at my back. Nothing would give me more pleasure than to drive on Breslau and butcher the Poles, but the state of our forces has not yet allowed for that possibility. Perhaps if the Danish assault which I fear is coming can be destroyed then the northern flank will be quiet long enough to secure Breslau and press back the Poles.

I had hoped when I signed my ceasefire with the Russians, so long ago, that the Poles would look north and realize how exposed and strung out the Russians are, but it has not happened yet. Indeed, I forwarded some suggestions on the subtle weakening of Russian control of Stettin not so long ago in this very room (Or the O&R thread maybe; send in the priests to keep religion Catholic and a spy to reduce order) that might work to expose their weakness. If the Polish pressure relented just a bit I believe any Franconian noble to be more than capable of retaking Breslau.

My Chancellor I follow the intent of your remarks, but I do not believe the men at Madgeburg have been overly cautious.

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[gibsonsg91921]

Let it be known that the Legion der Krone make a brief return to Italy to save Milan and Bavaria.

I regret having left so soon - conditions for Bavaria were much more promising when I left, but the Byzantines, as if assisted by higher powers, seem to produce veteran armies out of nowhere. At the time that I left, Swabia was in even greater need than Bavaria. However, the French have not proceeded in their assaults and the Greeks have. Hindsight is clear.

I shall return, and Hugo de Cervole, my new right-hand, shall join me if he wishes. Ehrhart Ruppel shall indeed receive his ribaults to combat the lancers. Bavaria will not fall.

[TinCow]

*Another letter arrives from Duke Lothar.*


Kaiser Peter,

You have my thanks. I made a private agreement with Kaiser Elberhard that Nuremburg would be under Imperial control to act as the Imperial capital until such a time as Rome is returned to the Reich. That was a personal agreement between two nobles and was not codified by law. However, I wish to proclaim that so long as I draw breath, I will honor this pledge to Kaiser Peter as well. I do this as a gesture of goodwill, not only to the Kaiser, with whom I have had past difficulties, but also to all citizens of the Reich.

If the Reich is to survive, it will be through brotherhood and mutual assistance. Let it be known that Bavaria will not put her own salvation above those of other Houses. As soon as Bavaria is secure and her armies strong enough to hold her borders without outside assistance, I will immediately direct all further Bavarian resources to aiding any other House that remains on the defensive. I will not turn to the offensive while French armies continue to push deeper into Swabia. If Swabia is not in need of Bavarian aid at that time, then I offer it also to Franconia and Austria. Bavaria remains, as always, committed to the prosperity of the entire Reich, not just her own lands and peoples. Indeed, if Bavarian aid is required elsewhere, I will personally march to the front lines with any Elector whose vassals are threatened.

Long Live the Kaiser!
Love Live the Reich!

Lothar Steffen
Duke of Bavaria

[gibsonsg91921]

And I promise that if Rome isn't ours once I go to Milan and Swabia, I will personally return it to our control so Nuremburg can go back to Bavaria.

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor looks one way at Duke Lothar and the Bavarian benches, then the other way at the Kaiser's throne as the agreement plays out before him.

Finally, now the agreement seems to be complete he abruptly stands and turns to the officers making up the Imperial Messenger Service.

The Chancellors face turns livid as he roars vile filth and spite at the poor fellows nearest him

"£$%$ing JESUS "£^£$ING CHRIST!!!

Tell that French maniac to turn that £$^£$ing army around if it would so please him...

AND head back down through the Alps to northern Italy!!!!

Tell him to pick up some £$%£$ing red wine while he's down there and send it too me immediately upon his arrival near Milan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Throwing a leather bound imperial messenger satchel at the nearest officer the Chancellor then turns to the Kaiser and Duke Lothar, bows deeply before continuing in a vaguely civil fashion.

Would the gentlemen in question have a preference on which mountain pass said army should return to the Bavarian war theater? I wouldn't want to balls THAT UP AS WELL!

The Dread Duke's glare is interrupted by the raised eyebrow which turns the sentence into an actual question rather than statement.

[TinCow]

*A Bavarian military advisor stands up.*

M'lord, I believe that the fastest route for that army to get to Milan would be via the pass that leads directly north from the city. If the Kaiser's army marches via that route and Count Erlach's army marches directly west towards Milan, they should both arrive before the French army can assault.

[AussieGiant]

Without standing the Chancellor glares at the Bavarian military advisor for a few moments as a cat might look at a mouse, finally he adds

You know, I think I could use you in Ragusa.

Glancing back at the Dread Knight

Bane, go and speak to Lothar will you, ask him if this fellow over there could be relieved of his position, for....lets say two years.

Snapping off a salute the Dread Knights helm turns briefly in the direction of the Bavarian advisor for a second before he heads off calling for his horse.

(I wish I could get away with having a white fluffy cat in the crook of my arm while I'm playing Arnold as Chancellor, LMAO)

[_Tristan_]

An emissary arrives from the Legion der Krone, bearing a letter from Hugo de Cervole.

Mon Empereur, I will go wherever you want me to, be it Swabia, Italy or the end of the World...

I head back to Italy with the Legion immediately.

Yours faithfully,

Hugo de Cervole

[AussieGiant]

An overly exaggerated eye roll is the response from the Chancellor.

A bit over the top with the "end of the world" stuff, but good to see communications are still working.

[Ferret]

we have at last broken the siege mein Chancellor:
https://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1594/kotrli7.th.jpg (https://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kotrli7.jpg)

Lukas, well done lad you've earned your spurs. He managed to sally out and stop the enemy ram reaching the gates twice and only lost one man! The lad is a darn good fighter.

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor glances up from a stack of papers, stands abruptly and slams his fist on the bench in front of himself.

YES!!

Well done Bresch!!!

Now we can stick it straight down the throats of those goddamn Polish goat herders!!

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor

My Lords,

I wish to briefly address the issue of the Black Death and quarantine.

I will do everything in my power to prevent nobles of this Reich from contracting the disease, BUT it is extremely infectious and it does spread of it's own accord.

The main issue I face it that our Regiments do not necessarily show any sign of infection once they have left their recruiting grounds. Plus the only way to determine if they are infected once they are in the field is to keep track of where they were recruited from in the first place.

Therefore I hope you can all understand my position should anyone become infected by mistake.

[AussieGiant]

Arnold:

I get the impression this chamber is devoid of any life for the moment. I guess the Black Death is something to fearful of.

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor

I hope everyone realises that ALL our Citadel's are infected. If you want to remain free from infection then you can fight with your bloody hands and fists!!

We don't have enough money to use mercenaries.

[Cecil XIX]

Edmund Becker walks morosely into the Diet.

My Lords, Prague is relieved. The enemy fought like Demons, and I have a new-found appreciation for the men who have had to fight such armies.

Edmund sighs, and lower his head.

I myself can only barely defeat them... I was forced to wait until the setting of the sun and allow the Pole's infantry to withdraw. And Lorenz...

...

Lorenz Zirn is dead. He fought well, assaulting the enemy from behind. But the enemy refused to break.

Edmund quickly shuffles around and exits the Diet.

[gibsonsg91921]

Lorenz Zirn was too young and eager to die. He died a hero's death, however. Ironic - he refused to leave the plague but died in battle anyways. May he rest in peace - his energy long defended Austria from her foes.

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor stares hard at the departing figure of Becker.

Standing slowly he addresses the chamber.

From what I have read the field report indicates Lord Becker's defense was exemplary.

Lorenz was always my most aggressive commander and I respected him for that. He held his own safety in little regard when facing the enemy and for that he should be commended. Both the Poles and Hungarian's always thought twice before engaging him in combat and that gained my admiration in the few short years I knew him.

He will be sorely missed my Lords.

That brings the year of our lord 1350 to a close and I can already see the Exchequer's Officials queuing for the coming year.

I will be back as soon as I have made sense of reports and inform you all to the best of my ability.

Turning, the Chancellor strides from the chamber, his night black clock billowing out behind him. Rather than his retinue in attendance there are numerous darkly robed figures with him.

[Ramses II CP]

Lorenz Zirn is to be saluted for his valiant sacrifice. Indeed, if God does not lift this terrible affliction from the land the day may come that we all envy Count Zirn's noble end.

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[Ferret]

A messenger with the white wolf of the Bresch family sewn onto his tunic presents a letter to the Diet:


Gentlemen I am announcing a new policy. I have thought very long and hard about this, ever since Jan von Hamburg used the same policy but I have decided its introduction will benefit the Reich as a whole. I would like all prisoners to be released.

I know some of you, especially Fritz, will strongly object and to be honest there is little I can do to enforce it, you will still be generals though you may not own land or command armies if you continue to disobey the rule. My reasoning for imposing it is thus: the people are not our enemies. It is the Tyrants who rule them and stop them embracing the good will of the Reich. It is their generals that need to be killed. The same goes for cities as well, they do not need to be sacked as the wealth you are taking away from them would be paid to us through taxes anyway.

The people also fight for us once we liberate their lands from our enemies. I doubt their is any man in this Empire who commands a pure army of Germans, we train ,en from our enemies old soldiers. That is the way to think of it. By releasing those men you are allowing them to go home to their farms at the end of their campaigning season and the next season when we own their lands then they will be taking up arms for us. By executing them you are taking future soldiers away from the Reich. I shall send a messenger with a copy of what I have just said to the Diet so all men can have the choice of benefiting te Reich or hindering its rise to unparalleled glory.


After reading the letter the man apologizes if it did not make perfect sense as the Duke wrote it with the Franconian nobles as an audience and is too busy to re-write it.

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor:

This topics never seems to die the death it should.

Arnold stands and strides onto the Diet floor.

While I have never sacked any settlement and will never do so in my life time, I simply can not comprehend this approach to the men that take up arms against us. The civilian populations are innocent, but the men who fight in the armies of our enemies are NOT!!

If they and their leaders choose to fight us, then they must also choose the consequences of their actions.

To release or not to release prisoners has, and always will be a choice for each commander to make himself.

It is a general's choice alone to make and is part of the privilege AND DUTY of command. These choices also have consequences my Lords. I for example may be seen as one extreme version of this matter.

Raising his voice and a hand to the sky the Chancellor exudes a feeling of dread. Most feel the skin on their arms and neck tingle, for others there is clearly a change in the chamber. The temperature seems to drop momentarily.

The idea of penalizing general's for making one choice over another is short sighted and weak in my estimation!

I have no problem with a general's choice to let prisoners go but I certainly do not accept that any general in this Reich being disadvantaged for ensuring that captured soliders never lift their sword arm against us again!!

With that the Chancellor takes his seat and the unease and feeling of the room returns to normal.

[Ferret]

I shall not penalize anyone for doing so unless there is a specific band of men that I ordered to be released. You must bear in mind, lord Chancellor, that many of the men who 'take up arms' are civilians, mere militia forced to fight and those same men will later willingly fight to the Reich. I shall inform my generals that the choice is still theirs but I may be slightly biased towards those benefiting our nation. I was simply trying to get across what I believe. I accept the death of permanent soldiers who will never fight for us and strongly encourage the execution of enemy generals or royal family members but I also strongly advise the nobles of our nation to release the militia, as these are the men who will fight for us one day.

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor:

Nodding towards the Duke

I do see a part of your point Duke Bresch.

It is your Duchy, you are well within your rights to take any approach to this topic you wish.

[AussieGiant]

Standing to address the Diet, the Chancellor seems a little remorseful.

My Lords, I know some of you are hesitant regarding this plague and it is truly a thing that should strike fear into any man living on this earth.

To some of you I have made recommendations that will mean certain contraction of this disease.

I want you all to know that I have agonised over this for weeks, but there is little I can do. Until such time as our cities and citadel's are cured you will have to either make a choice. Find yourselves being asked to conduct battles with ever fewer men, that of course in itself can lead to certain death.

Or take the risk, receive reinforcements, and continue the fighting.

You must all do what your conscience dictates to you.

Good luck and may God be with you all.

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor enters the Diet Chamber and walks straight to the central floor. His face is a mask, showing no emotion. His eye's are wide and there is a slight madness to them.

My Lords, the war against Hungary and Poland has claimed yet another Austrian Noble!!

I have just returned from the state funeral of Lorenz Zirn and now I must prepare another for the valiant Dieter von Essen.

From the personal account of his regiment he was shot through with seven arrows to his front, received a spear thrust to his shoulder and still managed to take down over a dozen of the enemy before he perished.

My god rest his soul in the after life!!!

The House of Austria has always been one of the most deadly in the Reich...it seems this will never change until the end of time.

The Chancellor turns slowly and walks back to the Austrian benches.

[OverKnight]

A message arrives from Outremer.

Kaiser Peter and my fellow Electors,

I mourn the loss of Dieter von Essen. I looked forward to his arrival in Outremer, but now his life has been cut short. His bravery and honor will be missed.

May he find the Heavenly reward that he deserved.

Matthias

[Warluster]

Duke von Salza stands and adopts a (hopefully) mournful face.

The death of the two Austrian's defintely deal a blow. Any loss to the Reich means signifcant damage nowadays, and I express grief and good luck to the two Count's families, House and Duke.

The few Regiments of Teuton Knights; from my lasest sources say that they are now heading to Franconia. I, peacefully, request, or plead, that you head them back to Swabia. If they help us beat back these Frenchmen, fine no matter what disease they carry.

Duke von Salza seats himself, and as soon as the attention shifts from him hisface washes into a calm expression.

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor stands to address the Swabian Duke.

Von Salza, the three regiments of Teuton's left last season and are now integrated into the 1st FHA. They will not be returned.

Another regiment is available in Frankfurt as we speak and I will dispatch it to where ever you would like it. Additionally given the situation and what is occurring in Swabia I hereby confirm that I will recruit another two regiments this turn and send them next turn to the location of your choice.

Count Ruppel has or had a plan to relieve Dijon, hence your current position separated from the 1st SHA. You have three or four regiments of spearmen and one ribault. I would request that you and Count Ruppel explain what the next actions are or I will not continue to allow micro management of the situation out there.

At this point the Duke confers with a number of advisors then looks back with a clear sense of purpose.

In fact now that I think on it further I will now only accept detailed instruction in the official Orders section AND I will make the moves necessary myself.

We seem to be vacillating between uncoordinated ideas which is only confirming my thoughts of putting the enitre front on a purely defensive footing until someone takes an overall grip of the situation and can instruct me on the moves necessary.

Apologies in advance Duke von Salza if I sound terse and short, and you are certainly one of the fronts I am most concerned about, but the situation seems to be degrading due to the disjointed nature of the House in general.

Please use Viceroy Matthias’s orders as an example of what will allow me to get your forces in order for the on coming French horde.

The Chancellor bow deeply to the Swabian Duke and sits.

[Warluster]

Duke von Salza stands and questionaly looks at the Chancellor

We have been under defensive footing the whole time, surely you know that? We already have a grip, on the situation, and our commands have been limited between a veteran French Army siegeing Dijon, and previously Bruges, and between everyone, and I repeat everyone taking the Bavarian front as a priotrity.

The plans regarding Dijon are, and have been, under close observation by the whole Swabian House. The orders sent have been, truthfully, painfully short because we have limited options. Unfortunely, I have not noticed your micormanagement.

Duke von Salza straightens himself and sits quietly

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor:

Interesting observation Duke von Salza.

I'd like to point out that the reason you have not noticed my micro-management is BECAUSE it was not ME micro managing your Duchy. The only thing I unwittingly did was send reinforcements from Staufen to what seemed to be the 1st SHA. It turns out that I have more than likely spread the plague to this force and for that I apologies.

But please note, I regard the plague as a secondary concern to the mass of French armies that could burst across your front line with little resistance. The least of my worries was the plague spreading considering Ruppel is already infect and could therefore LEAD the infected 1st SHA with no consequence.

Given his skill that seems like the best course of action to me.

Please understand my point about a "defensive posture" is meant to describe the future not the past. If you wish to be place permantently in this status then please let me know.

Otherwise, we seem to be in some disagreement, therefore my request is final for this season.

Place your Duchies orders with the Chancellor's office in the Imperial Orders Buro immediately so that I may take action.

If, of course you wish initiate battle please go ahead my lord!!

[gibsonsg91921]

Austria is verily the most brutal theater. May the rest of her Electors remain safe, from Hungary and from the plague.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

I've received some preliminary reports that we've recaptured Rome. If this is so - well, congratulations first of all, and thank you very much Prinz Dieter - then are there any plans to move the capital back? What's the condition of the city like?

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor

Turning to address Hermann Steffen.

I can confirm that Prinz Dieter has retaken Rome with little loss of life.

I'm hoping young Hermann that Count Erlach can engage the French and knight you. Unfortuantely the size of the Riech's forces in the area are far too large to use the technical work around.

Now the Chancellor looks around the rest of the Chamber

I would prefer to keep the Capital in Nuremburg for the moment, however if the Kaiser wishes to make the change then I will move the War Office and that of the Exchequer if ordered to do so.

[gibsonsg91921]

If this is well and no hindrance to Duke Lothar, we shall keep the capital at Nuremburg until we are fully reunited to Rome.

[TinCow]

That is acceptable to me. It would be foolish to hold court in a place which would require the Electors to traverse hostile territory just to visit it. Until a reliably safe passage to Rome can be secured, I am willing to let Nuremburg remain under Imperial control. In any case, the capital has little importance until the time of the next Diet anyway.

[gibsonsg91921]

For his heroism in The Battle for Milan, I hereby knight Sir Hugo de Cervole.

[_Tristan_]

My most sincere thanks, Empereur...

Taking on those French scum was almost enough of a reward in itself...

[OverKnight]

A letter arrives from Outremer.

Kaiser Peter and my fellow Electors,

I wish to congratulate Kaiser Peter, Sir Hugo, Count Fredericus and my nephew Herrmann Steffen over their crushing triumph against the French. This bodes well for our efforts against them, and with the seizure of Rome by Dieter von Kassel, our attempt to secure Italy in general.

While I understand that Knighthood is usually granted for ferocity in battle, surely Herrmann's coordination of the attack deserves consideration for that honor. Even if he did not land a blow, he greatly contributed to the victory.

Matthias

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor

I would like to formally second the Viceroy's request for knighting Hermann Steffen.

Commanding a battle is a significant part of a general's duty and arguably more important than swinging a sword or wielding a lance and killing the enemy personally.

Given the adjutants and aid-de-camps he commanded in relation to the Kaiser and a senior Bavarian noble he deserves this as much as anyone, just for entirely different reasons.

[TinCow]

There is no need to petition the Kaiser. Herrmann is my son and fought with a Bavarian army in defense of a Bavarian city. I have all the right in the world to knight him for his actions. Men have received this honor for far, far less in years past. Herrmann's actions, though they did not draw enemy blood, were absolutely crucial in defeating a large and immensely powerful French army which posed a great threat both to Bavaria and the entire Reich. No one has been more deserving of a knighthood than he and I hereby bestow it upon him.

[gibsonsg91921]

Of course, gentlemen, I was to knight him for his valiant efforts, but I deemed it out of my place as he served under Fredericus Erlach and not my forces. I did not see how he fought himself personally, so I preferred to allow Erlach to do Herrmann the honor that so many believe he deserves.

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor

Excellent gentlemen. The issues is settled then.

I'll have the chancellor's office update the official records immediately.

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor walks slowly into the Diet Chamber. His administrators proceed to hand the Imperial report to those nobles in attendance or their representatives when necessary.

Taking his seat very slowly a clearly haggard, unhealthy and drawn man sits before the Diet.

There is still no sign of his retinue and in their stead are a number of black cloaked individuals studying reports and receive messengers from the Imperial Service. They periodically speak to the Chancellor in hushed tones or whisper directly into his ear.

Leaning forward the Chancellor finally speaks in a very soft and deliberate fashion

So gentlemen...


...the Reich is running...


how do you all fair at this time?

[OverKnight]

A letter from Outremer.

Electors,

The news from Italy is bittersweet. My nephew is again victorious, but Count Friedrich is dead. He was a good man, a loyal Bavarian, and I hope his sacrifice will not be in vain. We must keep fighting them untill the Purple scum are cleansed from Italy.

This French push on northern Italy is intriguing. On one hand it is the last thing Bavaria needs, but on the other it serves to divide their massive forces. If God smiles upon us, we can isolate their armies and defeat them, relieving pressure on Swabia.

I salute the bravery of the Bavarian and Imperial armies. The task we face is daunting, but if we pick our battles and engage in an aggressive but cagey campaign against the invaders, we will be victorious.

Matthias

[TinCow]

Count Karolinger was the most noble and honorable man I have ever known. From his first day as a Bavarian Elector, he has put all of his strength towards protecting his people. Countless times he put himself in harm's way so that others did not have to do so. It seems that fate has finally caught up with him. We are far the poorer for his loss. Bavaria will not be the same without him. Indeed, I can say now that until for the many years before my son Herrmann came of age, Count Karolinger himself was the heir to Bavaria. I hope this knowledge will make it clear how that I held him in the highest regard.

His death has confirmed for me a decision that I have been pondering for some time. These endless foreign armies are concentrated on Milan and Milan alone. They are determined to take it and will not cease their assaults until it falls.

There is one way to gain a significant advantage over the enemy: to fight them from the walls of the city. With the aid of towers, walls, and gates, we can inflict horrific damage on the enemy. It is a major advantage that we cannot have in a field battle. The only problem is that anyone holding the walls faces certain death if the defense fails. We have now lost one good Elector for the sake of Milan. I will not permit us to lose another.

I will do what Count Karolinger did for the people of Austria: I will remain behind to protect them. I request that all available forces be concentrated inside Milan itself. I will join them and hold the walls against the Milanese. All other Electors must evacuate the area to ensure that they are not caught by the French. I know Swabia is need of generals, so this should free the Kaiser to march northwards. Of course, any forces that the Kaiser can leave behind to aid Milan will be appreciated. I will hold Milan until the enemy is dead or I am. No one else will have to risk their lives in such an endeavor.

[AussieGiant]

The Chancellor

My Lords,

Count Karolinger gave his duty and his service to House Austria in one of the most selfless and honourable choices I have seen in my life.

While his own House was in dire need of assistance he stayed and saw through the commitment he gave to me personally as Duke of Austria and to his fellow nobles.

His statue will be erected in the main square of Vienna to celebrate his efforts for that city and the Duchy of Austria for all time.

May you rest in peace my friend.

In light of the recent deaths in Austria the following titles are now bestowed upon these men:

Sir Johann Zirn is now Count of Vienna.

Jan Zirn is now Count of Zagreb.

Maximilian von Hapsburg is Count of Venice.

[Cecil XIX]

I am sorry to have just learned of the death of Frederich Karolinger. He was a true man of the Reich, and the fact that he was content to serve a house other than his own speaks volumes about the strength of his character. He will be missed.

Likewise, the death of Lucas Godwinson is a tragedy of the first magnitude. It is a sobering thought that this plague could take us when we lay in our homes, away from the field of battle. I pray that House Franconia survive the troubled times ahead.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

Never again...

Electors, I don't know where all of these elite enemy armies are coming from or how they're becoming so elite. But I do know one thing. The wrecking of three entire armies proves to us; the death of-

*He takes a deep breath.*

The death of Friedrich Karolinger proves to us that we cannot afford to let up. The lives of all whom we serve depend on it.

I understand the need to defend our territory, obviously. But once that goal has been accomplished - once we have driven the invaders out and turned the tide - we must keep pressing, no matter the cost. We must never let up.

Never again must three of our finest armies be called into the field to fight one battle, Electors. We need to make sure this never happens again.

[gibsonsg91921]

Is there no end to the toll wrought upon us? Friedrich the Carolingian was every bit a soldier as his ancestor Charlemagne. And Lukas - this is a grave loss. He was a promising commander - I had hoped he would be the future of Franconia.

[OverKnight]

A message from Outremer:

Mein Kaiser and my fellow Electors,

I am pleased to see that Chancellor Arnold has restored our official Alliance with the Papal States. The threat of excommunication hangs even more heavily over those Catholic Nations that would war against us. We must monitor this situation closely, and if the Pope is a relatively young man, and one of our enemies is excommunicated again, particularly the French, a Crusade against them could become a powerful option. Surely God wishes to see them laid low for they are in league with Satan, for how else could we explain their limitless armies?

Of course, we must now monitor our own relations with the Papacy more closely if we are to preserve these gains. We have great influence over the Church, but we will never have complete control. I hope the next Chancellor will keep this in mind.

Matthias

[AussieGiant]

A travel stained and weary Duke Arnold enters the Diet Chamber. For the first time in years he is attended by his retinue who move quietly and quickly to the Austrian chamber attached to the main hall.

The Dread Duke, now back in his familiar obsidian plate mail, moves to the Chancellors chair and from around his neck removed the large Chancellor's broach placing it gently in the back rest where it sits until another takes the coveted position.

Glancing briefly around the Diet Chamber the Duke mouths a few words to himself, kisses his gauntleted hand and places it on the broach for a few moments.

In the minutes that pass he seems lost in thought while he stares vacantly at the chair remembering times past.

As fast as the moment comes it is gone and in a flash the Dread Duke's visage returns to his face, the steel and fire begin to smolder once more behind his dark eyes.

With a billow of his night black cloak, the Duke turns and strides purposefully back towards his Duchy's chambers...another Diet session was upon them all and there was much to be done.

[econ21]

Diet Speaker: My Lords! We thank Duke Arnold for his great efforts as our Chancellor. Now that he has posted the last of his most informative reports, we must formally open a full session of the Diet.

There will be a three day period for debate. During that time, all candidates for the post of Chancellor must declare themselves, presenting their manifestoes for scrutiny and questionning.

Edicts and Charter Amendments may be proposed. They will require two seconders to be put to the vote.

The deadline for candidates to declare and proposed legilsation to be seconded is 10pm UK time Thursday. There will then be a 24 hour period of voting.

I now yield the floor.

[Ramses II CP]

OOC: Just checking: No new thread? Don't want to unspool a long winded speech and then have to repost it. :laugh4:

:egypt:

[Ramses II CP]

'Nobles of the Reich! I trust you are all well rested and in good health?'

Here Fritz must pause to cough roughly into a soldier's kerchief poked into the back of his glove. Dozens of minor functionaries can be heard gasping, or seen crossing themselves. Over the back of his hand his eyes can be seen to gleam redly before his face emerges from behind the kerchief with an uncharacteristic grin.

'Okay, well, somebody told me to open with a joke and that was the best I had.'

A grim look falls over Fritz's face.

'As if the all fired Cataclysm wasn't test enough, we have now just gone through the worst plague in known history, which appeared to strike our nation much harder than our,' Fritz sneers, 'neighbors. Credit Chancellor Arnold for leading us through that desperate time of defense and defeat,' Here Fritz bows slightly to Duke Arnold before resuming his speech.

'...but that time is now over, and it is once again the time to attack! Good thing that, because Fritz the Attacker is here to announce his run for the Chancellorship. Give me your trust, and your vote, and I vow to drive back our enemies by any means necessary.'

'We have been passive. We have huddled in our castles and our cities, waiting out the plague and hoping that our enemies would turn aside their wrath. Praying that God would deliver us with a miracle. All of that ends now. Now is the time to take our fate into our own hands and strike out to improve it by the force of our collective will.'

'Any questions?'

Fritz returns to his seat.

:egypt:

[OverKnight]

OOC: This should be read as going before the previous post.

Matthias enters the Diet looking travel-worn and tired.

My fellow Electors,

I wish to congratulate Duke Arnold on his term. Never before, with the possible exception of Saint Maximillian, has a Chancellor faced so much adversity: Plague, financial ruin, the aftermath of a civil war and countless enemies. He confronted each with an iron will and we are stronger for it. The Reich has survived, and soon the apostates, infidels and scum of the world will tremble once again at our approach. I thank Duke Arnold for his role in our rebirth.

Matthias pauses, taking note of the quiet chamber.

Yet. . .I would not have this turn into complacency. Rumors have reached me in Outremer of inertia on some parts of the Home Front. For the Reich to embrace it's destiny, each Elector must put forth their maximum effort. In the past what fueled our advance against the despotic and arthritic kingdoms around us was the strength of our nobles: Dukes, Counts and Electors. If we are to advance again, we must reclaim the initiative and drive of our fore-fathers.

The world is ours, all we have to do is reach out and take it.

[econ21]

Welf von Luxemburg:

I congratulate Duke Arnold on his successful period of office. He has shepherded the Reich through the terrible Black Death and seen off the many invaders who had sought to take advantage of our earlier divisions. I am personally indebted to him for giving me the opportunity to make my own contribution on our western front.

However, the inertia that Viceroy Steffen speaks of is only too evident. There is much to be done. All Houses and Outremer are still but shadows of what they once more. We must not rest until the borders of the Reich are restored and our hegemony over Europe clearly re-established.

We need another man of Duke Arnold's stature and drive to continue to energise us. I believe Fritz von Kastilien is such a man. His invasion of Denmark was a tour de force and he has achieved miracles with scant resources. He clearly has the strategic and tactical abilities to guide the Reich and to spearhead its Imperial armies.

Moreover, his manifesto shows the drive and ambition that this Reich needs. We have fought our enemies to a standstill, but even as we meet, they will be regrouping and gathering their strength for another push. We must meet them head on, at the charge.

I believe Fritz is the man best placed for this task. He is our man of the hour, the man for our time.

[AussieGiant]

As the speeches of Fritz, Matthias and Welf occur, Arnold and his retinue file out of the Austrian Chamber and take their seats. As Welf concludes his speech the Duke stands at the edge of the chambers inner circle where the floor is open to those who which to speak to the chamber as a whole.

As Welf falls silent and takes his seat the Duke take one pace into the circle and looks around at the assembled nobility.

I wish to thank Matthias, Welf and Fritz for their kind words towards me.

It has truly been a difficult period, but there is one thing that concerns me a great deal and it has nothing to do with anything outside this room.

I'll SAY THIS LOUDLY!!

THE VICEROY and WELF ARE RIGHT!!

THE DEMENOUR, THE ATTITUDE, THE MOTIVATION AND THE GENERAL LEVEL OF GOVERNANCE BY THIS ESTEEMED BODY WOULD MAKE OUR FOREFATHERS CRINGE!!!

It sounds harsh but I simply don’t care what others think of me at this stage of my life.

We can’t have the level of governance shown in my term as Chancellor and hope to reclaim and bring about a new age of expansion and success for this Reich.

Pausing to stare at the assembled nobility the Duke eyes are challenging and defiant.

Assess yourselves gentlemen…and if you find the answers to your OWN questions anything less than 110% committed, then step aside and make way for those that can lead the line!!!

A final crushing blow to the Austrian bench results is a completely disintegrated section of wood panelling. Into the silence the Duke bellows:

And that goes from the Kaiser down!!

With that he turns and takes a seat. He folds his arm across his chest to maintain his composure, turning the physical power emanating from him, back upon himself and not against some other inanimate object.

[TinCow]

*Lothar smiles at Arnold's speech.*

If any man is too bored or lazy to administer his own lands, I will be more than happy to take them under the protection of the great Duchy of Bavaria.

I also offer the Diet a new version of the legislation I proposed last year which gives us the authority to regain what we have lost:


Edict 15.1: The Chancellor is authorized to conquer Caen, Paris, Rheims, Marseilles, Ajaccio, Florence, Stettin, Thorn, Breslau, Krakow, Vilnius, Budapest, Bran, Bucharest, Zagreb and Edessa. Any currently held provinces which are lost to the enemy during this Chancellorship term may also be reconquered.

If my scribes have forgotten any provinces which should be listed in that Edict, please let me know and I will amend it properly.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

Considering our progress of reclaiming these territories since the Cataclysm has ended (nothing against our Chancellor, clearly there were extenuating circumstances this term), I propose the following Charter Amendment so that people may be spared of the same proposals being offered again and again, hampered only by our lack of progress:

CA 15.1: All edicts proposed regarding conquest or reclamation of territory do not expire until such territories are conquered. If the Diet no longer wishes that a certain settlement be conquered, an edict is required to declare the prior edict null and void.

-edit- Naturally, I second Edict 15.1.

[AussieGiant]

Standing and grinning at Lothar

For the record, the Bavarian Duke can keep his grubby little paws to himself when it comes to Austria. Even if I was alone out there it would be too crowded.

I hereby second Edict 15.1 and CA 15.1, although only one of them is necessary of course.

Can some £$^£ing lawyer please tell me which should be seconded?

Pausing, the Duke then casts he gaze across the chamber.

I see Lord Fritz is prepared to serve. Is no one out there prepared to run against him? Should I take the role of incumbent and stand again? I get the impression that my entire Chancellorship has been rather anticlimactic.

I expect nothing less of full return to our original boundaries at end of the next Chancellors term.

I want to see the Reich returned to his glory before I die!!

If reading the history of this Chamber is anything to go by you've all turned into a sack of meek pig shiet!!

Maybe a Franconian needs to take over...then we can all retire to our villa's and return in 20 years to see the paper stacks another foot higher.

[gibsonsg91921]

Fritz is a fine candidate. He has my full blessing as Chancellor.

We have survived the plague. We must now turn to other plagues - the French, the Greeks, the Poles, the Venetians, and all of our mortal enemies. Fritz can, no doubt, handle the task at hand.

EDIT: I also second Edict 15.1 and CA 15.1.

[Ramses II CP]

Fritz von Kastilien looks up from his scattered papers and calls out,

'I propose:

Edict 15.2 Any Franconian noble shall have the right to raid Oslo and Stockholm with the intent of permanantly ending the Danish threat. After capture the provinces would be available for diplomatic negotiations with neutral or allied nations.

...the obvious goal being to close our northern border for good, at last, so that Franconia may turn her attention to reclaiming her lost territories. Taking Arhus bought us some time, but the despite being little more than rebels the Danes continue to produce incredible quantities of soldiers and the Russians cannot be pleased with how foolish Duke Arnold's brilliant diplomacy has made them look. The situation in Franconia is becoming dire, as the Poles are now in position to threaten Frankfurt and Hamburg while simply holding Madgeburg under siege continuously. I do not believe they could take Frankfurt, but there are no guarantees in war.'

'While I'm standing, let me take a moment to expand on my prior comments. There has been entirely too much lay-about-the-fort thinking during the plague years. Yes, we've all been ill, we've lost many valuable men and even a noble, God grant that Count Godwinson rests easy, but our enemies have grown strong while we rested. If we do not meet them in the field they will grind away our strength while we are trapped behind the very high walls that supposedly protect us.'

'I am in the process of reviewing all our strategic reports and will have a specific set of military proposals to present for discussion and input as soon as possible. If anyone has information not available to the imperial scribes and map makers then feel free to pass it along to me at your earliest convenience.'

Fritz returns to his seat.

:egypt:

[OverKnight]

Matthias looks about, glad to see the Diet active.

I wish to propose two pieces of legislation concerning Outremer.

Edict 15.3: Nicosia is to be taken from the Greeks.

Edict 15.4: Edessa is to be taken from the Greeks. The city will then be transferred to English rule. Gaining military access from the English is recommended as part of the transfer, but the Chancellor is instructed to accept any deal, even a donation, to accomplish the Edict.

I would also like to use my personal Edict to propose the following, unlike the first two, this one will require seconds:

Edict 15.5: The Diet authorizes attacks on Iconium and Caesarea if the oppurtunity arises. This Edict may only be enforced if Nicosia and Edessa have already been taken.

The overarching goal of these edicts is to limit the Greeks to one avenue of attack into Outremer. By taking Cyprus, we will remove the threat from the south. By taking Edessa, we will be removing the one from the east. Unfortunately, due to geography, it will be difficult to hold Edessa once taken while still keeping a strong force in a central location to respond to other attacks. The English, with Aleppo nearby, would be in a stronger position to hold the city. Their presence in Outremer has served us well, and I would like to reward them while sticking a thumb in the eye of the Basileus. Having military access through English territory would also give us strategic flexibility in the future.

Once Cyprus and Edessa have fallen, this will limit the Greeks to attacks through the passes of the mountains northwest of Adana. We can contain them there, and if the oppurtunity presents itself, advance on them. Hence Edict 15.5. I am not sure if we will have this chance, but I would like to have the option available. Though 15.3 and 15.4 take priority.

In a related matter, my scribes have a list (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1823648&postcount=16) of all legislation proposed so far.

[AussieGiant]

Glowering at the proceedings Arnold notes the usual nobles taking the floor to drive legislation.

Unfolding his arms he leans forward on his elbows and bellows:

I second edicts 15.2, 15.3, 15.4 and 15.5!!!

Pausing for a moment, Arnold makes eye contact with a few nobles in the chamber.

I'm also going to stand for re-election!!!

Nodding to Lord Fritz.

My Lord, we shall have a rematch! Let the best man win.

I will come back to you all with my objectives and strategy in due course.

[Ramses II CP]

Rising again Fritz nods to Duke Arnold.

Indeed, good luck to you. Given the horrific circumstances of your reign, all completely beyond human control, I would have been quite surprised if you had not risen for another chance to set our course.

And now, to the point:

The large scale strategic picture is extremely clear. Virtually our every penny is devoted to army upkeep, and yet our armies are not earning us money by attacking our enemies. The things I'm about to say will at times be hard to hear or might even be construed as criticism, but rest assured that none of it is personal. My own military failings shall be my starting point, to set the tone.

The Danish front saw a humiliating failures to withdraw the northern Franconian army in the face of overwhelming enemy cavalry. Monies may now have to be wasted evacuating Fritz von Kastilien from the position he's gotten himself into to prevent the fall of Arhus. The only good news is the incompetence of the enemy, as they could easily have pursued and destroyed the entire force.

The Polish front sees yet another siege of Madgeburg and Prague, with the only twist being that Hamburg is all but assured to fall as well and Frankfurt is threatened with siege. Duke Dieter either you get out of Madgeburg, or you send Tancred out as soon as the siege is beaten back or lifted. Furthermore your recent decision to release all prisoners is, in my opinion, unsustainable and ill advised. If showing mercy to the enemy results in their exterminating Hamburg you may be forced to re-evaluate your thoughts on this matter.

Prague is a veritable sink for funds, constantly under siege with an immense garrison and taxes ordered set low. If you wish to continue to field the quantity of troops you seem to need to defend Prague then you will have to raise taxes or capture Breslau. I know it is a difficult situation, as it is at Madgeburg, but if you can't find success with the resources at hand you must at least pay for their use Lord Becker. Soldiers and nobles are dying in the field for want of money to train soldiers.

Proceeding south, Johann Zirn should drive away that paltry force in front of him and subsequently my advice is to send back the militia spearmen in your force and exchange them for the Forlorn Hope and cannon from Vienna, then take up a defensible position, preferrably inside Hungarian territory, and make yourself ready to repel the attack of the Hungarian noble nearby. It will not be easy, but I expect you will find victory or you will greatly reduce our upkeep costs.

Duke Arnold you have done remarkable things against the Venetians, but alas the Hungarians have struck behind you. Pick one of your nobles from Vienna to move south to aid you and take some men north to meet them. May God have mercy on the citizens of Zagreb, and good luck.

I believe we must concentrate, for the moment, the majority of our resources on resolving the Bavarian situation, as it is the closest to a resolution. If Prince Dieter can defeat the army facing him and drive them off, then Bologna should be taken under siege, and every available force in the region will be used to do so, including mercenaries hired under Duke Steffen and his two sons and whatever part of Prince Dieter's army can reach the city. I expect the Byzantines to commit all of their forces here, and that is precisely my goal. Whomever commands the battle must maximize the Byzantine casualties, as their reinforcements are now much more distant than our own.

If Prince Dieter cannot drive away the men in front of him they represent too mobile a force to allow for a siege of Bologna and I will reconsider strategy in the region. Genoa, unfortunately, must be borne for now. My understanding is the French are having some trouble with the plague and rioting in the city, which should keep them contained for at least a season.

Before I turn to Swabia I will discuss Outremer. Let me be clear that those ships will not sit there long unused. I will be training a cannon at Adana and I expect the raid against Nicosia to go forward as quickly as possible afterward. Given the lack of nobles on the ground in Outremer it may not be possible to hold Nicosia, but even a simple raid will provide funding for our larger efforts while weakening the Byzantines.

With two Turkish armies marching down the passes, and two Byzantine nobles at Edessa, I fear that city will be a long time in falling, but I'll leave any advance in that direction to your discretion. Mutual military access with the English will be a diplomatic priority. Be assured that our God given responsibilities in Outremer will have the utmost respect under my potential Chancellorship.

And now Swabia. If Bruges cannot be relieved then it will be abandoned, and let us be clear that there will then be no hope in the near future of recapturing it. Furthermore Antwerp will almost certainly fall very quickly afterward. Those are rich cities, very valuable, and I desperately want them held. Count von Bohmen I need to hear something positive from you here.

Welf von Luxemburg I have a difficult task for you. You will be asked to simultaneously hold the bridge south of Metz and lay siege to that city. By splitting your forces and placing your personal camp between the two groups it should be possible for you to arrive in time to command an engagement at either position. This will close the heart of the Reich to the French by holding that strategic strongpoint and give us the chance of recapturing Metz as well, an advance which Swabia desperately needs. I cannot predict what forces the French will bring against you, so I will let you determine which groups of men to place in siege, and which at the bridge

At Dijon the situation needs to be resolved immediately. Either Huge de Cervole, Hermann Steffen, or (my recommendation) Kaiser Peter should immediately drive off the small force facing Captain Gunther's diseased army without directly entering Gunter's camp, and then ride to the relief of Dijon with Gunther, where I expect Count Ruppel will be very pleased to sally. I'm sure I don't need to point out that this will open a weakness in the French lines, though how much of one remains to be seen.

I am well aware that running for Chancellor does not make one the military overlord of the Reich, so take everything I have written as a strongly worded suggestion if it makes you feel better. I am always open and amenable to discussion of plans, and I desperately want input and suggestions from the commanders on the ground. We have been passive gentlemen, but it ends now! If the Reich is to fail, it will not be cowering behind a protective wall like an old woman, but striking boldly forth against our enemies.

Now I expect some questions, comments, and perhaps even an angry debate or two. Let's get to it!

Fritz von Kastilien takes a long drink from a glass of water and returns to his seat, glaring challengingly around the room at anyone who will meet his gaze.

:egypt:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

...anybody home?

...anybody?

Hello there!

Echo! Echo! Echo!

Hmm, I wonder...

Edict 15.6: Herrmann Steffen is declared Kaiser. All persons in the Reich are to immediately hand over 75% of their wealth to him. All women aged 16-25 are to make their way to Nuremburg where he will select 444 of them to be his personal harem. The Diet is dissolved. The Holy Roman Empire will now be an absolute monarchy.

Anyone? Anyone want to say anything?

Anyone want to say how that I'm not allowed to present this, this being my second personal edict? Anyone want to say that technically, this should be a Charter Amendment and not an Edict? Anyone want to say that I'm a raging crackpot?

Anyone???

Come on, people! This is a Diet Session! The future of the Reich for the next twenty years is decided here! Where is everybody??!?!

We have two fine candidates running for Chancellor. One is the establishment candidate whose policies are well-known due to his previous term in office. The other has just outlined his detailed military strategy for us all to examine. And nobody has any comments?

I'm going to the Tavern. Just a hunch, but there might be more activity there than in this depressing mausoleum. If anybody says anything of note, somebody send a messenger to find me. Heaven knows they shouldn't have much to do either.

*Herrmann departs the Diet building, clearly agitated over the lack of activity.*

[AussieGiant]

Arnold:

Glancing at Lothar with a serious look of concern, Arnold gazes at the departing figure of Hermann Steffen and mutters something to himself that only his retinue can hear. The roar of laughter that ensues clearly indicates that the Duke has succinctly described his views on what he has just seen and heard.

Right then...young Steffen has clearly lost his £$£$ing marbles but I assume from his little outburst here that he supports my comments about the general amount of governance we are seeing here in this chamber.

Pausing the Duke glances at a thick stack of papers he is obviously going to read...deciding that is entirely worthless he throws them at his Priest.

Ahh for £$%^ sake!! Lets make this simple.

Lord Fritz has spent an enormous amount of time and energy creating once of the most comprehensive plans I have heard...ever!!!

I'm not going to even try and follow that.

He's right and I know it!! More importantly you all know it. The £$%£ing maid knows it, his Holiness the bloody Pope knows it. Christ, even my £$%£$ing dogs knows it!!! That fat, drunk, tosser of a Russian diplomat knows it!! The known £$%ing world KNOWSSSS it!!

Most of you in this room are about as useful and tits on a bull!!!

Pausing again the silence is deafening.

Excellent!! It does seem as if I have your attention at least.

I'll codify my concept in an edict or CA depending on what my £$%ing lawyers say but this is my strategy:

Based on the piss poor performance I've seen from the majority of you £$^ing clowns sitting here today, I'm going to request that most of you are stripped of your titles and ensconced into the interior of the Reich...mind you that seems an unhealthy place right now so hopefully a few of you will die at the hands of the Poles and we can find some real generals.

At this point there is a discrete cough from behind the Duke. Arnold turns and glares at Grom, who raises his eyebrows and gives him the "get on with it" motion.

yes well, I seem to have strayed and I was asked to stay on topic, so I shall endeavor to do so!!

So, at this point, I will draw up a list of nobles that will form a cadre of generals that I, as Chancellor will redeploy at my discretion.

All current legislated forces will be redefined as "Chancellor Group Armies" and based on the analysis of the War Office and through the Chancellor's position I will reallocate these cadre generals and their forces as required.

Pacing with both hands behind his back the Duke surveys the room.

I spent 20 years trying to prevent the spread of the plague and watching a treasury eek out meager existence by relying on me getting a series of rich fat $%ing Russia drunk and then extorting them for bogus Imperial Maps!!!

It was a £$%£$ing disgrace and I'm pissed beyond belief!!

I wont paint a picture that is too vivid, because I wouldn't want to disturb the self flajulating existence most of you have fallen into...

BUT!!

...try and imagine what I could do with a full treasury and without the need to worry about anyone breathing on each other the wrong way!!??

Can you imagine that??

Again the Duke pauses, waiting for a response...as none is forth coming he continues.

I can, and it £$%£ing terrifies even me!! So you can imagine what it will do to our enemies!!!

I'll draw up the list and get the edicts worded correctly for your vote.

Thanks for your time and I'll see most of you in the whore house this evening I assume.

Carry on gentlemen.

With that the Duke turns and takes a seat.

[Mini Econ]

A messenger reads out a letter from Prinz Dieter:

Kaiser, Dukes, Viceroy, Counts, noble Electors and Welf!

Yet again I cannot be among you in person, but I continue my march north and my destination is not far off.

Rome is ours and it will not be long before we can meet together in our rightful capital.

I will do everything in my power to drive the remaining Byzantine scum from North Italy. Sir Fritz's proposals in that regard are eminently sensible and I will do everything in my power to bring down the Byzantine hordes.

Prinz Dieter

[Cecil XIX]

Edmund Becker, previously enjoying a nap, wakes up with a start.

Feh, keep it down young Steffen. This is likely to be the only vacation I'll get in the next twenty years, and I intend to enjoy it. Bah, I need more than a few days rest after all these battles and threats of more battles.

As for you Fritz, I have heard you. If you agree to keep the reinforcements coming, I'll go on the offensive as long as it takes to secure Breslau.

Maybe by then a Franconian can take over, and I can finally get some peace...

[Ramses II CP]

Perhaps I should have been more clear, Lord Becker. An offensive may not be possible for you, but higher taxes are. You must love the people of Prague enough to ask them to make a sacrifice for their own defense, and for the good of the Reich.

If you have further input I would value it.

Fritz returns to his seat.

[Northnovas]

Johann rises to speak:

Noble Fritz I like your thinking and I am in support of your plan of action. I finally have an army again and I would be more then willing to kick some Hungarian %#$@^ butt. I have been patiently waiting for healthy men and now that I have them I want get out fighting then sitting in this damn old dusty room.
Zagreb has fallen and I sit here to vote? Baah!
If it means getting into a fight you have my vote. Budapest still waits for me to take her.

[OverKnight]

As a scribe posts the latest list (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1823648&postcount=16) of proposals, Matthias rises to speak. He appears grim.

If my nephew had stayed rather than run off in a bother, I would inform him that his second edict has not been listed. Either he has his first proposal recast as a House Edict or withdraws it completely, then we can consider his second. But I am applying a literal interpretation to a symbolic protest, so I will leave it at that.

Matthias pauses, considering his words.

Also two of the edicts, my own personal proposal concerning Caesarea and Iconium and Count Fritz's concerning Scandinavia, still require seconds if they are to be voted on. Speeches are all well and good, but we must attend to our duty as Electors. There are serious problems facing the Reich, as others have mentioned, but they are beyond legislation, let us deal with what we can at the moment.

Matthias looks as if he is about to say something else, but he resumes his seat in silence.

[Northnovas]

Johann Zirn:

Excellent point I will second edicts 15.2 15.3 15.4. Otherwise there will be no fighting.

[Cecil XIX]

I will consider raising taxes, Lord Fritz, when Prague is protected by Huge Stone Walls. If that is what most concerns you than it would be better for me to stay in Prague, as I have become quite proficient in administering the growth of a settlement.

Regardless, an offensive is very well possible for me, it simply doesn't fit my disposition. But necessity has forced me to take on the role of the general, which I despise so much, for most of my life. Am I ready for it to do so again. Perhaps I can help offset the costs via ransom on the way to Breslau.

...

And perhaps, then, peace...

[_Tristan_]

Hughes de Cervole rises with a black stare for Duke Arnold...

Duc Arnold, I did not betray all that mattered to me to be insulted in such a manner by those who have granted me asylum...

I came to you all to join in the righteous fight you lead against the French scum...

I would have already fought many battles if I had not had to play shepherder to a bunch of you lousy Germans who can't even find their own left foot if not directed to it... I have spent all my time during your term Chancellier on the Alpine roads, so much so that I wish I was a Dane and knew how to ski...

So enough of your insults... With the plague abating, I hope to lead the SHA to bring relief to Dijon and from there make a deep foray into French lands. Would that satisfy you ?

The passivity you despise so much in us reflects perhaps on the way you governed this last few years. The blame can be equally shared...

Calming down, Hugues continues...

But, we are not here to go over the past years but rather to forge our coming history...

So, I'll second Edicts 15.1 through 15.5.

My vote in the upcoming Election will go to Lord Fritz von Kastilien.

[AussieGiant]

Arnold shakes his head at Sir Hugo's comments. Without rising from his seat.

What a load of crap Hugo!!

I never did anything but instruct the War Office to move you as requested by your Duke and as the situation demanded. Your redeployment was a result of your fellow nobles inability to fulfil their duties in the region.

Your attempt at placing responsibility is misdirected. Take your issue up with them not me. You're a man of action Hugo, but you were and still are surrounded by men who aren't. Take up your cause with them as the next Chancellor whether it be myself or Fritz will have little ability to solve this problem.

I'm more than prepared to take responsibility for my Chancellorship but not at the expense of things I can not control.

So, bring facts to the table before coming in here and disparaging what I have accomplished in the last 20 years.

My comments stand.

[Warluster]

Duke von Salza enters before the new Diet opens, and hears all words spoken. He laughs when Hermann speaks and stands shortly after Hughes is finished speaking

Are there no other people wishing to be Chancellor? I will happily vote for Count Fritz, has his long plans for Swabia benefit it greatly. If all of the things you said go to action I will believe you so.

Knight Hughes... I shall hear nothing of a suidcidal attempt into French territroy. Do so and if you don't die doing so consequnces will be as bad back in Swabia. We appreciate your effort in these wars.

Duke Arnold; I suggest you calm down. Regarding your statments of us all being useless, I assume this counts for you as well? These last few years Austria is just as in trouble as the rest. Perhaps if you took matters into hand more we'd be better off.

I'd like to second Edicts 15.1 through to 15.6.

Duke von Salza sits dowm

[_Tristan_]

Knight Hughes... I shall hear nothing of a suidcidal attempt into French territroy.

I'd like to second Edicts 15.1 through to 15.6.


I have no death wish... What I proposed was a thought out foray into French territory to capture their cities if possile and kill as many of the scum as possible...

Whereas I must question the sanity of my Duke, seconding Knight Steffen Edict 15.6 is the sure sign of a deranged mind...

[AussieGiant]

Arnold

Your "suggestion" is noted Duke von Salza and I'm going to totally disregard it!!

It's exactly this type of bureaucratic, talk festival that needs to be addressed.

As for taking matters into hand, do you want me to bury you under all the dead bodies of the Venetian soldiers I killed in the last 20 years!!?? I was involved in three separate engagement in my term of office and the current numbers of Venetian casualties is between 15 and 20 thousand!!

You'd be digging for years Salza.

Take matters into hand!!?? What kind of #$%#$ing question is that!! I did!! And the results speak louder than any words can.

Shall the next Chancellor hold every general's hand so he fights??!!

[econ21]

Diet Speaker:

The deadline for candidates to declare, and for laws to be seconded, has now passed.

