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hrvojej
09-22-2002, 03:48
Aren't there a bit too many of those? And here I don't mean the constructive topics, criticisms and/or questions. Too many threads refer to is this or that unit too powerful or not, or that the game is too easy (those that find it difficult will learn with time, I guess, so that's ok).
I guess it's only a matter of time before we see a thread about whether the peasants are underpowered......
I mean, people, if you have found a unit that works good for you, that's fine, deal with it. Some armies were just stronger than others, and those were the ones that won the wars, right? And all games have their own little tricks that you master sooner or later, and at that point they lose some of their charm, that part that was based on discovering something new. So, in my view, complaining about, instead of being happy that you did it, you figuring out what's the best thing to do in a game is a bit pointless.
As far as the multi vs. single player goes, it makes me wonder whether balancing the units to fit one purpose could actually ruin the game for the other. It might really be a good idea to have separate stats/prices for the two modes of the game, so that both are still enjoyable, and that your enjoyment is determined solely on the way you yourself like to play it.
And as for the people complaining that the game is too easy, I guess they can play some Chessmaster for a change.
I do however, enjoy a better part of the discussions here. It's just sometimes hard to find them lately.
Ranting off.......
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[This message has been edited by hrvojej (edited 09-21-2002).]

Nick Marcus
09-22-2002, 04:05
You mean (for example) my 'billmen are to powerful' tread ? Its not meant to whine but to show the developers an imbalance in the gameplay. Right now i almost exclusivly use billmen in my army because thats the way i always win (in sp,mind). I don't like this because it takes a lot away form the joy of using all those wonderful units. But what should I do ? ignore them ? That would be stupid.

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Stu35
09-22-2002, 07:22
Quote i almost exclusivly use billmen in my army because thats the way i always win[/QUOTE]

So dont... play with Cavalry Archers... i did, i am trying to play with every unit, i have even been know to use peasants on Multi(some bloke said something along the lines of "FANATICS? GALOWGLASSES? LOL! You Got No Chance" - naturally his Alan Mercs and Longbowmen were quickly sent a-routing from the field http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif)

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Forward Observer
09-22-2002, 09:10
Unfortunately, it only appears that a huge percentage of the gamers out there are chronic whiners. In reality, it probably just seems that way because the whiners are a lot more vocal right now.

I don't envy the developers, one bit, trying to sort through all of the trivial crap like "this games sucks" or "this game is buggy" or "I am so tired beating, or getting beat, by this game, it's not fair" or "the spearmen are all homos" or ---hell, the list is endless.

My all time favorite whine goes something like "this game isn't true to real life/history". Jeeze, get a life and go watch professional wrestling if you want realism. What a bunch of over-sensitive, at the same time insensitive, immature, self involved, over analytical, cry-baby wusses.

Wait a month or two until after all of the wanker newby nits have tired of this game and have bought, or warezed newer games. Then they will move on to bitch, moan, or plague their new game's devoted site, and this board will become a more enjoyable place to visit again.

To paraphrase something attributed to John Cleese---if this offends someone, then they deserve it.

Cheers

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Dark Phoenix
09-22-2002, 16:14
FO my favourite was "this game is to easy to win, I conquered 12 provinces and did it easily." Something like that, there is a thread at DD's forum on it.

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Nick Marcus
09-22-2002, 16:48
I hope you'r generalizing. I don't like to be called a chronic whiner.

Forward Observer
09-22-2002, 18:19
Quote Originally posted by Nick Marcus:
I hope you'r generalizing. I don't like to be called a chronic whiner.[/QUOTE]


Yes, I was generalizing, and your thread about billmen appeared to be a thoughtful criticism, and not a whine. It is just that there are so many posts in this vein that any constructive posts are getting lost in the crowd.

Also, I was feeling a bit cranky when I wrote that post, and also hoped that it would help establish my image as the resident curmudgeon of this board.

Cheers

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MagyarKhans Cham
09-22-2002, 19:17
perhaps u could consider that u rely more on the findings of others and ask them for a demo (online that is) where they can show u whats going on.

so many players need a lot of time to find things out themselves. and a few do know whats really the problem, and more players are are beginning to see this basic outlines.

some whining threads are constructive, and with your help the text may be better written. ask to be convinced, we are willingly to do so. hop online and search for wolf_magyarkhan. altho he himself dont have all the relevant info he cabn bring u in contact with others.