Amazon Pack

Well here goes. My own attempt at making my own 'mod'. A while back I downloaded a few amazon skins and models. I was bored with RTW as it is and decided to have some fun with it. One of the things I downloaded was a reskin for the orginal amazon unit plus a model that came with a shield and could be used as a hoplite. Using these materials I did some reskinning myself and I created 5 amazon units in the colours of the Seleucids (I plan to do reskins for the other greek factions as well, including the Thracians) using two different skins and two models (and archer and hoplite). The units are working in battles at the moment. I did all the coding and created 5 workable units.

I want to continue on with this project but I pushed the limit of my skills. I have a list of things I want to do to finish them but I need help or advice.

-First off I have no unit cards. Does anyone know an easy way to make them or can perhaps help me with it?
-The shield on the .cas file for my hoplite model is too big. I armed the hoplites with a Sarissa and when they are in formation their pikes are sticking through their shields. I have no access to 3dsmax so I can't resize the shield.
-For the archer model I'd like to create a second version with a shield on the arms of their bowhands and add another quiver on their backs (they only have one on their hips). And I also want to make an archer model with just an extra quiver on their backs and no shield.
-I want to use female voices and sounds for them but the ones of the original RTW don't work. I therefore want to use the voices from the Sarmatian Virgins from RTW:BI but I have no clue where to find the soundfiles and I don't know whether the swap from BI is even possible. But maybe I missed something?
-Perhaps someone would like to test the units as they are now. I think they are balanced but I might have slightly overpowered them.

Here is a screenshot of the hoplites:

https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/...nie1iu5.th.jpg

Here is a screenshot of the archers:

https://img138.imageshack.us/img138/...nie2ew6.th.jpg

Here us a screenshot of the horse archers:

https://img138.imageshack.us/img138/...nie3of2.th.jpg

Chariots:

https://img138.imageshack.us/img138/...nie4au1.th.jpg

Heavy Cavalry:

https://img138.imageshack.us/img138/...nie5pc9.th.jpg

Those are fantastic skins. I like the armor design,too. Very cool.

Great work! :2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Spartan198

Those are fantastic skins. I like the armor design,too. Very cool.

Great work! :2thumbsup:

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Thanks.:) It is mostly cut and paste from various models I took apart to get what I want. I am still not happy with how the shields turned out. I am gonna try and redo them. They are a bit sloppy on the edges.

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Originally Posted by Aemilius Augustus

Thanks.:) It is mostly cut and paste from various models I took apart to get what I want. I am still not happy with how the shields turned out. I am gonna try and redo them. They are a bit sloppy on the edges.

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Looking forward to seeing the outcome.

If there was any way I could help with the trouble spots other than morale support, I would but unfortunately I'm just as lost as you. I imagine there will be somebody happen upon this thread that can help, though.

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Originally Posted by Spartan198

Looking forward to seeing the outcome.

If there was any way I could help with the trouble spots other than morale support, I would but unfortunately I'm just as lost as you. I imagine there will be somebody happen upon this thread that can help, though.

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Thanks. Well, I think I figured out the shield part. I made a skin that uses a bigger image that will give clearer details. Unfortunately it won't fit on the model properly so now that needs to be changed in 3dsmax as well.:(

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Originally Posted by Aemilius Augustus

Thanks. Well, I think I figured out the shield part. I made a skin that uses a bigger image that will give clearer details. Unfortunately it won't fit on the model properly so now that needs to be changed in 3dsmax as well.:(

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Here is the problem I mentioned:

https://img101.imageshack.us/img101/...blemiw1.th.jpg

Because I wanted to add in a higher resolution shield I had put in a skin for a shield that doesn't match and I had to move that stick like thingy further up to make room for the shield. Could the model be fixed that it would accept this modified skin?

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Originally Posted by Aemilius Augustus

Here is the problem I mentioned:

https://img101.imageshack.us/img101/...blemiw1.th.jpg

Because I wanted to add in a higher resolution shield I had put in a skin for a shield that doesn't match and I had to move that stick like thingy further up to make room for the shield. Could the model be fixed that it would accept this modified skin?

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I don't know much of anything about skinning, but perhaps you could try making the shield smaller, like a phalangite's rather than a hoplite's? The real problem with vanilla Rome is that it makes no real distinction between hellenic and classical phalanxes.

actually, if you want the skins to fit well, just do one of 2 things:

1-do change model
2-change the size of the skin section. yes that will affect the fitting a bit.
otherwise, it's good.

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-First off I have no unit cards. Does anyone know an easy way to make them or can perhaps help me with it?

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There are some good tutorials on this in the Mod Tutorials database and the Scriptorium

I tried option 2. But the shield ended up looking of much more poorer quality then the rest of the model. It simply didn't do it justice. And also with the new skin I made it will be very easy to reskin the models with the Macedon and Greek colors as well.

I'd like to go with option 1. Especially since I want to add the same shield to archer model to but I will need the help of an experienced modeller as such changes are beyond me as I lack the means (no 3dsmax) and skills.:( I don't know if making these changes is a lot of work but if someone could find the time to help me I'd be very gratefull. :) It is the only thing I really need help as I plan to figure all the other things out for myself. :)

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Originally Posted by Ibrahim

actually, if you want the skins to fit well, just do one of 2 things:

1-do change model
2-change the size of the skin section. yes that will affect the fitting a bit.
otherwise, it's good.

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@Myrddraal. Thanks for the tip I will have a look then. :) But I will wait with the unit cards till I got the shield thing for both models sorted out. :)

Edit 15/05: Update: I got all the stuff I need to make unit cards. I even found templates for the unit info picture, though only for infrantry. Does anyone know where I can get cavalry templates?

Here is an update on my Amazon project:

https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6331/tempvj9.th.jpg

I have made unit cards and unit info cards for the Archers, Horse Archers and Chariot Archers. They didn't turn out so well though because I had to make them out of screenshots. I have no rendering program. Does anyone know I can make easy renders without installing some big program like 3sd max?

I didn't make cards yet for the hoplites. I still need to get the shields sorted out. I still need a modeller to help me out with that like shield skin thing.

wow, thats really cool. Better them I could ever do. Even thow I don't do it at all. But could I make a suggestion? I've noticed they're pretty much all the same models but on horses and chariots etc., For the chariots you should make a differnt amazon drive it, like one without a helmet. Or two you could make the driver a silver-sheild hoplite. Just seggestion.
Keep it up, you're doing pretty awsome.

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Originally Posted by anelious phyros

wow, thats really cool. Better them I could ever do. Even thow I don't do it at all. But could I make a suggestion? I've noticed they're pretty much all the same models but on horses and chariots etc., For the chariots you should make a differnt amazon drive it, like one without a helmet. Or two you could make the driver a silver-sheild hoplite. Just seggestion.
Keep it up, you're doing pretty awsome.

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Thanks man. Yes, I like your idea of another headtype for the chariots. Indeed a helmetless head would be pretty cool. I have actually decided to try and get 3dsmax so I can get into modelling myself and make all these changes myself and also so I can render for better unit cards and unit info cards. :) I mean how hard can it be? :book:

I am not sure if the game will let me use another model for the driver but I will have a look around in the coding. It shouldn't be that hard to figure that one out. :)

Turns out this is going to be a much longer project then I first anticipated, haha. :laugh4:

Cool. Seems like you're pretty good and getting better.
You want to help out with Diadochi - Total War?, go to the link below.
Anyway it seems like it's turing out for you, good luck.

Diadochi - a mod for RTW focusing on the time after Alexander dies. It has a map expanded all the way to India and two Indian empires along with the generals of Alexander and the're part of the empire.

Actually, Spartan already enlisted me for Diadochi - Total War, so I am part of the team. :2thumbsup: I am using this pack as a pet project to hone my skills so I will be a better quality skinner and modeller for the real stuff for Diadochi. :)

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Originally Posted by anelious phyros

Cool. Seems like you're pretty good and getting better.
You want to help out with Diadochi - Total War?, go to the link below.
Anyway it seems like it's turing out for you, good luck.

Diadochi - a mod for RTW focusing on the time after Alexander dies. It has a map expanded all the way to India and two Indian empires along with the generals of Alexander and the're part of the empire.

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Originally Posted by Aemilius Augustus

Actually, Spartan already enlisted me for Diadochi - Total War, so I am part of the team. :2thumbsup: I am using this pack as a pet project to hone my skills so I will be a better quality skinner and modeller for the real stuff for Diadochi. :)

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Oh, welcome then!! I'm the kush histoiran/Meroe hisotorian and currently making Kushite units at https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=103569&page=6 Once agin welcome! You know the password for the Dev forum rights. :beam: :2thumbsup:

Hey, you're the darth sitius guy on the TWC forums aren't you!

Unit cards - I don't know how to make them but i can make a pretty good description for them when needed. That's one of my slightly growing jobs to help out Diadochi.

Glad you guys finally met! :yes: ~:cheers:

Hi Aemilius. It is nice to see I am not the only one with Amazons on their mind here.

If you would like, I can make unit cards for you. Just email me the models and skins, and tell me how to name them.

Hmm...seems Aemilius hasn't been active here since May of this year...:sweatdrop: