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Bactron
01-30-2008, 10:59
Once again, after successfully finishing all of my universty exams, I am on heavy EB junkie madness. During the last seven days I was playing my campaign at least for 12 hours per day. I am playing as AS, the year is currently 221 BC, I have managed to re-impose my rule over Baktria (I pushed Baktrians into the India), and now I am campaigning in Alexandreia with my Basileus Kallinikos (kicked Ptolies from Anatolia a long time ago, gained control over Phonikia, and Judea) and at this time I am besieging Alexandreia like for 8th turn (I want them to surrender, dont want to blitz the city for role-play purpose). And as you can see I am really enjoying this campaign very much. If someone would be interested and wanted to try this kick ass, sweet campaign here is link with my recent save. (there is some nice Ai progression also, Romans for example are advancing in quite historically correct way, along the coastline, they control land in west up to Emporion and east up to Segesta, In pre 1.0 versions they always seemed in my campaigns to go straight nort into germanic teritories. And this is now fixed I think thanks to those powerfull Boii and many other spawned armies)
here is the save
http://uploaded.to/?id=pbb31u

There are just couple of trait releated topics I would like to bring on. First of all I would like to ask if it is possible to reduce the trait "participating in Olympic games" and make it much more rare (and also completely exclude client rulers from gaining it). Because it happens to much often, not only for AS, but also in my previous Baktrian campaign. I think that it would be cool for example to allow only generals which have the trait "bored" to go compete in Olympia.

And second trait which is I think overused is a "mints coins of himself" for satraps (btw the Satrapal system and ancillaries are pretty awsome, it gives the game so much depth). Now it seems that even loyal satraps can gain it. And it seems that every satrap in my empire is minting coins with his face on them after couple of years. I think that this trait need to be also made much more rare.

Thanks for your time, and I would like to thank to all of those who worked or are working on this very best pc game ever, known as EUROPA BARBARORUM.
Now back to my addiction!

Tellos Athenaios
01-30-2008, 12:11
There are just couple of trait releated topics I would like to bring on. First of all I would like to ask if it is possible to reduce the trait "participating in Olympic games" and make it much more rare (and also completely exclude client rulers from gaining it). Because it happens to much often, not only for AS, but also in my previous Baktrian campaign. I think that it would be cool for example to allow only generals which have the trait "bored" to go compete in Olympia.

Hmm I'd say that it makes a good amount of sense for generals who can get the opportunity, to take a short leave for a trip to Olympia. What with it being also a matter of prestige of course...

'sides only those generals who haven't seen their share of campaigning during the season can go, so your view might be skewered by the playing style you maintain (for instance s.o. who keeps his generals to the governance of his cities will see a lot of competitors; the one who actively sends them on campaign and has a few of them campaign full-time will not).


And second trait which is I think overused is a "mints coins of himself" for satraps (btw the Satrapal system and ancillaries are pretty awsome, it gives the game so much depth). Now it seems that even loyal satraps can gain it. And it seems that every satrap in my empire is minting coins with his face on them after couple of years. I think that this trait need to be also made much more rare.

It's already done internally: basically it isn't really accurate to seem them minting so much, and so often; and in fact the loyality factor was a bit under-valued. So that ought to be greatly improved; unless, of course you generals are just a treacherous lot. :grin:

Bactron
01-30-2008, 12:54
Thanks for reply Tellos. I think that you have a good point about generals wanting to compete in Olympia and gain influence boost. And I know that there is a possibility to avoid this trait by moving your generals little bit. (in fact I use this a lot so I even often reload my game if generals gain this trait and move them before clicking on end turn so in result I have really only couple of olympic competitors, I have only four or five of them in my 50 years long campaign) But playing as Arche I have really lots of FM's and I used good portion of them as governors. And there are turns in which up to five generals decides to go on olympics. Nevermind, it really isn't a issue because it is avoidable by simply moving them.

But what comes to my mind is if anyone knows - how many athletes there were taking part in a Olympic games at that times (of course roughly, tens or hundereds?) And how many disciplines there was? I would really like to know. Thanks.

I of the Storm
01-30-2008, 15:33
The wikipedia has a bit of information about the disciplines, it doesn't say anything about the number of competitors though.

marodeur
01-31-2008, 15:39
But what comes to my mind is if anyone knows - how many athletes there were taking part in a Olympic games at that times (of course roughly, tens or hundereds?) And how many disciplines there was? I would really like to know. Thanks.

AFAIK wrestling, running (different distances, but no marathon), jumping (with additional weights!), discus / javelin throwing, riding and boxing were disciplines. Boxing was quite a brutal and bloody affair, being fought with bare hands, not too many rules and sometimes even leather-straps reinforced with metal pieces around the hands. There were certain multi-discipline contests, like the Pentathlon (5 disciplines).
There were also disciplines we don't know today anymore, like chariot steering and weapons-running, a running contestg of guys wearing full hoplite armour. :book:


No sports! (W. Churchill) :2thumbsup: