My EUIII Campaign [Archive]

Veho Nex

12-30-2007, 02:48

Going to post some pictures of my first EUIII campaign(I mean first)

I'm playing as the Iroquois This is the very first date possible January first of the new world.

https://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg250/jkarinen/eu3-20071229-174136.png

A few years later
https://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg250/jkarinen/eu3-20071229-180522.png

And due to my inabilty to know what i was doing i went bankrupt a few times my 3 new colonies revolted and it spread to my original cities, i went into a marriage alliance with huron then was defeated after i tried to take their throne

Warluster

12-30-2007, 03:01

I don't have any screenies (Yet) But I can tell you what I control in my two campaigns:

England campaign (start 1453 and is now 1482)
I control England, Wales, Scotland, Meath (Taken by French) Leinster and Ulster are Puppet States. Me and Lithuania are in a personal Union. I controls everal Colonies in the New World (Acadia being one taken from French.) I've had 5 rulers so far and 15 wars.

Bavaria Campaign: (1618 now 1620's)
I took the Palatine and Brunswick, but as I sieged it Austria signed a peace deal making me automaticly assume pease as well so I declared war again and the Empire is all against me.

I've never played the Iroquis, what are they like?

Do they get Explorers and can they explore the Terra Cognitia?

I've never played as the Iroquis, (Only played 2 Campaings and TUtorial)

Veho Nex

12-30-2007, 03:10

As far as i know i havnt gotten any explorers but in the beginning every thing was calm for a few years then the brits started arriving and so i got a little worried and declared war on them. the huron allied with me and its the brits and portuguel against me in the Second picture i have taken 3 british colonies and am working on moving towards pushing them outa my country all together

Zim

12-31-2007, 00:56

Good luck! My first few campaigns were as 1-2 province minors and I lost a few before getting the hang of things.

I've never even tried a North American faction yet, but I think I will for one of my next few games.

Evil_Maniac From Mars

12-31-2007, 07:01

Zim

12-31-2007, 07:22

Hmmm, I've never done the United Kingdom event, but all of the other ones give you cores on the territories. Generally after you have the required territories there's some Mean Time To Hit (MTTH in the Paradox forums). You get the option to form the new nation within doublt the mean time. It cn take a while if the game randomly assigns the time for the event as near the end of the scale.

I've got an English Campaign going at the moment. Exactly how does one go about Unification? Is it a random event when you have all the required territories? I control Scotland and England, and I have for years, but no event. Do I have to have cores on all the territories? That might be the problem.

Slyspy

01-01-2008, 06:33

I've got an English Campaign going at the moment. Exactly how does one go about Unification? Is it a random event when you have all the required territories? I control Scotland and England, and I have for years, but no event. Do I have to have cores on all the territories? That might be the problem.

All the events of this sort have a Mean Time to Happen as soon as you meet the criteria. So if an event has a MTH of 10 years then you may get it the next day, or in 200 years time, but the chances are that it will be roughly 10 years away.

You'd be much better off checking out the official forums for detailed explanations.

Edit:

To the OP: The native AMericans are probably not the best nations to start out with. They are very restricted and barely playable.

AntiochusIII

01-01-2008, 09:18

To the OP: The native AMericans are probably not the best nations to start out with. They are very restricted and barely playable.With the tech rate of 0.1, it's a wonder why anyone would play them as their first EUIII game. :dizzy2:

To further clarify Slyspy's statement: Jkarinen, your nation is extremely disadvantaged in many, many ways. Unless you're a hardcore gamer born and bred, I'd suggest an easier nation to play for your first couple of games, preferably one in Europe. Trust me, the game feels much more exciting when your technological development isn't more than ten times slower than anybody else and your neighbors include more than just two tribes next door.

An Italian game is always fun. Not too big (and complicated), but rich and well-developed, with lots of friends and enemies around. And once you're strong you can always take on France just for the challenge.

Mouzafphaerre

01-05-2008, 02:40

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Thou hast made us thirsty. :crown:

I installed the Magna Mundi mod (great!) and fired up a France campaign:

https://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6775/eu3mmfrance1467qc1.th.jpg (https://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eu3mmfrance1467qc1.jpg)

Finished the 100 years war repelling Poms off the continent and continued aggression by joining a consecutive Scottish offensive against them, which ended up with them denying all claims on Normandie, Calais and Gascoigne.

Then I waged war against Bretagne; in the first war I annexed Finistère. As soon as the truce expired I campaigned again, diminishing them to bare Vendée.

It's 1467 and I can use some suggestions. I'm considering to finish off Bretagne to secure my back and then wage a bloody war against the Bourgogne-Alsace-Lorraine, who lack strong allies abroad. Aragón to the south own half of the Mediterranean and are allied with entire Iberia, whom I can't take. No casus belli remains between England and us, and we're no more allied with the trouble maker Scots.

What do you veterans say?
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AntiochusIII

01-05-2008, 02:53

How good is your ruler? Usually when I play a France game, I spent my first diplomatic king's reign annexing as many vassals as I can. Those same-culture, same-religion core provinces really helped in the long run.

Once the Gallic homeland is yours the World itself is France's to take. Even after several nerfing efforts by the mod team France is still Europe's premier nation, in wealth, in manpower, and in sheer awesomeness...if the Ottomans aren't overrunning everybody that is.

About your upcoming plans for war with Burgundy, do note that in Magna Mundi Gold at least (requires Napoleon's Ambition), France gets a free annexation on Burgundy post 1500. Or at least, the Burgundian Duchy proper and a border province or two on the Lowlands' side. The rest goes to the current Emperor as his Imperial Demesne.

Now, if France is the Emperor...

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Mouzafphaerre

01-05-2008, 03:26

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All my rulers have been decent ones, except the current one's name: Joachim! (I think I'm gonna dive into the namelists.) If there's anything like that in the game, Le Roi Joachim had pretty much training in the battlefield against Bretagne as well as the unfaithful plague rebels. :duel:

I started the game with every petty princedom as my vassals. Added Navarra to the list at the end of the 100 years war and Bretagne is doomed to be mine. Bourgogne and her vassals (Alsace & Lorraine) remain the sole obstacle before Imperivm Francorvm.

Would you advise exploration and colonisation?

I don't have NA installed, therefore my MM isn't Gold.
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AntiochusIII

01-05-2008, 04:04

Would you advise exploration and colonisation?France is one of the few countries who have the resources (though not the Idea Slot) to do everything at once. It really is up to you, though for roleplaying purposes I always colonize the historically "French" area of the New World.

However, if you plan on fighting the Spanish regularly in the next few centuries, colonization is a must. You'll need to take down their colonies if you intend to get high war scores out of those wars.

That and taking Aztec gold is always a benefit. :balloon2:

Magna Mundi is much harder on both you and the AI in terms of colonization, however. While in vanilla EUIII, North America would be full of colonies by 1500, it's much slower in MM, which reduces both colonization chances and colonist numbers. MM Gold is even worse, since Quest For the New World there is a much, much harder idea to get. There may not be that many Spanish colonies to loot and conquer in Magna Mundi games, and probably few to no Italian colonies at all.

Also, if you didn't play Magna Mundi games before, I have to warn you that taking the QftNW idea too early (think pre-1500, give or take 5-10 years) will viciously slow your tech progress. There's an evil penalty event that can really ruin your day. And, amusingly enough, if you, as a major European nation, take the idea too late (or not at all), you'll also be penalized, though not nearly as harshly as the first one.

Mouzafphaerre

01-05-2008, 04:36

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Thanks for the warning mate! :2thumbsup: I think I'll consider colonization after 1550s then. :yes:

Is there any kind of MM manual or gameplay FAQ?
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Csargo

01-05-2008, 05:30

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=357

Maybe searching around will show something. Sometimes they have AARs that help.

Mouzafphaerre

01-05-2008, 05:43

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Thanks :bow: Should have checked the forum before asking away.

There's a magnamundi.com! :cheesy:
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Csargo

01-05-2008, 06:10

No problem, I can't wait to play whenever I get home. I guess I'll install that mod before I play.

Ayachuco

01-05-2008, 10:43

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All my rulers have been decent ones, except the current one's name: Joachim! (I think I'm gonna dive into the namelists.) .
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I remember Joachim! He was that horrible French king that keep launching wars against my English provinces of Normandie, Caux, Picardie. I guess he didn't like it that my lands surrounded Paris. I mean that guy was annoying, with the help of my ascension to the Holy Roman Emperor, I was able outman him and sent out my armies to destroy his kingdom and annex the upper half and vassalize the rest. But that was on 1.3 patch w/o Magna Mundi...And you can tell since I had colonies that stretched to the Ohio River and I dominated the entire Southern African provinces and it was only 1569.

Well, I've just installed the Magna Mundi Mod (sadly only 1.31 version since I do not have Napoleon's Ambition and thus cannot use Magna Mundi Gold) plus two Byzantine mods and a Medieval mod that works with EU 1.2 patch.

I've started a Byzantine game and am whooping Ottoman arses, however rebels are ransacking my European provinces and all I have is Morea and Thrace firmly under control. Stupid general deserting my emperor event. Alright I've managed to get a peace treaty with the Ottomans and everything is good on the Anatolian Penisula. Now I will turn my attention to the west; the Austrian/Hungarians have declared War on me, but I was able to defeat the Hungarians and get a white peace treaty with them. The Austrians have just attacked me and I was able to beat some of the rebels and claim two of my provinces.

My Byzantine Map
https://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd125/drao0nian/byzmap.jpg

Well, I've started a new game as Saxony with the Magna Mundi mod (I'm a little sad that I can't fast forward to the thirty years war bookmark but then I guess that would be a waste of the mod's ability to make the events more historically and react on your actions). I have successfully blitzed Hannover (that province didn't know what hit them) and am now recovering from that one year war (I did have to take two 50 ducat loans and put down one revolt). I've established healthy relationships in the Eastern HRE including Brandenburg, secured an alliance with the Burgundians and Bohemians, and have a 200 relationship with the Austrian Emperor. I like how the loan system is callibrated with the nation size and power is also relative to nation size.