Governors are reminded to submit build queues for their provinces.

Dukes should appoint army commanders for their formations and provide standing orders.

[Zim]

I look forward to seeing another election for Chancellor with two such distinguished candidates.

[Ramses II CP]

All right then chaps, it appears the matter is decided, though with somewhat lower turnout than I had hoped for, in my favor. I appreciate your support and want to congratulate Duke Arnold on his just ended reign and on running a close campaign.

As it turns out a few of my military suggestions were of questionable workability, for example my orders for Welf, so I'm going to revisit the matters with all the documentation the Chancellor's staff can provide and have a very specific set of recomendations soon. As a first action I would like to hear from Prinz Dieter about what he thinks he may require to crush the Byzantines who face him. If you would like the men who have just arrived near Rome, or any or all of the garrison from Rome, or a full complement of mercenaries all of these can be provided. Bavaria is my area of focus.

After your victory I will coordinate the movements to lay siege to Bologna with every available man, keeping seperate the plagued forces, but even if a plague army must be used to capture the city it will at least be a German city once more, and we will be that much closer to eliminating the Byzantine presence in Italy.

I would like this move to be made first so that if victory is not possible, and there will be no shame if so, I can reconsider the larger picture.

(OOC: Time considerations permitting, of course.)

More suggestions will be inbound soon. If you have pertinent data, or wish to take offensive action, make yourself heard!

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

Well gentlemen, say what you want about my outburst, but at least it did generate some activity in this dump.

As for the election results, I'm glad everything passed and congratulate Count von Kastilien on his victory.

As for my suggestions: Get me anywhere there are bad guys. And make sure we're not up against an elite army!

*Herrmann slightly quivers at his last sentence and remains silent for the rest of the day, clearly not paying attention to the proceedings.*

[Ramses II CP]

Count Steffen I'm quite sure you're joking as the main opposition you will face in the immediate future is that immense, if foolish, army of French Lancers. I rather expect Ruppel will be sallying to take ultimate command of the battle, but I believe you may be needed to assist him. We shall see when we hear from him.

In any case, our enemies have little other than elite armies it would seem. Either you, Hermann, or Huge de Cervole must lead Captain Gunther's men to defeat that small army in front of you, and then the lot of you will likely be placed in range of Dijon to support Ruppel when he sallies. Captain Matthias is also available for this purpose, but at last report both captain's camps were infected by the plague and should not be directly entered by a general. The garrison of Bern is available for unplagued reinforcements if you wish to use any of their militia troops at any point. I want Dijon relieved as soon as possible.

Kaiser Peter, I know you have expressed a preference to return to Bavaria, but I must ask if first I could divert you to aid Welf von Luxemburg in sieging Metz. I will provide you with most, if not all, of Welf's cavalry, which he should have little need of at the bridge.

Welf, you'll be holding the bridge. If the Kaiser will not go to Metz, I will place it under siege anyway, and the men will be allowed to retreat if the unknown force within Metz sallies and proves superior. I'm leaving Staufen with no garrison, as at least one fresh company of men will be trained there, and the citadel will need no large garrison if the bridge can be held as I expect.

If anyone hears from Ludwig von Bohmen let me know. (OOC I know he's out of town, but I thought he was going to make an attempt to lift the siege. If nothing else I may move Ludwig into range to take command against the siege and hope he gets back in time to attempt it.)

I will not be hiring ships of any kind for my own evacuation until all other offensives are complete. I'd prefer all those funds go for attacks, even if it means a difficult road for my own men.

The situations at Madgeburg and Prague are what they are. Good luck to those men.

Johann Zirn you should have little trouble with the small army in front of you, indeed you don't have to kill them at all if you think they're no threat, but I do want you in a good defensive position at the end of the season. If you believe you can take the Hungarian Benedek on and defeat him, do so. If you have specific requests as far as positioning yourself I will make them happen (Feel free to provide a screenshot).

Duke Arnold you know your business. Tell me if you want the catapults left at Ragusa or not and I'll send everything else I can north with you as far as I possible.

Viceroy Matthias, Count von Salzgitter, it would appear to me that you are well positioned. I'm sending reinforcements up the coast road from Acre, but otherwise I see little possibility of immediate offensive action in your theatre. I would love to be proven wrong.

Now if you see a suggestion for yourself above and you don't intend to follow it let me know!

God grant you all victory!

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[AussieGiant]

Duke Arnold stands as the orders from the new Chancellor are outlined

My Lords,

The votes have been cast and I'd once again like to say Lord Fritz has conducted another outstanding campaign. I wish him all the best in the coming years as Chancellor.

Chancellor,

I'll take the catapults with me. They will slow me down but they are necessary for the assault.

With that the Duke approaches Fritz, shakes him by the hand and they speak briefly in private. Arnold then takes his orders and heads for the Diet Chamber exit. A grim mood falls over him and his retinue as they depart.

There is more killing to be done.

[OverKnight]

My lords,

I am gladdened that Paris has been returned to the Reich. However, how are we to hold it? This situation strikes me as similar to what happened at Dijon, a daring attack that quickly devolved into a trap.

I believe our focus should be on the destruction of our enemies' armies in the field. Granted, raiding cities denies their income and use to the enemy, but their conquest can stretch our already thin defenses.

[_Tristan_]

Lord Steffen,

I can see your point...To be frank, I have no intention of holding Paris or any other town that I might take...

Think rather of those cities as anchorage ppoint for French armies, they will be lured to them, trying to recapture them, leaving so much men out of the field where we can then pick them out one at a time...

Be sure that I will take advantage of any mistake the French might make as they did in Paris... The French are slow learners, believe me...

I'm going to teach them... and destroy them in the process, if God is willing...

[Ramses II CP]

To be clear, this raid was authorized without the intent of holding Paris, but given the impending collapse of northern Swabia and the sheer quantity of men the French have in the field I believe the more we can force them to break up their armies the easier our commanders in the field will find victory.

I had hoped the French would drive themselves against the bridge at Metz as well, but they proved reluctant. Metz too will be captured, and this city will be held by holding the bridge against all comers.

If nothing else the large prize of florins secured will allow for some construction around the Reich in addition to our training costs.

[TinCow]

I urge the Swabian commanders to leave a tiny garrison in Paris, simply to prologue the French siege. If the city is left completely empty, they will walk back in effortlessly, while even a token garrison of a single heavily depleted regiment will delay them for at least a year, tying up more of their soldiers for longer.

[_Tristan_]

Exactly why I recruited a single unit of spearmen (they were the least expensive mercs in the area) to garrison the town as I didn't want to be trapped in Paris as Count Ruppel is in Dijon... The men manning the gates will prevent the French from gaining quick access and might force them to a prolonged siege, right where we want them...

Of course, should they take Paris and leave it once again almost undefended, it will be my pleasure to play the same trick a second time...

[TinCow]

It pleases me greatly to see that we have such wise and cunning commanders on the Swabian front. With more men like you, we will soon throw all of our enemies back into the oceans.

[OverKnight]

It seems the Russians thought they gained as much as they could through peace, and have now decided war will serve them better.

A pity for them, they could have benefited by staying clear, they had gained Oslo and Stettin as neutrals, and they could have stayed aside and taken advantage of the Poles. Now, despite the inconvenience it causes, they will suffer the same fate as our other enemies.

The Reich may encounter momentary setbacks, loss of territory or a defeat, but we will eventually triumph. And when we do, we will remember this treachery.

I wish the Franconians Godspeed against them. Make them pay.

[FactionHeir]

With the recent sackings of former Imperial settlements comes an immediate boost in wealth. I can understand that.
What I very much disagree with is the amount of Germans slaughtered or displaced in the process and the number of buildings razed, which often take many more florins to rebuild than was obtained and the setback of decades of technological development.

I demand that no settlement that was formerly part of the empire be sacked nor butchered. It is for the best of the empire.

[TinCow]

It is ironic that the 'noble' Swabians pillage their own lands, while we 'vile' Bavarians honorably occupy our lost cities. Perhaps Swabia would be better managed under Bavarian rule.

[_Tristan_]

Hughes de Cervole :

My lords,

My hatred of the French got me carried away but rest assured that only the people that collaborated with the French and got fat and rich from it suffered at my hands.

Only their assets were seized and those of the true Germans were left alone.

No building was destroyed in the process unless by riotous mobs.

From now on, and if this is the Kaiser's and the Chancellor's wish, I will refrain from such actions.

It seemed to me that our treasury had a great need of cash and I, in my simple ways, tried to help with that cause.

[Ramses II CP]

I will not restrain commanders in the field from taking such actions as they believe are necessary to ensure success. That includes sacking cities, executing our enemies in cold blood, and roughly handling rebels or other malcontents who may be nominally German citizens. It takes a firm hand to lead unruly people (continuing under his breath) ...and unruly nobles.

That being said, I do recommend against sacking cities that were formerly a part of the Reich and still have large populations of Germans. Hugo de Cervole will suffer no rebuke from me for his daring assaults on Paris or Rheims, but I will ask that Bruges and Caen be occupied peacefully if you believe that such will not hinder your operations in the field.

I suppose I should take sniping between houses over the reclamation of territory as a healthy, positive sign. Even so, there is ample room for Swabia and Bavaria to both advance together without spite.

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[FactionHeir]

Well said Fritz!

[AussieGiant]

I'm sure no one will mind me "staking" the Hungarian's in Zagreb for as long as it take to line the road from there to Budapest.

[gibsonsg91921]

No, friend Arnold. In fact, I encourage such behavior!

[AussieGiant]

Arnold

That is good to here my Kaiser.

Chancellor,

I'm concerned about the second Hungarian force lead by one of their nobles. It seems to be heading towards the Reich's interior. If I stray to far north I believe Ragusa maybe exposed.

What are your thoughts?

Once I've dealt with Zagreb I would like a strong contingent of professional regiments separated from the 2nd AHA and sent north to Johann. I will then return to Ragusa and replace those regiments with fresh one's...the lack of experience will be addressed in due course.

Are those Knights in Ragusa heading north also?

[Ramses II CP]

Indeed Duke Arnold, the cavalry from Ragusa (Sure that's what you meant, the Citadel) was added to your army as well as the catapults.

:egypt:

[AussieGiant]

Yes that is what I meant to say Lord Chancellor.

Do you have any opinion on the Hungarian force?

This offensive season is a #+%"ing frustrating endeavor Chancellor!! While offensive actions are taking place left right and centre, I'm spending my time trying not to kill any of the local population in Zagreb!!

[AussieGiant]

Duke Arnold

And while I'm here Chancellor, I'd like you to ask the Imperial Heraldry Office to cease changing my £$"£$ing name ever second year.

Inspiring, Cruel, Merciless, Mighty, Infrantryman!! It's turning into a bloody joke down here.

I've had every name under the god damn sun and there seems no end in sight!!

[TinCow]

Duke Arnold, I share your concern. Over the past few years, I heard my men calling me, in turn, the Merciless, the Mauler, and now the Mighty. The second one was my favorite, and it is a shame that I no longer hear it. Let us just hope that do not start calling either of us "the Ponce."

[Ramses II CP]

Noble lords, as you might be able to tell from my own shifting nicknames, this is a matter quite beyond my control. Your Chancellor can only do so much.

:egypt:

[Zim]

A letter arrives from Outremer

Nikosia has been captured. Some of the Greek engineers taken prisoner have told me that they developed a smaller firearm suitable for use on horseback. Such cavalry can now be recruited in Nikosia. I have been away from Germany a long time, and am not sure if such technology is in use there already. If not, I think we should start taking advantage of it. I am hoping this will give us a new counter to those damnable horsearchers so common here in Outremer.

I have included a sketch showing the equipment of one of these new "reiters",

Andreas von Salzgitter

https://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2245/image001py1.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

[Ramses II CP]

Mmm, indeed, the facility at Palermo is capable of training such, but they have seen limited use thus far in the field. I believe Prinz Dieter used some in his march north, and I have just ordered some into the Bavarian theatre, but their addition could prove quite useful in Outremer as well. I will train a company of them, along with some heavy infantry, for you at Nicosia Count von Salzgitter.

The offensive season is closed!

I note that Count Erlach has been moved into siege of Genoa (TC?) and that the Byzantines remain in position facing the Kaiser. I am frustrated that they remain, but I will attempt to position the Kaiser's army and Duke Steffen's forces so that they could potentiall aid in an assault on Genoa or in an attack on those Byzantines next season.

Also I will be moving forward with the planned motions in Swabia, sending Count Ruppel west to hold the river crossing, and Sir von Luxemburg north towards Rheims.

Sir de Cervole you will get another chance at Caen in the near future, but for now I will send you north to reinforce Count von Bohmen.

Duke Dieter you will be marched into the forest southeast of Madgeburg. Tancred will remain at the citadel.

Any other business of consequence? Make yourself heard if you have specific requests!

edit: Oh, and Duke Arnold will move to hold the bridge east of Zagreb.

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[_Tristan_]

I didn't expect to go so fast and I would like to be sent west and in hiding in the woods south of Caen

[OverKnight]

Chancellor, what is to be done about the Greek threat against Adana? Am I to proceed to the Citadel, or send a unit of horsemen ahead and lead the relief force which would arrive next year?

