EB-comic and some other random pics

[Lovejoy]

Hello dear friends!

I was scaning some old notebooks I'm about to throw in the garbage.

while doin that I found this really(kinda) old comic strip i had forgotten all about. I made it after I had read one of does roman over/under-powered-threads on this board :clown:

I added the text the way I believe it was supposed to be. I just thought I would share it to you guys... :P its nothing special. :P

Its about a roman officer reading the eb-boards...
http://static.pici.se/pictures/twiGMiRnP.jpg

thanks to all the great feedback I made another one. :P (and got on more in the works) :)

its not as funny as the first one (its hard begin funny on demand). its inspired by Alexandros Maximus, but with my own twist :bow:

anyway.. its about two gaulic merchants trying to make a living down south...

http://static.pici.se/pictures/MxYcSgyjS.jpg



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i found some other eb-related pics ni my notebooks... its all very bad quality :P


http://static.pici.se/pictures/xQNktbHoz.jpg
http://static.pici.se/pictures/hcjqheAid.jpg
http://static.pici.se/pictures/UkCnnyiaz.jpg


anyway.. anyone else got something eb-related to share? :egypt: i know someone here did some really funny eb-pics :)

[antisocialmunky]

lol, I like your style.

[Alexandros Maximus]

the bad quality makes it funnier. MAKE MORE! :whip:

[Redmeth]

Real funny (cause it's true :laugh4: )

Love your style :2thumbsup:

[Lovejoy]

haha thanks guys! :2thumbsup: I've been sitting here pressing "refresh" forever! thanks for the comments :D

[TWFanatic]

No, it is not true. Rome did not invent the genocide. It doesn't take a historian to realize that there was plenty death before the Romans came along. There was plenty of genocide to go around all over the world well before Rome entered the picture. Just because they are better at killing than those they conquered does not make them somehow worse. This kind of thinking is void of logic.

You owe the Romans more than you know. They invented many things which we could not do without today. More importantly, they took the technology and inventions of other peoples and improved upon them, spreading them across the world.

Forgive me for being a party pooper. You are a very good cartoonist and I love your style as well. I only ask that you do a bit more research before dishing out insults.

[Long lost Caesar]

TW Fanatic: im sure it was only a joke, there's no need to get worked up about it mate.

Great comics man, i loved the drawing style, the script, everything. make more! nice one

[Redmeth]

Forgive me for being a party pooper. You are a very good cartoonist and I love your style as well. I only ask that you do a bit more research before dishing out insults.
It's just a cartoon and the things he mentioned were not invented by the Romans (on concrete I'm not 100% sure)

You're right they did not invent killing but they did take slaughter to another level. The Celts could have "exterminated" Roma but they accepted gold. Hannibal ultimately wanted peace with Rome and didn't press forward. And with or without Rome those inventions we owe them would have been invented by someone else probably. Carthage had sewage, pipes and apartment flats before Rome btw

The Romans exterminated a great deal of the population of Gaul (an approximated 1 million dead) and Epeiros and other places (like Dacia where Trajan's doctor says there were only 4 people left alive... an exaggeration for sure ). On Trajan's column it's not the Dacians being barbaric but it's the Romans killing women and children and carrying heads in their mouths.

I really didn't want this thread to turn into this but this defence of Rome's greatness even on a topic on comics kinda pushed it over the top...

I don't have anything personal with the Romans and they were a great part of the history of our world and they deserve their place but the other people who did invent things the Romans adopted (and improved most likely) deserve a fair treatment too.

Lovejoy keep it up I'd love to see a series... :yes:

[Admetos]

Really good there Lovejoy. WE WANT MORE!

[Lovejoy]

TWFanatic: hehe! thanks for the comment :D

I'm sorry if i insulted anyone. I'm not saying the romans didnt do anything good (oh well maybe I am :P), but its not my intention! :sweatdrop: ofc I "over simplify" it, but otherwise it wouldnt be any fun. :D


Long lost caesar/redmeth: thanks for that! :2thumbsup:

Admetos: Thanks! :D

maybe Ill do one more... *dum, dum duuum*

[Alexandros Maximus]

make it a bunch of greeks and romans arguing over who's civilization is better... it'll be funny.

and then have a parthian come out of nowhere and say pahlava is better and they all jump him

[TWFanatic]

Wow he took that well. I feel bad about posting this but I'd feel worse if I discarded it.



@Red:
I really didn't want this thread to turn into this but this defence of Rome's greatness even on a topic on comics kinda pushed it over the top...
If you are expecting a bag of uneducated nincompoops to read these comics than you are in the wrong place. Unfortunately for the ill-informed, this forum is chock-full of historians and history enthusiasts. To address the last clause: I am NOT "defending Rome's greatness," I am merely trying to set the record strait.


I don't have anything personal with the Romans and they were a great part of the history of our world and they deserve their place but the other people who did invent things the Romans adopted (and improved most likely) deserve a fair treatment too.
Indeed, that's how EB began is it not? I don't ask for OMFGWTF*&^*^%&@*%$&ROMANPWNAGE!!!!1111. I ask for the truth, and I hope that isn't too much.


You're right they did not invent killing but they did take slaughter to another level. The Celts could have "exterminated" Roma but they accepted gold. Hannibal ultimately wanted peace with Rome and didn't press forward.
You're taking a few examples from history (partly false ones at that) to try and disprove a massive point. There are plenty, PLENTY examples of barbarism outside of Rome. Heck, before the Romans annexed Gaul human sacrifice (which involved putting people inside a cage and burning them to death) was a common practice amongst the druids. Celts were doing to themselves the exact same thing Caesar did. And do you believe Hannibal was a nice guy? Do you think kindness and mercy was even the smallest of factors in his decision not to besiege or assault Rome? That's simply poor history. I could name numerous nations which showed far more barbarism and far less magnanimity and grace than Rome.

If you’re asking if Rome conquered by singing “We are Family!” then the answer is no. They conquered through conquest, like everyone else.


The Romans exterminated a great deal of the population of Gaul (an approximated 1 million dead) and Epeiros and other places (like Dacia where Trajan's doctor says there were only 4 people left alive... an exaggeration for sure ). On Trajan's column it's not the Dacians being barbaric but it's the Romans killing women and children and carrying heads in their mouths.
Do you think any other nation would have not done the same thing were they as skilled at war as the Romans? They are only doing what conquerors did. Am I saying Rome was a peaceful or moral nation? By no means! I only ask for a fair outlook on history. For as long as humans have fought, humans have committed atrocities. The Romans were no worse than the Spanish Conquistadors, German Nazis, Russian Communists, Chinese Communists, Catholic Crusaders, modern Islamic Jihadists, ancient Assyrians, Greek polis, and so on and so forth. Why such attention is paid to the bad things the Romans did is simply unfair. Claiming Rome is the inventor or worst committer of genocide is simply ridiculous.

And no Rome did not invent concrete. Her version of the stuff was simply superior than that of everyone else.

[TWFanatic]

make it a bunch of greeks and romans arguing over who's civilization is better... it'll be funny.

and then have a parthian come out of nowhere and say pahlava is better and they all jump him
:laugh4:

[LordofUmbar]

That is good.:laugh4:

[pezhetairoi]

The Romans are cuuuuute. XD Very adorable way of drawing you have!

Um,TWFanatic, three deep breaths, and read a joke or two? I think you're really taking this a bit too hard...

[Cybvep]

AFAIK we owe the basics of current European law to Romans. Also, they have created a great military system and they surely deserve a good place in the hall of fame of world military history :yes: .

Great comics, btw.

[TWFanatic]

Um,TWFanatic, three deep breaths, and read a joke or two? I think you're really taking this a bit too hard...
Humor is a very powerful tool. I've read many cruel and cold "jokes" which chilled me to the core with their sick sense of humor and false claims. Not to say that this funny comic is one of those (I must admit I chuckled when I read it).

[keravnos]

Cybvep,

The fact that so many people want to see more of your work means that "they like it they really like it!". So do I.

Please, post some more.
Thanks. :2thumbsup:

[Redmeth]

I kept your format, to make it more private.




If you are expecting a bag of uneducated nincompoops to read these comics than you are in the wrong place. Unfortunately for the ill-informed, this forum is chock-full of historians and history enthusiasts. To address the last clause: I am NOT "defending Rome's greatness," I am merely trying to set the record strait.


What record, they did not invent those things and by genocide I mean the organized not spontaneous mass killing.



Indeed, that's how EB began is it not? I don't ask for OMFGWTF*&^*^%&@*%$&ROMANPWNAGE!!!!1111. I ask for the truth, and I hope that isn't too much.


It's a comic it's supposed to exaggerate in order to be funny...



You're taking a few examples from history (partly false ones at that) to try and disprove a massive point. There are plenty, PLENTY examples of barbarism outside of Rome. Heck, before the Romans annexed Gaul human sacrifice (which involved putting people inside a cage and burning them to death) was a common practice amongst the druids. Celts were doing to themselves the exact same thing Caesar did. And do you believe Hannibal was a nice guy? Do you think kindness and mercy was even the smallest of factors in his decision not to besiege or assault Rome? That's simply poor history. I could name numerous nations which showed far more barbarism and far less magnanimity and grace than Rome.

If you’re asking if Rome conquered by singing “We are Family!” then the answer is no. They conquered through conquest, like everyone else.


I know about the use of the wicker man for sacrifice it may or may not be true but they did not do this regularly there is no evidence (of the wicker man) besides JC's account. The Romans practiced human sacrifice too like before campaigns (a Greek and Celtic couple were buried alive before a campaign... could've been in one of the Punic wars don't remember exactly)

What I'm talking about is mindset. Cynoscephalae turned into a Mak slaughter because when the phalanx broke the Maks were used to be given mercy, such were the customs of Greek warfare but the Romans cut them down. The Greeks almost never razed a warring enemy city-state.

Give me those examples of comparable or worse killing of large number of people before the Romans and I'll retract my statements. You could make a case for the Assyrians perhaps but I don't think they ever reached Rome's numbers.




Do you think any other nation would have not done the same thing were they as skilled at war as the Romans? They are only doing what conquerors did. Am I saying Rome was a peaceful or moral nation? By no means! I only ask for a fair outlook on history. For as long as humans have fought, humans have committed atrocities. The Romans were no worse than the Spanish Conquistadors, German Nazis, Russian Communists, Chinese Communists, Catholic Crusaders, modern Islamic Jihadists, ancient Assyrians, Greek polis, and so on and so forth. Why such attention is paid to the bad things the Romans did is simply unfair. Claiming Rome is the inventor or worst committer of genocide is simply ridiculous.

And no Rome did not invent concrete. Her version of the stuff was simply superior than that of everyone else.

This indeed has no clear answer and is an endless debates, modern comparisons are not appropriate. But in the ancient world they raised it to a state policy and they were the first to do so and that is important. Like you said we owe them a whole lot, maybe we owe them the stupid idea that genocide does work and can get you somewhere too...

[Lovejoy]

Alexandros Maximus/LordofUmbar/pezhetairoi/keravnos/everybody else: thanks alot! :D I'm working on the sequel :O

TWFanatic: (get ready because this wont make any sense)

Why such attention is paid to the bad things the Romans did is simply unfair.
But thats kinda the joke ;P

Its because they get such a ridiculous amount of attention on all the bad things they ever done the roman officer "gets it wrong". thats why I said he is reading the eb-boards(because thats one off does places the romans get alot of shit on) (dont feel offended anyone)

I even said I wrote this story after reading one of does hate/love-roman-threads! :P

do i make any sense at all?

the joke (in a way) is thats its silly, but you can understand his confusion because of all the hate roman things. :beam: :yes: we all know the romans didnt "event" "genocide" and that they did invent other stuff, (well... im sure they did :P :D :P) but we can all say: hey thats true! thats what we are told! but we all know its silly! and thats funny!!!
(i thought :P )

xomg. :juggle2:

:clown:

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Thanks Lovejoy! :2thumbsup:

TWF and Red,

Even more private would be private messaging, don't you think? :idea:
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[Megalos]

Hehe, thanks L.J, really enjoyed the cartoon, i'd be interested to see some more of these too!

[cmacq]

Good job Lovejoy,

You might call it...

Ara Paradisum

[TWFanatic]

Alexandros Maximus/LordofUmbar/pezhetairoi/keravnos/everybody else: thanks alot! :D I'm working on the sequel :O

TWFanatic: (get ready because this wont make any sense)

But thats kinda the joke ;P

Its because they get such a ridiculous amount of attention on all the bad things they ever done the roman officer "gets it wrong". thats why I said he is reading the eb-boards(because thats one off does places the romans get alot of shit on) (dont feel offended anyone)

I even said I wrote this story after reading one of does hate/love-roman-threads! :P

do i make any sense at all?

the joke (in a way) is thats its silly, but you can understand his confusion because of all the hate roman things. :beam: :yes: we all know the romans didnt "event" "genocide" and that they did invent other stuff, (well... im sure they did :P :D :P) but we can all say: hey thats true! thats what we are told! but we all know its silly! and thats funny!!!
(i thought :P )

xomg. :juggle2:

:clown:

Gotcha.


@Red:
In order to best respond to what you said, I think it may be best for me to point out that genocides, one can surmise, may be as old as civilization itself.


In Homer's Iliad, the Greek forces invading Troy have no qualms about planning the total destruction of its people. In Book IV, Agamemnon rouses Menelaus:

My dear Menelaus, why are you so chary of taking men's lives? Did the Trojans treat you as handsomely as that when they stayed in your house? No; we are not going to leave a single one of them alive, down to the babies in their mothers' wombs—not even they must live. The whole people must be wiped out of existence, and none be let to think of...

And so it goes on. Homer’s epics are older than written history itself, they took place before the events recorded by Herodotus, the father of history. Genocide is not something new.

It is as old as the Old Testament of the Bible.

“And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.” Joshua 6:21
“So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded. And Joshua smote them from Kadesh-barnea even unto Gaza, and all the country of Goshen, even unto Gibeon.” Joshua 10:40-41

--King James Version.

This isn’t the only instance of genocide in the Old Testament.

I would also like to refresh your memory of the atrocities committed by Athens during the Peloponnesian War, when they massacred the men of Milos and sold the woman and children into slavery simply because they wished to remain neutral. I’m sure you’ve also heard of Sparta’s infanticide.

Also, Child sacrifice was prevalent in Carthage, a fact confirmed by archaeological evidence.

There are also many instances of genocide in the middle ages, Genghis Khan foremost among them, but I will stop here having made my point. These events are only the tip of the iceberg.

[M to the A]

Lol, you should make more comics I like it, maybe include the other factions in the jokes haha, and @ all the people with a fetish for Romans, take it easy :p it's just a comic. Perhaps make one with the Makedonians argueing with the Greeks about their ethnicity :2thumbsup:

[TWFanatic]

@ all the people with a fetish for Romans, take it easy :p it's just a comic.
Comics have started worldwide riots, my friend.

p.s. I don't have a "fetish" for Romans, I do have a "fetish" for the truth.

And for some absurd reason it appears as many people on this forum have an intense antipathy for Romans. Lovejoy does not. I only jumped here because this phenomenon has become so common lately on this forum that I inferred this to be another instance of it.

[Alexandros Maximus]

make it a bunch of greeks and romans arguing over who's civilization is better... it'll be funny.

and then have a parthian come out of nowhere and say pahlava is better and they all jump him

BUMP....you should totally do this L.J.

[Hooahguy]

you quoted ur own post?...... :inquisitive:
how queer.....
lol

[Sarcasm]

Way to miss the whole point of the comic strip. Gah. Gah I say!

[The Persian Cataphract]

make it a bunch of greeks and romans arguing over who's civilization is better... it'll be funny.

and then have a parthian come out of nowhere and say pahlava is better and they all jump him

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Jägermeister stamp of approval.

[Alexandros Maximus]

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Jägermeister stamp of approval.


Guess what HooahGuy? I hav the Almighty Jagermeister stamp of Approval!

So Who's the queer one NOW!!!! :boxing:

[russia almighty]

Take the idea one step further . Have the Parthian get jumped and while there all beating him up have a couple German's come in , shank them and they say who needs civilization .

[BerkeleyBoi]

Hehe, I really like the comic. Hope to see more!

[Senatus Populusque Romanus]

:laugh4: haha. I loved your cartoon

[Lovejoy]

thanks for all the kind words guys! <3 <3 <3 :D

thanks to all the great feedback I made another one. :P (and got on more in the works) :)

its not as funny as the first one (its hard begin funny on demand!!!). its inspired by Alexandros Maximus, but with my own twist :bow:

anyway.. its about two gaulic merchants trying to make a living down south...

http://static.pici.se/pictures/MxYcSgyjS.jpg
*ops spelling error; poerty = poetry!

*ta-daaa*
:clown:

[Hooahguy]

thats pretty funny actually!

[Hooahguy]

Guess what HooahGuy? I hav the Almighty Jagermeister stamp of Approval!

So Who's the queer one NOW!!!! :boxing:

having the Jagermeister stamp of Approval and quoting your own post have nothing to do with each other..... :wall: :tongue3:

[glouch]

wow. quarreling about a comic... LOL.

[Hooahguy]

my fault entirely........
lol

[Alexandros Maximus]

The Gauls invented soap!!! :yes:
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

I know they dont correlate...but i quoted my own post for a reason sooo i HAD to say something

BTW hooahguy...i was just messin wit you...its all good.

[Hooahguy]

i know......
lol

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Good one Lovejoy! :clown:
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[TWFanatic]

I love the Celts, the crude drawing makes it all the more hilarious.:laugh4: :laugh4:

I'll give you a balloon if you make another. :balloon2:

[Alexandros Maximus]

You think they're intersted? they smell like it


:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

[Long lost Caesar]

yes bruv, great to see another strip, and it's just as funny as the first! try and get yourself published or something. and here's your payment :balloon2:

[Lovejoy]

hehehe! You are all way too kind. I'm blushing! :embarassed: :beam:

Its hard to come up with something fun... send me a PM if you have an idea and maybe Ill do it. :) :egypt:

[The Persian Cataphract]

hehehe! You are all way too kind. I'm blushing! :embarassed: :beam:

Its hard to come up with something fun... send me a PM if you have an idé and maybe Ill do it. :) :egypt:

En idé säger du? Vad sägs om ett gräl mellan en parthisk katafrakt och en romersk legionär där de drar i en stackars grek där den parthern säger "Släpp honom, jag är philhellen!", där romaren säger "Släpp honom, Rom är rättmätig arvtagare till det hellenska arvet". Nästa scen ser man en saka-skytisk ryttare dela ett stort paket popcorn med en germanisk klubbkrigare :egypt:

[Andronikos]

Have you heard about Horrible history books? A funny childish book with comics like these. I loved it. You made me remember it. Your style (both drawings and jokes) is nice, so please continue.

[Admetos]

Haha! Very good Lovejoy. :2thumbsup:

[konny]

En idé säger du? Vad sägs om ett gräl mellan en parthisk katafrakt och en romersk legionär där de drar i en stackars grek där den parthern säger "Släpp honom, jag är philhellen!", där romaren säger "Släpp honom, Rom är rättmätig arvtagare till det hellenska arvet". Nästa scen ser man en saka-skytisk ryttare dela ett stort paket popcorn med en germanisk klubbkrigare

Looks a little like all the (mostly failed) attempts to make the local slangs down here a written language. When you can work it out a little - and provided you can pronounce it too - you are fit for the next carneval in Cologne ~:joker: . After the first day (of six) of that pronouncing and understanding will not be a problem anymore. ~:cheers:

[The Persian Cataphract]

Heh, well that's actually Swedish, and if I got it correctly, Lovejoy is a Swede :smash:

[konny]

lol

And my apologizes go to all Swedes.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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:laugh4: Swedish 101: Speak K&#246;ln slang :clown:
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[LordofUmbar]

Who is the most civilized now?:idea2:

[antisocialmunky]

The EB guys need to commission a load screen from you.

[NeoSpartan]

Hey you all need to quit bickering:whip: .... keep them comics comming man! :yes:

[cmacq]

wow. quarreling about a comic... LOL.


Bloody hell, wait till they quarrel about quarreling!

Lovejoy, very professional looking, I must say.

Now, you better keep the mob 'en vittles,' or they'll turn on you too.

What was that saying...

... something like, 'over the Hell Gates, the lazy gulls gorged on human flesh, squawk their never ending discontents; more, more, more...'


This the EB design team knows all too well.

[Lovejoy]

cmacq: thank you! :D that's sound scary! :hide: Ill sleep with a eye-open!

The Persian Cataphract: haha that's could work. I think. Well maybe!

thanks for all the kind words everybody! :D

I was planning to finish another comic, but this hole Christmas-thing got in the way. :sweatdrop: Ill try and finish it in the (no idea whats it called in English. Ill do a direct translation!) "in-between-days"! (hehe)

:2thumbsup:

[TWFanatic]

Post-Christmas Christmas break days? :shrug:

[iwwtf_az]

wow those are great! "they smell like it", i should've seen the soap coming!

you should scan them into photoshop, color them, then make them new loading screens!

[blacksnail]

Brilliant! Keep them coming!

If you can work in a newbie question about Command stars I will be quite impressed. ~:)