Mount Effect?

[Mykingdomforanos]

Does this only affect melee combat, or do missile units with like -2 horse do less missile damage to cavalry?

Im assuming its melee only as that would seem more logical

[Mykingdomforanos]

Does anyone know this? I might have explained it wrong.

In the export_descr_unit.txt it says:

mount_effect
Factors to add when in combat against enemy units that have the specified mounts
Up to three factors may be specified, which may be classes of mount, or specific types

Wondering if "combat" refers only to melee ,or missile also?

I guess its meant to be melee only as for instance some archers have -2 to horse

[Ymarsakar]

This is the description from the Scriptorium on the EDU file.

Unit's bonuses against mounted units (if any). There can be bonuses against horses, elephants, chariots and camels.The bonus may be against an entire class of mounts (eg elephants) in which case it's applied versus all of the types of the class or against only a specific type (eg 4amount mumak), but type-bonus stacks with class-bonus. They are applied directly and stack with any other bonuses, like ones derived from spear attributes. Note that these are modifiers to the unit's attack and that they will be applied to a secondary weapon too if one exists. Max number of valid mount effects is 3, extra will be ignored.

[Mykingdomforanos]

Ah sorry, I didnt know the Scriptorium existed, thank you

So most archers have negative modifiers to cav, not just when they are in melee getting run over - damn

[Ymarsakar]

Ah sorry, I didnt know the Scriptorium existed, thank you

So most archers have negative modifiers to cav, not just when they are in melee getting run over - damn

Given that many of the skirmishers and archers have bonuses against elephants and chariots, they would only be of use if that bonus applied to missile fire as well. Although if you really wish to know, you can use the multiplayer edu file and test it out in custom battle. Get a unit of elephants, find an archer unit that you know the mount effect against elephants, then set up 4 archer units with an elephant as the enemy. Using the elephant's armored value, which is the only thing it can defend against arrow fire with, try and see how many volleys will take down an elephant if the missile attack value is lower/higher/same as the elephant's armor value.

[Danest]

Interestingly enough, Caucasian archers seem to be different -- they get bonuses against cavalry.

[Ymarsakar]

The description text for Caucasian archers describes what Xenophon said about the Caucasian archers using some arrows that were longer or maybe heavier.