Well, this is all that happened in the 15 minutes I've played. I wonder if you can tell which nation I'm going to invade next.:leer:

https://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd125/drao0nian/map2.jpg
My nation up close

https://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd125/drao0nian/Map1.jpg

and my diplomatic relations
https://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd125/drao0nian/map3.jpg

Added Byzantine screen/more recent campaign info

Mouzafphaerre

01-06-2008, 13:25

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I decided to strike Bourgogne first and did so. A long and bloody struggle was fought. Their allies, Lorraine and Leinster, fell to white peace one by one. Kingdom of France and her vassals defeated and destroyed the enemy, Bourgogne and her vassal Alsace; besieged and captured their castles. Finally they agreed to hand over Vlaanderen and recognise the sovereignty of Nevérs.

Not much later, Nevérs attacked Bourgogne and we decided to side with them. Earned Picardie and Franche-Comté in return. However, the unlawful Duc de Bourgogne was not only calling himself a king but he also managed to bribe the countless petty princes to recognize himself as the Emperor. Bah! Anyway, he insolently demanded Franche-Comté, which he lost in a war and handed over in a treaty, back, claiming it as imperial fiefdom.

We are at war again:

https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/613/eu3mmfrance1479atwarso5.jpg

This is how France looks like in 1479; and friends & foes:

https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9445/eu3mmfrance1479kb0.th.jpg (https://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eu3mmfrance1479kb0.jpg) https://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5562/eu3mmfrance1479diplomacqc6.th.jpg (https://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eu3mmfrance1479diplomacqc6.jpg)
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Mouzafphaerre

01-11-2008, 00:01

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Bourgogne, Alsace, Lorraine and Liege were utterly defeated while the rest of the alliance begged for peace on their own. The Archbishopric of Liége is now a vassal of France.

I decided to bring an final end to the Bretagne problem and attacked the last remaining province, Vendée. They were allied with Aragón, whose all mainland armies were crushed and castles besieged. However, she had the power and will to transport troops from her Italian colonies so we made peace. The Duchy of Bretagne is now a vassal of France.

https://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2171/eu3mmfrance1486diplomactu4.th.jpg (https://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eu3mmfrance1486diplomactu4.jpg)

REGNVM FRANCIAM MCDLXXXVI AD
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OverKnight

01-12-2008, 03:50

I just picked up EU III. I've played the first incarnation, along with HoI 1 and 2, but every time I start a Paradox game, I get the same information overload feeling.

Any tips from more experienced players? I'm making my way through the manual and wiki, but a little advice from others would be great.

I'd ask over at paradoxplaza, but I figured I get yelled at by crusty Grognards. :laugh4:

Csargo

01-12-2008, 04:11

Use the pause button often.

Csargo

01-15-2008, 02:29

https://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9384/prussiajm0.jpg

Well this is my first campaign. I've went to war with Sweden twice and you can see what I've taken. I've also annexed a couple of minor German states. I really wanted to take some more of Sweden's lands, but Russia had taken most of the lands I wanted. :(

Zim

01-15-2008, 14:21

I second Ichigo's pause button advice. And you're pretty wise not to ask questions at the forums. Somtimes they jump on you if they think it's too basic. :clown: Haven't played the first game, so I'm not sure how they differ, and some of these you may know.

-watch your BB rating, your neighbors start sending spies your way and attacking you if you get too agressive.

-With large countries, it's easier to get them to release countries than to get lots of territories in one war. This creates allies for you from the new countries and weakens them at the same time.

-Getting a country to accept vassalization is also easier than taking lots of territory, if they're big. It also means a lot of money for you each month, and and insta ally with big armies.

If you have any specific questions I'd be happy to try to answer them :yes:

I just picked up EU III. I've played the first incarnation, along with HoI 1 and 2, but every time I start a Paradox game, I get the same information overload feeling.

Any tips from more experienced players? I'm making my way through the manual and wiki, but a little advice from others would be great.

I'd ask over at paradoxplaza, but I figured I get yelled at by crusty Grognards. :laugh4:

Mouzafphaerre

01-15-2008, 17:30

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-watch your BB rating
Is it that "we have a tarnished reputation" thing? What exactly are the levels? I know respectable, honourable and tarnished.
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Csargo

01-15-2008, 17:41

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Is it that "we have a tarnished reputation" thing? What exactly are the levels? I know respectable, honourable and tarnished.
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BB is your badboy rating. :beam: It was just a number in the other games. It's a number that shows how aggressive you are and higher the number the more likely it is for the AI factions to try to control your madness.:laugh4:

You can check it by dropping down ~ and typing in badboy, or that's how it was in Vicky.

Mouzafphaerre

01-15-2008, 19:12

Csargo

01-15-2008, 19:38

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Which key, geographicaly, is "~"? (I don't think AltGr + Ü would be an intended combination. :wacko:) Also, what is an ideal number? (I got the popup warning for watching my aggression already and nobody will ally with me. ~:mecry:)
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It's the button to the left of the numbers that are above the letters.

Edit: It turns out you can't check it, but if you hover your mouse over your reputation it shows you a number. That's probably considered the bb number, unless someone else knows how to check it.

Zim

01-16-2008, 03:24

If I recall correctly you check it by hitting your faction shield in the top left corner, then the little waving flag button among those lined up at the top of the menu that opens.

It should give your prestige, ranking, and BB. BB will be shown as a fraction (first number being your level of it, second your upper limit).

For BB, the higher the worse. The upper limit changes depending on your monarchs Diplomacy rating, but is usually in the 20s or 30s. Tarnished is fine, "pretty bad" and you may get neighbors hiring privateers to harass your ports, inciting riots, or using their spies to infiltrate your own (gives some kind of penalty for actions by your own spies). "Very bad" (getting close to 20) and people are more likely to attack you, and you'll get a lot of annoying messages saying this or that country's spies did something to you. "You are hated by the whole world" (over the numerical limit) and pretty much any neighbor who isn't a vassal (very rarely, even some who are) will attack you.

I don't have all the numbers down completely, but I think you get two per province taken from the peace deals from a war, one per province taken peacefully (i.e. Diplo annexing, or inheriting someone), and a huge 6-7 if you annex a country down to their last province.

It goes down at a fixed rate per year, depending on you monarch and whichever advisors affect rep (philosphers I think, it will say when you hire them). I wouldn't start to worry unless yours was "very bad".

Creating vassals (from your land) also lowers it, at 1 rep per province they get. Losing provinces in a peace deal may lower it, I can't recall, and usually when I lose provinces I'm too angry to check to see if it lowered my bb. :clown:

Mouzafphaerre

01-16-2008, 08:11

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you may get neighbors hiring privateers to harass your ports, inciting riots, or using their spies to infiltrate your own...this or that country's spies did something to you.
All of the above are already happening to me. :skull:
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Zim

01-16-2008, 11:06

Ouch. Would you happen to have bad relations with the countries doing it? That has an effect as well.

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All of the above are already happening to me. :skull:
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Since this has become partly a post your EU empire thread I might as well show two of mine.

I have an aar going on where I switch between Novgorod (since having become Russia) and Venice (since having become Italy). It's been pretty fun, especially as sometimes the AI does stupid things with a country while I'm playing the other.

Russia. Their territory now actually extends pretty far east as well.

https://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8375/image016vc8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Italy. They also have extensive holdings in South America and South Africa.

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8533/image001fr5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Rodion Romanovich

01-16-2008, 11:07

Is it that "we have a tarnished reputation" thing? What exactly are the levels? I know respectable, honourable and tarnished.
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You mean the "we are dishonorable scum" thing? :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
(which I always seemed to get in my EUII campaigns)

Mouzafphaerre

01-16-2008, 11:31

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I guess it's the filthy Bourgogne and the rascal Aragón who are plotting against the mighty REGNVM.FRANCIAM! :gah2:

Bourgogne shall pay for it dearly once I awake from the damn war exhaustion, which diminishes my manpower to 0. :embarassed:
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Husar

01-16-2008, 13:10

Oh, hah, since we seem to have eggsperts here and I only played the demo so far I got a question: Is it really so that you can recruit only the troop type set as the favourite troop type? And is it also true that when you change your favourite infantry, all infantry groups will change to the new type immediately/after a very short time?
I found that a bit cheesy in the demo, it looked like you can just switch to a defensive type when you defend, then switch to an offensive type when you counterattack or something like that, although you would have to keep in mind the changes are global, I just thought the game was a bout micromanaging which for me also includes switching to more modern technologies with a bit more then the press of a button. :sweatdrop:

Overall it still seemed like a fun game, just would like an answer to this.

Csargo

01-16-2008, 20:31

Husar

01-16-2008, 20:37

I've noticed that in some provinces you can recruit more than one type of infantry. I don't know about your second question though I'll have to let someone else answer, or if no one does before I decide to play again I'll check and see. You have to invest in techs to get different things.
I noticed you get mercenaries which may be a different type but the regular troops all seemed to be the same. :shrug:

Csargo

01-16-2008, 21:10

https://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4017/12038595je1.jpg

See.

Zim

01-16-2008, 21:47

In provinces where another faction has a core you can recruit their preferred troops. Depending on how many factions have cores on it, or whether you aso do, this can mean you're able to recruit multiple types of infantry, cav, etc..

I've noticed that in some provinces you can recruit more than one type of infantry.

Every time you change your preferred troop type it resets their morale to 0, so it wouldn't be worth the bother in the middle of a battle or war. I think this is supposed to represent the time needed to retrain them to be confident with their new equipment.

Oh, hah, since we seem to have eggsperts here and I only played the demo so far I got a question: Is it really so that you can recruit only the troop type set as the favourite troop type? And is it also true that when you change your favourite infantry, all infantry groups will change to the new type immediately/after a very short time?
I found that a bit cheesy in the demo, it looked like you can just switch to a defensive type when you defend, then switch to an offensive type when you counterattack or something like that, although you would have to keep in mind the changes are global, I just thought the game was a bout micromanaging which for me also includes switching to more modern technologies with a bit more then the press of a button. :sweatdrop:

Overall it still seemed like a fun game, just would like an answer to this.

OverKnight

01-17-2008, 06:15

Neat idea Zim playing two countries.

Looks like the Venetians are trying to recreate the ERE.

My own Easy campaign as England is proceeding nicely. I've finally made it through the various FAQs and the manual. I had forgotten how 'dense' Paradox games were. I'm about 50 years in and I've been a peaceful trader and colonizer. I got dragged into one brief war by Portugal with one of the Indian Nations. I've set up 'New England' in the Carribean and South America, except for a few islands and coastal provinces owned by the perfidious French, it's looking very red.

