The Downside of Going Down

[Lemur]

Apparently too many men have been quitting smoking and taking up other oral challenges (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22956090/).


The sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer in women is poised to become one of the leading causes of oral cancer in men, according to a new study.

The HPV virus now causes as many cancers of the upper throat as tobacco and alcohol, probably due both to an increase in oral sex and the decline in smoking, researchers say.

Now, I don't want to hear about any Orgah using this as an excuse to neglect his duty. If you like gettin' it, you gotta give it, that's justice and the American way. But I think it's a good reason to think about giving boys as well as girls with the HPV vaccine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV_vaccine) ...

[English assassin]

For the love of god, is there NOTHING that is fun, and doesn't cause cancer?

[Lemur]

Any economist would tell you that eating out is expensive (http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/13/is-eating-out-cheaper-than-eating-in/). Doesn't mean it isn't fun, though.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Yes. Abstinence and Fidelity. Technically if neither you or your partner have had sex with anyone else, you can have all of the face first fun you'd like. Your chances of getting or giving HPV are practically zero.

I can't seem to do the abstinence thing, but I have the fidelity down pat.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Yes. Abstinence and Fidelity. Technically if neither you or your partner have had sex with anyone else, you can have all of the face first fun you'd like. Your chances of getting or giving HPV are practically zero.

I'm fairly sure that there are types of HPV that can be spread non-sexually, and I'm almost 100% sure that it can be spread from mother to offspring during childbirth. Therefore, even a person who has never had sex of any kind can still have HPV if their mother did, AFAIK.

That being said, I agree with you completely that absintence and/or fidelity are very important, and is the best way to avoid infection.

[Adrian II]

For the love of god, is there NOTHING that is fun, and doesn't cause cancer?You mean global heating? ~:pimp:

[Fragony]

I dunno smells fishy

[English assassin]

Technically if neither you or your partner have had sex with anyone else, you can have all of the face first fun you'd like. Your chances of getting or giving HPV are practically zero.

Appealing though the idea of a lifetime of clumsy fumbling with the lights out is, this news comes a touch too late for me.

Save me a bed on the oncology ward.

[ICantSpellDawg]

I'm fairly sure that there are types of HPV that can be spread non-sexually, and I'm almost 100% sure that it can be spread from mother to offspring during childbirth. Therefore, even a person who has never had sex of any kind can still have HPV if their mother did, AFAIK.

That being said, I agree with you completely that absintence and/or fidelity are very important, and is the best way to avoid infection.

actually;
link (http://cme.asccp.org/faq/histHPV.cfm#6)

]Can HPV be passed in any other way?

* There is no evidence that contaminated toilet seats, doorknobs, towels, soaps, swimming pools or hot tubs, can transmit HPV. However, some unexplained cases of HPV lesions do occur and one should never rule out the possibility that an HPV infection may have been caught in a non-sexual event.
* HPV types that cause hand and common warts generally do not cause warts in the genital area. The exception is the rare occurrence of warts in the genital area in young children that are due to these "non-genital" HPV types. Likewise, genital HPV types are only very rarely found in lesions outside the genital area. For instance, HPV 31 lesions have been described in the conjunctiva and subungal areas. Therefore, autoinoculation of HPV from one area to another does not occur except in the rarest of circumstances.
* Whether one can increase the risk of infecting the cervix by autoinoculation from external warts, or vice versa, is not known, but most individuals who have HPV lesions in one area of the lower genital tract probably already have HPV in other genital tract areas. Therefore, one should not be concerned about "spreading" HPV from one area to another.

Studies have been done suggesting that in convents there are hardly any cases of cervical cancer (except in those nuns who were sexually active prior to entering the convent).

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Your link addresses catching HPV from inanimate sources outside - I'm saying that if the mother had it, she can probably pass it to her children when they are born.

[Reverend Joe]

I dunno smells fishy
eeeeeeew... :sick:

[ICantSpellDawg]

Your link addresses catching HPV from inanimate sources outside - I'm saying that if the mother had it, she can probably pass it to her children when they are born.

The likelihood of passing along cancer causing HPV strains is surprisingly low for some reason.

link (http://www.babycenter.com/0_human-papillomavirus-hpv-during-pregnancy_1427380.bc?articleId=1427380&page=2#articlesection0)
Can HPV affect my pregnancy?
HPV is unlikely to affect your pregnancy or your baby's health. If you have genital warts, they may grow faster during pregnancy, possibly from the extra vaginal discharge that provides the virus with a moist growing environment, hormonal changes, or changes in your immune system. In most cases the warts won't pose any problems for you or your baby.

It's possible for you to pass the virus to your baby, but this doesn't happen very often. Even if your child does contract HPV, he's likely to overcome it on his own without any symptoms or problems.

In the unlikely event that your child gets the type of HPV that causes genital warts, he may develop warts on his vocal cords and other areas sometime in infancy or childhood. This condition, called recurrent respiratory papillomatosis, is very serious, but fortunately it's also rare.

The cancer causing types of HPV are from genital contact. The chance that you will contract cancer from HPV without sexual contact is almost nonexistent. It's like being afraid that you will die from ghost attack.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

It's like being afraid that you will die from ghost attack.

:laugh4:

Alright, thanks for reassuring me.

[Lemur]

I live in constant dread of ghost attacks, and I am deeply offended that you would make light of this threat. Look out! Ghosts!

[Somebody Else]

Neither I nor my girlfriend engage in such activities. It's the other women I worry about...

[discovery1]

Well this sucks.....

[FactionHeir]

Cancer caused by HPV is generally quite harmless with exception of cervical cancer.
If you can get rid of the virus in your system, the cancer remits as well, unlike "real" cancers.

[Rodion Romanovich]

@OP: Who cares? If you can't come up with better sexual activities than the activity of being a sucker, then you are surely... a sucker. :coffeenews:

[Kagemusha]

Well like any true gentlemen, im willing to die for the ladies, if necessary.:wink3:

[Rodion Romanovich]

Dead persons can't [the F word]

[rory_20_uk]

Good news everyone! There's a jab you can have that offers immunity to the most common types of the herpes virus. It's likely to be rolled out to 14 year old girls to try to stop the spread, but there's no reason that blokes can't get the jab.

~:smoking:

[Vladimir]

Good news everyone! There's a jab you can have that offers immunity to the most common types of the herpes virus. It's likely to be rolled out to 14 year old girls to try to stop the spread, but there's no reason that blokes can't get the jab.

~:smoking:

I hate when I get VD from 14 year old girls.

[Goofball]

I hate when I get VD from 14 year old girls.

*crickets*

[Banquo's Ghost]

*crickets*

Actually, we now have an appropriate smiley. :tumbleweed:

[Somebody Else]

I hate when I get VD from 14 year old girls.

The joy, after all, lies in giving, rather than receiving.