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KeePah
09-16-2002, 21:59
I completed my first campain today, from Early to Late 366 years. I have fighted well and conqured and lost many provinces but at the end I had England and whole france and some provinces at the mediterrian sea. And at 1454 a popup come and said that I wasent succeed.. That really did me disappointed after all that years and battles!!

But the game is great, I love that I dont need to conquer the whole world and the game ends. And its great that eliminated facions can come back after sereval years cauz its so damn boring with only 5 computers left or something. I want life in Europe. Hehe.. And the rebells coming with big forces so player/computers has some problems to solve. But why been defeat if u living thru the whole campain.. ARGH!!!

Well meet...

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Kraxis
09-16-2002, 22:28
You do need to conquer the world. Unlees you are fighting in Glorious Achievements.

[This message has been edited by Kraxis (edited 09-16-2002).]

Chromebender
09-16-2002, 22:48
I think you need control of at least 60% of the provinces by 1453, although you can win earlier if you take them all.

BTW anyone know how fast it is possible to win starting in the early middle ages?

Forward Observer
09-16-2002, 23:03
I understand that many like to take their time and explore all of the resource building stuff in the game, but you might just have overdone it.

Playing my very first campaign ,as the English on the normal difficulty level, only took me about 125 game years to conquer every province. I don't know whether this is fast or not, but then Shogun taught me to play the game very aggressively to avoid the Hojo horde.

You're just lucky they don't have Geishas in this game, or you would have really been upset at the game end.

Cheers

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Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl.

Mu
09-16-2002, 23:17
125 turns is pretty slow.

I conquered all the provinces in about 80 turns on hard playing as the French which is considered to be a HARD factions instead of EASY like almohads.

I did use EatColdSteel's no agents patch so that made things go quicker. less rebellions no stupid micro.

KeePah
09-17-2002, 00:35
Yes I know geishas as im an old Shogun veteran.

But I ment.. Does England own Europe today? Does any other mtw faction own Europe today?? NNNOOOO!!!! U should succeed in M:TW by just run your kindom thru the 366 years.... In reality if u own territory like whole Europe u should lost the control of it like every known big civilization empires in history.

And soon USA will fall too as everbody else.. And our European Union will also fall as Humans arent ment to lead big empires.

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Cheaters never win and winners never cheat!

Kraxis
09-17-2002, 02:06
KeePah... how many games end with historically correct situations?
Certainly not Shogun, there is only one way to win the right way and that is by winning with Imagawa... Ohh... that is right Imagawa was crushed by Oda.
And if you could just win by bottling up in your isles then the game would up being called Camping: Total War

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BTW, Danish Crusades are true to history.

You may not care about war, but war cares about you!

mav3434
09-17-2002, 02:16
It's not like theres some super cool FMV if you fulfill the victory conditions at the end or anything. You're really not missing much at all, just a graphic. If you think you won then i believe you.

eat cold steel
09-17-2002, 15:11
I thought the ending is a bit harsh too when I frist saw it, it's not easy lasting to the end of the campaign.

Kraxis
09-17-2002, 15:34
Patch pehaps??? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

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BTW, Danish Crusades are true to history.

You may not care about war, but war cares about you!

Alrowan
09-17-2002, 17:01
dont forget those credits....

Kalt
09-17-2002, 18:08
Ive never managed to get thru one whole campaign yet. I started a "no crusades" spanish expert campaign on early because I thought it would be hard, and Ive conquered from egypt clear thru into France after about 40 game turns.

Then I started a Polish campaign on expert/early and after about 35 turns Ive conquered ALL of the territories east of Poland and I set up a Poland-hungary-croatia border and now I am conquering modern day turkey.

Im guessing on both campaigns I will win once I start pumping out spies, because I cant even GET spies till turn 40 or so, which really slows me down but whatever. I think the quickest possible win would be about turn 60-70. 80 would be very fast using the un-modded campaign on expert and it is what Im shooting for.

dancho
09-17-2002, 19:29
You fellows need more

R O L E P L A Y I N G ! !

When your king is an alcoholic-- PLAY DRUNK!

If your king is a pervert-- HI SAILOR!

If he's a coward-- don't go near the monitor (do you know how much radiation comes out of them?)

If he's a loon-- IMPROVISE!

BlackWatch McKenna
09-17-2002, 22:48
Dang, I like the Role Play idea.

Now THAT'S humor!

Paladin
09-17-2002, 23:30
It would be nice if at 1453 you haven't won, that a little movie shows you being dragged out and burned at the stake. That would be a great way to end the game. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif

And if you won, the crowds are cheering for you. Come on CA, give us something more than some stupid parchment and a little .wav file telling us how nice it was that I won. I want raw, crazy, screaming people throwing flowers at me and giving me adulation. You know, much like what I get in my everyday life. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif

Whitey
09-18-2002, 02:49
heh - just copy the EU movies if thats all you want...

anyway...where is the fun in playing an '80-turn-game'

I guess I am just too lazy to me efficent...

Paladin
09-18-2002, 03:43
Quote Originally posted by Whitey:
heh - just copy the EU movies if thats all you want...

anyway...where is the fun in playing an '80-turn-game'

I guess I am just too lazy to me efficent...[/QUOTE]

What are the "EU movies"?

Forward Observer
09-18-2002, 05:09
I always thought that the ending to STW was a great finale to the game, and I always watched it, all the way through, no matter how many times I had seen it.

Medieval's ending is OK, and the voice talent is good, but it could have used just a little more action and pizzazz----like maybe a CGA clip of a generic game battle or two, maybe a series of still shots of various suits of armor, or even shots of sections of the Bayeux tapestry. There is a ton of stuff out there in the pubic domain that could really have really spiced it up.

The credits, however, are very nice. The concept line drawings are very reminiscent of stuff you see in illustrations of pages from Da Vinci's sketchbooks. Good stuff.

It is all kind of immaterial anyway, compared to the great game they gave us in the first place.

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Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl.

[This message has been edited by Forward Observer (edited 09-17-2002).]

KeePah
09-21-2002, 17:05
Dancho, roflmao =D Great idea..

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Cheaters never win and winners never cheat!