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Abokasee
02-02-2008, 13:36
In each of your TW games, what was your most common unit, not your faviourite but your most common
STW: No-Dachi Samurai
MTW: Feudal/Chivarlic men~at~arms
RTW: Hastati
MTW2: Spear Militia
macsen rufus
02-02-2008, 13:59
Hmmm ...
STW: Yari samurai
MTW: the best spear unit available at the time, depending on faction
RTW: n/a
MTW2: n/a
The Wandering Scholar
02-02-2008, 14:11
I spam hastati with the Romans
RTW: Early Legionary Cohort or Phalanx Pikemen
EB: Milnaht (Belgae Swordsmen) or Akontistai/Toxotai (Hellenic Skirmishers/Archers)
M2TW: Billmen or Kazaks
Hmmm...
MTW:VI Either plain old Vikings, or Gallowglasses.
RTW: Probably Hastati, but only because I tendd to finish the game before having much time to play around with legionaries.
EB: Classical hoplites, largely because even when I wasnt playing the KH I'd still hire them as mercs all the time. A possible contender would be those early swordsmen the celtic factions get, the fellows with the longsword who actually wear shirts (can't rmember the name. :help: ).
MTW2: Hard to say, probably either Italian Militia or dismounted Dvor (the former as a bread and butter unit, and the latter as one of my all around favorite units and main component of my Russian armies).
Broken Crescent: So far, Sudanese Longbowmen, or maybe Saracen militia (crappy but cheap and plentiful). This will likely change as I try more factions.
Ramses II CP
02-02-2008, 15:18
The best available spearmen. Everything else would change depending on the era, types of cavalry, types of ranged weapons, but I always bring the top tier spearmen with my armies in quantity... and not pikes, halberds, etc.
Even in Broken Crescent where I'm playing a faction without good spearmen, my offensive and defensive armies always have a substantial collection of spearmen.
:egypt:
What faction are you playing, Ramses? I started out with Makuria, but am trying the Abbasids after feling sorry for their poor performance in an aar I read.
The best available spearmen. Everything else would change depending on the era, types of cavalry, types of ranged weapons, but I always bring the top tier spearmen with my armies in quantity... and not pikes, halberds, etc.
Even in Broken Crescent where I'm playing a faction without good spearmen, my offensive and defensive armies always have a substantial collection of spearmen.
:egypt:
Hannibalbarc
02-02-2008, 17:23
RTW: Roundshield cavalry
RTW BI: Hounds of Culann
seireikhaan
02-02-2008, 17:54
STW: Yari Samurai
MTW: VI: Hard to say because I play a lot of mods now, but in the unmodded version, I'd probably say Szekely, because I loved the Hungarians compared to everyone else, and Szekely are useful troops all game long.
RTW: N/A
M2TW: N/A
Shogun: Yari Samurai
Medieval: Saracen Infantry
STW: Yari Samurai
MTW: Byzantine Infantry
VI: Viking Landsmen
XL: Voynuk Bladesmen
EB: Classical Hoplites
M2TW: Archer Militia or Peasant Archers
BC: Sudanese Longbowmen
Mouzafphaerre
02-02-2008, 23:26
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In my Lusotana and Makedonia EB campaigns: Akontistai. Best for garrison duty. :yes:
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TruePraetorian
02-03-2008, 00:53
hastati or legionary cohort
Spartan198
02-03-2008, 08:25
Armored Hoplites in Rome
Comitatenses in BI
Phalangists in Alexander
Spear Militia in Medieval 2
I don't play Shogun or Medieval often enough to have a common unit.
STW: n/a
-> MI: n/a
MTW: Camels
-> VI: Any kind of Huscarles
RTW: Camel Cataphracts if i can get them.
-> BI: Haven't really played it enough.
-> Alexander: n/a
MTW2: Most kinds of mounted archers. :wiseguy:
-> Kingdoms: n/a
Ignoramus
02-05-2008, 12:17
MTW: Urban Militia
RTW: Round Shield Cavalry
MTWII: Spear Militia
I agree with most other posters - it tends to be spearmen. (The only exception is as Rome.) I am not sure if this is because they are good, or instead because they are the worst unit and so die a lot, needing to be replaced. They are cheap, low tech and can hold off the enemy long enough for the real battle winners to do their job.
My killer units tend to be archers and heavy cavalry, but they tend not to die and I keep their numbers down for realism and to maintain the challenge. The poor spearmen form the frontline and so get hammered by everything - archers, cav, swords and enemy spears. Swords tend to be better, but are harder to get and more survivable.
STW: Yari samurai
MTW: Chivalric sergeants (or feudal sergeants on early)
RTW: Hastati or principes
BI: Plumbatarii (so much better than comitatenses)
EB: Hastati or principes
M2TW: Armored sergeants (so much better than spear militia, but still lousy) - mercs if England
A Norseman
02-05-2008, 20:56
Hmm.. tricky
MTW: Vikings.
VI: Viking landsmenn
RTW: Hasati or legionaries.
BI: Comitatenses
MTW2: Dismounted feudal knights or Longbowmen.
RTW: Long Shield Cavalry (Carthage) and Hoplites (Greece)
Gaius Scribonius Curio
02-06-2008, 03:28
MTW: Byzantine Infantry
RTW: Horse archers / Persian Cavalry
Tristuskhan
02-06-2008, 08:11
STW: not played.
MTW: Saracen infantery and steppe heavy cav (VI version)
RTW, only modded playing, so... RTR; Chalkaspidai and EB; Parthian noble horse archers.
MTW2, not played (are janissaries back?)
Yes, of course there's janissaries. :beam:
In Shogun, I think it's either Samurai Archers or Yari Samurai - like most of you. Not to say those are my favourites though, just two of the most useful units around.
In Medieval, it's probably something like Spearmen or Archers - some basic unit that you'd use a lot in the beginning of a campaign.
In Rome, either those Germanic Phalanx thingies (warbands?), Hastati or the Greek Phalanx thingies. Can't really remember.
Veles Shadow
02-09-2008, 20:33
I Most trained...
RTW:Early Leigons
MTW:N/A
STW:N/A
MTW2:Feudal Knights
EB:Hastati :help:
nara shikamaru
02-11-2008, 18:11
STW - Never played.
STW: MI - Never played.
MTW - FMAA
MTW:VI - Viking Landsmen.
RTW - Hastati
RTW:BI - not played.
RTW:alexander - not played.
M2TW - Not played.
M2TW:Kingdoms - never played.
Hound of Ulster
02-11-2008, 23:12
STW/MI.........warrior monks
MTW/VI (XL, P&M, NTW, ATW) Byzantine Infantry
RTW/BI (RTR, RS1.5, IBFD, RioFD, FATW, LoTRTW) Nomad Archer Cav. or it's rough equelvient.
M2TW/Kingdoms..not played
STW/MI -
Yari Samurai
No Dachi Samurai/Warrior Monks
MTW -
Saracen Infantry
Futuwwa
Camels
VI -
Kerns
Bonnachts
Gallowglasses
Celtic Warriors
Horsemen
RTW -
Numidian Cavalry
Numidian Javelinmen
Desert Infantry
Numidian Camel Riders
Warband/Swordsmen/Chosen Swordsmen
Slingers (when and where available)
Hellenic_Hoplite
02-12-2008, 01:34
In RTW it's mainly phalanxes.
In M2TW it's usually longbow or crossbow type units (with armour upgrades so they can also act as infantry) or some sort of pike unit.
PersianFire
02-13-2008, 21:02
"From the limited play that I achieve on RTW, it would have to be Hastati followed closely by Principes. I generally haven't played with another faction, but spearman always seem to be a good choice. Hastati/Principes are the bread and butter of the early roman legions and since I try to fight battles the traditional Roman way, the Hastati suffer the most casualties engaging the enemy first. (That is unless I get flanked) :shame:
Don't play the other TW series"
STW: Yari Samurai
MTW: Feudal Man at Arms or Byzantine Infantry
VI: Fyrdmen
RTW: Armoured Hoplites or Phalanx Pikemen
BI: Whatever the Frankish spearmen were called
MTW2: Sergeant Spearmen
Craterus
02-17-2008, 03:45
My longest RTW campaign was with Egypt/Scythia, so it might have been Desert Cavalry/Horse Archers.
Gallowglasses on MTW. Or um, the spearmen at the start, I can't remember the name.
STW: Yari Samurai
Eikon the Magistrate
02-18-2008, 18:23
MTW - Spearmen!
MTW2 - Spearmen!
The Wandering Scholar
02-18-2008, 23:45
RTW (Macedon) Pikemen with very long spears!
Lord Chu
02-18-2008, 23:55
M2TW : Spearmen
RTW: Hastati
Caerfanan
02-27-2008, 09:48
Good question indeed...
I almost only play MTW... I would say it depend on the factions...
Vikings in VI: axes, axes, axes (huscarles, landsmen, joms..)
Scots, Picts, Welsh, Irish: High attack, low defense (gallowglasses, clansmen, warriors)
Mercs, saxons, Northumbria: balanced but seeks the huscarles.
Oter than VI:
east troops: Steppe heavy cav/ Szekely / Boyards
Otherwise I love having archers with a potential melee capacity and/or speed: futtuwa, trebizond archers, bulgarian bandits... and I tend to "over produce" them
Rhyfelwyr
02-29-2008, 17:15
STW - Geisha's:2thumbsup:
STW:MI - never played the campaign more than a couple of turns
MTW - Urban Militia (never got far into campaigns, too impatient at the time)
MTW:VI - Highland Clansmen
RTW - Principes, Chosen Swordsmen
RTW:BI - barely played it
M2TW - Italian Spear Militia (used them tons as both Venice and Sicily)
M2TW:K - still to get
Ravencroft
03-02-2008, 15:37
As the Poles, you can't go wrong with... Spears!(the most current of course)
As the Turks , I can't go wrong with HAs/ Turcoman Horse.
haven't played any other TW other than vanilla MTW(which I am modding currently)
Artorius Maximus
03-05-2008, 04:44
Shogun: Total War - Not availible, as I don't own it.
Medieval: Total War - Feudal Men at Arms
Rome: Total War - Hastati for Romans, Militia Hoplites for Greeks.
Medieval II: Total War - Spear Militia/Italian Spear Militia
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