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bovi

02-10-2008, 01:26

Only a couple of the existing beta testers have reported their availability yet. Therefore we need some more new testers. We need both general testing and some specific tests we need run. So, what would it take to be a beta tester for us?

First, you'd need some time on your hands. You don't need loads of it (loads doesn't hurt either), but enough to get a good dose of testing done every couple of days maybe.
New players to RTW need not put themselves up to this, and new players to EB probably shouldn't either, as we need people who have a basic understanding of the mod at least. Seeing lots of problems where there really aren't problems is a hassle for us to explain after all.
Another thing that we would prefer is if we sort of know you already, at least a little bit from being around the fora. Our first beta test experience famously failed as one of the testers leaked the build directly to other mods, and we definitely want control over who the testers are and we'd feel better about it if we knew you a little, or you've had a track record posting here or at TWC. There are new things that are added in the new build, and we need people who are going to keep their mouths shut about the new features for sure. So for us to understand the chances for this, be ready to tell us a little bit about yourself also (not in the first post really, unless you think it helps you a lot given things like a college major in one of these areas the mod deals with or other skills in modding and such, but we'll ask you in follow up PM's if we are interested).
Patience. Some issues require repetitive testing to see how stuff varies, such as AI progression.
Finally, being really really interested in the mod certainly helps. The beta testers have also been a big source of new EB members over the last couple of years, but that is not to be expected for sure. In each of our groups a couple of testers were so good at solving problems and finding bugs that we brought them onto the team just for that purpose - and most have since contributed in other areas too.

Our beta testers mainly do these things:

Report bugs!
Verify that bugs are fixed!
Start up games with specific factions to test some of the new functionality. For instance (for 1.0, that is, not this time), the new Hayasdan reforms. Do they work if I follow the instructions? What happens if I do this instead? Is it possible to get triumphs with the romans now? That sort of thing.
Test game balance, possibly coming up with ideas to improve it.
Identify recruitment holes and oddities. Why are there no units in this region for the Ptolemaioi? Why are these Indian archers recruitable in Iberia?
Regression testing. Does all the old stuff still work as they are supposed or is some of it broken?
Play the game, reporting general bugs encountered such as missing UI cards and descriptions, crashes, spelling mistakes, glitches in unit appearances, inconsistent stats and other stuff that doesn't seem right.
Ooh and aah at the marvellous advances of the internal build :clown:.

We aren't sure how many folks we need, but I know there is a need right now. Who thinks they have what it takes?

Sassem

02-10-2008, 01:33

A big fan offer his help (2nd time)

d'Arthez

02-10-2008, 01:36

I am willing. And I shoul have more than sufficient time.

Stone and Blood

02-10-2008, 01:55

I'll be side by side with my computer for a good time. I'm with you guys.It will be very nice to help you with the greatest RTW mod ever.

konny

02-10-2008, 02:41

If I can be of help, count me in.

johnhughthom

02-10-2008, 04:22

I would love to help out.

Centurio Nixalsverdrus

02-10-2008, 05:13

Sassem

02-10-2008, 09:32

DVLCE ET DECORVM EST PRO EVROPA BARBARORVM BETATESTI

... but only if I don't have to abandon my current Qarthadastim campaign for I just got the reforms finally. Can I have both 1.0 and the new version installed and working?

:smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

That is possible i have multiple versions of EB running and i think it's explained some where how you can do that

Gebeleisis

02-10-2008, 10:24

Pick me Pick me!!!!!!:beam:

pls pick me! :D

bovi

02-10-2008, 13:57

I have EB from the 0.72 times.
Every half a week, i can play the mod enough extensively.
Im interested most on Rome, Chartage and Aedui-Gauls (they are my favorite western factions, played very long campaign with them) and on Parthians (they are my al-time favorite Eastern), im not a huge fans of phalanx, but if you need some test on phalanx factions, i could play some games with them. (I had some very long campaign with Epriros and KH, respectively in 0.81 and 0.74)
Putting it here to keep the applications in one place.

overweightninja

02-10-2008, 14:39

Hey Bovi
Would love to help if I can, have been playing since 0.74 and been round here a little while now so please bear me in mind ;)

EDIT
I see people are bigging themselves up a little :p I want my chance too, I have a fair bit of experience in both modding and beta testing outside of this scene, I won't go into details here just give me a PM.
Cheers

Hax

02-10-2008, 15:04

* First, you'd need some time on your hands. You don't need loads of it (loads doesn't hurt either), but enough to get a good dose of testing done every couple of days maybe.

I have loads. Loads and loads of free time on my claws. Let's say I have enough spare time to test stuff in one day that would usually take about three days.

* New players to RTW need not put themselves up to this, and new players to EB probably shouldn't either, as we need people who have a basic understanding of the mod at least. Seeing lots of problems where there really aren't problems is a hassle for us to explain after all.

I have decent knowledge of what causes crashes, inconsistencies and bugs. It's not great, but it's not nothing either.

* Another thing that we would prefer is if we sort of know you already, at least a little bit from being around the fora. Our first beta test experience famously failed as one of the testers leaked the build directly to other mods, and we definitely want control over who the testers are and we'd feel better about it if we knew you a little, or you've had a track record posting here or at TWC. There are new things that are added in the new build, and we need people who are going to keep their mouths shut about the new features for sure. So for us to understand the chances for this, be ready to tell us a little bit about yourself also (not in the first post really, unless you think it helps you a lot given things like a college major in one of these areas the mod deals with or other skills in modding and such, but we'll ask you in follow up PM's if we are interested).

Well, you can't really track it, but I've never betrayed someone in my entire 15 years of existence (Wow!), and I'm pretty solid when it comes to keeping secrets. Especially important ones.

I've answered some questions concerning bugs and stuff people didn't know on TWcenter, under the name of Elphir.

* Patience. Some issues require repetitive testing to see how stuff varies, such as AI progression.

See free time. And yeah, I'm a pretty patient person. If something doesn't work out, I try to relax, grab a drink and try it again.

* Finally, being really really interested in the mod certainly helps. The beta testers have also been a big source of new EB members over the last couple of years, but that is not to be expected for sure. In each of our groups a couple of testers were so good at solving problems and finding bugs that we brought them onto the team just for that purpose - and most have since contributed in other areas too.

Well, yeah, I believe this speaks for itself. Since I was 7, I've been very interested in Ancient Greece and Rome, and never stopped being interested. I'm interested in the mod because I want to give the public a good product in which they can enjoy themselves.

I've heard a statement once concerning games, and it said;

'It's better to postpone a release and have minimum bugs, than to release it soon and eventually give out patch 1.619'

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Besides this, I'm a huge fan of the mod and just being able to contribute to such a great project would be a great honor.

Hooahguy

02-10-2008, 17:18

ready for action! been here for a while, and wrestling is over in a week, so i have loads of time!
EDIT: and i can keep my mouth shut- im not called my my friends "the keeper of secrets" for nothing! (no, seriously, i am.....)

and with my new laptop coming in, i will have even more time, for i have a free period every day in school..... hehe.....

MoROmeTe

02-10-2008, 18:32

I am currently out of work so for the greater good and for the swift arrival of EB 1.1 I offer my services...

Centurio Nixalsverdrus

02-10-2008, 21:23

That is possible i have multiple versions of EB running and i think it's explained some where how you can do that
OK, pick me! I am alread 26 years old, so you see I am quite trustworthy.:grin: I am a student, and I have no money to donate to EB. Let me donate my time to you! There's plenty of it.

Hooahguy

02-10-2008, 22:59

so, uh, when will we know if we are beta testers or not?......

The Celtic Viking

02-10-2008, 23:11

I offer myself to make this great sacrifice. :clown:

bovi

02-11-2008, 00:02

so, uh, when will we know if we are beta testers or not?......
At some point we decide who we want and send PMs to them. After those are sent, I will notify in this thread that the testers are chosen. I guess monday or tuesday.

Puupertti Ruma

02-11-2008, 00:03

I volunteer too.

I've had EB since 0.7.4 times. I can do some miniscule modding stuff and got lot of time next week, less on the next and quite a lot after that.

*Edit* OO!! I forgot, I have done little testing to see if some rtw features were moddable. To be precise, I tested if the victory_conditions.txt worked with 1.5. I pressed a lot of end turns for two days, so I guess that covers the patience part. Also I did a quick check if the stat_heat would result in "out of supply" casualties.

Hooahguy

02-11-2008, 02:10

At some point we decide who we want and send PMs to them. After those are sent, I will notify in this thread that the testers are chosen. I guess monday or tuesday.
really? nice! please say teusday- it would make the best birthday gift!:wink3:

Hax

02-11-2008, 02:34

Depends on what you -want- to hear, though.

If it matters, I've been around from 0.84.

Hooahguy

02-12-2008, 02:45

wow Hax, you killed this thread as well as the Tavern!

Hax

02-12-2008, 11:59

Yeah, I've got skills! Skills!

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EDIT: Wait, sorry, I can't read.

Cang

02-12-2008, 12:30

I would like a chance to help out with beta testing. I am not much of a poster here.. as you can tell.. but i am a long time lurker who loves the game. I play more then i ought to. It actually got me into my major, Classics. I like to think that it gave me an edge. I have beta tested before and even fooled around with modding from time to time. I would love to help out my favorite game. :2thumbsup:

Gebeleisis

02-12-2008, 15:09

well i sure would love to help with everything thats EB and will hold out in the future :D

MiniMe

02-12-2008, 17:52

Me temporary leave from EB is over! Month or more of my life wasted on MII modifications was.. er... wasted :laugh4:

If I could be of any help, please, count me in
I have certain knowledge of EB (proud veteran of as many as five finished campaigns and some very basic modding of it*) , and I have time for it :yes:
I would be most willing to run full 1.1. test as Epeiros

Cheers

*I think I know how to make EB elephants turn pink and fly

Gebeleisis

02-12-2008, 20:57

overweightninja

02-12-2008, 22:57

I think they're trying to make the selection process a bit easier by killing of half us with the suspense eh? :laugh4:

Hax

02-12-2008, 23:08

That's what I've been thinking as well!

Well, best of luck to everyone!

bovi

02-12-2008, 23:13

Sorry for my bad guess, probably won't decide until tomorrow. You can start worrying if nothing happens by friday.

Hax

02-12-2008, 23:31

Haha, no problem, Bovi.

Yet everyone may die of suspense

Friday: "Congratulations guys, you're all in! ... Guys?"

Puupertti Ruma

02-12-2008, 23:37

I think they're trying to make the selection process a bit easier by killing of half us with the suspense eh?

Maybe it is a cunning and evil test of our patience! :turtle:

overweightninja

02-12-2008, 23:40

Like natural selection eh? I like it!

Haha, no problem, Bovi.

Yet everyone may die of suspense

Friday: "Congratulations guys, you're all in! ... Guys?"

Haha :D

Thanks for the update Bovi btw.

Cheers

Hax

02-12-2008, 23:48

Maybe it is a cunning and evil test of our patience!

*redirect to EB 1.0 previews*

I thought sadism was a prerequisite for the EB team.

Centurio Nixalsverdrus

02-12-2008, 23:53

*redirect to EB 1.0 previews*

I thought sadism was a prerequisite for the EB team.
So true. Last week someone said to me "you are indeed a mean person I think".

I want my member-banner type "Makedonia". Thank you guys.

d'Arthez

02-13-2008, 00:28

Ya. I don't know if I will qualify - a stay of 6 months in South Africa has not been too conducive to posting on the forums. I was actually surprised I could realistically download EB 1.0 there, and play it substantially.

I would not mind proofreading substantial amounts of descriptions and such.

But we will see.

Hooahguy

02-13-2008, 01:04

argh, im leaving for new york on thursday...... wont be back until monday (but my friend is bringing his laptop- with EB, so ill get my daily fix of EB) night.... then im home free- can you say "13-hour EB marathon?"

d'Arthez

02-13-2008, 01:54

Only 13? And you call yourself a fan!

The Celtic Viking

02-13-2008, 02:43

Only 13? And you call yourself a fan!
Agreed. I, myself, can get in 175 hours of EB in a busy week, if I also want some time with friends and physique. :surprised:

Hooahguy

02-13-2008, 04:34

well, i do have school and my gf......
EDIT: actually, before my laptop broke, and if you count hanging around in these forums as EB time, i get in every day besides the sabbath at least 20 hours......

d'Arthez

02-13-2008, 12:17

That is more like it!

Redmeth

02-13-2008, 18:23

Hax

02-13-2008, 18:40

Congratulations to all who got in.

Meh, better luck next time.

Hey, question. How did you do the picking? Just at random, or in another way?

Hooahguy

02-13-2008, 21:42

well, maybe ill be chosen nex time, as Hax said....
well, at least my gf will be happy i wont be giving my life to EB!
EDIT: congratz to all who are beta testers!

General Appo

02-13-2008, 21:47

Hooahguy

02-13-2008, 21:50

you have 40-hour days where you are? lucky......
lol

General Appo

02-13-2008, 22:00

Well actually, I live on Venus, where on day takes 243 days, 26 minutes and37.0164 seconds of Earth time, so spending 40 earth hourse on EB isn´t really all that much. Guess I should do a bit more, but the station always requires so many repairs I can barely get time over to sleep, even less enjoy my self.

Spoofa

02-13-2008, 23:47

if you need anymore then im up to it, ive played EB for a year or two now since .74 and I have a load of freetime along with knowledge of how the game works/what does what/you know what i mean.

Puupertti Ruma

02-14-2008, 00:18

PM's have been sent. thank you for your applications. If the need will arise we'll contact more of you who signed up.

Thank you very much for your interest and please don't get discouraged or offended if you did not get chosen.

Here's something to make you feel better [ - - ]

I feel better already, thank you! The pic is awesome, yaw droppingly awesome! So what are they? My guess is pantodapois.

johnhughthom

02-14-2008, 00:31

Good luck to all who got in, enjoy playing 1.1 before the rest of us.

(Of course what I really mean is, I hope the latest build is an unplayable buggy mess ~:pissed: )

Hax

02-14-2008, 00:47

Thank you very much, I hope the same. Well, actually, EB 1.1 was finished long time ago. This is the stage where we completely make the build bug-infested so you can crave for update 2.4, that we finished two hours ago.

Hooahguy

02-14-2008, 01:24

can you list the people who were chosen? or is it some deep-dark secret that must be kept until 1.1 is released?

Hooahguy

02-14-2008, 01:25

if you need anymore then im up to it, ive played EB for a year or two now since .74 and I have a load of freetime along with knowledge of how the game works/what does what/you know what i mean.
a liiiiiiiittle late......
lol!

Tellos Athenaios

02-14-2008, 01:26

Well, uhm, yeah, hmm, maybe if I, no better not yet.

Hax: don't torture them like that! The truth is always the worst to hear, so you might as well let them believe the myth that 1.1 is upon us. :grin:

Tellos Athenaios

02-14-2008, 01:32

can you list the people who were chosen? or is it some deep-dark secret that must be kept until 1.1 is released?

IIRC that's never been done until the release of the beta-tested version to public when the testers get mentioned in the credits.

I always figured that there must be a good reason for doing so, and one I could think of is the fact if nobody but the team and testers know who got elected then the testers won't have to be tempted to answer silly serenades from craving fans with info on the latest status of the mod. As for members: we've come to exchange this kind of 'tell-me, tell-me' posts with some light-hearted remarks or sacrasm or just a pack of lies to tease you ehm that is the full and inquestionable truth. :grin:

Hax

02-14-2008, 02:04

@Tellos: Damn, sorry.

Btw, I just finished the Dogs models for 2.9, but the Lorica Segmentata Romans are still under-way, I have an error with their sprites!

Have you seen Teleklos' Egypt chariot-models? They look awesome!

Hooahguy

02-14-2008, 02:07

im still working on the camel-raider models!
after that im onto the screeching women.....

tfarr007

02-14-2008, 02:24

oops didnt see the testers were chosen * edit

Centurio Nixalsverdrus

02-14-2008, 03:49

Thanks for saving my Carthage campaign.:2thumbsup:

bovi

02-14-2008, 12:31

The main reason why we don't say who were chosen is the off chance that someone who applied to be a tester and wasn't chosen would be offended if we made that information public. It's not a dark secret, and many who don't get chosen do indeed say so, it is then their choice.

Gebeleisis

02-14-2008, 13:28

*feels rejected*:no:

anyway ,GET them screenies comming guys!:2thumbsup:
im soooo impatient

Sarkiss

02-14-2008, 19:32

PM's have been sent. thank you for your applications. If the need will arise we'll contact more of you who signed up.

Thank you very much for your interest and please don't get discouraged or offended if you did not get chosen.

Here's something to make you feel better
https://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5990/picture035sp7fu1.jpg
was staring at it for 5 mins. still cant say for sure if its a bunch of units from EB1 merged or something from EB2 terrain aint good enough though:inquisitive:

brymht

02-14-2008, 19:56

Sure, I'm game. I've done a very good dael of modding on EB myself; including making suttle changes to the map, stats, AOR, units, getting it to run on BI, skins, and a few other things.

I would be more than happy to lend a bit of time on beta testing. Please let me know.

Hax

02-14-2008, 21:16

Err...

Default Re: Request for beta testers

PM's have been sent. thank you for your applications. If the need will arise we'll contact more of you who signed up.

Thank you very much for your interest and please don't get discouraged or offended if you did not get chosen.

Sorry, mate.

-Praetor-

02-14-2008, 21:37

The new beta team is already at work, and we sincerely thank all the goodwill and good spirit shown in this thread. :rtwyes:

At any rate, we will keep in mind all the people that have offered their help here, in case some of our betatesters doesn`t work as intended and we need replacements because of that.

This thread has served it`s purpose, and now it should be locked.

Cheers.