I'm still undecided as to what to do with Scotland. I've tried the diplo-annex route, but bribery and such is going very slowly. Fortunately I got a boundary dispute on Lothian, so after I build up some forces I might declare war, vassalise Scotland and take France's four colonies in the Carribean if they honor their alliance. I sold Calais to France at the very beginning, so that isn't an issue, I don't want to get mixed up in continental matters, at least for now. Despite this, or because of it, I'm HRE and occascional Papal Controller.

I might have to change difficulty, but we'll see.

It's fun so far, it's a game that rewards patience, unlike M2.

Zim

01-17-2008, 06:24

Well, Venice/Italy is trying to recreate the entire Empire (France is a monster and they can't beat them yet) but I think at best they'll manage the Empire during Justinian's rule. :yes:

Someone else actually came up with the multiple country idea. Since saves only save the world situation and you can pick any country when you pick them up, he thought it would be a neat idea to play three countries (switching every ten years) and have them compete for a goal. His name's Storey and he has a great AAR on the Paradox forums.

It's a fun way to play the game. In my next AAR I'm going to do the same but tie the country's stories together if I can, in the guise of a history book trying to tell world history by following three countries. :2thumbsup:

Diplovassalizing can be tough, although your ability to bribe will go way up when those rich Carribean islands become cores. Declaring war and vassalizing that way is much easier.

I find that becoming HRE without trying happens sometimes if the other members keep fighting eachother (making their relations with eachother very bad).

EU3 is great, I actually much prefer it for single player, although some of the MTW2 mods coming out look great, and stuff like KOTR keeps it interesting for me. :yes:

Mouzafphaerre

01-17-2008, 07:34

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To switch countries on the fly in Magna Mundi you'll need to type some gibberish in the console. Just to remind. :computer:
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OverKnight

01-17-2008, 18:09

deguerra

01-18-2008, 01:11

Magna Mundi is great.

Personally, I found the financials to be a bit difficult at the beginning. I like playing as smaller countries, and trying to keep your inflation down by not minting can be quite difficult.

I had a fantastic game where I played as Bavaria and unified the HRE (this was back in vannilla, that kind of thing is extremely difficult in Magna Mundi).

Overall, though, I like Hoi2 even better.

Warluster

01-18-2008, 01:50

Yes, HoI2 seems diffrent; I don't know why (Maybe because it has Australia in it)

Am considering buying NA; it adds a few nations and has Revoulutions! And only 20 bucks. Anyone recommend it?

I will post a picture of a campaign with England; it 'bout 1520 and I own a bit of land in the middle of America, Natives own the rest and Spain South, Mexico and FLorida (Plus Carribean) But found something very funny;
The Province Mosquito in Mexico is currently a Colony of the Papal States! And the Netherlands are currently right next to my Colonies (Bermuda, some places in Canada, somewhere in the East NA and a bit of New Orleans) but they were wiped out by some Rebels I stirred up.

Will add picture of the situation.

Check out the main EU3 forum over at paradox Interactive; theres a screenshot there where Ethiopia is the Holy ROman Emperor.

Csargo

01-18-2008, 05:55

Is France a huge superpower in everyone else's game, cause they are in mine.

Mouzafphaerre

01-18-2008, 07:28

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We are the #1 in the whole world...in my campaign that is. :chef:
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screwtype

01-19-2008, 15:18

Am considering buying NA; it adds a few nations and has Revoulutions! And only 20 bucks. Anyone recommend it?

No, I haven't tried it yet. I gave up on EUIII pretty quick because IMO there is no actual game there, a fact which is disguised by the complicated mechanics and pretty-ish graphics.

I do like the sound of the some of the changes made for NA, but really, it sounds more like a patch than a new game and I think asking 20 bucks for it is outrageous.

Zim

01-19-2008, 15:27

Yes, HoI2 seems diffrent; I don't know why (Maybe because it has Australia in it)

Am considering buying NA; it adds a few nations and has Revoulutions! And only 20 bucks. Anyone recommend it?

I've really enjoyed NA. Most of the changes are good, although the latest patch for it makes the AI cheat a lot to have a better chance. Some of it is a bit over the top (no maintenance costs for AI armies up to about 3x their force limit), but I haven't found it excessively hard on medium settings. A new patch eliminating some of the ai cheats is supposed to be out by the end of the month.

Haven't had a revolution yet, it takes a bit of work (centralized, aristocratic nation, with some type of monarchy, and something like 46 or so government).

screwtype

01-19-2008, 17:02

I've really enjoyed NA. Most of the changes are good, although the latest patch for it makes the AI cheat a lot to have a better chance. Some of it is a bit over the top (no maintenance costs for AI armies up to about 3x their force limit), but I haven't found it excessively hard on medium settings. A new patch eliminating some of the ai cheats is supposed to be out by the end of the month.

Haven't had a revolution yet, it takes a bit of work (centralized, aristocratic nation, with some type of monarchy, and something like 46 or so government).

IMO, the game needs something to make it more of a challenge. Although AI cheats are never the ideal method, I think a game as complex as EUIII is unlikely to create an effective challenge without a few cheats to help the AI out a bit.

Zim

01-20-2008, 08:42

Even before they added the cheats, I thought the game was harder than, for example, any of the TW games (at least from MTW on, I haven't played Shogun). I don't really mind the cheats. While it's a bit creepy to see one province Baden with a 10,000 strong standing army in the first years of the game, especially if you're a one province neighbor of their's who has to mint to afford your single regiment of low quality infantry, for the most part I think they've made the game more challenging. The AI actually keeps up in tech and almost always has a much larger army than yours (assuming your nations are anywhere near equal in size). I've enjoyed 2.1, but a lot of people have complained, and supposedly for 2.2 they're going to try to take away some of the cheats without making the game easier.

We'll see if they succeed.

Edit: I should have said "before they added more cheats". The AI already cheated some in the other versions, but it's been ramped up a lot for 2.1. I don't know all of the differences because I just enjoy playing the game rather than looking for them, but you can find lists in the forums for the game. One I do know is that the AI almost never suffers inflation, because they pay no maintanance for armies now (I don't think they ever did for navies). A few other's regarding force and supply limits seem to bother a lot of people, partly because it just became much, much harder to play a one province minor.

IMO, the game needs something to make it more of a challenge. Although AI cheats are never the ideal method, I think a game as complex as EUIII is unlikely to create an effective challenge without a few cheats to help the AI out a bit.

Tricky Lady

01-21-2008, 18:28

Grrrrrr. I invade Scotland with a CB. Eventually I vassalise them, but in order to make Norway cede the Orkneys, I have to occupy their 4 mainland provinces, but then, they won't just cede the Orkneys, they refuse my offers until I take Bergen off their hands as well. All the while, France is willing to cede Calais, which I retook, but not St. Martin, which I also took, which has a lower cost.

Very frustrating. I beginning to remember why I stopped playing Paradox games. :laugh4:

In my English campaign, I managed to end the second or third (can't remember: there were so many!!) French/Scottish/Norwegian war (I refused to give up Calais) by occupying Orkney. I was lucky that Burgundy declared war on France about 10 months later, and they really did well against her. I took the opportunity to ask France to cede Orkney. As it wasn't French territory they seemed more than happy to agree; must have destroyed the relations between France and Norway :smile:

I like this game - I just struggle a bit with the huge AI armies. Now I'm especially trying to group my navies into clusters of at least 50 ships in order to have an opportunity to beat the AI navies. Apart from the "blobbing"* of nations, I think this is really a great game. Oh, and my great kings/queens/generals/admirals should not die so quickly :inquisitive: I know, Murphy's law applies and yes you rather remember a good general dying 'young' than a bad general, but often it annoys me!
*When playing one of the easy countries (England/Portugal/...), of course I'm guilty of blobbing myself, at least in the colonies :shame:

Warmaster Horus

01-21-2008, 19:56

I played the demo once before, and didn't find it good. I tried it again, and I find it addictive! I played from 2 to 7 PM straight with Milan from 1492 to 1520 (demo limits, GAH!). I won against Urbino, Switzerland and Savoy, then began a war with Venice (hey, I was bored, and had a good army with me...). Finished in a white peace, then the Papal States begin attacking me! At that point it was 1518, almost 1519, so I thought "to hell with it, I'll just give up". Just let the game go by until 1520, and the Venetian-Papal-Modenan-Pisan alliance didn't destroy me by then...
Looking back, my main problem was taking as many loans as possible, and then recruiting mercenaries as much as possible... Got bankrupt a few times, that's for sure.

I just find it really, really great! I'm gonna get it ASAP.
I see MMG needs NA to work, so is it worth it? Even just for MMG?

Mouzafphaerre

01-21-2008, 20:06

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Tricky Lady,

Do try Magna Mundi. :yes: Long time no see? :medievalcheers:
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Tricky Lady

01-21-2008, 22:16

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Tricky Lady,

Do try Magna Mundi. :yes: Long time no see? :medievalcheers:
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Yup!

I'm not so sure about Magna Mundi - from what I read about it seems to be a bit too deterministic for me. Even though it adds many many features I'd really like to experience, I'm afraid it's just not my cup of tea.
But I guess I could always give it a try :wink:

First I need to round up my Great Britain campaign though, I'm in the 1720s now, and tbh it's getting a little bit boring now that I built a huge colonial empire (I even started fighting a gigantic Vijayanagar empire, stretching from present-day Pakistan til Vietnam and Indonesia) out of boredom.
And then I'll probably purchase the NA expansion... and then I'll have to decide which mod to play - Terra Nova (am playing this one now), MEIOU or Magna Mundi...

some images of my GB campaign:
https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8153/eu3125mj1.png
British Africa - mostly useless provinces (game-wise) but I like to create "clean" borders

https://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7817/eu3121wk1.png
And quite homogeneous as well...Even though I get a lot of the (random?) revolts lately - probably incited by some of my enemies (neighboring indian tribes in South-America or hostile African neighbours)

deguerra

01-22-2008, 04:47

Do get NA. It makes the vanilla game more interesting in quite a few ways, and you can play MM, and in my opinion it is worth it just for that.

MM does, however, ask things of you. It's aim is to put you in a historically accurate as possible a situation and to let you try to survive in it. Do not expect empire building to be easy, or even do-able with some nations in MM. Forming Germany? Very difficult (and I've tried. My Brandenburgian Emperor was ganged up on by France, Burgundy and half the Empire). Peronally, however, I find it provides a real challenge and requires real decisions of lasting importance that can make or break my nation. To me, that is fascinating, but it will not be everyones cup of tea.

