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Upxl
02-01-2008, 16:29
Playing one of my roman campaigns when conquering greece I had spies in all of the remaining greek cities.
I noticed that although they had no family member left their faction still existed.
After some looking but not finding in the nearest lands I decided to toggle fow and see where this little scoundrel was hiding himself.

Check this out;


https://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5316/greekexileiira9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

https://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1078/greekfactioninexileul7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Maybe he was roaming the world in search for new allies to aid his faction in dire straits or maybe just on vacation?

edyzmedieval
02-01-2008, 17:09
Haha, funny. :beam:
Oh by the way, I would censor the S word before some nice mod censors it himself and censors you with a warning. :tongue:

Upxl
02-01-2008, 17:53
woops,
I was fast but Omanes was faster.
He was very kind in his warning though :2thumbsup:

Caius
02-01-2008, 18:02
Its just me or there is a city left?

Upxl
02-01-2008, 18:25
:inquisitive:
They had a city left but no family members, none that i could see anyway.

The Wandering Scholar
02-01-2008, 18:37
Ha, serious pathfinding issue there. How come you have given the Senate a settlement?

Upxl
02-01-2008, 19:32
Oh,

Thats because its proving to be an excellent buffer zone against the aggressive ai so helping in keeping my alliance with Zhe Germans.
Otherwise they would betray me in a split of a sec.
you know how vastly superior the ai’s diplomatic skills are compared to ours right? :yes:

Even the dacians are proving to be far less aggressive.
I use this tactic once or twice in almost every of my campaigns.
None seem to be very much interested in attacking senat settlements.
Don’t even think I ever seen it happen though I’m not sure

The Wandering Scholar
02-01-2008, 19:41
Now this seems like a good idea.

Good Ship Chuckle
02-01-2008, 23:40
That's hilarious!! lol.
Strange though, I have never seen SPQR get another city, Iuvavum in this case. What is the story behind that?
This is an interesting campaign indeed!

Punicus
02-01-2008, 23:45
I've seen vagabonds in this game but this guy seems to have gotten lost - then took another wrong path, and another...

Also I'd like to note that it's interesting that my current campaign map looks kind of similar to that. Pontus and Egypt are the beasts of the East, Gaul is still alive and well, etc.

Hannibalbarc
02-02-2008, 00:03
Playing one of my roman campaigns when conquering greece I had spies in all of the remaining greek cities.
I noticed that although they had no family member left their faction still existed.
After some looking but not finding in the nearest lands I decided to toggle fow and see where this little scoundrel was hiding himself.

Check this out;


https://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5316/greekexileiira9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

https://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1078/greekfactioninexileul7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Maybe he was roaming the world in search for new allies to aid his faction in dire straits or maybe just on vacation?
Haha thats funny, I've seen a screenshot of a fullstack Greek army in Scythia when the only city they had left was the one on the little Island that gives a boost to trade(doh, I always forget how to spell it), I wonder why its always the Greeks.

woad&fangs
02-02-2008, 00:50
In my Numidia campaign, I saw the Parthian Factionheir sitting outside of Rome.

Caeser The III
02-02-2008, 00:54
ha, if im correct, i've had this happen to me once

Omanes Alexandrapolites
02-02-2008, 12:19
Pathfinding in R:TW, as noted, isn't always perfect. Although not actually in R:TW vanilla, in the Europa Barbarorum modification I've had a stack of Carthaginians land themselves in Italy and simply sit there - neither moving, nor doing anything useful such as mercenary recruitment.

BTW, Upxl, I'm curious as to the state of the region you have lent to the SPQR. Are the bordering factions attacking it on even marching into it? Recently a little research showed that no faction attacks the SPQR in Rome - I'm wondering whether this applies to regions outside of the capital.

Thanks
:bow:

The Wandering Scholar
02-02-2008, 13:21
I did not realise that path finding could get worse with mods..

Omanes Alexandrapolites
02-02-2008, 14:07
I did not realise that path finding could get worse with mods..It doesn't usually - I was using EB as an example since it was the most memorable of all path finding related problems I'm had on the R:TW engine.

~:)

Quirinus
02-02-2008, 14:18
Haha, this is interesting. Playing as a (non-Scipii) Roman faction, I've seen a few times a full-stack Scipii army led by a family member wandering around the vicinity of Pripet, not doing anything in particular, though I've never seen any other faction do that.

About the SPQR thingy, I remember we had this discussion too, a while back -- if there is a hardcoded limit against AI factions attacking the Senate, why not just give strategically vital but lousy regions to the SPQR? In fact, I believe that Iuvavum was the exact example I gave. xD

The Wandering Scholar
02-02-2008, 14:19
Oh right. Mods are a funny subject for me, I alays find myself crawling back to vanilla after a few weeks of a mod.

The Wandering Scholar
02-02-2008, 14:22
It would seem like an exploit though

Quirinus
02-02-2008, 14:27
Haha, yeah, it is, but then again, getting your best general stuck in some German backwater because it will revolt back to the Germans with a gold-chevroned peasant army if he moves out really sucks.

Ibn-Khaldun
02-03-2008, 08:23
Pathfinding in R:TW, as noted, isn't always perfect. Although not actually in R:TW vanilla, in the Europa Barbarorum modification I've had a stack of Carthaginians land themselves in Italy and simply sit there - neither moving, nor doing anything useful such as mercenary recruitment.


Perhaps they went to Italy to enjoy a good Roman vine?? :laugh4:
But to be honest .. something similar have happened to me too ..:wall:

Upxl
02-09-2008, 23:39
If its to be named as an exploit I excuse myself of any shame.
That illogical ai is the one that took me to these kind of actions.


Omanes:

The entire campaign no other faction even glimpsed in its direction.
Even Dacia who we’ve been at war with almost the entire time.
But the SPQR did build up a surprisingly big force even accompanied with some family members.
Although none of them ever crossed my borders to get there so they miraculously kind of spawned in there.

Omanes Alexandrapolites
02-10-2008, 08:47
Thanks Upxl :bow:

Upxl
02-11-2008, 00:30
Forever at your service wise Omanes :bow: