Unknown Error Entering Battle

[knoddy]

Howdy all long time no posting he he. too much time playing wow :O

anyway, i started a new camp the other day, after having not played for a week or 2 and bam, first battle i try to enter crashes on the loading screen saying an unknown error has occured. ive tried different battles. the only other suggestion i can think of is trying custom battles and the like to see if its all battles or just battles in that campaign. any suggestions?

Cheers Knoddy


edit.... just loaded in a random camp, fought a random battle, same error

[Monsieur Alphonse]

Did you use the unpacker to unpack the data files. If that is the case delete the 2 geography files in your data folder.

[knoddy]

i dont think so :S lol anyway i can check im fairly certain i didnt do that tho

[FactionHeir]

Did you patch to 1.2 in between?

[knoddy]

not in between playing no, its been patched up to date for a while now.

[knoddy]

im leaning towards a full reinstall which is going to suck majorly ><

[FactionHeir]

You using any mods?

[knoddy]

nope, only change to my game is small changes to descr_strat to make the game last longer, really wish i had kept patch 1.2 around somwhere ><

[knoddy]

if one of my files has become broken, or something stupid like that would downloading a mod and giving it a try have any effect? for example LTC if i can find it and find the right version lol.

[knoddy]

also is there any good link for the patch, i tried game spot and it died halfway through the download >< any links?

[FactionHeir]

totalwar.com

many links there. And getting a mod won't fix it. Sounds more like a problem with your install.

[knoddy]

>< was afraid u would say that lol, i got like 400/600meg done today and it died, ill leave it till tomoz prolly ><

Cheers Faction

[knoddy]

and attempt no. 2 was another epic failure sigh, gotta love wasting download limit ><

[knoddy]

omfg it gets better and better. full reinstall, patched to 1.1 cos i still dont have a working version of 1.2 and it still crashes same error every time wooot!


i hate my life ><

[Alpedar]

Test memory (eg. GoldMemory or Memtest86). Someone I read that this game is extremely sensitive to corrupt memory (but if one stick of two is problematic, sometimes helps swaping them).

[knoddy]

downloaded that goldmemory and ill test it after i finish downloading 1.2 just our of curiosity wot sort of memory error we talking bout? forgive my ignorace with pcs somethings i grasp somethigns go way over my head lolz.

[Alpedar]

It's something like corrupt file, but it happens on certain memory adress, not with specific file.
In some circumstances some memory cell returning something else than was stored in it (eg. if ones are around, it return one (but there are much more possible errors)).
If it happen to be part of bitmap, you have one pixel wrong and you don't notice. But if something saying what program should do is there, then it will do something different than it should (which extremely probubly will cause crash).

[Monsieur Alphonse]

If you reinstall be sure you do it the right way:

1. uninstall the game.
2. remove sega folders.
3. clean your registry from any sega / M2TW key
4. defragment your hard drive
5. install 1.0
6. patch to 1.2 (don't use patch 1.1 if you want to upgrade to 1.2)

Good luck

[knoddy]

the gold memory checker thing came back with nothing wrong, and if ur serious that i should defrag my drive that is ridiculus i mean i want my game to work again but it will take ages lawl.

[Galain_Ironhide]

Sometimes the long way is the best way.

Defragging would definatley be advisable especially after uninstalling a huge game like m2tw.

[Alpedar]

Imo defrag should not affect whether it crashes (but someone says that it helps, and experience>>theory). But it can help ovarall performance of disk operations.

[knoddy]

defragged gunna reinstall and repatch tomoz, also gunna leave memtest going over night on the .com forums the tech guy said its the only way to be sure ><

we will see wot happens ><

Cheers Knoddy

[knoddy]

full reinstall + defrag = no result,

i also ran memtest for over 10 hours last night with no errors found

any other ideas ><

Cheers Knoddy

[Galain_Ironhide]

Sledge hammer, maybe?

:thumbsdown:

When you erased, did you delete the empty files that the game leaves behind?

[knoddy]

yip, and the sledge hammer idea had crossed my mind lawl

[Monsieur Alphonse]

Did you clean the registry?

[Galain_Ironhide]

Have you asked this in the Apothecary section of this forum????

[knoddy]

clean registry - no, anyone tell me how, i always hate fiddling with my registry in case i break it :P

apocethary - nope, although i have a thread going in the .com tech support forums, although it isnt really going, they throw up ideas i shoot them down having already tried it :P

[Monsieur Alphonse]

There are several programs that can do it for you. I used Registry Distiller 1.03.

1. Uninstall M2.
2. Run Registry Distiller. You will get a list of broken entries in the registry. Remove the keys that point to SEGA.
3. Remove all SEGA folders that were left from your hard disk.

