favorite faction

[Caeser The III]

please vote your favorite faction, i if i forgot one just tell me and ill edit,(if i can)

[vegetable]

The Seleucid Empire (of those I've played so far, i.e. the Roman ones and the Seleucid Empire).

Large variety of units, money pours in like there's no tomorrow once you conquer Egypt, good variety in your early enemies (Egypt are tough to beat, as are the other Greeks). And I usually play rather slowly, yet I finished the long campaign by 237BC. So yeah, they're excellent.

[Paradox]

The Berbers, Greek Cities/Macedon, and Rome.

[guineawolf]

Mighty Carthage!!!i love their standard custome and square shield of libyan and poeni!:2thumbsup:

[Charge]

Of course Rome! Julii in particular...

[Barbarian]

Of course Rome! Julii in particular...

The same. Also the first faction I played

[Paradox]

Speaking of the Julii, why is it that you can't play as Gaius Julius Caesar in the Imperial Campaign?

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Speaking of the Julii, why is it that you can't play as Gaius Julius Caesar in the Imperial Campaign?Although you can't play as Julius Caesar in the Imperial Campaign, the original CA plan was to include a Provincial Campaign (basically a small campaign focused on a certain region) which focused upon his conquest of Gaul. In the end this was unfortunately dropped due to a lack of time time to implement it.

~:)

[Paradox]

That would've been great, it would've been more realistic for you to start by unifying your own region before going on to conquer the world. IIRC, he was included in the tutorial right?

[Lysander13]

Greek Cities and Macedon.....Although, i hated the way they were portrayed in Vanilla RTW....Thank the gods for EB!!!

[Monsieur Alphonse]

Carthage, Greek Cities and Macedon. I like all of these three.

[vegetable]

Playing as the Julii is kind of boring. At the start you usually just fight barbarians.

I started with the Julii, but after a while my save games got corrupted somehow. So I abandoned that and never completed the campaign.
Then tried the Brutii, played for a bit and got bored. They get to fight Greece and Macedon though, so it's great.
Then when I got around to giving it a go again, I chose the Scipii and finished the campaign with them. Carthage was the only cool enemy then.

I also think that if you run around the other Roman factions and capture the territories they're looking to expand into, they kind of get stuck and don't really expand, making them easy pickings when the confrontation with Rome arrives.
For example, I conquered the northern Italian territories with the Scipii and the Julii never went past those Patavium, etc. provinces. So when I attacked Rome, they hardly had 4-5 provinces.

[Shieldmaiden]

Britannia, aut vincere aut mori.

Let loose the Chariots, and let Gaul and Rome kek in fear at the thunder of the Britons! :horn:

[Hound of Ulster]

The realm of the King of Kings, Parthia!
but only in SPQR and RTR.
the Greek Cities, scythia/samaritia, the Gauls, Britiannia, and Julii/Rome also get a look-in as well.

In BI i go Sassinisd, Eastern Empire, the Goths and the Celts.

[mrdun]

Romans all the way. Julii and Scipii over Brutii though. Has anyone noticed the battle map units go a little strange near Corinth? especially when chasing routers?

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Definitely the Kingdom of the Parthians!!! Some of the World's greatest cavalry, and an excuse to be sneaky, underhanded and backstabbing. And its an acheivement to come from nowhere to rule the world!
(Or maybe I'm just biased cos I did):embarassed:

[missik]

Greek Cities would be my favourite followed by Gauls.

[Galain_Ironhide]

Carthage!!

It has been some time since I last played RTW (about a year I think). But of all the campaigns I played. Carthage held the most entertainment for me.

I loved the Sacred Band Infantry and at the latter stages was pumping out hordes of them. I also loved smashing the lines of the enemy with the War Elephants too.

The only thing they lacked were archer units. But beggars can't be choosers I think. :2thumbsup:

[Slug For A Butt]

A perfect choice Ironhide. :2thumbsup:

I love them too, Scred Band, Elephants, and for some reason I love slingers so the lack of archers doesn't bother me (I think I just love the noise as the rocks strike :balloon2: ).
Plus, you get the chance to get down and dirty with the Romans nice and early. :whip:

[Moosemanmoo]

Greek Cities and Macedon.....Although, i hated the way they were portrayed in Vanilla RTW....Thank the gods for EB!!!

:balloon: :balloon2: :balloon3: :balloon: :balloon2: :balloon3:

[Afkazar]

Seleucid. Their Phalanx + Cataphract/Chariot combo is unbeatable.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Carthage has a sort of attraction to me over the other nations. This has something to do with the trial version of Age of Empires - The Rise of Rome expansion pack which I played in the late nineties (it came with the Windows 98 SE CD Sampler).

As some may know, the trial, which was my first ever experience of an RTS game, contained three campaigns containing Carthage's first fight against Rome in the Mediterranean - the First Punic War.

Despite later buying The Settlers III, which kept me enthralled for a fairly long time, I never forgot this introduction to the world of RTS. For some inexplicable reason, these memories made me rather interested in playing as Carthage under various circumstances. This is an opportunity which I rarely get (Carthage isn't really famous enough to end up in most games), so I usually exploit it wherever possible.

[Charge]

Seleucid. Their Phalanx + Cataphract/Chariot combo is unbeatable.And what's the point? Too hard AI for you? I would play rather inferior faction (rome inferior to ai on vh anyway), instead of watching them routing only at the sight of me...

+ you forgot their Immitation legionaries

[mrdun]

I suppose Charge fields armies of peasants every game:laugh4:

[paul_kiss]

I was hesitating over which nation to vote for. I played for a bunch of them. Brutii, Egypt, Parthia, Scythia, Germania, Carthage, Macedonia... But out of all these it's my Egyptian experience that I remember the most.

[woad&fangs]

Do I really have to say it?

[Caius]

I was good at Scythia in RTW Vanilla. I was able to outlaw the Thracians in less than 10 years. But there a lot of factions that deserve to be mentionated.

[Caeser The III]

:applause: nice job

my favorite are carthage,greek and rome

[Punicus]

Definitely Carthage. Lots of different kinds of enemies to fight against, they have decent units, etc.

[caravel]

I had to vote Rome, Brutii in particular. The reason being that if I don't play as them then the AI turns them into a juggernaut!* I would prefer the Gauls but I find that later in the campaign they get rather dull, as their tactics pretty much amount to warcry and charge for all directions.

*If I play as the Brutii then I can do more to help maintain some balance - though the Britons can still be a major problem.

[Quintus.JC]

My favourite faction is the Julii. They are the most realistic and if you’re lucky you get to use Julius Caesar!

[_OctavianAugustus_]

Definitely Rome, mostly I play with Julii..
Well also the Greek Cities and Selucid Empire are one of my favorite factions...

[shlin28]

Britannia :yes: Light chariot beats anything.

[TruePraetorian]

Of course Rome, that is why i bought the game!

Their feats in-game and in history are amazing...especially militarily. Don't tell me you haven't had amazing battles against the Legions of Rome.

[mrdun]

I have had them with, is that what you meant? Otherwise it contradicts your previous statement. Yea Roma Invicta

[Quintus.JC]

Definitely Rome, mostly I play with Julii..
Well also the Greek Cities and Selucid Empire are one of my favorite factions...

The Seleucid are flexible but the Greek have a single dimensional army (infantry dominant) which makes the battle really slow.

[placenik]

Noone likes Schythia?
They are dream of cavalery freek.

[Quintus.JC]

Scythian cavalry is too light, I'd prefer Parthia, Armenia or Pontus. They all have good cavalry plus they all are civilized factions.

[placenik]

You are not thinking like barbarian- war is long thing for Scythia. Point with Scythian cavalry is being light and fast. I found myself wining with Schytia in SP by losing- take HAs unit, make as much damage as you can and withdraw. Sacrifice light cavalery to kill anything faster than HA. It is all in moving, if you are caught you die.

BTW, Armenia lacks light cavalery, and Parthia is short for +2/+2 armor/weapon bonus (Scythia 3 exp from temple + 1/1 from smith, Parthia only 2/2 from smith)

[Quintus.JC]

You are not thinking like barbarian- war is long thing for Scythia. Point with Scythian cavalry is being light and fast. I found myself wining with Schytia in SP by losing- take HAs unit, make as much damage as you can and withdraw. Sacrifice light cavalery to kill anything faster than HA. It is all in moving, if you are caught you die.

BTW, Armenia lacks light cavalery, and Parthia is short for +2/+2 armor/weapon bonus (Scythia 3 exp from temple + 1/1 from smith, Parthia only 2/2 from smith)

Makes sense, it is easier to retrain Scythian cavalry since it doesn't require too high upgrades of stables.

[Spartan198]

I would have to say the Seleucids. They have the most varied troop roster, plus the first ten or so turns are nothing short of treacherous. But it's worth it when I've got the entire eastern half of the map under my control when I move to take Italy and boot those blasted Romans out of their own homeland. :laugh4:

[Quintus.JC]

looking at unit rosters. The seleucid, Romans, Carthage and Germania are my favourites.

[Hannibalbarc]

For me it's a tough choice between Carthage, Spain, Germania, and Greek cities, I guess I'll go with good old Carthage.

[Quintus.JC]

Spain ???

[Quirinus]

Noone likes Schythia?
They are dream of cavalery freek.
Haha, yeah, Scythia can just overwhelm its enemies with hordes of HAs-- they can be built on Muster Field! But I still prefer Parthia or Armenia, because they're civilised. :laugh4:

My favourite has to be Greek Cities, Carthage and Parthia. I like the unit roster of Carthage the most, but ugh, I hate how you must fight the Romans every single time in the beginning. The same is true for Greek Cities, admittedly, but at least the Greeks get to fight a diverse array of other peoples.

[placenik]

Haha, yeah, Scythia can just overwhelm its enemies with hordes of HAs

Actually they don't need that many HAs if they go west. No western AI army can survive wining battles against single unit of HAs. It is funny to hear "Your wariors have died for nothing!" when you killed 50-100 enemies and lost 0. And guess what, you will attack again next turn :oops:

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I like the unit roster of Carthage the most, but ugh, I hate how you must fight the Romans every single time in the beginning.I have found that it is possible to delay a battle with Rome by giving away your Sicilian city to whoever will take it as soon as possible. Although eventually the Romans do land an army in Africa, it gives you a decent length of time before you are actually forced to engage in combat with them.

~:)

[Quirinus]

Yeah, I suppose that works too. But still, I hate campaigning in Africa. The long distances are not helped by the fact that a lot of the desert towns have pathetic population growth.

Not to mention, the most advanced city you have, Carthage, is years away from any major battlefields, whether by sea or land.

[placenik]

Yeah, I suppose that works too. But still, I hate campaigning in Africa. The long distances are not helped by the fact that a lot of the desert towns have pathetic population growth.

Not to mention, the most advanced city you have, Carthage, is years away from any major battlefields, whether by sea or land.
And why do you think catharge lost Punic wars?

[Paradox]

And why do you think catharge lost Punic wars?
That isn't the reason they lost. Had it not been for the Carthaginians abandoning Hannibal, there wouldn't be a Rome. Hannibal managed to give the Romans a very hard time, imagine if he had reinforcements from Carthage instead of Gallic-Iberian mercenaries.

[Charge]

That isn't the reason they lost. Had it not been for the Carthaginians abandoning Hannibal, there wouldn't be a Rome. Hannibal managed to give the Romans a very hard time, imagine if he had reinforcements from Carthage instead of Gallic-Iberian mercenaries.Without this 'crappy' mercenaries he would not be able to do anything at all.

[placenik]

That isn't the reason they lost. Had it not been for the Carthaginians abandoning Hannibal, there wouldn't be a Rome. Hannibal managed to give the Romans a very hard time, imagine if he had reinforcements from Carthage instead of Gallic-Iberian mercenaries.
That is what I'm saying. It is called logistics. You need to support spread troops. BTW, Carthage always used mostly mercenary armies.

[Paradox]

Without this 'crappy' mercenaries he would not be able to do anything at all. Your putting words in my mouth, when did I say crappy? Read my post again, I said imagine if he only had the Gallic-Iberian mercenaries supporting him alone? He couldn't have succeeded at that rate.

[placenik]

Mercenaries cost cash. Armies cost cash. Catharge had one very unplesent rebelion of unpaid mercenaries which Hanibal's father handled.

We should move to history forum :|

[Hannibalbarc]

BTW, Carthage always used mostly mercenary armies.
I think Carthage should be able to recruit units like numidian cavalry and spanish mercenries, I mean the romans can recruit their mercenries. (auxilia archers, cavalry, and infantry.

[Paradox]

I agree that Carthage should have a wider variety of mercenaries to recruit, I don't see any recruitable Gallic mercenaries...

[Caius]

I don't see any recruitable Gallic mercenaries...
The Barbarian Mercenaries and the Barbarian Cavalry Mercenaries are copies of Gallic soldiers.

[Caeser The III]

welcome back caius~:wave:

[placenik]

I agree that Carthage should have a wider variety of mercenaries to recruit, I don't see any recruitable Gallic mercenaries...
Well, Carthage traditionaly used large number of Numidians in its ranks. They should definitely be able to hire all non-legionary Numidian units (latter being introduced by Juggruta during war with Marius).

[mrdun]

Carthage cannot recruit barbarian mercenaries because carthage is in Africa, not Gaul. If you take a carthage army to Gaul you will be allowed to recruit barb mercs. Simple. Although if you are not happy about this, open your mercenaries folder and edit that. As for the Romans, you cannot recruit mercenary legions, only samnites in Italy. Oh and you can, yes can, recruit numidian mercenaries in Carthage/ Africa. Thankyou.

[Paradox]

Carthage cannot recruit barbarian mercenaries because carthage is in Africa, not Gaul. If you take a carthage army to Gaul you will be allowed to recruit barb mercs. Simple. Although if you are not happy about this, open your mercenaries folder and edit that. As for the Romans, you cannot recruit mercenary legions, only samnites in Italy. Oh and you can, yes can, recruit numidian mercenaries in Carthage/ Africa. Thankyou.
That's not the point, we're going by history here. And besides, Cordoba is bordering Gallic territory, so Carthage should easily be able to recruit Gauls.

[placenik]

Carthage cannot recruit barbarian mercenaries because carthage is in Africa, not Gaul. If you take a carthage army to Gaul you will be allowed to recruit barb mercs. Simple. Although if you are not happy about this, open your mercenaries folder and edit that. As for the Romans, you cannot recruit mercenary legions, only samnites in Italy. Oh and you can, yes can, recruit numidian mercenaries in Carthage/ Africa. Thankyou.
But you can't hire full African army in one turn, as Carthage usually did.

[mrdun]

I'm sure that a slight moderation of the mercenaries file will allow the spawning of more mercenaries to hire