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cegorach
01-14-2008, 21:11
How low chances are that you can find something like that ?
I don't understand why some Slavs supports Jewish dominance on our land. Why Slavs worship Jew named Jesus, why Slavs worship Jewish tribal god named JHWH?
Why Slavs give their children Jewish names like Jan (Ivan, Janko, Jovan), Józef (Josip, Josef, Josif, Jozef, Iosif, Osip), Szymon (Symeon), Anna (Ana), Maria and many others?
We have enough our Slavonic gods like Perun, Swaróg, Mokosz and many others.
Jewish JHWH is our Slavonic Swaróg (Svarog, Сварог). Christian god and Jewish tribal god are gods of the Sun like our Swaróg.
Arabic tribal god Allah is our Slavonic Chors (Hors, Хорс). Allah and Chors are gods of the Moon. Vladimir Svyatoslavich the Great was worshiper of Chors.
Why Slavs want worship Jewish tribal god if we have our gods?
We have many beautiful our names like Mirosław (Mirko), Włodzimierz (Vladimir), Bogusław, Bojan, Mieszko, Bolesław and many others. Why Slavs prefer Jewish names? I know what mean ours names but I don't know what mean Jewish names used by Slavs.
Today Polish parliament and Polish president celebrate Jewish Chanukah.
I like Jews but their have his own tribal god and we Slavs have our own gods. We needn't Jewish god and Jewish demigod Jesus.
Perun is greater god than Jewish JHWH called Swaróg by our ancestors.
Polish leader Kazimierz Odnowiciel (Casimir I the Restorer) brought catholic religion on German swords on Polish land and forced Polish people to worship Jewish god. I don't understand why some Poles want worship foreign god.
I think that president of Russia shouldn't support no religion. But if he want support any religion then he should support Russian gods like Perun, Jaryło (Jarilo, Ярило), Dażbóg (Dabog, Dažbog, Дажьбог). Russians are grandchildren of Dazbog.
:inquisitive: Errrr...
Yep - this comes from a Pole.
I wondered how probable is to meet someone with such ideas in the real life.
I thought, how many people can have such beliefs in this country and I concluded it must be less than 0,0001 % of our population i.e. somewhere close to 380 men...
But now... this was found on a TW forum so the guy must be a TW gamer...
In addition this person has other unique traits - a Russophile who doesn't speak Russian, an antisemite, a warshipper of Tzarist regime (in Poland !!) who called some greatest heroes traitors (because fought for independence), an enemy of liberalism and socialism of any kind, yet a supporter of democracy and the consitution...
Conclusion - it is perhaps the only person with such ideas in the whole country - so in the real life I would never meet someone like this.
That is why the WWW is so amazing - some extremists and weirdos have very powerful voice indeed.
I don't mind that, actually, but sometimes it is so amazing that you can 'meet' people with so rare qualities.
Anyone here found someone so much 'special' that he/she would say the particular person certainly is the only one in a millions large nation/state for sure ?
No names, of course, but character traits, ideas etc...
Of course everyone is unique in a way, but some are more than that...:yes:
CountArach
01-15-2008, 03:02
I know a Pagan who I have met online.
Mouzafphaerre
01-15-2008, 05:04
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Somewhat outdated really. :yes: You would find abundant such types in 1930/40's Turkey. Some of them living fossils are still around. :skull:
Even worse, IMO, is the mixing/synthesizing of nationalism/racism/fascism/conformism with other stuff. It's the real problem over here for over half a century but let me no hijack your thread.
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Banquo's Ghost
01-15-2008, 07:49
A word of advice. Be extremely careful when considering linking to, or posting quotes from, "special" people such as that quoted in the OP.
Re-read the forum rules or run your proposed post past a moderator in PM if you have any doubts.
Thank you kindly.
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I thought, how many people can have such beliefs in this country and I concluded it must be less than 0,0001 % of our population i.e. somewhere close to 380 men...
What, neo-nazi's in Poland? Quite a bit more probably.
HoreTore
01-15-2008, 09:12
Doesn't have to be neo-nazi though, could just as easily be another form of extreme nationalist...
And I'd guess there are thousands of them in your country.
If I was to judge from your rulers, I'd almost think they were a majority, you'd have to be pretty nationalist to support an idiot like Kaszinsky(sp?) :laugh4: Come on, just got accepted into the EU, then try telling the EU what's what? That deserves a good, solid :whip:
Well, I know HoreTore. ~D ~;)
And I'd guess there are thousands of them in your country.
Nah not that many, a few hundred die-hards but they are pretty harmless. Nobody takes them seriously, they wave a few flags look scary and are gone again.
How low chances are that you can find something like that ?
:inquisitive: Errrr...
Yep - this comes from a Pole.
I wondered how probable is to meet someone with such ideas in the real life.
I thought, how many people can have such beliefs in this country and I concluded it must be less than 0,0001 % of our population i.e. somewhere close to 380 men...
But now... this was found on a TW forum so the guy must be a TW gamer...
In addition this person has other unique traits - a Russophile who doesn't speak Russian, an antisemite, a warshipper of Tzarist regime (in Poland !!) who called some greatest heroes traitors (because fought for independence), an enemy of liberalism and socialism of any kind, yet a supporter of democracy and the consitution...
Conclusion - it is perhaps the only person with such ideas in the whole country - so in the real life I would never meet someone like this.
That is why the WWW is so amazing - some extremists and weirdos have very powerful voice indeed.
I don't mind that, actually, but sometimes it is so amazing that you can 'meet' people with so rare qualities.
Anyone here found someone so much 'special' that he/she would say the particular person certainly is the only one in a millions large nation/state for sure ?
No names, of course, but character traits, ideas etc...
Of course everyone is unique in a way, but some are more than that...:yes:
I am sure you are brave enough to confront him face to face.
(in this case I mean where he wrote the post :laugh4: )
cegorach
01-15-2008, 17:09
@Banquo's Ghost
A word of advice. Be extremely careful when considering linking to, or posting quotes from, "special" people such as that quoted in the OP.
Re-read the forum rules or run your proposed post past a moderator in PM if you have any doubts.
Thank you kindly.
I don't think I did anything to suggest which forum and what thread it could be unless someone already read that out there.
I posted only because it was something with extremely rare probability - maybe less than the Pope converting to islam.
I thought, how many people can have such beliefs in this country and I concluded it must be less than 0,0001 % of our population i.e. somewhere close to 380 men...
What, neo-nazi's in Poland? Quite a bit more probably.
Neo-nazis are more numerous I am quite sure, but politically without any influence (never managed to reach anything anywhere - even smallest, most backwater town ).
@HoreTore
Doesn't have to be neo-nazi though, could just as easily be another form of extreme nationalist...
And I'd guess there are thousands of them in your country.
A neo-pagan in Poland who believes christianity is foreign and not Polish and should be rejected ... in Poland ? Thousands of them ... in Poland ?
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Read again...
If I was to judge from your rulers, I'd almost think they were a majority, you'd have to be pretty nationalist to support an idiot like Kaszinsky(sp?) Come on, just got accepted into the EU, then try telling the EU what's what? That deserves a good, solid
Why are you using plural here ?
Sorry, but not. Law and Justice lost the last elections and although now it uses populist-nationalistic slogans (in 2005 it was much more in the center-right than now and it was after the left-wing parties suffered from the corruption scandal called Rywin-gate) it never get any closer to something like this, especially with their very conservative voters.
In 2005 it got about 3 million votes, in October 2007 5 million (mainly because it devoured smaller populist parties and had extremely dinamic election campaign and due to economic boom), the problem is other 3 parties gained over 11 million votes - 7 million for conservative-liberal Civic Platform.
In any case to compare a nationalist party with some neo-pagan, anti-chrystian gibberish is rather very poor when it comes to logical thinking.
Unless you manage to prove so - please try.:whip:
@Viking
I am sure you are brave enough to confront him face to face.
(in this case I mean where he wrote the post )
Of course, as always - from the beginning. Anything more to add ?
No point of bringing this post here; you wont find anyone agreing with it. No, I do not think internet is required in order to be exposed for this opinion. (news papers - hint)
I wondered how probable is to meet someone with such ideas in the real life.
Oh, it will happen at some point. True story:
Young lemur was without a woman. My friends knew a hot ballerina, and set us up on a blind date. Sounds good, right? So I meet the girl at a nice neighborhood bar, and we get to talking and drinking. It only takes two drinks to reveal that she's a Holocaust denier. How does a smokin' hot bun-head in Chicago wind up being a Jew-despising Holocaust denier? I have no idea.
For a little while I tried reasoning with her, 'cause, you know, it would be a shame to not get busy with such a beauty. What about the films of the camps, I ask? Oh, you know how the Jews control Hollywood, and how they can fake anything. Uh, okay, but special effects weren't really great in the mid-1940s, now were they? Who knows? It's just film. Anything can be faked. Maybe they updated them later. Okay, what about the old people with tattoos of numbers on their forearms? Doesn't that suggest that the concentration camps were real? No, the Jews all hid in the forests and hills, and they probably burned those numbers on their arms to get sympathy.
A sad young lemur went home alone that night. And he made some angry phone calls to his so-called friends the next day.
Trust me, if you hang around long enough, you'll run into people with some very strange beliefs.
Geoffrey S
01-15-2008, 18:46
One of my best friends is a chap from Sarajevo who has some rather wild theories (and experiences), although compared to some of his mates he's pretty mild. He's great fun to have around, but don't get him started on politics, let alone the Balkans...
Mouzafphaerre
01-15-2008, 19:18
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Shame on the young lemur! :clown:
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Mete Han
01-15-2008, 19:34
Oh, it will happen at some point. True story:
Young lemur was without a woman. My friends knew a hot ballerina, and set us up on a blind date. Sounds good, right? So I meet the girl at a nice neighborhood bar, and we get to talking and drinking. It only takes two drinks to reveal that she's a Holocaust denier. How does a smokin' hot bun-head in Chicago wind up being a Jew-despising Holocaust denier? I have no idea.
For a little while I tried reasoning with her, 'cause, you know, it would be a shame to not get busy with such a beauty. What about the films of the camps, I ask? Oh, you know how the Jews control Hollywood, and how they can fake anything. Uh, okay, but special effects weren't really great in the mid-1940s, now were they? Who knows? It's just film. Anything can be faked. Maybe they updated them later. Okay, what about the old people with tattoos of numbers on their forearms? Doesn't that suggest that the concentration camps were real? No, the Jews all hid in the forests and hills, and they probably burned those numbers on their arms to get sympathy.
A sad young lemur went home alone that night. And he made some angry phone calls to his so-called friends the next day.
Trust me, if you hang around long enough, you'll run into people with some very strange beliefs.
Man you could have a hot fantasy like Lemur on Hitler's Secratary. Anyway I'm just kidding. ~:pimp:
In addition this person has other unique traits - a Russophile who doesn't speak Russian, an antisemite, a warshipper of Tzarist regime (in Poland !!) who called some greatest heroes traitors (because fought for independence), an enemy of liberalism and socialism of any kind, yet a supporter of democracy and the consitution...
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Or he was just trolling... which imho is more likely.
Geoffrey S
01-15-2008, 20:22
From Doorn Geoffry_S?
Den Haag.
Mouzafphaerre
01-15-2008, 20:33
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ADANA VICTOR!!!
ADANA VICTRIX :clown:
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Mete Han
01-16-2008, 11:27
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ADANA VICTRIX :clown:
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I wish.....
Mouzafphaerre
01-16-2008, 21:41
I wish.....
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I was being a :smartass: Adana is a town, so has feminine gender; therefore it's VICTRIX, not VICTOR (masculine).
But my Latin ends there. :laugh4:
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Mete Han
01-16-2008, 22:36
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I was being a :smartass: Adana is a town, so has feminine gender; therefore it's VICTRIX, not VICTOR (masculine).
But my Latin ends there. :laugh4:
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As far as I know victrix ,s an adjactive meaning conquering and victor is a noun or a verb. Remmember Maximus shouting Roma Victor while charging into Germans in Gladiator. Actually Hollywood may be misleading but it's still a thought.
Mouzafphaerre
01-16-2008, 23:04
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Well according to my grammar, which is hopefully more accurate ~:), they are synonyms with the opposite genders. :book2: In that case it should be Roma Victrix also. (Somebody with the correct info would jump in, I hope. ~;))
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Well according to my grammar, which is hopefully more accurate ~:), they are synonyms with the opposite genders. :book2: In that case it should be Roma Victrix also. (Somebody with the correct info would jump in, I hope. ~;))
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I vaguely remember more learned members being offended by the "Roma Victor" cry in the movie (this is around the RTW release timeframe). So it probably is supposed to be "Roma Victrix". Never trust Hollywood. ~D
Edit-> after further memory digging, it wasn't the movie that cheesed latin Orgahs off (statute of limitations, I guess), instead it was the video game Roma Victor. ~:doh:
cegorach
01-17-2008, 09:59
Or he was just trolling... which imho is more likely.
The problem is he doesn't - he/she is a true beliver in such things - I have seen the same nick in several places with similar ideas which are a bit too complicated to qualify as ordinary trolling - it really must be a case of warped mind.
If I was studying something connected to sociology or psychiatry I would try to write a work about such people.
It is a real gold mine !
It is absolutely amazing to see someone ferociously defending 'truths' such as that a poetic song about spring (and other seasons) is a hidden praise to a slavic pagan god of spring.:laugh4:
@Lemur
My condolences Lemur.
It reminds me a girl who was absolutely, die hard racist - it was so utterly repulsing....
BTW I am 28 and I had time to meet some people in my life, but this person is absolutely amazing in a certain way of course - almost exact opposite of anything which is somehow linked to being Polish accoding to statistical data, historical developments etc. After all how many of us believe Poland should be a part of Russian Empire - I assure you not too many. ;)
I guess it would be like an Amish supportedr of Northern Korean government who belives 9/11 was a consipracy of undersea creatures - tell me if you meet one maybe it is possible to arrange a meeting between 'our' two.:laugh4:
Mete Han
01-17-2008, 13:05
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Well according to my grammar, which is hopefully more accurate ~:), they are synonyms with the opposite genders. :book2: In that case it should be Roma Victrix also. (Somebody with the correct info would jump in, I hope. ~;))
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It does not matter who is right, only who wins!!!!:whip:
Mete Han
01-17-2008, 13:12
It is absolutely amazing to see someone ferociously defending 'truths' such as that a poetic song about spring (and other seasons) is a hidden praise to a slavic pagan god of spring.:laugh4:
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Good is a point of view Anakin. ... If one is to understand the mistery of the force one has to study all of its aspects including the dark side not just the dogmatic view of Jedi!!!
Seriously, he might be wrong but that does not give you the right to look down on him. If you do so you will end up in the same place as he has. Now as a sociologist I can study this.
BTW I am 28 and I had time to meet some people in my life, but this person is absolutely amazing in a certain way of course - almost exact opposite of anything which is somehow linked to being Polish accoding to statistical data, historical developments etc. After all how many of us believe Poland should be a part of Russian Empire - I assure you not too many. ;)
Met some very putin-minded poles and a few who hate his guts, seems to be no middle ground.
cegorach
01-17-2008, 14:18
Good is a point of view Anakin. ... If one is to understand the mistery of the force one has to study all of its aspects including the dark side not just the dogmatic view of Jedi!!!
Seriously, he might be wrong but that does not give you the right to look down on him. If you do so you will end up in the same place as he has. Now as a sociologist I can study this.
Maybe I am old fashioned, but if someone claims something totally untrue I DO LOOK down on him/her.
Because I know the song was about spring I intend to continue laughing if someone claims it is some neo-pagan praise of old slavic god of spring.
There is no middle ground here, no place for debating - it is a fact.
Mouzafphaerre
01-17-2008, 17:33
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Getting back to the original question, I know Fragony; who needs more? :whip:
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Getting back to the original question, I know Fragony; who needs more? :whip:
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Oh behave
Mete Han
01-18-2008, 21:08
Oh behave
Man, it seems as though you have like the highest number of posts made and how come you never got any award?
I started working today again, my life is miserable again. Who starts a job on a Friday rather than Monday?
Mouzafphaerre
01-19-2008, 00:06
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Fragony has the highest? :inquisitive: You apparently haven't seen this compatriot. :beam:
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Mete Han
01-19-2008, 22:42
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Fragony has the highest? :inquisitive: You apparently haven't seen this compatriot. :beam:
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after seeing that things will never be the same again
Man, it seems as though you have like the highest number of posts made and how come you never got any award?
I started working today again, my life is miserable again. Who starts a job on a Friday rather than Monday?
I got the highest postcount without getting an award award, it's worth something :beam:
Vladimir
01-20-2008, 19:23
Did someone say Putin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO70NlcqlBQ)?
Go puttie, go puttie, go go puttie poo! :elephant:
Please, somebody, be so kind to explain why is it that you, damn outlanders are so obsessed with CutiePute?
Our good old dear Dobbie is not receiving so much attention in our media as he does in Yours.
what's wrong with ye, people?
Why is it that you're so fond of this man?
Vladimir
01-21-2008, 23:32
Please, somebody, be so kind to explain why is it that you, damn outlanders are so obsessed with CutiePute?
Our good old dear Dobbie is not receiving so much attention in our media as he does in Yours.
what's wrong with ye, people?
Why is it that you're so fond of this man?
1. He has a cute nickname
2. He's an adorable little despot that you just want to hug and squeeze
3. Chetchens love him
4. Putin = Job security
5. The bear is back baby!!! :2thumbsup:
He's probably not in your media so much because his sloviki (spelling?) control most of it.
He's an adorable little despot that you just want to hug...
point taken ;-)
He's probably not in your media so much because his sloviki (spelling?) control most of it.
oh no, me was not saying "he's not in our media", me was trying to say "me see more articles about him in yours than in ours"
BTW:
silovik - singular
siloviki - plural
rough translation something like "powerboys" (media clishe anyway, not very common to use it in conversation)
Vladimir
01-23-2008, 02:59
Thanks I appreciate it! :2thumbsup:
Stay cool! :drummer: (hah, a winter joke!)
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