Warluster

01-22-2008, 07:07

Another question; Whats the weirdest tyhings which have happened in your games? I've had several; Genoa owning most oif papua and some of Australia and Tuscany owning most of Southern Africa. Well, what are the strangest things to ahppen in your EU I, II or III games? (Or HoI 1 and 2 and CK and Victoria)

Zim

01-22-2008, 07:20

Hmm...I think the most common strange occurrence in EU3 is when Ethiopa manages to become Holy Roman Emperor. :beam:

Ming actually did not become huge in one of my games.

I've had a few where some strange country like the Papal States builds up huge colonies.

Any game where France does not become huge.

Csargo

01-22-2008, 12:24

Austria colonized Alaska and Poland has colonies in Africa. I found Austria colonizing Alaska the most surprising.

Tricky Lady

01-22-2008, 17:37

For me it was the Cherokees being a Papal Controller (but this was the result of playing a mod that seems to allow pagans to convert to christianity more easily). I posted a screenshot of this on the paradox forums; gotta check if I still have a copy on my harddisk.

Another thing I never saw before was Astrakhan colonising one of the Caribbean islands.

Or seeing kings such as "Charles LI" even though the king before Charles LI was a Charles twenty-something.

Mouzafphaerre

01-22-2008, 21:02

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What's your name at the Paradox forum?
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Zim

01-22-2008, 21:40

In my most recent campaign the Mamluks managed to beat Ming and all the southeast Asian countries to Taiwan.

Mouzafphaerre

01-23-2008, 01:08

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Released Flandre as a vassal, lifted all trade embargoes, even the one against *spit* Bourgogne and voilà! our reputation is "respectable" with ~1.4 bb and decreasing. :cheerleader:

Still nobody allies with me ~:mecry: but I'm determined not to wage war unless in defence, until paying off the loans (there are two) and getting rid of the war exhaustion; restoration of stability notwithstanding.
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Tricky Lady

01-24-2008, 17:52

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What's your name at the Paradox forum?
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I'm not really original, so you have one (1) guess :wink:

Not posting a lot over there, tbh.

Mouzafphaerre

01-24-2008, 21:57

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Yeah, same with me on both accounts. :yes:
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ByzantineKnight

01-26-2008, 19:12

What is EUIII? where do i get it?

Mouzafphaerre

01-26-2008, 19:42

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Europa Universalis III (http://www.paradoxplaza.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=117)

Napoleon's Ambition (http://www.paradoxplaza.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=190&Itemid=205)

:bow:
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OverKnight

01-27-2008, 15:35

I got tired of my easy England Campaign, so I upgraded to Napoleon's Ambition and started a Venice one on Normal.

Completely different feel from England. More war, trade and diplomacy going on rather than reckless expansion into the New World.

It's 1500, and I think I'm doing well using a combination of getting CBs triggered by warning my neighbors, conquest, forced vassilization and then diplo-annexing in northern Italy:

https://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb88/douglaslain/Venice1500.jpg

This was taken right after my war with Savoy. They had just diplo-annexed Genoa after having forced them to release Corsica a while back. Having lost the armies of their former vassal, I thought it would be a good time to strike. I deviated from my usual pattern by using a spy to establish a core on Nice and then attacking with a CB. I was taking a hit having a non-core COT so I destroyed the one in Liguria and all the trade went to Venezia. :2thumbsup:

I have to lay low for now to reduce BB and bring my new provinces into line. I hope Austria or France doesn't decide to try to eat me. They are both in Anatolia after the Ottomans got pwned by them, Poland and Lithuania. I didn't see that coming.

I'm having fun, and I don't even miss colonizing. Though I hope I can catch up at some point. My goal is to unify Italy, much like Zim did.

Mouzafphaerre

01-27-2008, 17:31

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I have a problem with vanilla with the latest MM (not Gold); I have zero badboy, honourable reputation, seemingly high enough prestige, 9th or 10th order amongst world powers, in peace, in royal marriage/trade agreement/military access deal with many and 100+ (including some 200) relations with almost everybody except long time enemies Bourgogne and Aragón (neither being Papal controller or Imperator) but nobody allies with me (except my vassals)! ~:mecry: I don't even send away the diplomats because the diplomacy interface says it's impossible anyway. :no:

Is that a bug or deliberate design or what? :gah:
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OverKnight

01-27-2008, 18:07

I'm not sure about MM, but there is a cap on how many allies, barring vassals, that countries can have.

Take a peak at who they're allied with, if they got two non-vassals as allies, then your chances for getting them to ally will be impossible, regardless of relations. Which is why all the useful allies are taken, while Naxos keeps pestering you every month for an alliance.

I find allies annoying anyway, they're always dragging me into wars I don't want to fight.

Zim

01-27-2008, 20:34

You're certainly getting close. :yes:

That's pretty cool the way those countries divided up the Ottomans. Usually I only see them die in my games if I'm the one who does it. :clown:

If you have the newest patch for NA (well, 2nd latest, I'm finishing my aars before getting 2.2) they added a feature where you can only colonize within a certain range of your nearest port. It may be hard to beat Castille, Portugal, et al to the Americas, but if you conquered a port facing the sea to the south of Egypt you could island hop colonies to South Africa, where's there gold and a couple high tax provinces. :yes: This would also get you a jump start on the Europeans to eventually go to Southeast Asia, if you desire.

I feel kind of dumb now, I didn't know COTs could be destroyed. :clown:

Mouzafphaerre, very beginning of the game is your best chance to get allies. The AI is pretty quick at getting allies, so it can get hard to find any very early on (except those one province minors half the world away that send you monthly requests for alliances :clown: ).

If you keep relations high with the countries you want to ally just wait long enough and eventually if they lose one of their's they'll send you an offer.

I'm having fun, and I don't even miss colonizing. Though I hope I can catch up at some point. My goal is to unify Italy, much like Zim did.

Mouzafphaerre

01-27-2008, 21:52

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If you keep relations high with the countries you want to ally just wait long enough and eventually if they lose one of their's they'll send you an offer.
Thanks sir. :bow: It's annoying seeing it impossible to ally with countries who were liberated from their filthy oppressors by the very sweat and blood of our spies peacemaking forces. :shrug:
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Zim

01-28-2008, 00:34

You actually used spies to foment enough unrest to create some new countries? I'm impressed. :yes: I never have much luck with spies. :sweatdrop:

If you're impatient another method is to find a nation that's managed to conquer a decent sized country. DOW them, demand that they release the nation, and that nation will automatically be allied with you.

Alternatively, you can get a country to release multiple little nations per war. It's a good way to weaken countries like the Ottomans or France, much easier than getting them to cede the same number of territories.

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Thanks sir. :bow: It's annoying seeing it impossible to ally with countries who were liberated from their filthy oppressors by the very sweat and blood of our spies peacemaking forces. :shrug:
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Mouzafphaerre

01-28-2008, 01:22

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French spies have proven successful, despite infiltrations from Bourgogne *spit* and Aragón. They managed to stir enough unrest to liberate Corsica, Sardiania and parts of Sicilia. They've been helping the Friesians recently, just out of charity of course.

:angel:
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Zim

01-28-2008, 01:50

Doh! If I'd remembered you were playing France, I wouldn't have listed them as one of the countries that strategy works on. :sweatdrop: France and the Ottomans were just examples of countries that tend to get large and gobble up a lot of minors (and France already starts with the ability to release a bunch of minors).

Nice, I have noticed rebellions on Islands tend to go unnoticed. I have a Navarra game where I managed to vassalize Aragon, and I let Sicily and Corsica rebel just so Aragon would be smaller and I'd have a better chance of diploannexing them.

Mouzafphaerre

01-28-2008, 02:19

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For sake of bragging:

https://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2829/2606nm5.th.jpg (https://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2606nm5.jpg)
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Rhyfelwyr

08-17-2008, 23:51

This is my first go at EU3, so I'd like to know how I am doing. I started in 1453AD, playing as France, no expansions or patches. Notice I got Bohemia through a royal marriage, and I can get troops there to tackle the rebels since Wurttemburg is my vassal (with relations of 200, I may annex when I get a better rep and leader), and I've also got military access through Mecklenburg.

As well as the map I posted of Europe, I own most of Cuba, and a few Carribean islands. My colonial heartland is the eastern shore of America and Canada, where most of my regions have grown over 1,000 and are now cities. Spain is dominant in the souther US, while Portugal just lost many of its south American colonies to Venice and Aragon. Mecklenburg is the surpise package, it owns most of Argentina! Plus Denmark, as you can see on the map. I also own some islands down either side of Africa, plus have two south African regions.

The Reformation has taken off recently. Almost all of central and eastern Europe is Protestant, with a few Reformed areas as well, although Austria and Poland and Lithuania remain Catholic states. Western Europe was all Catholic until recently, now about a quarter to a third of my provinces are Reformed. I don't want to convert however due to the tax penalty. I'm not 100% sure how the system works, but I don't think the trade bonus would compensate me for this. From what I can see of the stats, most of my income is from Production, so being Protestant might be ideal, but only one or two of my regions are, so converting might cause chaos.

https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3309/eufrancepicai4.th.jpg (https://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eufrancepicai4.jpg)

EDIT: Also two questions.

1. What is all this talk of becoming new factions (ie Venice becoming Italy)?

2. My rep is at "We are dispicable scum", but it fluctuates to "We haven an extremely bad reputation". How do I get this to improve more quickly than my diplomaticaly-challenged King's Diplomacy bonus?

Evil_Maniac From Mars

08-18-2008, 01:19

1. What is all this talk of becoming new factions (ie Venice becoming Italy)?

Unification. You can unify (control the lands of and therefore become) Great Britain, Ireland, Germany, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, Russia, England, France, the Mughal Empire, Persia, and Westphalia. Each of these require certain conditions. You can read about it in more depth here. (http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Special:Search?search=unification&go=Go)

2. My rep is at "We are dispicable scum", but it fluctuates to "We haven an extremely bad reputation". How do I get this to improve more quickly than my diplomaticaly-challenged King's Diplomacy bonus?

You can appoint advisors that reduce reputation points, which will get you a better reputation. I'm not sure about the exact details, but I believe being Papal Controller and/or Holy Roman Emperor will also lower your reputation points.