If you don't trust yourself with the registry you probably have to do a complete reinstall of windows :sweatdrop:

4. Install the game

[knoddy]

in case this helps when i try and run it with the -show_err command, it wont even load the game, it crashes instantly with a fatal error, BUT the error box title is CA_LIBS.

ps i posted in the apocethary, no response yet, at .com they keep throwing up suggestions but nothign has worked so far :/

[knoddy]

00:16:55.515 [system.rpt] [always] CPU: SSE2
00:16:55.515 [system.rpt] [always] ==== system log start, build date: Apr 23 2007 version bld-medieval2-update2-84 (37970) ===
00:16:55.625 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_0.pack
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00:17:00.718 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for ANISELECT
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00:17:07.750 [data.missing] [warning] Cannot find the portrait path: data/ui/mesoamerican/portraits/portraits/young/civilians/000.tga, using the default culture path if it exists
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00:17:07.781 [data.missing] [warning] Cannot find the portrait path: data/ui/middle_eastern/portraits/portraits/young/princesses/000.tga, using the default culture path if it exists
00:17:07.781 [data.missing] [warning] Cannot find the portrait path: data/ui/middle_eastern/portraits/portraits/young/princesses/000.tga, using the default culture path if it exists
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00:17:07.812 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 10671, column 23 :
we should only have trait(Berserker) additional affects for triggers(Battle_Losing_Berserker)
00:17:07.812 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 10789, column 28 :
we should only have trait(BattleChivalry) additional affects for triggers(battle3Chivalry_Dread_Not_fighting)
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we should only have trait(BattleDread) additional affects for triggers(battle3Chivalry_Dread_Not_fighting)
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we should only have trait(BattleChivalry) additional affects for triggers(battle3Chivalry_Dread_Routing)
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we should only have trait(BattleDread) additional affects for triggers(battle3Chivalry_Dread_Routing)
00:17:07.812 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 10813, column 28 :
we should only have trait(BattleChivalry) additional affects for triggers(battle3Chivalry_Dread_Routing2)
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we should only have trait(BattleDread) additional affects for triggers(battle3Chivalry_Dread_Routing2)
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we should only have trait(BattleDread) additional affects for triggers(battle3Dread_Let_Them_Go)
00:17:07.828 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 16753, column 27 :
we should only have trait(GoodDenouncer) additional affects for triggers(hereticinit1_denouncerclear)
00:17:07.828 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 16761, column 26 :
we should only have trait(BadDenouncer) additional affects for triggers(hereticinit1_denouncerclear_bad)
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we should only have trait(StrongFaith) additional affects for triggers(hereticinit1_faithclear)
00:17:07.828 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 16777, column 22 :
we should only have trait(Purifier) additional affects for triggers(hereticinit1_purifierclear)
00:17:07.828 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 17702, column 29 :
we should only have trait(CrusaderHistory) additional affects for triggers(crusades_6)
00:17:07.828 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 17703, column 30 :
we should only have trait(StrategyChivalry) additional affects for triggers(crusades_6)
00:17:07.828 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 17712, column 29 :
we should only have trait(CrusaderHistory) additional affects for triggers(crusades_7)
00:17:07.828 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 17755, column 26 :
we should only have trait(JihadHistory) additional affects for triggers(jihads_7)
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we should only have trait(StrategyChivalry) additional affects for triggers(jihads_7)
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we should only have trait(JihadHistory) additional affects for triggers(jihads_8)
00:17:07.859 [data.missing] [warning] Failed to find ancillary image data/ui/ancillaries/scribe_ancillary.tga
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00:17:35.218 [system.io] [warning] open: data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/map.rwm is missing
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00:17:38.062 [system.io] [warning] open: data/models_effects/building_fire_glow.cas is missing
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00:17:38.406 [system.io] [warning] open: data/loading_screen/loading_bar.tga.dds is missing
00:17:42.281 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.



system log report if it helps

[knoddy]

also i ran that registry scan thing, only came up with 1 Medieval 2 related thing and that was just to do with an old hotseat cfg file i had on my desktop :/

[Monsieur Alphonse]

also i ran that registry scan thing, only came up with 1 Medieval 2 related thing and that was just to do with an old hotseat cfg file i had on my desktop :/

You have to remove that key and that file. It is probably the cause of all your problems. A lot of people had problems because of a changed preferences file when they installed patch 1.2.

[knoddy]

i removed that key from the registry and deleted the cfg file from my desktop no workie ><

[LestaT]

i removed that key from the registry and deleted the cfg file from my desktop no workie ><

Try updating your graphic card driver ?

[knoddy]

there as up to date as i can get :)

[knoddy]

almost back from holidays still no resolution, any brain waves?

[Mad_BOB]

Hmmm, looking for solutions to what appears to be the same problem. Am running a 3 day old install on a one month old PC. Unfortunately, the teething problems inherent in both your first self-build and Vista might mean it's hard to trace the problem. So far, CTD with 'unspecified error' on attempting to assault settlements or fight over a river - loading bar fills first, then crash. When attempting to fight over empty field, i get a few seconds of it, then CTD.

As i said, PC is almost brand new, but has had teething problems. Still, there's little installed to cause registry issues, and the disk has barely had any time to fragment. I can't understand what can be causing it, and really can't be arsed with re-installing unless i have to.

Just for completeness, order of events:
1. Install M2
2. Patch to v1.02
3. Install Kingdoms
4. Play vanilla
5. Unpack and start fiddling(in mod folder)
6. Play Kingdoms --> first CTD.

Since then, i think any attempt i've made to command a battle has resulted in CTD. Am also not entirely sure about order of last 2 events, which i know is probably extremely significant, as modding may have caused something to go slightly crazy. Hope this info is helpful for resolving these issues...

[Monsieur Alphonse]

Did you delete the two geography files in the data folder after you unpacked?

[Mad_BOB]

I had to unpack it as a backup, to a completely different location (thanks to vista's ridiculous 'security' features) rather than into the data folder. deleted the two files from the mod folder once i set it up tho.