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Don Corleone
12-19-2007, 03:49
I'm sorry, these people are human vermin. They're disgusting, and they're a waste of oxygen: Dutch couple adopts Korean newborn, then returns her to foster care in Hong Kong... 7 YEARS LATER (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1695735,00.html?cnn=yes).
Understand just how bad this is.... the couple took the child while she was still an infant. If she's not speaking Dutch, its because they didn't speak to her. If she's not eating Dutch food, it's because she never got the chance to eat with them. And if she's emotionally withrdrawn, it's because they never expressed love and affection towards her. And then, when their new toy wasn't fun to play with anymore, they sent her off to Goodwill with the rest of their 'junk'.
God, sometimes, you just want 10 minutes alone in a room with somebody. :furious3:
Nasty bit of business. Their excuse is ridiculous: "saying they could no longer care for her because of the girl's emotional remoteness." Yeah, right. If a little girl who began life with you as an infant is "remote," whose problem is that? The child's? I don't think so. Especially when you hear this:
Cheung says she is now living with an English-speaking foster family and attending a Hong Kong school. "She's living rather happily, and she seems to be a normal little girl," he says.
Scum. Gutter trash. Thoughtless, selfish, irresponsible people. I trust the public outrage and shunning they receive will be some start on just punishment.
Crazed Rabbit
12-19-2007, 04:11
I feel the need to comment, but all that's needed saying has been said.
CR
Seamus Fermanagh
12-19-2007, 05:15
I'll pray for the failed adopters -- they'll need it.
Don C. -- your efforts would probably be wasted on them, but if you can arrange the 10 minutes, I'll try to get you a good crowbar to take with you. Obviously normal measures don't get their attention.
Jade the assecoire. There is more to this story, these guys like to network alright, but on the acounts of their numerous party's, the Korean kid is never mentioned once. Probably somewhere in the cupboard. I am glad this gets international attention.
AntiochusIII
12-19-2007, 08:33
Jade the assecoire. There is more to this story, these guys like to network alright, but on the acounts of their numerous party's, the Korean kid is never mentioned once. Probably somewhere in the cupboard. I am glad this gets international attention.Oh snap. Evidences sufficient for charges of child neglect or whatever that heinous crime is nowadays called may be?
They almost ruined a child's life just for kicks after all.
Fashion assecoire. You would expect that there would be a lot of uproar on this but the media keeps their mouth shut, only the 'tabloid' the Telegraaf covered it after the story circulated on the internet for a few days, it just doesn't exist for the 'quality' newspapers and public networks. Foreign affairs doesn't get any further then calling it a private-issue. I think South Korea should retract some ambassadors because of this, let it blow up in their faces.
AntiochusIII
12-19-2007, 08:50
The fact that the guy's a diplomat probably let them keep quiet about it. "Diplomatic immunity" isn't just literal after all. :dizzy2:
I agree with you, Let's have some international scandal, tabloid fun, outrage storm, whatever. I hate these types of neo-imperialist attitudes, "Look at me I adopted a Korean child! I'm such a globalist!"
Just to show the hypocricy some more, they are big players in the charity industry, they where all that when they helped giving this Bali girl after the tsunami. These people only care about their social standing, that is why I am so happy the international community picks it up. At least the champagne will taste a bit less good. This is the girl by the way;
http://www.telegraaf.nl/multimedia/archive/00140/kind_140809d.jpg
oh, how could I forget, kinda related, Meta is pregnant again. 4 is a bit much....
Adrian II
12-19-2007, 11:18
Nice heads-up for those who think Michel Houellebecq or Tom Wolfe make things up. Alll they have to do is read the papers.
Seamus Fermanagh
12-19-2007, 13:36
oh, how could I forget, kinda related, Meta is pregnant again. 4 is a bit much....
4 is a lot of work certainly....
Kralizec
12-19-2007, 13:42
:no:
Rodion Romanovich
12-19-2007, 14:05
I feel the need to comment, but all that's needed saying has been said.
CR
Seconded
:wall:
Yeah, it's stupid, but maybe if they're such bad people and didn't really love her anyway, the girl is better off with another family now. :shrug:
ICantSpellDawg
12-19-2007, 16:18
scum.
I got no words for it :daisy:. Don Corleone if you can get the 10 mins with them I'll help you.
Samurai Waki
12-19-2007, 22:21
I'll bring the lead pipe, as long as you bring the car battery with hookups, and a knife.
