Uber Spearmen Need Tweaking

[Austaro]

After now playing quite a few games online and offline, I'm starting to think Spearmen need some tweaking.

I can understand their effectiveness front-on vs cavalry, but they tend to be a little too powerful against other melee units. Remember, these are spears we are talking about here...not massively long pikes. They should be reasonably supceptible to Swordsman attacks.

As it stands now, head-to-head in a front on engagement, spearmen can hold their own against swords and this shouldn't be the case. Afterall, if Spearmen are almost as good or as good as Swordsmen, why even build Swordsmen when Spearmen are so much more versatile (good against melee units and cavalry)??

Anyone else noticing this?

Austaro

[This message has been edited by Austaro (edited 09-20-2002).]

[Tachikaze]

The forum is teeming with complaints and debates about this situation. Check out the "60/40" and "Swordsmen vs. Spearmen" threads.

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[ltj]

ok

[This message has been edited by ltj (edited 09-20-2002).]

[kaevad]

remember when attacking with sowrdsmen, only the front row attcaks,
with spearmen, the front 2 rows attack,
with pikemen the front 3 rows attack.

swordsmen are better on a one on one basis, but when you are facing 2 to one odds , you'll sowrdsmen will have problems.

e.g
you have 40 swordsmen set out 10x4
enemy has 40 spearmen set out 10x4

you'll have 10 attacking, the enemy will have 20 fighting back

hope that helps?

[todorp]

The same ware the complaints of the real knights about the swiss pikes http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif