View Full Version : I am tired of winning by 1200
Yep even on Expert with Turks i can conquer the world by 1200. It would likely happen even quicker if i don't auto resolve all the battles in the late game.
Wait, what late game? i have never experienced the late game. typically by the time i start building feudal units i have most of the world conquered. so most of my armies are all spearmen and ranged.
i have never built any chivralic units since i win before i tech up that high.
what is up with this patch it
war_blah
09-21-2002, 07:15
Try this:
1. Play on Expert
2. Don't save/load
don't auto-resolve battle
Good Luck
Quote what is up with this patch it [/QUOTE]
Patch what you little wanker? you need to give suggestions or they dont know what the fuck they need to patch... i agree its easy, but you cant just say
"its to easy, patch it" ...
1) You didnt make the game
2) you didnt make the game
3) you are one person
4) you are not being at all constructive
5) Make your own game
the good people at CA work damn hard - they have us whinging at them to make the perfect game, they have the developers telling them to hurry the fuck up all the time, they have thousands of people with thousands of complaints - only a few of which are ever polite, well thought out, these are the ones they are going to work on -
simply saying "its no good, do it again" will not get you anywhere you annoying little prat...
(im in a bit of an agressive mood tonight)
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well theres a few things you could do to get to play later... one is to try start the game in the late period, another is to do next t nothng for the first ten turns, just play a little different from the traditional rush at the start
shokaku76
09-21-2002, 07:52
simple. Start out with like 500 florins instead of 5000, and give everyone like 20,000 florin. If ya want even more chllenge, modd the starup file, so AI start with more units, etc...
I play on expert
I auto resolve once i own about 2/3 of the world and have battles like 6000 of me v 1000 of them
I never reload saves unless crash
Face it AI is bad unless it cheats like mad and even then its managable.
Since the time of STW, I felt so bad about myself every time I read a post similar to this. Win STW campaign in 20 years (80 turns) on expert? Gees, whoever could do that, must be a genius. In the first 20 years, I could barely get off the ground to start conquering. I must be retarded, slow, too dull, thickheaded STW player of all time. I shouldn't play the game at all and should not have wasted the money on the game.
One day, I decided that I would take the challenge, attempting to win the game in 20 years on expert. You would be surprise if I tell you the result. It was the easiest campaign I've ever played and I won in less than 20 years. It only took me 66 turns to put the last province under siege and it fell in the 67th turn. I had nothing besides YAshi, YSam, SArcher and Shinobi. The reason: it is the period of the game that only the quantity of troop is important. The larger army just simply crushes or chases the other off the map. Every province conquered makes the strong stronger and the weak weaker and the balance is totally tipped. Was it fun? The first time, yes (sort of). The second time, don't even think about give it another try.
It is the same for MTW. Even though I haven't tried to win the campaign before the year 1200 (because there is no reason that I should), I think it's easy enough. In the first campaign playing as Danish, I had a King with 2 influence, 2 dread and 2 command points so I had to train him. What I did was put him with 15 Vikings plus a reserve army of 6 spearmen and 6 Vikings. I marched the army from Denmark through Europe to Rome to kill the Pope. Then from the Papacy State to Khazar, down to Palestine, along North Africa back up to Castile, return to Rome to kill the new Pope then through Europe again and back to Denmark. It took me 33 years to complete the tour. Captured and pillaged all land in my path. By the end of the tour, I got excommed twice, but no one had the time or resource to launch a Crusade/Jihad against me. I lost nearly 40% of the initial troops. The King returned home with 9 influence, 4 dread and 5 command points. So conquer the world wouldn't be a problem.
Is STW and MTW designed so that you have to play the game in such a rush way? Definitely not. It's only that you chose to play in such way. So don't complain, because you can play it differently. I agree that there is still much room for improvement in MTW such as AI, unit balancing, game play balancing and so on. However, rush is not the best way to play the game, even though rush-style exists in all strategy game (one way or another), because you will miss all that will come after the rush.
I hope that you will find MTW enjoyable again when you play the game differently.
Swoosh So
09-21-2002, 13:21
Mu there are other challenges to be had from this game, look out for the online campaign and maybe join a clan within it, then you will see what a challenge is , and you certainly wont win it early! Once magyar and co get the campaign set up ill be back, For the shogun player who wants the ultimate challenge the online campaign is the way.... The strategy side has endless possiblities with alliances and cooperative play.
Swoooooooooooooooooooooosh
Fear the wolves
mu, you ever play online in multi games?
i dont think u do and think that u should try it. online play is alot harder than single player games, and also u get to fight the best players in the world. u will probably get fed up of loosing then, within 12 minutes http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
hhhoooooooowwwwwwwllllllllllllllll
John Geeshu
09-21-2002, 18:43
Why is it that gamer gods, like Mu, are wasting their money on MTW? I can't understand why anyone would want to fork out 40 bucks so they can go bat-stir crazy and complete the game by steamrolling over all competition as quickly as is possible. MTW is a game to be enjoyed by those who like to develop their empire over time, with care and appreciation for the game's flavor.
I think Mu's (and gamers like Mu) problem, is he is playing the wrong sort of game for his style of game play. He has whipped the AI so badly that the game provides him with no challenge, as he sees a challenge, and therefore he is already bored and frustrated with it. Can anyone suggest a game that might suit Mu's gaming style?
Swoosh So
09-21-2002, 18:57
Golf?
solypsist
09-21-2002, 20:50
Quote I think Mu's (and gamers like Mu) problem, is he is playing the wrong sort of game for his style of game play.[/QUOTE]
I think the problem is people who, for some reason or another, feel the need to make themselves appear smart/strong/superior/etc. by saying such-and-such is no big deal, even though evidence shows otherwise.
come on, we all know this guy's FOS. Anyone who's played the game (try it), on these settings knows you can't steamroll and conquer the world in 80 turns-there isn't enough money in the world (from pillaging) to keep your armies together, build new troops, and make it to the other end, especially where the Turks start. And the same tactics for map-conquest that worked in STW don't work on this game, so comparisons don't cut it.
let's just ignore attention-provoking threads like this one and let's get back on discussing the game as it really exists.
[This message has been edited by solypsist (edited 09-21-2002).]
insolent1
09-21-2002, 21:24
lol nice1 soly u said it for us all
but maybe if he could back it up with abfew screenshots like my massive bankroll
http://insolent1.iwarp.com/00000038.jpg
war has just broken out with all the factions that are left & i'm still makin 23 florins a year http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
I have a pic of the after effects of the war ie theres no other ships left apart from mine
Insolent can u explain how to put that screenshot up? I want to put up one of mine showing how fast I could conquer the map. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
It is possible, and before 1200, but it is hard and you can easily get screwed by luck if you never load-save.
Nick Marcus
09-22-2002, 04:00
Argh.. Your demonic screen capturing ways have stretched the window. Side scrolling ahoy !
If it is possible to end the game really quick with a certain style of play, CA should inplement a saveguard. Last time I got a massive umprovoked rebellion after winning a few key battles = One of those saveguards ? What they could also do is slow down the increase in loyality. Maybe they could create a special high level unit like the cardinal wich would be NESSECAIRY to keep provinces in mega-empires form going AWOL.
Gregoshi
09-22-2002, 10:38
The rush strategy may enable you to conquer Europe, but not build an empire.
The XYZantines conquered all of Europe in 1200 AD. At this time Europe entered the Dark Ages as scientific, military, artistic and cultural development came to a complete stand-still under the XYZantines...
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Papewaio
09-22-2002, 16:03
Hmmm 68 years at that income with no expenses to get that bankroll... or probably half that (34 years) if income was trippled with trade before the war.
Leads one to suspect that the screenie should have be title 'Much Koku About Nothing' http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
i dunno why but i cannae get a view of that screenshot...
but heres my reply anyway : Bah! i could do that if i used the .muchflorin. cheat like you!
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