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Kongeslask
02-29-2008, 10:44
Am currently reading "The Cambridge history of Greek and Roman warfare". It mentions that the Ptolemaioi settled kleruchs from a wide variety of ethnicities, including Campanians. In another post it was mentioned that though there were Jewish kleruchs, they fought in the phalanxes alongside the Hellenes and therefore do not warrant a separate unit. The book mentions Galatians among the ethnicities, but does not say anything about kleruchs keeping their native fighting styles.

So what I was wondering is this: Is is confirmed that Galatians stuck to their "native" fighting style while being Ptolemid kleruchs? Is there any evidence to the effect of other kleruchs using non-hellenic fighting styles, evidence that might warrant other units?

Krusader
03-01-2008, 00:22
Am currently reading "The Cambridge history of Greek and Roman warfare". It mentions that the Ptolemaioi settled kleruchs from a wide variety of ethnicities, including Campanians. In another post it was mentioned that though there were Jewish kleruchs, they fought in the phalanxes alongside the Hellenes and therefore do not warrant a separate unit. The book mentions Galatians among the ethnicities, but does not say anything about kleruchs keeping their native fighting styles.

So what I was wondering is this: Is is confirmed that Galatians stuck to their "native" fighting style while being Ptolemid kleruchs? Is there any evidence to the effect of other kleruchs using non-hellenic fighting styles, evidence that might warrant other units?

Apparently most kleruchs continued fighting in their native ways, although there was a gradual transformation into phalangitai and later thureophoroi troops. Paullus might prove me wrong or elaborate. But I do recall Thracians & Agrianians at least fighting as assault infantry, Galatians were hired by Hellenic powers to fight as they used to being an efficient infantry type & Cretans were preferred as archers.

About evidence on Galatians, I do think there was some mention of Galatian swords & shields being adorned in a large Ptolemaic temple.