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
12-19-2007, 23:54
I don't normally consider violence an answer these days but I would almost be inclined to make an exception these days.
Justiciar
12-20-2007, 00:56
Well hang on a minute.. they paid good money for it. If it wasn't functioning properly, they had every right to take it back. It's not like it had feelings or anything - it was only a foreign peasant-child, after all.
:wall:
Scum, as others have said. International adoption as little more than a fad for the elite sickens me, tbh. The sooner it's stopped the better.
Is it just me or are your replies worse than when people actually kill kids?
It confuses me a bit, I mean yeah it's bad and all but they'd gotten the same replies for doing far worse things to the girl so I'm seriously a bit confused now, not sure about the psychological harm they may have caused though. :shrug:
Major Robert Dump
12-20-2007, 02:05
They could have at least tried to return her to Wal Mart, that place will give a refund on anything
Incongruous
12-20-2007, 05:55
how in heck is that at all legally possible?
I am so deluded right now.
If you guys get 10 I'll bring along Hostel two just so we can get our footing right:whip:
Banquo's Ghost
12-20-2007, 06:30
To be clear, I don't disagree with the anger expressed here, but to play Devil's Advocate:
The adopters ("parents" seems rather a stretch) came to an understanding that they could no longer love and care for the child as she deserved. Realising their inadequacy, they relinquished their care role. Would it have been better if they had bowed to social expectation and in keeping and resenting the child, ended up abusing her emotionally and possibly physically?
Good assay at advocating for the Devil, BG. My initial response would be that so long as you are of sound body and mind, it is your responsibility to care for creatures under your protection. That includes cats, dogs, goldfish, and adopted Korean girls. "They could no longer love and care for the girl"? Why on earth not? Are they both stricken by terminal illness? I doubt it. Are they both autistic? I doubt it.
I would actually have more sympathy for parents who gave up a natural child than I have for this couple. Sometimes people make babies when they really shouldn't. But adoption is a process, and not an easy one. They made a deliberate choice to care for and raise another human being. That's not something you can tag out of, or call quits, or say it's not as much fun as you saw on TV.
Parenthood is forever, whether you like it or not.
They made a deliberate choice to care for and raise another human being. That's not something you can tag out of, or call quits, or say it's not as much fun as you saw on TV.
Parenthood is forever, whether you like it or not.
Well that is fine in principle, but in reality adoptions often do not work. The article cited by the OP say that there is a 10% failure rate of UK adoptions (of under-10 year olds, IIRC). Now when you consider that adoption in the UK is rare and officially vetted to be very selective, this suggests that adoption can be very difficult to make work. I don't think these 10% of cases are all "human vermin".
Relations between parents and adopted children are typically more fraught than those between parents and natural children. Perhaps sometimes the parents are at fault. But often the children have understandable issues too - knowing that you were abandoned by your natural parents and knowing that your parents are not your "real" (blood) parents often seems to give rise to deep resentments and can lead to problematic behaviour.
I read the article prepared to be as riled up as most other posters, but I didn't come away feeling that way. I did not see anything about this case that makes it more culpable than the 10% of failed UK adoptions.
They are obviously full of it. Always partying, child was never to be seen on these party's, the others were, and just when the misses gets knocked up again they 'give up'. Yeah right.
InsaneApache
12-20-2007, 15:04
Relations between parents and adopted children are typically more fraught than those between parents and natural children. Perhaps sometimes the parents are at fault. But often the children have understandable issues too - knowing that you were abandoned by your natural parents and knowing that your parents are not your "real" (blood) parents often seems to give rise to deep resentments and can lead to problematic behaviour.
This is very true. Many years ago I had a young lad working for me. A nice kid. When he got to 18 years old he started to track down his birth mother. Boy did that not go down well. He found out her name and where she lived, he wrote to her, boy another mistake. To cut a long story short, he was rejected again.
I tried to take him under my wing but alas to no avail. He started drinking really heavily and got into trouble with the police. After another day when he didn't arrive for work because he was sat in the Bridewell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridewell), I had to let him go. About the only time I felt bad about sacking someone.
I stayed in touch with him, I liked him, and eventually he found a nice girl and settled down with a couple of kids. Although it didn't last, it did seem to straighten his head out.
Now 22 years later we still keep in touch and he recently became a grandad. Life is tough sometimes but I like to think that my friendship and conversations helped him.
BTW he told me last year that he was amazed that I'd not sacked him earlier as he was, in his words, "acting like a dickhead".
Life is not like a box of chocolates.
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