View Full Version : Creative Assembly Question for Longjohn2
Michael the Great
10-06-2002, 17:55
I know we don't have a release date yet...but my question is:Will the patch be released this year???
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Io,Mihai-Voda,din mila lui Dumnezeu,domn al Tarii Romanesti,Tarii Ardealului si a toata tara Moldovei.
MajorPain
10-06-2002, 19:07
Great question.
Bravo!!!!
IMHO complete the patch and make your customers happy so we dont regret wasting our money the "best game of the millenium"
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STW will always be #1
If it isn't released soon, what is left of this game's tiny multiplayer community will wither and die.
I believe it's getting final tweaks and playtesting right now. Hopefully it's a week away or less.
MajorPain
10-06-2002, 19:38
Why didnt they playtest the game before they released it and if they did why is there so damn many bugs. Devs can you answer that???
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STW will always be #1
The thing that angers me is this automatic presumption that only SP deserves to be balanced while multiplayer has "afterthought" status.
You only need to see the state of Gamespy to know what CA think of MP MTW.
I want to know why MP isn't balanced when this game is being sold with an MP option? Why, for example, aren't MP Florin values balanced?
[This message has been edited by Austaro (edited 10-06-2002).]
longjohn2
10-06-2002, 20:47
The patch has been submitted to Activision for testing. Hopefully it will be released soon, but I don't know when.
stranger_2
10-06-2002, 20:47
and pliiiiiiz enable the MP campaign!
Lack of it really kills the community. Many poeple (including me) are waiting 4 it since the first release of STW!
Longjohn I onestly think U R a hell of a programmers. It's not, that the game is simply gr8, but HOW U made it. I could play STW 32 units battles on 166MMX with no problem. What it means 2 me is, that the engine is simply INCREDIBLE. IMHO if somebody else would create it I would probably have to wait for PIII http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
But if U R so good, then why U make us wait 4 MPcamp. 4 so long? If they can can make it 4 civ3, which is so complicated (and also takin into consideration that U solved the MP battles problem so long ago) then it shouldn't be so hard 4 U!
Ok, I feel bit mistreated, but I still have faith in U http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
stranger_2
10-06-2002, 21:04
right... am being obtrusive here... and any news bout MPcampaign?
They have said again and again there will be no multiplayer campaign.
Grifman
stranger_2
10-06-2002, 21:49
gosh... U couldn't give me a worse surprise
if it's so, then sorry 4 another out-of-time question, but I did some search before I asked it. simply most of the posts on this were 404 and all I found in those, which were not, was EatColdSteel saying that the MPC won't be included IN THE PATCH, not that they're not gonna make it AT ALL
They said that they tried, but ran into all sorts of issues that were very complicated - at least they sounded complicated to a layman such as myself http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif. Of course, anything COULD be done with enough time and/or money, but obviously they didn't have enough of either to do it.
Grifman
MajorFreak
10-06-2002, 22:47
well...for one thing, QA is a nitpicking *%$^% (they "playtest" the patch instead of rubberstamp it; i believe they also do "localization")And if there was that many bugs, you've gotta realize it was the publisher's pressure that did it. and guess who owns the QA division? Those guys might even be rubberstamping the next new game, so MTW might have to queue up. lol[/list]The other thing is, if you really visualize it, the multiplayer campaign would be next to impossible to hold your attention...imagine one player fighting 3 other players and the computer factions too in one turn? Not to mention all that micromanagement with strategic units. (thank you, CA for making 'autocompletes')though i wish instead of multiplayer MTW, a more involved diplomacy and related subgame. One where high honor emissaries/bishops/daughters/spies mean something other than a "sidebenefit" to the whims of the AI (though i haven't a clue how to visualize that yet)
Not to mention fighting those naval combats for real. *g*[/list]
looser come on now, this is silly. People are tired of hearing about requests for mp campaign.
And you feel mistreated because you didn't get one?! Good grief.
Go learn some coding and figure out just how friggin HARD it would be to code an mp campaign.
You said "enable it". WTF is that?! It's not like it's just a binary switch longjohn decided not to set active. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif
[This message has been edited by JRock (edited 10-07-2002).]
Hakonarson
10-07-2002, 06:39
Gee Rock - someone posts that they want a MP campaign and yuo reply that they should shut up because no-one wants a MP campaign - that's not all that clever, or polite, or useful, or (IMO) welcome!
What's wrong with wanting a MP campaign??
It ain't gonna happen, but that doesn't meant you have to be an @rsehole about it - even the guy who was disappointed it ain't gonna happen managed to at least be polite!
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Perhaps if you actually took the time to read this forum, you'd know this issue is constantly being addressed. Everyone's sick of hearing about it, and especially from people with childish posts like his.
ToranagaSama
10-07-2002, 07:21
Now, you all see who started this shit, right??
Fuck YOU!! JRock.
With a mentality like yours, we'd all be living in caves. The US would still be 13 colonies. The world would still be flat. Japan would still be closed. The moon would be made of cheese. And, oh, ahhhhh....Tactical MP and the GameSpy problems will NEVER be solved.
Personally, I don't want to here another Fkn word about the Tactical MP. I truly don't give a dmn; and I ain't alone! If there's another thread comparing the stats of the MAA vs. CMAA vs. the elephant, I think I'll explode. Whaaa, oh, I guess that's what I'm doing NOW!
How the H do YOU know who and how many want C-MP?? Presumptious snot!
The fact of the matter is that it CAN be done.
The fact of the matter is quite evident that the problems lie in implenting whatever "vision" CA had/has of C-MP within the confines of the existing code.
Do you get that? Or is a bit too complicated for ya?
Crap, with your mentality there wouldn't even be a Total War game to begin with.
Everything of any value that's been done, has had some idiota who said, "can't be done", "shouldn't be done", "won't be done", "I don't want it to be done"; thankfully, there are those who refuse to accept such mentality AND that's how things get DONE!!
I've got a fiver that says your a Teacher. Haha....
Hakonarson
10-07-2002, 07:27
Rock not everyone has been on the Forum forever - new people are finding it every day.
Are you really sugegsting hey have to read every post that's ever been made?
What's worse the question had already been answered, and the asker had replied, expressing his disappointment & understanding, and then you piled in spouting off insults.
Note a good look mate!!
All that's required is a simple answer, or, jsut perhaps, don't post anything 'cos the answer had already been given!!
Soapyfrog
10-07-2002, 07:42
People who DONT want a MP campaign, and whose names ALSO begins with a J, ends with a K and have a ROC in the middle, are STUPID IDIOT LOOSERS!!! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Personally I think there are a large number of people who wish there were and MP campaign, and a fair number of people who don't care, and a small small minority who feel it should NOT be in the game... who knows why??
Most of us who have been on these boards have slowly worked through the 5 steps to acceptance that no MP campaign is forthcoming, but it is undoubtedly a shock to newcomers, who, seeing the potential, learn that it won't happen.
http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif
Wow, you guys are so cool! I want to be like you guys!
This is the last time I bother sticking up for CA, who are at least as sick and tired of hearing requests for mp campaign as I am.
Hakonarson
10-07-2002, 08:37
I'm sure CA are rapt that you're championing their cause, but I suspect they'd be happier if you were polite when you did so.
http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif
Whatever, I was as polite as circumstances dictated. Stop getting yourself all wound up about what I post.
Quote Originally posted by JRock:
If it isn't released soon, what is left of this game's tiny multiplayer community will wither and die.[/QUOTE]
HAH, I can tell you werent here for MI. Our "tiny" multiplayer community is close to 10x larger then MI, if not more
Quote Originally posted by JRock:
I believe it's getting final tweaks and playtesting right now. Hopefully it's a week away or less.[/QUOTE]
And no, I didn't play Shogun online. I played many other games online, but Shogun was a singleplayer game for me.
[This message has been edited by JRock (edited 10-07-2002).]
Michael the Great
10-08-2002, 03:05
Art thou people saying that thy topic isn't good?
I think it is VERY GOOD!
And stop fighting,just face the facts and--There will never be a MP campaign!!!
It's hard to implement it even in thy next TW.
I,have spoken!!!
Oh,and Longjohn,will it be released this year? That's all I want to know...
Dionysus9
10-08-2002, 04:04
He said he didn't know when it would be released.
I assume it will be released this year.
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