Diplomatic Relations

I am currently on with an England Campaign. For a mission I have been asked to obtain "diplomatic relations" with the Spanish. What do I have to do to achieve this mission? just trade or something big like an alliance?

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Just use a diplomat to contact them. Don't even have to conclude a deal.

:egypt:

Now that was one quick reply Ramses II CP. My thanks.

IIRC you have to have some kind of successful diplomacy with the target faction. Once when I got that mission, I tried for the ATM (alliance, trade, map info) package and gotten turned down. I forgot the diplomat for a couple of turns and left him sitting before I tried that offer on the last turn of the mission (this was before I knew that you could make multiple offers on the same screen). Next turn I got the "mission failed" screen.

In a later campaign, I got the Initiate Diplomacy mission for a faction I was at Abysmal relations with, tried for trade rights and got turned down tried for maps and got turned down and they closed the screen on me. I had an extra turn before the mission was up, so what I did was on the next turn, I gifted them 100 fl, and the mission was completed. It seems that to pass that mission, some type of deal must be concluded, but it can be anything, even a gift (which rarely will get refused-the only time I've ever gotten a refusal on a gift offer was when I've executed their prisoners, sacked and exterminated their settlements, and been at war with them for a long time AND deceitful reputation.)

seems like it takes a lot to get the AI to refuse a gift.

Yeah, the same as the other guy said. You cant just talk to them about diplomacy, you have to actually succeed in diplomatic terms with them. I do believe it could be anything, but it is easier to do when you have a higher reputation, on my current campaign as scotland, my reputation is good, but not with spain and england, as every time i destroy there numerous armies i lop the head off every man in sight and leave them for the crows.

Mmm, FYI you can almost always gift map information to get a diplomatic 'success' at no cost. You can also gift an attack against the rebels as another freebie.

I should've tested it before I posted, but I can't recall if I have a save with one of those missions on tap.

:egypt:

Just gift them something small like 100 fl or map info..dont try to trade for something because if they refuse you can lose valuable time.

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Originally Posted by Ramses II CP

You can also gift an attack against the rebels as another freebie.
:egypt:

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Its great when you do this and then evict the rebel stack from your territory onto theirs. :laugh4:

How cruel Eikon.

Aaaah, nice...

Has anybody actually bribed a rebel sucessfully, they seem to hate me, mostly because i am forced to decapitate them but, meh