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And I burn the Jewish temple down, does that make me a good role-player or utterly anti-semitic?
When I play as Koinon Hellenon, and I set sail for another Hellenic city, and when leaving Athenai, I burn the Pergamon, am I being disrespectful for the Gods, or do I disallow the Makedonians to defile that sacred place?
As I heard a guy here in once say: "EB is best played when role-playing"
I for one, moved my faction leader from Ekbatana to Hierosolyma, and he had the trait "Royal Coin something", which states he makes coins that picture him as divine, etc. I roleplayed how he looted and destroyed the Jewish Temple and used the gold and silver stored inside to mint his coins?
How do you use this kind of role-play in EB?
antisocialmunky
01-28-2008, 21:08
And I burn the Jewish temple down, does that make me a good role-player or utterly anti-semitic?
Not unless you let them revolt, then you besiege it, then you leave, and then you come back and build the colliseum in Rome.
CaesarAugustus
01-28-2008, 21:15
Well I'm not sure if that's the best roleplaying, simply because burning down the Jewish Temple isn't the best way to pacify the population, whihc I'm sure would have been the first concern of any conqueror... Personally I would have waited and if they revolted, goodbye temple. Then again, the coin idea was clever, I always tend to exterminate the city when my general has the Bloodthirst trait.
I haven't played a Hellenic faction that has Hierosolyma, but I have taken it as the Hai, the Sabeans and Sauromatae. Since the Hai and Saba can recruit Jewish Spearmen, I repair or let the temple be as a sign of goodwill. Also, since the temple gives a nice 10% law bonus (at least for who I played as) it can cut down on corruption.
When I destroy a religious wonder (usually one lacking in benefits,) I try to use the proceeds to build temples to my own gods, (usually to the evilest sounding one :yes:). You could consider "destroying" a religious wonder as claiming the relics inside as your own (or just moving them somewhere else.)
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
01-28-2008, 21:50
When I conquered Rome as Carthage, I destroyed both their max. level temple of Jupiter and also the unique building temple of Jupiter. And everything else of course. I consider that roleplaying.:smg:
Hooahguy
01-28-2008, 22:06
you're going to burn in hell for burning the temple Hax..... :whip:
the romans did it, they fell, and so will you.....
lol jk........
on another note, i dont really destroy other peoples buildings unless its causing problems.
Gebeleisis
01-28-2008, 22:10
same here,they dont give the money necesary to build new ones so i leave them there
especially if they give +5 law :laugh4:
Hah! Foolish! The spirit of Seleukos protects me!
Hooahguy
01-28-2008, 22:15
the romans said that too! :tongue3:
.....just that fortuna was supposedly protecting them.....
pezhetairoi
01-29-2008, 02:10
well, in a way it was. Look at how they're everywhere around us in spirit and institution now... o.O
General Appo
01-29-2008, 21:05
I don´t ever destroy unique buildings, I just like reading their descriptions to much. Though whenever I take Kart-Hadast as Romani I always exterminate the city and then destroy every building in it. You just have to.
Reno Melitensis
01-29-2008, 21:17
If you are a great conquer like Alex, probably you wont burn the temple of Solomon, even if the jews revolt against you. The romans burned down the temple after the great jewish rebellion, it is said that Titus Vespesianus burned it down so that the jews will forget and cry for their misfortune. In my opinion any other superpower would behave the same if its power is challenged by a rebellion on a major scale.
Cheers.
artaxerxes
01-29-2008, 22:05
Hah! Foolish! The spirit of Seleukos protects me!
Oh yeah, cos' that spirit was already so good at watching over the later Seleucids....:inquisitive: ..... Especially in the 'uprising'-department, Seleucus' spirit doesnt seem to have done All that much for his offspring:laugh4:
I destroy factions I don't like ( =Romans and nobody else ). But then again, Babylonians destroyed the first temple of Jerusalem, and since they are my greatest idols when making my Mesopotamian empire, it would kinda make sense to copy them there. Think I'll do it in the next game ;)
Hooahguy
01-30-2008, 02:35
.....then you will burn in hell too!
think about it- the babylonians and romans burned it down, they arent here, but we built and we are still here....
Watchman
01-30-2008, 02:48
Yeah well, a lot of folks who didn't have anything to do with it one way or the other are "here" too... And depending on how you count, the Romans stuck around until the 1400s and the curtains of Byzantium. :beam:
Personally I'm more inclined to blame Persian badassery for what befell the Babylonians for that matter (ie. a regime change).
CirdanDharix
01-30-2008, 17:32
I depends on how rebellious the Jews are, or how cash-strapped you are. If you have any reason to burn it down, don't hold back--the real-life Hellenistic and Roman rulers didn't either.
Oh, and for pet peeves value, you're not a full anti-Semite unless you're also into exterminating Phoenicians, Arabs, Sabaeans and their ilk.
Rodion Romanovich
01-30-2008, 20:47
I burned the heliopolis thingy in Damaskos I think, as Pahlava, because I had really big economical problems at one point (and had to abandon the city that turn), but I haven't burnt any other monuments IIRC. I like to be respectful of local temples. Exterminating, on the other hand, is the only way the engine allows you to hold any city at all that you conquered after more than 50-100 turns into the game...
Olaf The Great
01-30-2008, 22:23
I don“t ever destroy unique buildings, I just like reading their descriptions to much. Though whenever I take Kart-Hadast as Romani I always exterminate the city and then destroy every building in it. You just have to.
This, along with the whole quinquix and Hast/Pri/tri thing is why I don't like playing the Romans.
Roleplaying them gets old.
General Appo
01-30-2008, 22:31
Have you ever tried being nice as them?
You know, only take nearby rebel towns and never do anything that might offend anybody, and whenever your attacked just wear the enemy out and try to get them to accept a ceasefire. Really, it can be quite fun.
Olaf The Great
03-02-2008, 05:29
Have you ever tried being nice as them?
You know, only take nearby rebel towns and never do anything that might offend anybody, and whenever your attacked just wear the enemy out and try to get them to accept a ceasefire. Really, it can be quite fun.This is how I usually play all factions. IE-Building up the best possible empire, then rapidly conquer an area, then build up...etc.
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