[Ramses II CP]

Sir de Cervole there are now two vast and experienced armies near enough to strike Antwerp, the one at Bruges and another southwest of that city. I fear our chance to strike Caen was lost this season when the French lined the road there. I too would prefer to be on an offensive footing, but Count von Bohmen and the city of Antwerp may need your aid. (Deguerra is out of town and unable to fight, so I need an active commander there. You won't be far out of range of Caen, we'll get you there, and if, as I hope, they attack the bridge you'll have a great chance to put a bloody massacre on the French.)

Viceroy Matthias my preference is for you not to enter the citadel of Adana. Given the scaricity of commanders on the ground in Outremer it is much preferable to risk that facility rather than risk our Viceroy. I have moved a few small companies into the citadel and you will lead the relief force. A small blocking force will remain at the Iron bridge, but most of the men will march with you.

Fritz von Kastilien

[AussieGiant]

Duke Arnold

While the new Reiters certainly have a nice ring to their name, they are ungodly expensive and I find they do not shoot well once you've shoved an 18 foot lance up their arse!! I suggest we concentrate on Canon as far as gunpowder regiments are concerned. Those unholy artillerymen are some of the best killers I've ever encountered!!

And your quite right Lothar...Mauler was one of the better names I've heard.

I just wonder which complete £$"%wit, in the Imperial Heraldry Office makes up these god awful names!!??

It really is quite frustrating. It's as if the bastard has nothing better to do that draw a wage and make totally preposterous shiet up!!

In fact, it would be all "fine and dandy" but the bloody bastard seems to have the ability to influence the entire god damn world.

It's not as if it's an isolated incident, if you know what I mean...

One moment I'm walking along the peer in Ragusa with some bright young tart on my arm, telling her all about Arnold the bloody Inspiring...and by Geroge did that moniker get me some crumpet!!

Then all of a sudden I'm Arnold the god damn Cruel!! Of course then I go through total £$^£ing purgatory for about 18 months. Not a single woman would even consider talking to me...then, all of a sudden I'm back in the good books because some small snotty nose kid runs up and says;

"Oh look mummy there's Arnold the Mighty!"

Then wham!!

I'm back "ON IT" boy's. I've got "MYLF's" all over me! I can't even get one night alone just to settle my thoughts, there's more rodgering going on that a rabbit burrow on weekends...

of course then the bastard decides I'm Merciless....at this point I nearly go off the deep end and simply throw myself at a line of Hungarian spears!! Luckily Grom and Bane pull me out of that depressing idea just in time to find myself now as "The Infantryman!"

The Infantryman!? On what £$%^£$ing planet does this guy get his £$%ing material from?? I mean seriously...Infantryman...I've been riding a horse since I was four and suddenly this total twat in Nuremberg decides I'm Arnold the Infantryman...what in the "wide world of medieval sport's" is going on here!!??

What's even worse now is that Infantryman gets me no women and embarrassingly it's a totally underwhelming title on the battle field...

I'm stuck half way between pulling hot foreign Diplomat wives and being so totally intimidating that now I'm neither!!!

£$^% me with a barge poll!! I need a drink!!

[TinCow]

Chancellor,

I stand ready to take the field against both the Byzantines and French next year. I swore that Bavaria would be the first Duchy to liberate all of her lands, and I will not back down from that statement. The Byzantines will be destroyed once and for all and Genoa will be recaptured immediately afterwards.

Regarding Count Erlach, I did not give him any orders to besiege Genoa. He must have made that decision on his own, for he is a bold commander. (OOC: I saw that when I loaded up the save for my battle. I thought you moved him there, because I didn't.)

[Ramses II CP]

OOC: Hrm, if I did it was not deliberate. I did consider moving forward with that siege, and decided against it due to the Byzantines, though I moved your cannon into range of Genoa. Unless someone else wants to fess up to goofing off with the save, assume it was a Chancellor's error and accept my apologies. Gibosn is still on reserve duty, so I relieved him of his command and ensconsed him in Bologna for the time being.

Has anyone heard from Stuperman lately? I don't want to delay the defensive season 48 hours for a battle that almost certainly needs to be a withdrawal and may, in fact, be my own screwup.

:egypt:

[Zim]

He's on active duty, but hasn't been online in over a week. :sweatdrop:


Has anyone heard from Stuperman lately? I don't want to delay the defensive season 48 hours for a battle that almost certainly needs to be a withdrawal and may, in fact, be my own screwup.

:egypt:

[Ramses II CP]

OOC: Okay, unless there are some objections I'm going to do the obvious thing in ~ an hour (After dinner) and withdraw Count Erlach from this battle so we can proceed.

:egypt:

[Ramses II CP]

Nobles of the Reich! Pope Pierus the Missionary has approached me about a matter of great importance. He believes the French King may have fallen afoul of an especially persuasive heretic, and may even be placing the immortal souls of all of his subjects at risk. With this in mind the Pope has asked that the Reich consider a French Crusade with the goal being none other than the wholesale elimination of the nation of France and the incorporation of her people into the Reich.

Considering the method of his appointment you can see how our influence with the Pope is very great, and I do not believe he will call for a crusade without our approval. This is not a decision for the Chancellor alone. I would like to hear from everyone on this matter!

My own opinion is that this opportunity is too great to be passed up. As usual the Papacy will provide funds to support troops involved in the crusade, which could greatly improve our financial situation. The Swabians are, if I may say so, as pious and chivalrous a collection of nobles as currently exists in any house, and well deserving to answer God's call to war. Additionally the Pope has made it known that he is not considering any Muslim cities for Crusades, and so no advantage is at stake in Outremer.

What say you?

Fritz von Kastilien

OOC: We have the option to declare a crusade for any French city, and the Pope will agree. The Swabians are some of our most chivalrous characters, so I see nothing inappropriate in their benefiting from a crusade. There would be no question of abusing the crusade mechanic, obviously, but this is a chance to increase interest again and maybe spark some controversy as well. What say you?

In particular I'd like the old hands who really 'own' KotR to speak up about it.

:egypt:

[gibsonsg91921]

Nuts to the Pope! We'll kill the French because we want to, not because some zealot tells us to!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

Kaiser, the point is that we will have the backing of outside influence, something which we have been dearly lacking for a great many years. I for one would appreciate the benefit of the faithful soldiers who would not otherwise fight for us.

I know that Count de Cervole will certainly embark on this mission. I will also volunteer my services in hopes that we cut a wide swath through France and continue to make matters worse for them.

[AussieGiant]

Duke Arnold

$%^$ it, if the god damn French want to get themselves excommunicated then lets rip the bastards a new one!!

Free troops for everyone!! Good god men, what else could we ask for.

I say "call the ball" and lets kick some frog arse!!

I'm tempted to join in actually.

[FactionHeir]

If a crusade were called, I would take up arms in the name of God and strike down our worthless foes.

[Warluster]

Chancellor; I encourage this much; such a Crusade will enable so many oppurtunities! It benefits us so much; troops the cost of armor, permission to give the French the lesson they deserve. Any such Crusade and I shall join!

I say we fight! Fight for the freedom fo our nation!

This last bit was seeminlgy yelled as the Duke jumped enthusaiasticlly up. A unknown Knight tugged him down and the Duke was tkane outside for several minutes before being brought back in.

[_Tristan_]

Lord Chancellier,

I will take up arms in the name of our Lord if only to prove true to my vows as a Templar...

If the French are the target of such a holy war, I will join gladly...

I would suggest Caen or Rennes as target the better to drive the nail into the French coffin...

[FactionHeir]

I would suggest our crusade be called on Bordeaux. It is as deep in the heart of France as we can get and will allow us to attack their frontlines from within, pinning them down from both sides.

[_Tristan_]

Be it Rennes or Bordeaux... I personnally do not care as long as it is the furthest into French territory...

I still think Rennes would be the better choice but will leave the matter i more capable hands...

[Ramses II CP]

Entering the Diet chambers Chancellor Fritz von Kastilien moves immediately to the head of the great table and addresses the functionaries and others present, who can carry word to all the nobles of the Reich.

I reproduce here two documents among some dozen more which were sent to me privately by Elberhard's former guardsman, Captain Jan. I wish them entered in the public record, for good or ill. Following them are my thoughts on this matter, and the fool who brought them to light and now lies under Lord Becker's control.


Bürgermeister Ortlein,

I have immediate need of a goodly sum of money for extensive repairs to the walls and fortifications of the Duchy’s great cities. I require that you raise, in all haste, the sum of 50,000 florins for this purpose. I care not what means you use, though I encourage you to look to our Milanese subjects first and foremost. Taxation, repossession, and confiscation are all acceptable, so long as the monies are ready by the 9th day of next month.

I will take delivery of this sum personally at my residence in Florence. It is also my explicit order that this taxation not be recorded in the books. This is a private levy of funds, it is not intended for the Bavarian Treasury. The Steffen family retainers will see to the repairs; there is no need to involve outside parties. Marking it in the books would simply confuse matters and ensure that the subtotals did not add up properly when they are checked on the first day of the New Year.

I have faith you will have no problems carrying out these orders. If you accomplish them without error, there is a large estate outside Ajaccio that is in need of a new Lord. Perhaps warmer weather would help with that cough of yours.

Lothar Steffen
Duke of Bavaria


Captain Schneider,

The sum you have demanded is in the custody of the man bearing this note. We have checked the chests personally and have ensured that all 50,000 florins are in place. You are, of course, free to count them yourself. Do not fret yourself about the money being traced. Those who contributed it are not likely to speak up, nor would any German lend them an ear even if they did.

We expect the matter to be carried out promptly and competently. No doubt is to be left as to the survival of S. Use whatever method of butchery you feel necessary to ensure that there is no life left in his body. A simple decapitation is usually effective, but we know your reputation for the dramatic, so we will allow a bit of artistic license if you wish it.

The man who carries this note is also a competent scout and he shall aid you in the tracking. We have received word that S shall be returning from Constantinople in the next few weeks to address the Diet in person. That will surely make his route predictable and allow him to be intercepted at an opportune spot.

Make sure that your men disperse after the attack and instruct them not to speak of it or to spend their payment until they have departed the Reich. The Order will be greatly displeased if we have to clean up any mess left behind by your men. Do not fail us, or we shall have to write a similar note to the man charged with your death.

Voice
*Below the strange signature is a small mark written in red ink. It is an oval, or perhaps an eye, inside a pyramid.*

I feel no great wish to impugn the dead here, but I will make it known that my opinion was previously that, at best, Kaiser Elberhard was the tool of traitors in service to Byzantium. It was not within the realm of my imagination that a German noble could raise hands against another. It would appear that I was either very wrong, or the former Kaiser's plan was much, much deeper than I imagined.

It is curious to my mind that just as the last army of the Greeks is about to be expelled from Italy that this convoluted, complicated, one might even say Byzantine plot surfaces regarding the assassination of my brother.

A strange light has come into the Chancellor's eyes, and though his face remains impassive it begins to darken somehow.

Having said that, the evidence presented is compelling. There are several sources claimed for the documents, some of which can be independently verified. I have no choice but to take them at face value.

Without seeming to move in any way, without using a single muscle, Fritz's visage suddenly fills with black rage.

Know this! Whomever is responsible, your time is at an end. I have let this matter go by the wayside for too long while I struggled to push forward the Reich, but blood calls to blood.

By God I call Lothar Steffen to come forward and answer these charges immediately. His aids, allies, and servants too are called to account. You have found great success under my brother, the Kaiser, and I, the Chancellor, these past few years Lothar. I pray that you have some answer for these hideous charges, something that exonerates you. I pray that you bring it forward quickly.

Long restrained anger, and pure malevolent menace pour out in Fritz's words now. There is, perhaps, even a hint of madness.

For if you have not... know that I will have your head. I will burn your retainers at the stake. I will crucify your soldiers until the peasants of Bavaria wonder at the forests of screaming men. I will tear down your cities and exterminate any hole that gives you shelter. Though Heaven itself stand between us, I will conquer it and call you to account for the death of Siegfried.

If the Chancellor's words carry any sway, there will never be a trial. I have seen enough that, unless Lothar can give me answer, every power at my disposal will be bent to his destruction. If you would wrest these powers from me, you will be aligning yourself with my enemies, and placing your men at his side, and your cities at the same risk as his. Do not imagine that I will set aside control of the resources of the Chancellorship to settle this debt.

For a moment the dominating fury recedes from Fritz.

Any who would stand aside from this conflict, stand aside! Declare your neutrality, stand your ground in the field, and speak no further until I have settled this dispute. Be aware that your every word can place you in danger. I will root out this vile plague into the very ground from which it springs, burn it's vines and stretching lengths to ashes, and salt the earth it once grew in.

The Reich's armies are suspended from offensive action. Men at march may be subject to assault, or to being taken in irons, if they have not clearly declared their loyalty to me first. The Reich's nobles are also ordered to make their loyalties known, or to risk capture or death. This is an order which has thrived in darkness and shadow, to drag it into the light will require extraordinairy measures of us all.

Chancellor Fritz von Kastilien

[TinCow]

*Lothar Steffen stands.*

Frauds. Forgeries. Those documents have been manufactured by someone, or some group of people, who are clearly interested in ruining me. My actions in defence of the Reich speak for themselves. If you choose to believe circumstantial evidence and a few swirls of ink over the word of a Duke of the Reich, then I doubt there is much more I can say that will change your mind.

*Lothar's eyes narrow.*

I respect you, Chancellor von Kastilien, but know that I will not stand for idle threats and coercions. You had best cease your accusations and go about the business of your position. I am by no means defenseless, and it would sadden me greatly to have to dispose of one of the more competent Chancellors the Reich has ever seen.

[OverKnight]

As the situation develops, there is a hushed but animated conversation among the few Outremer functionaries in the Diet. A messenger is soon dispatched from the Chamber, running for the next ship.

[gibsonsg91921]

Lothar Steffen, these documents were found in the possession of a Milanese assassin by Count Edmund Becker. These are not forgeries, and our experts in the royal palace, Bavarian experts, can determine as such.

Lothar Steffen, if you do not come quietly, I shall take you by force.

I, Péter von Kastilien, call an Emergency Diet Session to authorize me to strip you of your title of Duke of Bavaria in favor of Herrmann Steffen.

CA E3.1 - If a noble, be it a Count, Duke, Viceroy, Army Commander, Knight, or one of any title with right to vote in this Diet, conspires against the state and due evidence is brought up, they may be stripped of their title by the Kaiser.

CA E3.2 - If a Duke is stripped of their title due to conspiracy against the state, the Kaiser may choose his successor.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

God damn it! God damn this! God damn you all for bringing this back into the light!

Are we really going to drop everything and fight another bloody civil war over this? Need I remind you gentlemen what happened the last time this issue was brought up? It's interesting how I, who was underage at the time of the Cataclysm, seem to remember it best.

But no, apparently that doesn't matter. To hell with the rest of the Reich, there's blood to be settled. Never mind that we are still reeling from the effects of the Cataclysm, never mind that disunity now would plunge us back into mortal peril, never mind any of that! You men who should know better need to thump your chests and say that you avenged your honor! So yeah, go ahead and do that. Go ahead and do that while the Reich burns, gentlemen.

I'm sick of all of this. If you need me, I'll be doing something that matters, like organizing a push into France. Hopefully it will be well done enough to keep the French away while you children play out your little blood feud.

[TinCow]

Milanese? I do hope you tortured the fellow after you got your hands on him. The Milanese are notorious liars and frauds. They are also known to hate the Reich with a passion due to our destruction of their short-lived independence. Have you forgotten that I have previously shown this Diet evidence that the Milanese themselves were behind the assassination of Kaiser Siegfried? It makes perfect sense that they would now falsify evidence to try and harm the Reich further. They hate Bavaria above all other Duchies, since we control all of their former lands. That makes me the perfect target for this conspiracy they are engaged in. Do not let yourself be drawn into it, Péter.

[gibsonsg91921]

If you recall, Lothar Steffen, Hans had an investigation of his own after the death of Siegfried, before you could conduct yours, stating that a prominent member of Bavaria was behind this. However, you were so bold and swift as to have your own investigation, casting away the blame from yourself and onto the Milanese. The Milanese are all but extinct, and fools in battle. I do not think them capable of assassinating the Emperor of Germany in her prime.

Herrmann, if your father is a man and comes clean, there shall be no need for blood. If he sees it appropriate to fight over it and start a civil war, he shall get one.

[Ramses II CP]

Lothar Steffen, if you have evidence to present in counter to what the Diet records hold then bring it forth! I have heard, and even accepted, the excuse that the documents from your previous investigation were lost with Florence, but Florence has now been recovered. Is there anything you can offer this body or me personally that will demonstrate your innocence?

I do not need to hear anything further about forgeries. The documents in question form a self supporting web, and the man in Lord Becker's possession would have to have been paid in God's own coin to come forward and confess killing my brother. Lord Becker will not hold him forever, and when I get him the rest of his long, long life will be spent begging for death.

Hermann Steffen, I ask that you declare your loyalties in some haste! If you are neutral, as you suggest, and intend to stand aside and hold ground against the French then be explicit. I don't want to suggest that a man must fall in the shadow of his father, but unless you speak clearly to your intent your actions will be suspect. The assassination of a former Kaiser, and most especially my brother, is not a matter that can be swept back under a rug.

Mein Kaiser, I am not prepared to believe that a trial will serve justice. How long has this matter lain still under the rough waters of the Reich? Will we leave it to other men to settle the blood debt of the von Kastiliens?

What's more, how deep does the conspiracy go? Your correspondence on this matter suggests to me that there may be rot in many houses.

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

If I explicitly declare neutrality, as you wish, Chancellor, then I have given into the feud already. I will not fall into your trap. I will not lend credibility to any side of this conflict. The Reich cannot afford any more of this.

[TinCow]

I regret that I have nothing to produce except my word. As you all know, my pride and treasure was the Florentine Pleasure Palace. I worked for years to have it constructed and I chose it for my personal offices, due to the security and privacy that I knew it could provide. We all know that it was completely destroyed by the Byzantines at some point during their occupation of the city. Any evidence that I once had that could aid my case was lost when that building was razed. I am thus forced to rely only on my word to prove my case.

I will say this.

I swear before God Almighty and upon the soul of my glorious and noble father, Duke Gerhard Steffen, that I, Duke Lothar Steffen, have never in my life committed an act that was intended to harm the Reich. I swear that everything I have done throughout my life has been for the good of all citizens of our lands. I vow that I will continue to protect the people and act in their best interests, no matter what the personal cost to myself.

I will have the head of any man who says that my oath is false in any way.

[gibsonsg91921]

Ha. Not harm the Reich is subjective - in assassinating my brother you harmed the Reich more than anyone ever could, plunging us into bitter inner turmoil. Conspiring against Hans? We both saw Hans as a political threat, but the most brilliant commander the Reich has ever seen was hardly a physical threat to anyone but our enemies. On the other hand, I often find I agree with your method of politics, yet you are a greater threat to peace than any member of this body.

Can you swear on your father's grave and before God that you were in no way involved with the assassination of Siegfried von Kastilien? Bravado you have, manhood you have none.

[_Tristan_]

I swear before God Almighty and upon the soul of my glorious and noble father, Duke Gerhard Steffen, that I, Duke Lothar Steffen, have never in my life committed an act that was intended to harm the Reich. I swear that everything I have done throughout my life has been for the good of all citizens of our lands. I vow that I will continue to protect the people and act in their best interests, no matter what the personal cost to myself.


Duc Steffen,

Your oath is so loosely worded that indeed no one could prove you commit parjury while uttering it...

You seem more a vile lawyer with that oath than a respectable general and noble of the Reich...

[gibsonsg91921]

OOC: My Emergency Diet Session CA's need seconders...

[TinCow]

I have never committed treason against the Reich, as everything I have ever done has been for the good of all. I will continue to do these good works until my dying breath. The Reich is more important than any individual Elector, no matter what office he may hold. If you disagree with that, then you are a traitor to our people.

I am accused of the assassination of Kaiser Siegfried. Even if it was true that I was involved in such an act, would that really have been a crime? Kaiser Siegfried was single-handedly responsible for the disasters of the cataclysm. He unilaterally pursued that absurd policy of Unification, even though nearly every Elector was opposed to it. He gave away numerous provinces to our rivals and converted most of Outremer to a heathen religion! Under the circumstances, I believe that Siegfried was the greatest traitor the Reich has ever seen. Any actions were justifiable to prevent him from further harming our people. Whomever killed him, I applaud them and would gladly offer them a banquet in Florence.

Wearing a crown and being given the title of Kaiser does not make a man noble, nor does it make his actions proper. Need I remind this body of how Siegfried came to his crown in the first place? How many of you really believe that good Kaiser Jobst von Salza truly named that unknown and low-ranked Franconian to be his successor when he fell on the field of battle? Not even Hans believed that! Siegfried fabricated his claim to obtain the Throne, and then used his position to betray the Reich! Can any of you honestly say that Siegfried was a good Kaiser who benefited the people? Even Siegfried's own brother, Kaiser Péter, opposed his actions.

[gibsonsg91921]

Siegfried was a poor Kaiser, yet there is no proof of his fabrication of his claims. A Council of Dukes resolved that matter. He was a fool and inept, yet there are ways other than treason of putting an end to idiocy, ways I am no stranger too.

[TinCow]

Such as betraying the Kaiser and marching to sack the capitol of our 'allies' the Byzantines? How can those actions be noble when they resulted in a war between two nations that has taken the lives of countless thousands of loyal Germans, while the death of Siegfried was the killing of a single man, but so heinous that civil war is once again threatened over it?

[AussieGiant]

The voice of the herald announces the arrival of Duke Arnold and retinue.

There is are three long echoing knocks on the Chamber door.
What follows is a troops of black clad guards and the Duke's personal retinue armed to extreme levels.

Smiling broadly the Duke walks steadily into the Chamber. Making a bow to the Kaiser he then nods his head at the Chancellor and a few others.

Gentlemen,

I've been brought up to speed on my way here and it seems we need to calm the #$%^#$ down just a little at this time.

Before any man's liberties are threatened or even attempted to be removed...

That statement is followed by the black gauntleted hand falling on the pommel of his sword.

Why don't we start following some type of process here!!

Those aggrieved parties, whoever they are, should be making specific official and evidence backed accusations at this time. I don't see any of that right now.

All I see is a a bunch of assumptions, accusations and hearsay supported by some words written on paper.

At the risk of sounding like one of my most hated lawyers;

Just who the #$#%^ing hell is being charged with what!!??

And what is the evidence supporting it!!?

And finally, are we going to allow justice in the form of accusation and defence or simply another free for all!!?

I'd like a free for all because I'm in need of some killing to get rid of this #$%#ing awful moniker!!

Gazing around the Diet Chamber, the Duke unsheathes his dagger and begins to clean his nails.

In a quite voice Arnold says to no one in particular while concentrating on his nail cleaning.

And I'd suggest everyone threatens each other a little less in the next few hours...

[Northnovas]

Johann Zirn

A tired, a bit ragged looking man stands from the Austrian bench. Nodding to his Duke in a half hearted agreement.

Nobles,

This indeed a serious matter and I am shocked at the allegations presented by the Chancellor but do not question the authenticity of the documents or the Kaiser’s call fro an Emergency Diet. However, to let the Chancellor’s words stand without trial we need a deliberated and methodical look at the facts. Please let’s not rush into this and see what Duke Steffen can bring to answer to these charges.

We must also remember that we are at war. There was talk of asking his Holiness for a Crusade against the French. I thought this a bold and strategic move by the Chancellor. Young Steffen has asked are we to fight each other and forget about the enemies at our door. Do we loose Swabia to the French, Austria to the Hungarians, Franconia to the Poles and the Byzantines regain Italy? We can’t let this happen!!

We must continue to fight because our enemies are not going to wait and let us settle our internal matters.

Chancellor, I am for an investigation and my Kaiser you have my loyalty to the Reich but I will not be distracted with internal affairs when the enemy is knocking on my door.

[Ferret]

I second both CAs.

There doesn't need to be a civil war, all I that is needed is the death of one murderous man. We have all heard the rumours about him and those with any sense can see he is not a valuable asset to the Reich. If we let him live he can control this nation, any man who opposes him can be killed, we cannot let him get away with this.

[gibsonsg91921]

Indeed - Johann and Herrmann are correct. The investigation must continue, but not at the expense of the Reich.

I shall take command of Lothar's army, with him as my second-in-command. We will defend Italy and the Reich together until this is solved. Until then, Herrmann Steffen shall be Steward of Bavaria.

Count Edmund Becker, who is in possession of the evidence and the assassin, shall conduct the investigation as he is impartial, with no personal gain either way.

Emergency Session is adjourned. Fritz, see to it that I take command of Lothar's army. I will keep him close.

[Ramses II CP]

Fritz von Kastilien rises from his place with a fresh demeanor of calm.

I will confess to having spoken in haste, in no small part due to my own guilt at having set aside the matter of my brother's death as settled. There are times when the need to act overcomes the need to know in me.

I am greatly displeased, however, to see the recent comments of Lothar Steffen. Siegfried was a poor Kaiser and leader, his claim to the throne was originally suspect, though later verified, and his surrendering of territories to Byzantium was extremely ill advised, as was his assent to the Unification plan.

And it matters not one whit.

He was my brother! My blood!

His murderers will begin their punishment here, on earth, under my own hands. I vow it. Any who give shelter or protection to the murderers, any who act to deny me my natural right to vengeance as Siegfried's older brother, and any who would seek to subvert justice will go into the same stew as my enemies.

If Kaiser Peter wishes there to be a trial, then let there be a trial. If titles and lands are of some relevance, let them be taken. At the end of the process, though, my hands will know the necks of my brother's killers. Including the man Lord Becker holds. And no walls, no prisons, no judges, and no armies will bar my way.

Fritz returns to his seat, still calm, but with a gaze full of darkness and the promise of blood.

:egypt:

[gibsonsg91921]

Fritz, you shall have to save some of the murderers for me.

Do not resort to rash action yet. Any conspirators will be needed to be tried. This Jacobus Stoyan must be questioned by Becker.

Lothar and I will go on the crusade as the Greek threat has been neutralized in Italy. I do not crusade in the name of the Pope, but rather the doom of the French.

[Cecil XIX]

*Edmund Becker strides into the Diet.*

Noble Electors, forgive me for my late entry. I have been making accomodations for the mercenary who participated in Kaiser Siegfried's assassination. He is safe, and ready to stand trial. His is not Milanese, he is a Bohemian who has lived as a mercenary outside of his homeland for most of his life.

We are not liars and frauds.

As for the accusations, they are simple. Duke Lothar Steffen stands accused of plotting and fundng the murder of Kaiser Siegfried I. The evidence presented are the twelve documents, independantly verified with many bearing Duke Lothar's handwriting, as well as the testimony of one Jacobus Stoyan, the aforesaid mercenary.

I stand ready to begin the investigation into these crimes. (OOC: How exactly does that work?) I know I will have the full confidence of Bavaria and Franconia, both of whom I have rendered aid to in the past.

[AussieGiant]

Leaning against the inside of the Austria bench and therefore able to take the centre position when needed at a moments notice, Arnold points his dagger at Duke Bresch.

Who the @#$%# are you talking about Bresch?

As I pointed out earlier, snide comments and unsubstantiated claims of death are a dangerous business.

Why don't you place those gold plated balls of yours on your forehead man and tell everyone here who you are accusing?

Coming off the bench and pacing a little way into the chamber centre, the Duke turns to face all parts of the Diet.

I've still not seen any formal charge and I'm unsure exactly which part of the charter allows a Kaiser to selected a Ducal Steward without the respective Dukes consent. Given that lack of process here and the decisions that are being made based on this lack of a case, I'm inclined to march the 2nd AHA to the very walls outside just to ensure my liberty and freedom to speak.

At this point the Dread Duke's voice raises substantially.

The letter of the law should be at observed under extreme times my Lords, we must at least try and separate ourselves from the #$ing barbarian's we have come from and especially when we are hard pressed!!

The fire in his eyes is clear for all to see as Arnold places his hands on the scribes desk.

Siegfried was our Kaiser and for that I gave him my loyalty and my oath, but he was also a #$%#ing disgrace in my opinion!! Any man that disagrees is following his heart and not his head!! Blood bonds aside, and I can feel for our Chancellor in this regard, it was the beginning of where we stand today that was brought on by him and him alone!!

The one thing I have realised at my age is that our exalted positions require us to "think" before we make judgements and take action...

I demand "due process" or I'll start taking what I want and crushing those that wish to exert the idea of sheer power on this Chamber or its nobles.

I can conduct myself either way with equal success so I do not mind.

Smashing his steel encased hand on the hard wood shatters the desk.

I want the man named who is accusing Duke Lothar and I want the charges laid out here and now before any further arbitrary decision are made. Otherwise I'll feel compelled to make my own arbitrary moves in response.

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Damn I missed it by 6 minutes. Assume I said all this before Becker arrived.

[AussieGiant]

Duke Arnold

At least Lord Becker has outlined the issue finally.

Do we have someone personally tabling this accusations or is it simply "The Reich?"

I would like to view these documents and have the man present himself here in this Chamber for questioning.

Raising an eyebrow at Becker

And exactly how independent are you Lord Becker? Are there any "new" developments I should know about?

[Ferret]

If the Lord had decided to give a single grain of intelligence when you were born then you would see that it is obvious who I speak of. Have you yet realised who this emergency session is about?

[OverKnight]

At the news that an Emergency Session started, another messenger was dispatched to Outremer, when it was halted, another messenger was quickly sent after the first.

[gibsonsg91921]

I accuse Lothar Steffen of conspiracy in the death of Siegfried von Kastilien. The evidence, 12 documents in the possession of Becker and the testimony of asssassin Jacobus Stoyan.

Lothar Steffen will be unable to carry out his duties as Duke while in my custody. Hence, his heir and son shall be Steward.

I take command again of the army I brought to Lothar in light of this evidence, and Lothar shall stay in the army with me, all with the authorization of the Chancellor.

Apologies for the confusion, Arnold. Everything I have done is within my power.

[TinCow]

While in your custody? I will not submit myself to your false authority! You have no legal right to do any such thing. You are arranging a show trial on the word of treacherous Milanese and falsified documents! Under those circumstances I will never permit any man who proclaims himself my enemy to set foot within my camp. Do not fool yourself into thinking that any Bavarian army will heed your word over mine. I have ruled this Duchy for longer than any Duke in the Diet, excepting Arnold.

If you wish to have a proper, civilized trial to discuss these false accusations, I shall play along with the farce. However, if any man attempts to restrain me or take control of any Bavarian army, I shall resist with every resource at my disposal. I assure you, Electors, that I have extensive resources. Shall I remind you that this very Diet itself meets in Nuremburg? I would not recommend testing the loyalty of the oldest of Bavaria's provinces. You will not like the result.

[gibsonsg91921]

It is no Bavarian army, friend Lothar, but an army I brought to Italy to finish off the Greeks. Your army? Nay, the army in question comes from Swabia and is mine.

It is not the word of the Milanese anymore, as evidence now shows. Jacobus Stoyan is Bohemian. For this reason he was put in captivity in Prague. You will not be in true custody, merely kept close to me by being my second-in-command. What will you do? Assassinate me, too? Quit throwing a temper tantrum so we can have a dignified and fair trial with the electors acting as a jury. It is more than you deserve, you glorified pig snout.

[TinCow]

I will be second to no one within my own Duchy. You think I would foolish enough to ride into battle alongside you, when you very clearly want my death? You may think many things of me, Peter, but surely you don't think me a fool. If you wish to discuss this, we can do so, but it will have no impact on the command or composition of the Bavarian armies. You have no authority to assume command of my men and I will not allow it.

[gibsonsg91921]

Lothar, if you heard me properly, the CA was to strip you of your power, not kill you. We'll see what a fair trial decides.

[Cecil XIX]

My lords, the investigation is now open. Very soon I will begin privately contacting persons of interest in order to obtain leads of inquiriy and testimony.

Before I can proceed however, I must obtain the confidence of both parties and be given the authority of the Diet. In order to do so I will define the terms of my investigation and lay out my credentials.

The purpose of my investigation is to determine whether or not Lothar Steffen, Duke of Bavaria, is in any way responsible for the death of Siegfried von Kastilien, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. If I find Lothar Steffen is responsible, I will submit my charges and the matter will go to trial. If not, than let us consider the matter closed. Duke Lothar will be considered innocent until proven guilty, and my final opinion will be either Guilty, Not Guilty, or Charge Not Proven.

Let all those who wish to testify, but fear retribution, seek shelter in Prague. Bohemia shall provide a neutral safe haven for all aspects of this investigation.

Now then, Kaiser Peter. Do I, Edmund Becker, who has fought in the defense of your lands in addition to my own, and whose family the von Mahrens you have been a friend of all your life, do I have your full confidence?

And you, Duke Lothar. Do I, Edmund Becker, who has come to the aid of your lands in times past, and whose Duke and sworn superior you are good friends with, do I have your full confidence?

If so, I ask the the Kaiser to re-declare an Emergency Session to pass a Charter Amendment giving my actions and my terms the full authority of this august body.

...

Let this matter, which has been brought to our attention for the sake of justice and honor at the expense of expediancy and survival, be conducting in such a manner that justice is done be eyes of the Lord. I, Count Edmund Becker of Bohemia, swear that it shall be so.

[gibsonsg91921]

You have my full confidence, Edmund.

I declare a brief Diet session with absentee voting and seconding to confirm Becker's terms.

Edict E4.1 - Edmund Becker is authorized to conduct the investigation of Siegfried's assassination and the possible relation to Lothar Steffen as defined by his terms in Diet minutes VII.484.

[Cecil XIX]

Mein Kaiser, if a normal Edict is preferable to you and acceptable to Duke Lothar than let it be so.

[TinCow]

I will agree to this. Even though Count Becker's loyalty to his own Duke has not been flawless, he has been a friend to Bavaria in the past. A man with something to hide might scorn a judge who had publicly rebuked his Duke and sought shelter under a Kaiser's protection. However, given that I am completely innocent, I know I have nothing to fear from such an investigation.

Count Becker, I trust that you will be able to properly differentiate between truth and lies. I assure you, there is bound to be a great deal of both in this trial. Not all of it may come from the directions you expect. Be wary.

[_Tristan_]

Not that the matter of the trial is settled, can we go on with our conquests and dealing with our "enemies", as suggested by Lord Herrman Steffen ?

Whatever the outcome of this trial, I expect nothing good to come of it...

I wish good luck to Count Becker to try convoluted truths from elaborated lies...

Lastly, I don't expect any of the parties, either accusation or defendant, to accept the judgment that will be delivered without resorting to violence at one point...

Perhaps you should go back to the ways of some of your ancestors, the Northmen, and settle this matter in a hölmganga (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/holmgang.shtml) : a duel to the death between two contestants...

[Ramses II CP]

Setting aside my personal interest in this matter, as Chancellor I must ask if Duke Steffen will be taken into custody or will be permitted to fight in the field? My last orders on the matter were to place Kaiser Peter in overall command of Duke Steffen's force and join them both to the (potential) Crusade. I must know if this still holds force.

Speaking as a von Kastilien, I wish to make it known that I consider Lord Becker's judgement and loyalties suspect, his eventual verdict irrelevant, and my blood debt to be of higher priority. Nonetheless, I will pay close attention to this trial and will form my own conclusion about the guilt or innoncence of the subject. I will warn all concerned parties against attempting to guard any guilty parties, including this Bohemian mercenary, against facing justice at my hands.

Your recent campaign has been of great benefit to the Reich and Franconia, Lord Becker, and I congratulate and honor your for it, but I cannot so easily set aside the spector of who you may serve, especially in light of your actions during the Cataclysm. I pray that you see the wisdom in standing aside when I come to collect my due.

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[TinCow]

I thank you for your suggestion, Elector de Cervole. Be assured, though, that we Romans have traditions of our own. A proper Roman hölmganga has already been going on for some time now. Though the action may be a bit slower than that of our northern neighbors, I promise you that the end result will be far more entertaining for the audience.

Chancellor, I see no need to go on a crusade against the French. I will not depart Bavaria until all foreign armies are cleared from our lands. Genoa and Ajaccio remain occupied, so I will see to them first before dealing with those western fops. If the Kaiser wishes to depart for France, he is of course free to do so and will ride with my blessing.

[AussieGiant]

Given it has already been stated that nobles shall be "innocent until proven guilty" I simply can not see any punitive action being warranted at this time towards Duke Lothar!!

Any action taken at this time to limit, provisionally arrest, or otherwise prevent any Duke or noble from conducting his duties is an admission that "due process" is not being followed and therefore we may as well have a "Trial of Arms" in the tourney field.

And believe you me I'll take any bastard on out on the field.

Let me also remind some of you to read AND understand the law and edicts were are bound by.

I've noted about half a dozen completely unconstitutional attempts at disregarding the law and the checks and balances that we have given our oath to uphold!!!

If men at the very top wish to disregard edicts and Charter Amendments so frivolously then how do we hope to ask our country men to follow us, OR for that matter look each other in the eye and expect to move on from this issue!!

Cast aside our Empires structure at your own risk my Lords!!

We will descend into chaos once more if we DO!!!

Then...only the strongest will survive!!

[gibsonsg91921]

I will be taking over my cavalry part of the army and waiting on a legal army to be trained. I shall not go on crusade, or anywhere, if Lothar is not there. I will shadow his army, and not attack any enemies until my army is legal for field action, but if he does anything to circumvent the law, I shall not be bound to it either and I will take him into custody.

[TinCow]

Those conditions are fair, Péter. I suggest you make you men ready for the road, though, as I plan to ride against the Byzantines and French this season.

[Ramses II CP]

I will make it so, and when the offensive season opens Duke Steffen should have the range to strike both forces while Kaiser Peter trails him.

Fritz von Kastilien

:egypt:

[AussieGiant]

Excellent.

At least we can pretend to be civil to each other while our own Reich and the rest of the world looks on in interest at how we deal with each other.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

Count Ruppel, I must protest. The goal of the Crusade was to hit France as hard as possible, not end the stupid thing in two days! I demand that you withhold on your assault on Angers until the rest of us who have volunteered catch up and lend our assistance.

I am frankly shocked at the selfishness of this entire maneuver. And don't give me any crap about the soldiers being enthusiastic. You're a better disciplinarian than that.

[_Tristan_]

Hughes de Cervole :

I have the same feeling about this as Lord Steffen...

Now I can see why Count Ruppel pushed to have Angers as a Crusade target...

Not to make the French pay for their heresies, but to claim glory for himself...

[FactionHeir]

OOC: Angers was chosen in an OOC discussion, not IC, so it makes no sense for you to mention it ICly. Ruppel pushed for Bordeaux ICly. :tongue2:

I cannot believe that noble men such as yourself would denounce another for joining the crusade and taking up the banner against the heretical French. When God calls, we as good Christians must, as true men of Christ, answer with conviction, not sit at home like womenfolk! Clearly you must lack the piety and zeal this most holy mission requires, seeing how you dare call a crusade "the stupid thing" and ought to remain under your bed!

The offensive season is still long and you will all have the opportunity to join the crusade and myself at Angers before the end of the year, if you have the guts to do so!

[AussieGiant]

At least my advancing years are not going to be wasted sitting in this Chamber with nothing to laugh at.

Now we have sniping about how the Crusade should be handled.

I remember when everything was so much clearer...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Herrmann Steffen:

Taking Angers is not the point! The point is using the Crusade to gain the extra soldiers and slowly, methodically, work our way to the Citadel, taking everything along the way. It was never a race!

Ruppel, getting to Angers first might win you some glory, especially after being holed up in Dijon for so long, but the long-term consequences for the French will be little. All you will have earned for yourself is another hornet's nest.

As for me, I am going to take my time, organize my soldiers, and hit other French targets along the way to Angers, as this mission was designed to do. I will get to your location after all of this is completed. It is precisely this disorganization and lack of coordination that has hurt us so much in the first place.