Interesting new discovery...

I don't know if anyone else has discovered this but in the "export_descr_ancillaries" file there are famous historical figures (Archimedes, Cicero, Livy). Anyone know the purpose of these?

Those characters are actual retinue that can be acquired by your generals/governors in the game.

For instance, I know that one of the first retinue you get with a scriptorium is Archimedes. IIRC, +2 when assaulting walls, and +100 build points. "Considered the greatest mind alive."

I suspected that was what they were for... You can add them to your family members ancillaries when you start a game, but I didn't know if they appeared during a campaign!

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Originally Posted by timdickins

I suspected that was what they were for... You can add them to your family members ancillaries when you start a game, but I didn't know if they appeared during a campaign!

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They don't appear in person during a campaign. They're ancillaries that your family members and generals can aquire to boost command,influence,etc..

But since these historical characters appear only within their historical lifetimes, getting ancillaries like Cicero are pretty rare. I only ever got Archimedes once, for example, but I get Callimachus of Cyrene in almost every game I play with a faction that builds academies.

The really odd thing is even though you only gain them in the ancillaries life time, after getting the ancillary it will last until the rest of the game (if you keep giving it to other people of course)

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Originally Posted by TruePraetorian

The really odd thing is even though you only gain them in the ancillaries life time, after getting the ancillary it will last until the rest of the game (if you keep giving it to other people of course)

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Hes right there. I have passed Archimedes on untill 14 AD a couple of times.

Also, I have never gotten Callimachus, but I have never not gotten archimedes.

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Originally Posted by Motep

Hes right there. I have passed Archimedes on untill 14 AD a couple of times.

Also, I have never gotten Callimachus, but I have never not gotten archimedes.

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You just contradicted yourself in two sentences... :beam:

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Originally Posted by shlin28

You just contradicted yourself in two sentences... :beam:

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expain yourself. I thought I made it clear...ish.

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Originally Posted by Motep

expain yourself. I thought I made it clear...ish.

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"I have passed Archimedes on untill 14 AD a couple of times"

"but I have never not gotten archimedes."

:laugh4:

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Originally Posted by shlin28

"I have passed Archimedes on untill 14 AD a couple of times"

"but I have never not gotten archimedes."

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Double Negative

hence, I always get Archimedes

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Originally Posted by Motep

Double Negative

hence, I always get Archimedes

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:sweatdrop:

I hate American English...

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Originally Posted by shlin28

:sweatdrop:

I hate American English...

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:grin2:
I love it.

I dont speak English.

I SPEAK AMERICAN

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PS:

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Thanks for the language English :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by shlin28

:sweatdrop:

I hate American English...

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Thats nothing to do with American English.

It is plain English - double negatives always make a positive. MAde perfect sense to me and I am from England :beam:

Well double negatives can be used (but not most of the time), but that certainly was American English. For starters, "gotten" is American English. The correct English English would be: I have never failed to get archimedes.

This is totally off topic. Would you like me to split the thread timdickens?